Comments on: Moving from [Ku|U]buntu to Opensuse — Going in Reverse? http://techrights.org/2007/03/09/opensuse-kubuntu/ Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those threatened by software freedom Tue, 07 Feb 2012 14:00:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Chris http://techrights.org/2007/03/09/opensuse-kubuntu/comment-page-1/#comment-472 Chris Sun, 25 Mar 2007 15:14:24 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/03/09/opensuse-kubuntu/#comment-472 "Debian testing and sid aren’t good Linux desktops." Ehh, I beg to differ. Testing in Debian is actually pretty stable & don't forget, Ubuntu is based directly off of Sid. They take a snapshot & modify it to their needs, then they add some tools to help the new user out. When a package goes into testing, it must survive for 2 weeks without any major breakage. Usually after 2 weeks the package has been examined throughly. Even in Sid, if something breaks, it's usually fixed by the next day. Either way, any Debian or Debian-based distro is excellent. “Debian testing and sid aren’t good Linux desktops.”

Ehh, I beg to differ. Testing in Debian is actually pretty stable & don’t forget, Ubuntu is based directly off of Sid. They take a snapshot & modify it to their needs, then they add some tools to help the new user out.

When a package goes into testing, it must survive for 2 weeks without any major breakage. Usually after 2 weeks the package has been examined throughly. Even in Sid, if something breaks, it’s usually fixed by the next day.

Either way, any Debian or Debian-based distro is excellent.

]]> By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2007/03/09/opensuse-kubuntu/comment-page-1/#comment-457 Roy Schestowitz Fri, 23 Mar 2007 06:56:02 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/03/09/opensuse-kubuntu/#comment-457 Yes, I wholeheartedy agree. Technical contributions aside, Canonical brought Linux to audiences that Novell could barely ever reach because it projects a level of vanity, being a large company with roots in [highly|over]-priced proprietary software. The philosophy of Ubuntu helps demonstrate that digital freedom is for everyone and that not only geeks can handle Linux. It's a gross generalisation, I know. Yes, I wholeheartedy agree. Technical contributions aside, Canonical brought Linux to audiences that Novell could barely ever reach because it projects a level of vanity, being a large company with roots in [highly|over]-priced proprietary software. The philosophy of Ubuntu helps demonstrate that digital freedom is for everyone and that not only geeks can handle Linux. It’s a gross generalisation, I know.

]]> By: gpl1 http://techrights.org/2007/03/09/opensuse-kubuntu/comment-page-1/#comment-456 gpl1 Fri, 23 Mar 2007 03:45:27 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/03/09/opensuse-kubuntu/#comment-456 " Not to be nit picker, but Ubuntu doesn’t even have its “own codebase” to speak of. It’s Debian. " That's not fair. Canonical employs ~20 extremely active Debian developers, and Mark Shuttleworth himself is a former DD for apache. They've contributed the init replacement upstart as well as packaging Debian for the masses every six months, which if the adoption of Ubuntu says anything, is a huge thing itself--that's the key thing with Ubuntu--, because let's face it, Debian testing and sid aren't good Linux desktops. Ubuntu contributes patches back to Debian everyday because they have to resync every six months. Nevermind systems like Launchpad, the easy translater "Rosetta", etc... However in the end I'm sure Mark Shuttleworth would love ubuntu being called "just another debian distro" since what's good for Ubuntu is good for Debian, and vice versa. ”

Not to be nit picker, but Ubuntu doesn’t even have its “own codebase” to speak of. It’s Debian.
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That’s not fair. Canonical employs ~20 extremely active Debian developers, and Mark Shuttleworth himself is a former DD for apache. They’ve contributed the init replacement upstart as well as packaging Debian for the masses every six months, which if the adoption of Ubuntu says anything, is a huge thing itself–that’s the key thing with Ubuntu–, because let’s face it, Debian testing and sid aren’t good Linux desktops. Ubuntu contributes patches back to Debian everyday because they have to resync every six months.

Nevermind systems like Launchpad, the easy translater “Rosetta”, etc…

However in the end I’m sure Mark Shuttleworth would love ubuntu being called “just another debian distro” since what’s good for Ubuntu is good for Debian, and vice versa.

]]> By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2007/03/09/opensuse-kubuntu/comment-page-1/#comment-405 Roy Schestowitz Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:10:32 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/03/09/opensuse-kubuntu/#comment-405 Yes, I had this in mind when I wrote "They thrive in a more positive and friendly image, regardless of how much they actually contribute to the Linux mainline (new or existing packages)." Actually, Novell has contributed a lot to Linux. It is truly a shame that they sold out the way they did. Yes, I had this in mind when I wrote “They thrive in a more positive and friendly image, regardless of how much they actually contribute to the Linux mainline (new or existing packages).”

Actually, Novell has contributed a lot to Linux. It is truly a shame that they sold out the way they did.

]]> By: Ian http://techrights.org/2007/03/09/opensuse-kubuntu/comment-page-1/#comment-404 Ian Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:49:25 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2007/03/09/opensuse-kubuntu/#comment-404 Not to be nit picker, but Ubuntu doesn't even have its "own codebase" to speak of. It's Debian. Not to be nit picker, but Ubuntu doesn’t even have its “own codebase” to speak of. It’s Debian.

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