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	<title>Comments on: OOXML: Five Month ISO Ballot Process Begins</title>
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		<title>By: shane</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2007/04/06/ooxml-five-month-iso-ballot-process-begins/comment-page-1/#comment-514</link>
		<dc:creator>shane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2007 16:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Deja Vu all over again?&lt;/strong&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.robweir.com/blog/2007/03/fast-track-wrong-direction.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Microsoft&#039;s Fast Track debacle with C++/CLI&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Deja Vu all over again?</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://www.robweir.com/blog/2007/03/fast-track-wrong-direction.html" rel="nofollow">Microsoft&#8217;s Fast Track debacle with C++/CLI</a></p>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2007/04/06/ooxml-five-month-iso-ballot-process-begins/comment-page-1/#comment-512</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2007 21:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the face of it, Microsoft has found a loophole. It votes for itself in the ISO and Novell just seems to follow Microsoft&#039;s lead. I have collected a bunch of references (with fragments) which I think would complement this post and shed some light on the level of political manipulation.

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Microsoft calls on UK public to raise the Office standard

,----[ Quote ]
&#124; Microsoft is calling on the Great British public to join its campaign
&#124; to get the XML Office format adopted as an international standard.
&#124; 
&#124; [...]
&#124; 
&#124; It is not clear if the UK is an opponent. However, a representative
&#124; of fellow member the Bureau of Indian Standards recently reportedly
&#124; complained to the IndiaTime.com over Microsoft&#039;s decision to dump
&#124; 6,000 pages of documentation on them.
`----

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/04/04/microsoft_office_standards_petition/


Microsoft&#039;s Open XML Format Advances in ISO

,----[ Quote ]
&#124; Andy Updegrove, a partner with Boston law firm Gesmer Updegrove and
&#124; editor of the ConsortiumInfo.org standards blog, said that 14 of 20
&#124; responses were clearly negative, two indicated divisions of opinion,
&#124; three were inconclusive or neutral, and one offered no objections.
`----

http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2110684,00.asp


Microsoft Fights for OpenOffice XML Standard Approval

,----[ Quote ]
&#124; To win approval, Microsoft must obtain 75 percent of all
&#124; votes cast.
&#124; 
&#124; Organizers have said they expect representatives from about
&#124; 100 countries, including the United States, Canada and most
&#124; large European and Asian nations, to ultimately cast ballots
&#124; on the issue. 
`----

http://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/56642.html


Packing The Court At The ISO?

,----[ Quote ]
&#124;      ...P member countries (&#039;participating member&#039; countries) sending 
&#124;     representatives, and I am interested to note the majority of
&#124;     their representatives are, as individuals, also Microsoft employees.
&#124; 
&#124; [...]
&#124; 
&#124; How can they not see that OOXML (ECMA 376) is unwanted by anyone outside of 
&#124; Microsoft? How about it Brian Jones? Are you really so desperate that you
&#124; have to resort to that?
`----

http://lnxwalt.wordpress.com/2007/03/23/packing-the-court-at-the-iso/


Q&amp;A: Former Mass. CIO feels &#039;bittersweet pride&#039; after battles with Microsoft, legislature

,----[ Quote ]
&#124; As CIO of Massachusetts from February to November last year, Louis 
&#124; Gutierrez had to endure most of the brunt of Microsoft Corp.&#039;s political 
&#124; wrath over a state policy calling for the adoption of the Open Document 
&#124; Format for Office Applications, or ODF -- a rival to the software vendor&#039;s 
&#124; Office Open XML file format.
&#124; 
&#124; [...]
&#124; 
&#124; Do you see any reason for there to be two standards? If you were
&#124; starting blank-slate, there certainly would not be value to creating
&#124; two separate standards. Over time, it has sometimes been useful to
&#124; have the competition of two standards to keep both sides honest.
&#124; But I don&#039;t see particular value in the long-term co-existence of
&#124; two separate standards.
`----

http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&amp;articleId=9012760&amp;source=rss_news50


,----[ Quote ]
&#124;    Quinn:  Almost to a person, to anybody involved or who knows about
&#124;    the ODF issue, they attributed the story to Microsoft, right, wrong
&#124;    or otherwise. Senator Pacheco may be a bully but I do not believe he
&#124;    is disingenious and would stoop to such a tactic. Senator Pacheco and
&#124;    Secretary Galvin&#039;s office remain very heavily influenced by the
&#124;    Microsoft money and its lobbyist machine, as witnessed by their
&#124;    playbook and words, in my opinion.
&#124; 
&#124;    Quinn:  I believe that the ODF decision will stand. I believe MS
&#124;    will continue to do anything and everything it can to stop it. And I
&#124;    know my seat wasn&#039;t even empty and they (MS) took another shot at
&#124;    the title, to no avail. This horse is out of the barn and I see no
&#124;    way for it to go back in. Remember, all we are asking for was and is
&#124;    for Microsoft to commit to open and the standards process; so
&#124;    everyone looks really bad if the plug gets pulled at this juncture. 
`----

http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20060119232859729


MA Governor-Elect Names MS Anti-ODF Lobbyist to Technology Advisory Group

http://www.consortiuminfo.org/standardsblog/article.php?story=20061128161343183


The Sorry State of Massachusetts

http://www.consortiuminfo.org/standardsblog/article.php?story=2006111603531029


Microsoft offers schools in Mass. free software [to stop ODF adoption]

http://news.com.com/2100-7344_3-6090196.html?part=rss&amp;tag=6090196&amp;subj=news


Microsoft plays Massachusetts Senate card

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=32515


Microsoft playing three card monte with XML conversion

,----[ Quote ]
&#124; Gary Edwards of the Open Document Foundation, a leading member
&#124; of its technical committee, says Microsoft is playing proprietary
&#124; games aimed at controlling XML file formats and preventing the
&#124; Open Document Format from gaining a foothold.
`----

http://blogs.zdnet.com/open-source/?p=959

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&lt;B&gt;Some internal links:&lt;/b&gt;

Promoting a Competitor to Openness, on Behalf of Your New Partner

http://boycottnovell.com/2007/03/06/novell-helps-ooxml/


OpenOffice Novell Edition… for… Windows?!?!

http://boycottnovell.com/2007/03/14/novell-openoffice/


Has Novell Made OpenOffice Incompatible with Itself?

http://boycottnovell.com/2007/03/24/openoffice-compatibility/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the face of it, Microsoft has found a loophole. It votes for itself in the ISO and Novell just seems to follow Microsoft&#8217;s lead. I have collected a bunch of references (with fragments) which I think would complement this post and shed some light on the level of political manipulation.</p>
<p><font size="1"><br />
Microsoft calls on UK public to raise the Office standard</p>
<p>,&#8212;-[ Quote ]<br />
| Microsoft is calling on the Great British public to join its campaign<br />
| to get the XML Office format adopted as an international standard.<br />
|<br />
| [...]<br />
|<br />
| It is not clear if the UK is an opponent. However, a representative<br />
| of fellow member the Bureau of Indian Standards recently reportedly<br />
| complained to the IndiaTime.com over Microsoft&#8217;s decision to dump<br />
| 6,000 pages of documentation on them.<br />
`&#8212;-</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/04/04/microsoft_office_standards_petition/" rel="nofollow">http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/04/04/microsoft_office_standards_petition/</a></p>
<p>Microsoft&#8217;s Open XML Format Advances in ISO</p>
<p>,&#8212;-[ Quote ]<br />
| Andy Updegrove, a partner with Boston law firm Gesmer Updegrove and<br />
| editor of the ConsortiumInfo.org standards blog, said that 14 of 20<br />
| responses were clearly negative, two indicated divisions of opinion,<br />
| three were inconclusive or neutral, and one offered no objections.<br />
`&#8212;-</p>
<p><a href="http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2110684,00.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2110684,00.asp</a></p>
<p>Microsoft Fights for OpenOffice XML Standard Approval</p>
<p>,&#8212;-[ Quote ]<br />
| To win approval, Microsoft must obtain 75 percent of all<br />
| votes cast.<br />
|<br />
| Organizers have said they expect representatives from about<br />
| 100 countries, including the United States, Canada and most<br />
| large European and Asian nations, to ultimately cast ballots<br />
| on the issue.<br />
`&#8212;-</p>
<p><a href="http://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/56642.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/56642.html</a></p>
<p>Packing The Court At The ISO?</p>
<p>,&#8212;-[ Quote ]<br />
|      &#8230;P member countries (&#8216;participating member&#8217; countries) sending<br />
|     representatives, and I am interested to note the majority of<br />
|     their representatives are, as individuals, also Microsoft employees.<br />
|<br />
| [...]<br />
|<br />
| How can they not see that OOXML (ECMA 376) is unwanted by anyone outside of<br />
| Microsoft? How about it Brian Jones? Are you really so desperate that you<br />
| have to resort to that?<br />
`&#8212;-</p>
<p><a href="http://lnxwalt.wordpress.com/2007/03/23/packing-the-court-at-the-iso/" rel="nofollow">http://lnxwalt.wordpress.com/2007/03/23/packing-the-court-at-the-iso/</a></p>
<p>Q&#038;A: Former Mass. CIO feels &#8216;bittersweet pride&#8217; after battles with Microsoft, legislature</p>
<p>,&#8212;-[ Quote ]<br />
| As CIO of Massachusetts from February to November last year, Louis<br />
| Gutierrez had to endure most of the brunt of Microsoft Corp.&#8217;s political<br />
| wrath over a state policy calling for the adoption of the Open Document<br />
| Format for Office Applications, or ODF &#8212; a rival to the software vendor&#8217;s<br />
| Office Open XML file format.<br />
|<br />
| [...]<br />
|<br />
| Do you see any reason for there to be two standards? If you were<br />
| starting blank-slate, there certainly would not be value to creating<br />
| two separate standards. Over time, it has sometimes been useful to<br />
| have the competition of two standards to keep both sides honest.<br />
| But I don&#8217;t see particular value in the long-term co-existence of<br />
| two separate standards.<br />
`&#8212;-</p>
<p><a href="http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&#038;articleId=9012760&#038;source=rss_news50" rel="nofollow">http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&#038;articleId=9012760&#038;source=rss_news50</a></p>
<p>,&#8212;-[ Quote ]<br />
|    Quinn:  Almost to a person, to anybody involved or who knows about<br />
|    the ODF issue, they attributed the story to Microsoft, right, wrong<br />
|    or otherwise. Senator Pacheco may be a bully but I do not believe he<br />
|    is disingenious and would stoop to such a tactic. Senator Pacheco and<br />
|    Secretary Galvin&#8217;s office remain very heavily influenced by the<br />
|    Microsoft money and its lobbyist machine, as witnessed by their<br />
|    playbook and words, in my opinion.<br />
|<br />
|    Quinn:  I believe that the ODF decision will stand. I believe MS<br />
|    will continue to do anything and everything it can to stop it. And I<br />
|    know my seat wasn&#8217;t even empty and they (MS) took another shot at<br />
|    the title, to no avail. This horse is out of the barn and I see no<br />
|    way for it to go back in. Remember, all we are asking for was and is<br />
|    for Microsoft to commit to open and the standards process; so<br />
|    everyone looks really bad if the plug gets pulled at this juncture.<br />
`&#8212;-</p>
<p><a href="http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20060119232859729" rel="nofollow">http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20060119232859729</a></p>
<p>MA Governor-Elect Names MS Anti-ODF Lobbyist to Technology Advisory Group</p>
<p><a href="http://www.consortiuminfo.org/standardsblog/article.php?story=20061128161343183" rel="nofollow">http://www.consortiuminfo.org/standardsblog/article.php?story=20061128161343183</a></p>
<p>The Sorry State of Massachusetts</p>
<p><a href="http://www.consortiuminfo.org/standardsblog/article.php?story=2006111603531029" rel="nofollow">http://www.consortiuminfo.org/standardsblog/article.php?story=2006111603531029</a></p>
<p>Microsoft offers schools in Mass. free software [to stop ODF adoption]</p>
<p><a href="http://news.com.com/2100-7344_3-6090196.html?part=rss&#038;tag=6090196&#038;subj=news" rel="nofollow">http://news.com.com/2100-7344_3-6090196.html?part=rss&#038;tag=6090196&#038;subj=news</a></p>
<p>Microsoft plays Massachusetts Senate card</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=32515" rel="nofollow">http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=32515</a></p>
<p>Microsoft playing three card monte with XML conversion</p>
<p>,&#8212;-[ Quote ]<br />
| Gary Edwards of the Open Document Foundation, a leading member<br />
| of its technical committee, says Microsoft is playing proprietary<br />
| games aimed at controlling XML file formats and preventing the<br />
| Open Document Format from gaining a foothold.<br />
`&#8212;-</p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/open-source/?p=959" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.zdnet.com/open-source/?p=959</a></p>
<p></font></p>
<p><b>Some internal links:</b></p>
<p>Promoting a Competitor to Openness, on Behalf of Your New Partner</p>
<p><a href="http://boycottnovell.com/2007/03/06/novell-helps-ooxml/" rel="nofollow">http://boycottnovell.com/2007/03/06/novell-helps-ooxml/</a></p>
<p>OpenOffice Novell Edition… for… Windows?!?!</p>
<p><a href="http://boycottnovell.com/2007/03/14/novell-openoffice/" rel="nofollow">http://boycottnovell.com/2007/03/14/novell-openoffice/</a></p>
<p>Has Novell Made OpenOffice Incompatible with Itself?</p>
<p><a href="http://boycottnovell.com/2007/03/24/openoffice-compatibility/" rel="nofollow">http://boycottnovell.com/2007/03/24/openoffice-compatibility/</a></p>
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