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	<title>Comments on: Quick Mention: The Programmer&#8217;s Advantage in ODF, OOXML Coverage from Hungary</title>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2007/11/28/odf-programming-hungary/comment-page-1/#comment-3919</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 10:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I know.

By the way, I did my favourite searches on the Tube earlier. Microsoft has just stuck some OOXML videos with an open source slant in there (accessibility pitch/FUD).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I know.</p>
<p>By the way, I did my favourite searches on the Tube earlier. Microsoft has just stuck some OOXML videos with an open source slant in there (accessibility pitch/FUD).</p>
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		<title>By: Stephane Rodriguez</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2007/11/28/odf-programming-hungary/comment-page-1/#comment-3916</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephane Rodriguez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 08:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The other tactic being used is that projects being mentioned are always just started. Quite ironically they never mention how much advanced they are. For a reason that is trivial to answer.

It costs nothing to start a new project hosted at some whatever forge-like website. So this is basically Microsoft dressing up for the open-source cause.

This propaganda is handy at a time when ECMA/ISO are involved. Anyone who would have followed this masquerade knows that as soon as Microsoft gets the ISO timestamp for the poorly engineered XML format they created (it&#039;s all paid for, voters are being asked by Microsoft to vote favorably), all those projects will just vanish and never mentioned again.

With the notable exception of Jody Goldberg&#039;s Gnumeric who is doing an outstanding Microsoft shill job. Not to mention Novell&#039;s Windows edition of OpenOffice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The other tactic being used is that projects being mentioned are always just started. Quite ironically they never mention how much advanced they are. For a reason that is trivial to answer.</p>
<p>It costs nothing to start a new project hosted at some whatever forge-like website. So this is basically Microsoft dressing up for the open-source cause.</p>
<p>This propaganda is handy at a time when ECMA/ISO are involved. Anyone who would have followed this masquerade knows that as soon as Microsoft gets the ISO timestamp for the poorly engineered XML format they created (it&#8217;s all paid for, voters are being asked by Microsoft to vote favorably), all those projects will just vanish and never mentioned again.</p>
<p>With the notable exception of Jody Goldberg&#8217;s Gnumeric who is doing an outstanding Microsoft shill job. Not to mention Novell&#8217;s Windows edition of OpenOffice.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2007/11/28/odf-programming-hungary/comment-page-1/#comment-3908</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 22:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am hardly surprised, Stephane. Thanks for pointing that out.

It has already emerged that Microsoft uses grassroots tactics to &lt;b&gt;pretend&lt;/b&gt; that there is support for OOXML in the UK. It also created various Web sites that it accommodated to give the illusion that &#039;the world&#039; is embracing OOXML. This includes an &#039;open source&#039; project for accessibility (the million-dollar FUD card used in MA and elsewhere). All of this was covered here before, along with extensive references.

About Doug, I didn&#039;t know about a briberies connection (I&#039;m aware of several others), but I&#039;m pretty certain that it was him who openly admitted that OOXML is all about Microsoft&#039;s financial interests. Boy, was that  shot in the foot!

I continue to stress this, even using graphical banners: The only driver of OOXML is a mixture of lies, manipulation, bribery, and more. I am absolutely appalled (and angered) because I persistently research this thing and I see more than most people do. It&#039;s not good for my blood pressure. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am hardly surprised, Stephane. Thanks for pointing that out.</p>
<p>It has already emerged that Microsoft uses grassroots tactics to <b>pretend</b> that there is support for OOXML in the UK. It also created various Web sites that it accommodated to give the illusion that &#8216;the world&#8217; is embracing OOXML. This includes an &#8216;open source&#8217; project for accessibility (the million-dollar FUD card used in MA and elsewhere). All of this was covered here before, along with extensive references.</p>
<p>About Doug, I didn&#8217;t know about a briberies connection (I&#8217;m aware of several others), but I&#8217;m pretty certain that it was him who openly admitted that OOXML is all about Microsoft&#8217;s financial interests. Boy, was that  shot in the foot!</p>
<p>I continue to stress this, even using graphical banners: The only driver of OOXML is a mixture of lies, manipulation, bribery, and more. I am absolutely appalled (and angered) because I persistently research this thing and I see more than most people do. It&#8217;s not good for my blood pressure. <img src='http://techrights.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Stephane Rodriguez</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2007/11/28/odf-programming-hungary/comment-page-1/#comment-3907</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephane Rodriguez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 22:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The article you are pointing to is a poorly researched article, unfortunately.

I especially &quot;like&quot; their reference to the PHP project for OOXML and the Java project for OOXML, started by a Microsoft employee, and an employee of a Microsoft shop (Microsoft regional director, close to Microsoft&#039;s Doug &quot;Mr Bribery&quot; Mahugh), respectively.

The C# project for OOXML is, you guessed it, from Microsoft. And when you research it, it does not take long to learn that all it does is abstract the ZIP library a bit. Sounds like Microsoft&#039;s COM object models will still be the de facto libraries to do anything substantial with Word/Excel/Powerpoint for a long time to come. And of course, Microsoft&#039;s COM object model means a running instance of the corresponding applications, i.e. nothing new under the sun when it comes to Office being the trojan horse to lock-in to Windows.

Speaks volume about how much non-Microsoft people like OOXML...

Not much apparently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The article you are pointing to is a poorly researched article, unfortunately.</p>
<p>I especially &#8220;like&#8221; their reference to the PHP project for OOXML and the Java project for OOXML, started by a Microsoft employee, and an employee of a Microsoft shop (Microsoft regional director, close to Microsoft&#8217;s Doug &#8220;Mr Bribery&#8221; Mahugh), respectively.</p>
<p>The C# project for OOXML is, you guessed it, from Microsoft. And when you research it, it does not take long to learn that all it does is abstract the ZIP library a bit. Sounds like Microsoft&#8217;s COM object models will still be the de facto libraries to do anything substantial with Word/Excel/Powerpoint for a long time to come. And of course, Microsoft&#8217;s COM object model means a running instance of the corresponding applications, i.e. nothing new under the sun when it comes to Office being the trojan horse to lock-in to Windows.</p>
<p>Speaks volume about how much non-Microsoft people like OOXML&#8230;</p>
<p>Not much apparently.</p>
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