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		<title>By: eet</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2007/11/18/fud-marketing-linux/comment-page-7/#comment-3383</link>
		<dc:creator>eet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 10:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, you censoring out critical comments leads to an interesting situation: I can still talk to you but you cannot talk back at me. :)

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, you censoring out critical comments leads to an interesting situation: I can still talk to you but you cannot talk back at me. <img src='http://techrights.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: eet</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2007/11/18/fud-marketing-linux/comment-page-7/#comment-3376</link>
		<dc:creator>eet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 08:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thus far the answers I got fulfilled my expectations. As with any trolls, the &#039;Boycott Novell&#039;-crowd were not able to defend their point of view and reacted with outrage to their theory being questioned at all.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thus far the answers I got fulfilled my expectations. As with any trolls, the &#8216;Boycott Novell&#8217;-crowd were not able to defend their point of view and reacted with outrage to their theory being questioned at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2007/11/18/fud-marketing-linux/comment-page-6/#comment-3370</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 06:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>eet&#039;s attacks on readers have led to a &lt;a href=&quot;http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/21/new-moderation-policy/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;new policy&lt;/a&gt;. Your comment only entered moderation because it contained the (sub)string &#039;eet&#039; in the body.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eet&#8217;s attacks on readers have led to a <a href="http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/21/new-moderation-policy/" rel="nofollow">new policy</a>. Your comment only entered moderation because it contained the (sub)string &#8216;eet&#8217; in the body.</p>
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		<title>By: SundayRefugee</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2007/11/18/fud-marketing-linux/comment-page-6/#comment-3368</link>
		<dc:creator>SundayRefugee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 05:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>eet, I have extensive training and experience in that area. I see by the tone of your post that you&#039;re still falling into the same trap of trying to bait me with your posts, ignoring points brought to you, and condescending. Oh, and trying to use the Flying Spaghetti Monster out of context. 

When you can hold a civil, two-way, responsive discussion, I have absolutely no problem doing a back and forth. Until that time, however, I have almost nothing that resembles free-time, and what little I DO have I&#039;m not spending with a troll with his hands over his ears, whose only intent is to pust buttons and upset interested readers. However, holding grudges is not my style, and I&#039;d be more than happy to interact with you should you be able to reasonably post ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eet, I have extensive training and experience in that area. I see by the tone of your post that you&#8217;re still falling into the same trap of trying to bait me with your posts, ignoring points brought to you, and condescending. Oh, and trying to use the Flying Spaghetti Monster out of context. </p>
<p>When you can hold a civil, two-way, responsive discussion, I have absolutely no problem doing a back and forth. Until that time, however, I have almost nothing that resembles free-time, and what little I DO have I&#8217;m not spending with a troll with his hands over his ears, whose only intent is to pust buttons and upset interested readers. However, holding grudges is not my style, and I&#8217;d be more than happy to interact with you should you be able to reasonably post <img src='http://techrights.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: eet</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2007/11/18/fud-marketing-linux/comment-page-6/#comment-3346</link>
		<dc:creator>eet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 20:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t worry, I don&#039;t expect detailed answers from you because I know you&#039;re not able to give them. I guess everyone has realized that by now.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t worry, I don&#8217;t expect detailed answers from you because I know you&#8217;re not able to give them. I guess everyone has realized that by now.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2007/11/18/fud-marketing-linux/comment-page-6/#comment-3344</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 20:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re still trying to provoke with personal insults. Work on your communication skills if you want detailed answers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re still trying to provoke with personal insults. Work on your communication skills if you want detailed answers.</p>
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		<title>By: eet</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2007/11/18/fud-marketing-linux/comment-page-6/#comment-3325</link>
		<dc:creator>eet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;get over&#039;, I meant

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;get over&#8217;, I meant</p>
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		<title>By: eet</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2007/11/18/fud-marketing-linux/comment-page-5/#comment-3324</link>
		<dc:creator>eet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, the quote that (in full, non-intentionally crippled) citation reads that the users of other Linux distributions than openSUSE will have to _download_ Moonlight _themselves_ instead of having it bundled with their distro relates to openSUSE&#039;s moonlight version prospectively coming with legit Windows-Media-support. You can of course compile Moonlight with (illegit) WMV-support via Xine or other legit WMV-support via Fluendo&#039;s plugin and still bundle it with any distribution.

I just can&#039;t get of this &#039;putting 2 and 2 together&#039; way of pseudo-reasoning. Heck, that way you can fill up any logical holes or non-existing causalities by power of sheer imagination! What have you studied for! Man, you even graduate! Raise your standards.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, the quote that (in full, non-intentionally crippled) citation reads that the users of other Linux distributions than openSUSE will have to _download_ Moonlight _themselves_ instead of having it bundled with their distro relates to openSUSE&#8217;s moonlight version prospectively coming with legit Windows-Media-support. You can of course compile Moonlight with (illegit) WMV-support via Xine or other legit WMV-support via Fluendo&#8217;s plugin and still bundle it with any distribution.</p>
<p>I just can&#8217;t get of this &#8216;putting 2 and 2 together&#8217; way of pseudo-reasoning. Heck, that way you can fill up any logical holes or non-existing causalities by power of sheer imagination! What have you studied for! Man, you even graduate! Raise your standards.</p>
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		<title>By: eet</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2007/11/18/fud-marketing-linux/comment-page-5/#comment-3323</link>
		<dc:creator>eet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roy, as you might remember from your thesis, when you are required to quote an authority it is not sufficient to quote oneself...

But I&#039;ll do you the favor.

Link 1 is summs up as, quote, &quot;where did Microsoft’s OpenOffice.org, Email, GUI, and other patent statistics come from?&quot;
This isn&#039;t an argument, let alone proof anything. And certainly it doesn&#039;t prove anywhere that Novell admitted Linux infringing on anything; quite on the contrary they protested and insisted Linux doesn&#039;t infringe on any patents.

Link 2 summs up to the Ballmer quote: &quot;People that use Red Hat, at least with respect to our intellectual property, in a sense have an obligation to compensate us.&quot;
Ballmer going around threatening people as a way of marketing Windows is nothing new and not proof of a conspiracy, either

Link 3 summs up as only vendors that have an agreement with M$ being able to legitimately bundle Moonlight with their distributions. Well, the same goes for Macromedia and Flash; nothing new.
No sign of any conspiracy here, either. Indeed the article itself had a highly defensive undertone.

Roy, why are you constantly linking stuff that doesn&#039;t support your point of view at all? Do you hope that readers would be too lazy to actually read the stuff you are linking to?



Also &#039;put 2 and 2 together&#039; does not count as any kind of reasoning.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roy, as you might remember from your thesis, when you are required to quote an authority it is not sufficient to quote oneself&#8230;</p>
<p>But I&#8217;ll do you the favor.</p>
<p>Link 1 is summs up as, quote, &#8220;where did Microsoft’s OpenOffice.org, Email, GUI, and other patent statistics come from?&#8221;<br />
This isn&#8217;t an argument, let alone proof anything. And certainly it doesn&#8217;t prove anywhere that Novell admitted Linux infringing on anything; quite on the contrary they protested and insisted Linux doesn&#8217;t infringe on any patents.</p>
<p>Link 2 summs up to the Ballmer quote: &#8220;People that use Red Hat, at least with respect to our intellectual property, in a sense have an obligation to compensate us.&#8221;<br />
Ballmer going around threatening people as a way of marketing Windows is nothing new and not proof of a conspiracy, either</p>
<p>Link 3 summs up as only vendors that have an agreement with M$ being able to legitimately bundle Moonlight with their distributions. Well, the same goes for Macromedia and Flash; nothing new.<br />
No sign of any conspiracy here, either. Indeed the article itself had a highly defensive undertone.</p>
<p>Roy, why are you constantly linking stuff that doesn&#8217;t support your point of view at all? Do you hope that readers would be too lazy to actually read the stuff you are linking to?</p>
<p>Also &#8216;put 2 and 2 together&#8217; does not count as any kind of reasoning.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2007/11/18/fud-marketing-linux/comment-page-5/#comment-3317</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“well, where does Novell say that Linux infringes on MS-patents?”

http://boycottnovell.com/2007/06/08/where-did-that-235-patent-number-come-from-again/
There was another item I can&#039;t find at the moment about Novell looking at patent portfolios before the deal,

“where is the conspiracy”

http://blogs.cnet.com/8301-13505_1-9793052-16.html
http://boycottnovell.com/2007/09/10/moonlight-only-novell/

Put 2 and 2 together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“well, where does Novell say that Linux infringes on MS-patents?”</p>
<p><a href="http://boycottnovell.com/2007/06/08/where-did-that-235-patent-number-come-from-again/" rel="nofollow">http://boycottnovell.com/2007/06/08/where-did-that-235-patent-number-come-from-again/</a><br />
There was another item I can&#8217;t find at the moment about Novell looking at patent portfolios before the deal,</p>
<p>“where is the conspiracy”</p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.cnet.com/8301-13505_1-9793052-16.html" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.cnet.com/8301-13505_1-9793052-16.html</a><br />
<a href="http://boycottnovell.com/2007/09/10/moonlight-only-novell/" rel="nofollow">http://boycottnovell.com/2007/09/10/moonlight-only-novell/</a></p>
<p>Put 2 and 2 together.</p>
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		<title>By: eet</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2007/11/18/fud-marketing-linux/comment-page-5/#comment-3313</link>
		<dc:creator>eet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... replace &#039;verifiability&#039; with &#039;falsifiability&#039; above.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; replace &#8216;verifiability&#8217; with &#8216;falsifiability&#8217; above.</p>
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		<title>By: eet</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2007/11/18/fud-marketing-linux/comment-page-5/#comment-3311</link>
		<dc:creator>eet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If that was an attempt to really create the impression you had some experience in scientifc arguing let&#039;s just say it has utterly failed to impress.

I don&#039;t have use anything more sophisticated or turn to any more elevated authority than Carl Sagan here. As a child you certainly came into contact with him, little positive effect it might have had on your development.

Nevertheless, his TV-show and books were highly educational, introducing children to basic logic and scientific reasoning. Had you paid more attention to his show as a child you might not have fallen into this trap of false reasoning you&#039;re in now.

So, let&#039;s go back to pre-school. Your theory of Novell having betrayed Linux to Microsoft&#039;s Grand Plan is a &#039;Dragon in My Garage&#039;. It&#039;s a little story by Sagan that actually an analogy. Read it here: http://www.users.qwest.net/~jcosta3/article_dragon.htm

Basically it teaches that anyone can come up with the most absurd allegations that cannot be falsified. The trick is to incorporate non-verifiability into the definition of allegation. If I say, &quot;well, I don&#039;t see that dragon of your&#039;s?&quot; you answer &quot;oh, he&#039;s invisible&quot;; if I say &quot;well, where does Novell say that Linux infringes on MS-patents?&quot; you answer &quot;well, Ballmer says it does so implicitly&quot;; if I say &quot;where is the conspiracy&quot; you answer &quot;it&#039;s invisible because it&#039;s a conspiracy&quot;. So you have incorporated non-verifiability at the very basis of your argument.

Try to falsify my &#039;little green men&#039; to see what I mean.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If that was an attempt to really create the impression you had some experience in scientifc arguing let&#8217;s just say it has utterly failed to impress.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have use anything more sophisticated or turn to any more elevated authority than Carl Sagan here. As a child you certainly came into contact with him, little positive effect it might have had on your development.</p>
<p>Nevertheless, his TV-show and books were highly educational, introducing children to basic logic and scientific reasoning. Had you paid more attention to his show as a child you might not have fallen into this trap of false reasoning you&#8217;re in now.</p>
<p>So, let&#8217;s go back to pre-school. Your theory of Novell having betrayed Linux to Microsoft&#8217;s Grand Plan is a &#8216;Dragon in My Garage&#8217;. It&#8217;s a little story by Sagan that actually an analogy. Read it here: <a href="http://www.users.qwest.net/~jcosta3/article_dragon.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.users.qwest.net/~jcosta3/article_dragon.htm</a></p>
<p>Basically it teaches that anyone can come up with the most absurd allegations that cannot be falsified. The trick is to incorporate non-verifiability into the definition of allegation. If I say, &#8220;well, I don&#8217;t see that dragon of your&#8217;s?&#8221; you answer &#8220;oh, he&#8217;s invisible&#8221;; if I say &#8220;well, where does Novell say that Linux infringes on MS-patents?&#8221; you answer &#8220;well, Ballmer says it does so implicitly&#8221;; if I say &#8220;where is the conspiracy&#8221; you answer &#8220;it&#8217;s invisible because it&#8217;s a conspiracy&#8221;. So you have incorporated non-verifiability at the very basis of your argument.</p>
<p>Try to falsify my &#8216;little green men&#8217; to see what I mean.</p>
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		<title>By: SundayRefugee</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2007/11/18/fud-marketing-linux/comment-page-4/#comment-3301</link>
		<dc:creator>SundayRefugee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 01:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>eet, you&#039;d be surprised about my expertise in just that area ;) Let&#039;s just say that should you wish to persue the topic in some depth, we&#039;ll be going right up my alley, and I am vastly prepared :D

In this case, it is YOU who have made a claim. It is to my knowledge in the area I am commenting on. You cannot back up your statement. Instead, you use a reverse-double-negative and a reverse appeal to authority to back out of a FUD-filled ad-hom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eet, you&#8217;d be surprised about my expertise in just that area <img src='http://techrights.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  Let&#8217;s just say that should you wish to persue the topic in some depth, we&#8217;ll be going right up my alley, and I am vastly prepared <img src='http://techrights.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>In this case, it is YOU who have made a claim. It is to my knowledge in the area I am commenting on. You cannot back up your statement. Instead, you use a reverse-double-negative and a reverse appeal to authority to back out of a FUD-filled ad-hom.</p>
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		<title>By: eet</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2007/11/18/fud-marketing-linux/comment-page-4/#comment-3296</link>
		<dc:creator>eet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, doesn&#039;t time just fly when we&#039;re having fun. It has gotten late. I will see you tomorrow. Don&#039;t forget to do your homework! :)

&lt;font color=&quot;#ff0000&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Note&lt;/b&gt;: comment has been flagged for arriving from an &lt;a href=&quot;http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/22/eet-strommael-gmx-net/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;abusive&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Internet troll&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/font&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, doesn&#8217;t time just fly when we&#8217;re having fun. It has gotten late. I will see you tomorrow. Don&#8217;t forget to do your homework! <img src='http://techrights.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><font color="#ff0000"><b>Note</b>: comment has been flagged for arriving from an <a href="http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/22/eet-strommael-gmx-net/" rel="nofollow">abusive</a> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll" rel="nofollow">Internet troll</a></font></p>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2007/11/18/fud-marketing-linux/comment-page-4/#comment-3295</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent. Then spend more time over at his Web site and stop harassing this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent. Then spend more time over at his Web site and stop harassing this one.</p>
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		<title>By: eet</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2007/11/18/fud-marketing-linux/comment-page-4/#comment-3293</link>
		<dc:creator>eet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From delusional paranoid to delusional paranoid; but to do him justice, he is much more elegant in his argumentation (more intelligent) and has much, much better taste.

&lt;font color=&quot;#ff0000&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Note&lt;/b&gt;: comment has been flagged for arriving from an &lt;a href=&quot;http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/22/eet-strommael-gmx-net/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;abusive&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Internet troll&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/font&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From delusional paranoid to delusional paranoid; but to do him justice, he is much more elegant in his argumentation (more intelligent) and has much, much better taste.</p>
<p><font color="#ff0000"><b>Note</b>: comment has been flagged for arriving from an <a href="http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/22/eet-strommael-gmx-net/" rel="nofollow">abusive</a> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll" rel="nofollow">Internet troll</a></font></p>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2007/11/18/fud-marketing-linux/comment-page-4/#comment-3291</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read Beranger regularly. It wouldn&#039;t surprise me if you bother him as well whenever he mentions Novell and Mono. He &lt;em&gt;too&lt;/em&gt; knows what&#039;s going on and writes about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read Beranger regularly. It wouldn&#8217;t surprise me if you bother him as well whenever he mentions Novell and Mono. He <em>too</em> knows what&#8217;s going on and writes about it.</p>
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		<title>By: eet</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2007/11/18/fud-marketing-linux/comment-page-3/#comment-3288</link>
		<dc:creator>eet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roy, have fun researching Beranger&#039;s blog a little, it you want to satisfy some curiousity.

&lt;font color=&quot;#ff0000&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Note&lt;/b&gt;: comment has been flagged for arriving from an &lt;a href=&quot;http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/22/eet-strommael-gmx-net/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;abusive&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Internet troll&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/font&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roy, have fun researching Beranger&#8217;s blog a little, it you want to satisfy some curiousity.</p>
<p><font color="#ff0000"><b>Note</b>: comment has been flagged for arriving from an <a href="http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/22/eet-strommael-gmx-net/" rel="nofollow">abusive</a> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll" rel="nofollow">Internet troll</a></font></p>
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		<title>By: eet</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2007/11/18/fud-marketing-linux/comment-page-3/#comment-3287</link>
		<dc:creator>eet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reasoning doesn&#039;t work that way round. You don&#039;t prove that what other people claim exists doesn&#039;t exist. Otherwise I could ask you to prove to me that small, green men from outer-space _aren&#039;t_ mind-controlling our politicians, because if you can&#039;t it would be true.

Reasoning doesn&#039;t work that way round, bro; if you make up wild theories it is _you_ who has to prove them.

&lt;font color=&quot;#ff0000&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Note&lt;/b&gt;: comment has been flagged for arriving from an &lt;a href=&quot;http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/22/eet-strommael-gmx-net/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;abusive&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Internet troll&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/font&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reasoning doesn&#8217;t work that way round. You don&#8217;t prove that what other people claim exists doesn&#8217;t exist. Otherwise I could ask you to prove to me that small, green men from outer-space _aren&#8217;t_ mind-controlling our politicians, because if you can&#8217;t it would be true.</p>
<p>Reasoning doesn&#8217;t work that way round, bro; if you make up wild theories it is _you_ who has to prove them.</p>
<p><font color="#ff0000"><b>Note</b>: comment has been flagged for arriving from an <a href="http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/22/eet-strommael-gmx-net/" rel="nofollow">abusive</a> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll" rel="nofollow">Internet troll</a></font></p>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2007/11/18/fud-marketing-linux/comment-page-3/#comment-3286</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SundayRefugee,

He&#039;s spinning for Microsoft now. Next thing you know he&#039;ll take the Rick J. role and claim that Microsoft did absolutely nothing wrong in its pursuit for this OOXML rubber stamp. By the way, Rick J. was paid by Microsoft, which makes him a shill.

I did a quick search for &#039;eet novell&#039; and could see him involved anywhere else. Until he identifies himself, I&#039;ll just assume that he shills for Novell and Microsoft.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SundayRefugee,</p>
<p>He&#8217;s spinning for Microsoft now. Next thing you know he&#8217;ll take the Rick J. role and claim that Microsoft did absolutely nothing wrong in its pursuit for this OOXML rubber stamp. By the way, Rick J. was paid by Microsoft, which makes him a shill.</p>
<p>I did a quick search for &#8216;eet novell&#8217; and could see him involved anywhere else. Until he identifies himself, I&#8217;ll just assume that he shills for Novell and Microsoft.</p>
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