Comments on: Samba Team Denounces the Novell Deal http://techrights.org/2006/11/13/samba-team-denounces-the-novell-deal/ Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those threatened by software freedom Tue, 07 Feb 2012 14:00:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: darkstar http://techrights.org/2006/11/13/samba-team-denounces-the-novell-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-13 darkstar Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:38:57 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=4#comment-13 Way to go Samba team .. when will all the other projects speak out ?? These morons should pay for their actions. If M$ dosent nail the coffin the users should. Way to go Samba team .. when will all the other projects speak out ??
These morons should pay for their actions.
If M$ dosent nail the coffin the users should.

]]> By: IJ http://techrights.org/2006/11/13/samba-team-denounces-the-novell-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-7 IJ Wed, 15 Nov 2006 20:17:00 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=4#comment-7 It'd be nice to get that domain, but it's been squatted. As for computers bought with Windows on them and suggesting the shift to Linux, I'd suggest taking the computer to the retailer with receipt in hand, ready to demonstrate that you will not accept Microsoft's Windows tax, then seeing about getting a tax refund. If you can't get the refund on the OS, I'd suggest returning the computer in its entirety, or exchanging it for parts to build a computer, but making sure you don't get Windows. Harder to do with a laptop, though, I suspect. It’d be nice to get that domain, but it’s been squatted.

As for computers bought with Windows on them and suggesting the shift to Linux, I’d suggest taking the computer to the retailer with receipt in hand, ready to demonstrate that you will not accept Microsoft’s Windows tax, then seeing about getting a tax refund. If you can’t get the refund on the OS, I’d suggest returning the computer in its entirety, or exchanging it for parts to build a computer, but making sure you don’t get Windows. Harder to do with a laptop, though, I suspect.

]]> By: symbolic-meditation http://techrights.org/2006/11/13/samba-team-denounces-the-novell-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-5 symbolic-meditation Wed, 15 Nov 2006 01:09:07 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=4#comment-5 Why not www.boycottmicrosoft.com in the first place? I agree with the Samba team, and this move seems to me a trap for the whole F/OSS community. But let also do some more constructive initiatives: Lets begin some consumer guerrilla warfare by helping and educating our neighbours and relatives: Speak with any one you appreciate who uses a computer about M$, their abusive business practices and the inferior quality of their products. Teach them about the freedoms the GPL provides to the users and how some tech corporations, leaded by Microsoft are trying to deprive users from them. Make sure they dont buy a new PC with Vista intalled for Christmas or afterwards, you can propose the shift to Linux as a cheaper way to renew their computer, educate them about forced obsoleteness and how Vista will consume more and more resources from their PC unnecesarily. Finally offer help to them at removing the Windos virus from their computers and install and teach them how to use a flavor of linux you like: Ubuntu,Debian,Fedora,MEPIS... Moreover teach them to do the same on their neighbours. Start a chain reaction. Further the effects of your actions by joining or creating a local LUG, and doing regular install parties: Proposed motto: "Fix your PC for free and get rid of viruses, trojans, spyware: Bring your computer and get Linux installed: For free!!!...etc more constructive ideas? Best regards Why not
http://www.boycottmicrosoft.com
in the first place?

I agree with the Samba team, and this move seems to me a trap for the whole F/OSS community.

But let also do some more constructive initiatives:

Lets begin some consumer guerrilla warfare by helping and educating our neighbours and relatives:
Speak with any one you appreciate who uses a computer about M$, their abusive business practices and the inferior quality of their products.
Teach them about the freedoms the GPL provides to the users and how some tech corporations, leaded by Microsoft are trying to deprive users from them.
Make sure they dont buy a new PC with Vista intalled for Christmas or afterwards, you can propose the shift to Linux as a cheaper way to renew their computer, educate them about forced obsoleteness and how Vista will consume more and more resources from their PC unnecesarily.
Finally offer help to them at removing the Windos virus from their computers and install and teach them how to use a flavor of linux you like: Ubuntu,Debian,Fedora,MEPIS…
Moreover teach them to do the same on their neighbours. Start a chain reaction.
Further the effects of your actions by joining or creating a local LUG, and doing regular install parties: Proposed motto: “Fix your PC for free and get rid of viruses, trojans, spyware: Bring your computer and get Linux installed: For free!!!…etc
more constructive ideas?
Best regards

]]> By: hi there http://techrights.org/2006/11/13/samba-team-denounces-the-novell-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-2 hi there Mon, 13 Nov 2006 23:29:23 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=4#comment-2 Really, as I see it Microsoft and whoever else is in on this has a problem. That problem is obvious. The system of fixing a price for something and then expecting you to comply is coming to an end for them and they now have to get serious about doing something about it. They sent their lackey sco into it and they didn't do too well. So now here we are. Their task, albeit ridiculous is to convince everyone else that they will crush them if they don't accept their solution. Their solution is to take to their chosen 'linux,' suse. In this way, whatever secret agreements have been made are irrelevant but for one detail, the 'rights' that you now enjoy become sniveling 'priveledges' that you accept for doing business with Novell/Suse/Microsoft. In this way, linux can be reconceptualized as something they understand how to control, build-up, and eventually kill. Linux as it is is not in that state currently and this makes it uncontrollable. Novell is just being what they would eventually have become anyway. They were a proprietary software company to begin with and they have much more invested in non-free software than they do free, hence their true methods and motives must sooner or later come to light. Microsoft keeps their one monopoly, the desktop, for a while longer through FUD again, first through SCO, and now through Novell, lets see what/who happens in another 2-3 years. Really, as I see it Microsoft and whoever else is in on this has a problem. That problem is obvious. The system of fixing a price for something and then expecting you to comply is coming to an end for them and they now have to get serious about doing something about it. They sent their lackey sco into it and they didn’t do too well. So now here we are. Their task, albeit ridiculous is to convince everyone else that they will crush them if they don’t accept their solution. Their solution is to take to their chosen ‘linux,’ suse. In this way, whatever secret agreements have been made are irrelevant but for one detail, the ‘rights’ that you now enjoy become sniveling ‘priveledges’ that you accept for doing business with Novell/Suse/Microsoft.
In this way, linux can be reconceptualized as something they understand how to control, build-up, and eventually kill. Linux as it is is not in that state currently and this makes it uncontrollable. Novell is just being what they would eventually have become anyway. They were a proprietary software company to begin with and they have much more invested in non-free software than they do free, hence their true methods and motives must sooner or later come to light.
Microsoft keeps their one monopoly, the desktop, for a while longer through FUD again, first through SCO, and now through Novell, lets see what/who happens in another 2-3 years.

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