Comments on: Samba Team Walked Out on Novell? (Corrected) http://techrights.org/2007/02/06/samba-team-walked-out-on-novell/ Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those threatened by software freedom Tue, 07 Feb 2012 14:00:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Draconishinobi http://techrights.org/2007/02/06/samba-team-walked-out-on-novell/comment-page-1/#comment-330 Draconishinobi Wed, 07 Feb 2007 00:07:03 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/02/06/samba-team-walked-out-on-novell/#comment-330 "Vista is to ship with a new version of SMB, called SMB2. At minute 40 in this FLOSS Weekly podcast, Jeremy Allison of Samba talks of behavior that will flood the network with 1500 packets just to do a network file delete. This will turn Vista computers into a DOS (Denial of Service) attack upon Samba based computers on the network." AWESOME !!! I wanna see that ! :D “Vista is to ship with a new version of SMB, called SMB2. At minute 40 in this FLOSS Weekly podcast, Jeremy Allison of Samba talks of behavior that will flood the network with 1500 packets just to do a network file delete. This will turn Vista computers into a DOS (Denial of Service) attack upon Samba based computers on the network.”

AWESOME !!! I wanna see that ! :D

]]> By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2007/02/06/samba-team-walked-out-on-novell/comment-page-1/#comment-329 Roy Schestowitz Tue, 06 Feb 2007 14:51:32 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/02/06/samba-team-walked-out-on-novell/#comment-329 @Ian: <blockquote> If Longhorn server breaks compatibility, Samba will react to support those changes. </blockquote> Have a look at (listen to rather) this interview: <a href="http://www.twit.tv/floww14" title="The Microsoft Zombie Army will force Samba out of the Enterprise" rel="nofollow">The Microsoft Zombie Army will force Samba out of the Enterprise</a> <blockquote> Vista is to ship with a new version of SMB, called SMB2. At minute 40 in this FLOSS Weekly podcast, Jeremy Allison of Samba talks of behavior that will flood the network with 1500 packets just to do a network file delete. This will turn Vista computers into a DOS (Denial of Service) attack upon Samba based computers on the network. </blockquote> @Ian:

If Longhorn server breaks compatibility, Samba will react to support those changes.

Have a look at (listen to rather) this interview:

The Microsoft Zombie Army will force Samba out of the Enterprise

Vista is to ship with a new version of SMB, called SMB2. At minute 40 in this FLOSS Weekly podcast, Jeremy Allison of Samba talks of behavior that will flood the network with 1500 packets just to do a network file delete. This will turn Vista computers into a DOS (Denial of Service) attack upon Samba based computers on the network.

]]> By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2007/02/06/samba-team-walked-out-on-novell/comment-page-1/#comment-328 Roy Schestowitz Tue, 06 Feb 2007 14:49:05 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/02/06/samba-team-walked-out-on-novell/#comment-328 FWIW, the following story was published not so long ago: <a href="http://www.itjungle.com/tlb/tlb012307-story05.html" title="Red Hat Hires Ex-SUSE Sales Exec to Run EMEA Channels" rel="nofollow">Red Hat Hires Ex-SUSE Sales Exec to Run EMEA Channels</a> FWIW, the following story was published not so long ago:

Red Hat Hires Ex-SUSE Sales Exec to Run EMEA Channels

]]> By: Ian http://techrights.org/2007/02/06/samba-team-walked-out-on-novell/comment-page-1/#comment-327 Ian Tue, 06 Feb 2007 14:25:55 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/02/06/samba-team-walked-out-on-novell/#comment-327 Losing developer talent is never good, but I'll bet the Samba protocol is a drop in the bucket compared to NCP usage with Novell customers. Beyond that, I'm not sure how one can support the moral objections of the Samba team towards Novell on the basis of this deal. I vaguely understand the concerns about the patents within the scope of patents being bad. Deeper in, it doesn't seem like the patents part of the deal is anything more than verbiage. Maybe it was a play against Red Hat, I don't know. Maybe some Novell customers or potential customers had those IP worries. Again, I don't know. But I do know that Samba proliferates SMB/CIFS. While Microsoft didn't invent SMB, it's now firmly their game. They set the rules. If Longhorn server breaks compatibility, Samba will react to support those changes. I have difficulty supporting the moral objections against Microsoft by a group whose core competency is tied directly to Microsoft. There's nothing wrong with that because people need that functionality. However, I do think it should limit the "holier than thou" attitude. Losing developer talent is never good, but I’ll bet the Samba protocol is a drop in the bucket compared to NCP usage with Novell customers.

Beyond that, I’m not sure how one can support the moral objections of the Samba team towards Novell on the basis of this deal. I vaguely understand the concerns about the patents within the scope of patents being bad. Deeper in, it doesn’t seem like the patents part of the deal is anything more than verbiage. Maybe it was a play against Red Hat, I don’t know. Maybe some Novell customers or potential customers had those IP worries. Again, I don’t know.

But I do know that Samba proliferates SMB/CIFS. While Microsoft didn’t invent SMB, it’s now firmly their game. They set the rules. If Longhorn server breaks compatibility, Samba will react to support those changes. I have difficulty supporting the moral objections against Microsoft by a group whose core competency is tied directly to Microsoft. There’s nothing wrong with that because people need that functionality. However, I do think it should limit the “holier than thou” attitude.

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