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	<title>Comments on: Interop is Effectively a Noop (Article by Pandu Rao)</title>
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		<title>By: 4550581kk</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2007/12/21/intraoperability-inoperability-ooxml/comment-page-4/#comment-4429</link>
		<dc:creator>4550581kk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 12:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You can keep changing your name and use new Web proxies, but it’s all too obvious that it’s you.&quot;

Don&#039;t be ridiculous. It is _you_ who auto-filters every message signed by &#039;eet&#039; or with my real e-mail address. 

So I can either sign with &#039;eet&#039; and have my message auto-censored and lost or I can use a random sequence of characters to prevent that. The sequence being random, I think I made it rather obvious that these messages come from me; I am not trying to hide.

So don&#039;t accuse me but stop your policy of censorship against critical voices; then I&#039;ll gladly post as &#039;eet&#039; again.


&lt;font color=&quot;#ff0000&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Note&lt;/b&gt;: comment has been flagged for arriving from an incarnation of a known (eet), pseudonymous, forever-nymshifting, &lt;a href=&quot;http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/22/eet-strommael-gmx-net/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;abusive&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Internet troll&lt;/a&gt; that posts from &lt;a href=&quot;http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/27/eet-proxies/&quot; title=&quot;The ‘eet’ Nuisance Has Many Proxies/Indentities&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;open proxies and relays around the world&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/font&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You can keep changing your name and use new Web proxies, but it’s all too obvious that it’s you.&#8221;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t be ridiculous. It is _you_ who auto-filters every message signed by &#8216;eet&#8217; or with my real e-mail address. </p>
<p>So I can either sign with &#8216;eet&#8217; and have my message auto-censored and lost or I can use a random sequence of characters to prevent that. The sequence being random, I think I made it rather obvious that these messages come from me; I am not trying to hide.</p>
<p>So don&#8217;t accuse me but stop your policy of censorship against critical voices; then I&#8217;ll gladly post as &#8216;eet&#8217; again.</p>
<p><font color="#ff0000"><b>Note</b>: comment has been flagged for arriving from an incarnation of a known (eet), pseudonymous, forever-nymshifting, <a href="http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/22/eet-strommael-gmx-net/" rel="nofollow">abusive</a> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll" rel="nofollow">Internet troll</a> that posts from <a href="http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/27/eet-proxies/" title="The ‘eet’ Nuisance Has Many Proxies/Indentities" rel="nofollow">open proxies and relays around the world</a>.</font></p>
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		<title>By: 410581kk</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2007/12/21/intraoperability-inoperability-ooxml/comment-page-4/#comment-4428</link>
		<dc:creator>410581kk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 12:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You can keep changing your name and use new Web proxies, but it’s all too obvious that it’s you.&quot;

Don&#039;t be ridiculous. It is _you_ who auto-filters every message signed by &#039;eet&#039; or with my real e-mail address.......

So I can either sign with &#039;eet&#039; and have my message auto-censored and lost or I can use a random sequence of characters to prevent that. The sequence being random, I think I made it rather obvious that these messages come from me; I am not trying to hide.

So don&#039;t accuse me but stop your policy of censorship against critical voices; then I&#039;ll gladly post as &#039;eet&#039; again.


&lt;font color=&quot;#ff0000&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Note&lt;/b&gt;: comment has been flagged for arriving from an incarnation of a known (eet), pseudonymous, forever-nymshifting, &lt;a href=&quot;http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/22/eet-strommael-gmx-net/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;abusive&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Internet troll&lt;/a&gt; that posts from &lt;a href=&quot;http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/27/eet-proxies/&quot; title=&quot;The ‘eet’ Nuisance Has Many Proxies/Indentities&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;open proxies and relays around the world&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/font&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You can keep changing your name and use new Web proxies, but it’s all too obvious that it’s you.&#8221;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t be ridiculous. It is _you_ who auto-filters every message signed by &#8216;eet&#8217; or with my real e-mail address&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>So I can either sign with &#8216;eet&#8217; and have my message auto-censored and lost or I can use a random sequence of characters to prevent that. The sequence being random, I think I made it rather obvious that these messages come from me; I am not trying to hide.</p>
<p>So don&#8217;t accuse me but stop your policy of censorship against critical voices; then I&#8217;ll gladly post as &#8216;eet&#8217; again.</p>
<p><font color="#ff0000"><b>Note</b>: comment has been flagged for arriving from an incarnation of a known (eet), pseudonymous, forever-nymshifting, <a href="http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/22/eet-strommael-gmx-net/" rel="nofollow">abusive</a> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll" rel="nofollow">Internet troll</a> that posts from <a href="http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/27/eet-proxies/" title="The ‘eet’ Nuisance Has Many Proxies/Indentities" rel="nofollow">open proxies and relays around the world</a>.</font></p>
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		<title>By: d4rg56g5</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2007/12/21/intraoperability-inoperability-ooxml/comment-page-4/#comment-4427</link>
		<dc:creator>d4rg56g5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 12:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You can keep changing your name and use new Web proxies, but it’s all too obvious that it’s you.&quot;

Don&#039;t be ridiculous. It is _you_ who auto-filters every message signed by &#039;eet&#039; or with my real e-mail address. 

So I can either sign with &#039;eet&#039; and have my message auto-censored and lost or I can use a random sequence of characters to prevent that. The sequence being random, I think I made it rather obvious that these messages come from me; I am not trying to hide.

So don&#039;t accuse me but stop your policy of censorship against critical voices; then I&#039;ll gladly post as &#039;eet&#039; again.


&lt;font color=&quot;#ff0000&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Note&lt;/b&gt;: comment has been flagged for arriving from an incarnation of a known (eet), pseudonymous, forever-nymshifting, &lt;a href=&quot;http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/22/eet-strommael-gmx-net/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;abusive&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Internet troll&lt;/a&gt; that posts from &lt;a href=&quot;http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/27/eet-proxies/&quot; title=&quot;The ‘eet’ Nuisance Has Many Proxies/Indentities&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;open proxies and relays around the world&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/font&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You can keep changing your name and use new Web proxies, but it’s all too obvious that it’s you.&#8221;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t be ridiculous. It is _you_ who auto-filters every message signed by &#8216;eet&#8217; or with my real e-mail address. </p>
<p>So I can either sign with &#8216;eet&#8217; and have my message auto-censored and lost or I can use a random sequence of characters to prevent that. The sequence being random, I think I made it rather obvious that these messages come from me; I am not trying to hide.</p>
<p>So don&#8217;t accuse me but stop your policy of censorship against critical voices; then I&#8217;ll gladly post as &#8216;eet&#8217; again.</p>
<p><font color="#ff0000"><b>Note</b>: comment has been flagged for arriving from an incarnation of a known (eet), pseudonymous, forever-nymshifting, <a href="http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/22/eet-strommael-gmx-net/" rel="nofollow">abusive</a> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll" rel="nofollow">Internet troll</a> that posts from <a href="http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/27/eet-proxies/" title="The ‘eet’ Nuisance Has Many Proxies/Indentities" rel="nofollow">open proxies and relays around the world</a>.</font></p>
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		<title>By: hötrztr</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2007/12/21/intraoperability-inoperability-ooxml/comment-page-4/#comment-4426</link>
		<dc:creator>hötrztr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 12:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You can keep changing your name and use new Web proxies, but it’s all too obvious that it’s you.&quot;

Don&#039;t be ridiculous. It is _you_ who auto-filters every message signed by &#039;eet&#039; or with my real e-mail address.....

So I can either sign with &#039;eet&#039; and have my message auto-censored and lost or I can use a random sequence of characters to prevent that. The sequence being random, I think I made it rather obvious that these messages come from me; I am not trying to hide.

So don&#039;t accuse me but stop your policy of censorship against critical voices; then I&#039;ll gladly post as &#039;eet&#039; again.


&lt;font color=&quot;#ff0000&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Note&lt;/b&gt;: comment has been flagged for arriving from an incarnation of a known (eet), pseudonymous, forever-nymshifting, &lt;a href=&quot;http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/22/eet-strommael-gmx-net/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;abusive&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Internet troll&lt;/a&gt; that posts from &lt;a href=&quot;http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/27/eet-proxies/&quot; title=&quot;The ‘eet’ Nuisance Has Many Proxies/Indentities&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;open proxies and relays around the world&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/font&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You can keep changing your name and use new Web proxies, but it’s all too obvious that it’s you.&#8221;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t be ridiculous. It is _you_ who auto-filters every message signed by &#8216;eet&#8217; or with my real e-mail address&#8230;..</p>
<p>So I can either sign with &#8216;eet&#8217; and have my message auto-censored and lost or I can use a random sequence of characters to prevent that. The sequence being random, I think I made it rather obvious that these messages come from me; I am not trying to hide.</p>
<p>So don&#8217;t accuse me but stop your policy of censorship against critical voices; then I&#8217;ll gladly post as &#8216;eet&#8217; again.</p>
<p><font color="#ff0000"><b>Note</b>: comment has been flagged for arriving from an incarnation of a known (eet), pseudonymous, forever-nymshifting, <a href="http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/22/eet-strommael-gmx-net/" rel="nofollow">abusive</a> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll" rel="nofollow">Internet troll</a> that posts from <a href="http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/27/eet-proxies/" title="The ‘eet’ Nuisance Has Many Proxies/Indentities" rel="nofollow">open proxies and relays around the world</a>.</font></p>
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		<title>By: hötrztr</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2007/12/21/intraoperability-inoperability-ooxml/comment-page-4/#comment-4425</link>
		<dc:creator>hötrztr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 12:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You can keep changing your name and use new Web proxies, but it’s all too obvious that it’s you.&quot;

Don&#039;t be ridiculous. It is _you_ who auto-filters every message signed by &#039;eet&#039; or with my real e-mail address....

So I can either sign with &#039;eet&#039; and have my message auto-censored and lost or I can use a random sequence of characters to prevent that. The sequence being random, I think I made it rather obvious that these messages come from me; I am not trying to hide.

So don&#039;t accuse me but stop your policy of censorship against critical voices; then I&#039;ll gladly post as &#039;eet&#039; again.


&lt;font color=&quot;#ff0000&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Note&lt;/b&gt;: comment has been flagged for arriving from an incarnation of a known (eet), pseudonymous, forever-nymshifting, &lt;a href=&quot;http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/22/eet-strommael-gmx-net/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;abusive&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Internet troll&lt;/a&gt; that posts from &lt;a href=&quot;http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/27/eet-proxies/&quot; title=&quot;The ‘eet’ Nuisance Has Many Proxies/Indentities&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;open proxies and relays around the world&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/font&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You can keep changing your name and use new Web proxies, but it’s all too obvious that it’s you.&#8221;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t be ridiculous. It is _you_ who auto-filters every message signed by &#8216;eet&#8217; or with my real e-mail address&#8230;.</p>
<p>So I can either sign with &#8216;eet&#8217; and have my message auto-censored and lost or I can use a random sequence of characters to prevent that. The sequence being random, I think I made it rather obvious that these messages come from me; I am not trying to hide.</p>
<p>So don&#8217;t accuse me but stop your policy of censorship against critical voices; then I&#8217;ll gladly post as &#8216;eet&#8217; again.</p>
<p><font color="#ff0000"><b>Note</b>: comment has been flagged for arriving from an incarnation of a known (eet), pseudonymous, forever-nymshifting, <a href="http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/22/eet-strommael-gmx-net/" rel="nofollow">abusive</a> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll" rel="nofollow">Internet troll</a> that posts from <a href="http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/27/eet-proxies/" title="The ‘eet’ Nuisance Has Many Proxies/Indentities" rel="nofollow">open proxies and relays around the world</a>.</font></p>
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		<title>By: hötrztr</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2007/12/21/intraoperability-inoperability-ooxml/comment-page-3/#comment-4424</link>
		<dc:creator>hötrztr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 12:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You can keep changing your name and use new Web proxies, but it’s all too obvious that it’s you.&quot;

Don&#039;t be ridiculous. It is _you_ who auto-filters every message signed by &#039;eet&#039; or with my real e-mail address...

So I can either sign with &#039;eet&#039; and have my message auto-censored and lost or I can use a random sequence of characters to prevent that. The sequence being random, I think I made it rather obvious that these messages come from me; I am not trying to hide.

So don&#039;t accuse me but stop your policy of censorship against critical voices; then I&#039;ll gladly post as &#039;eet&#039; again.


&lt;font color=&quot;#ff0000&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Note&lt;/b&gt;: comment has been flagged for arriving from an incarnation of a known (eet), pseudonymous, forever-nymshifting, &lt;a href=&quot;http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/22/eet-strommael-gmx-net/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;abusive&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Internet troll&lt;/a&gt; that posts from &lt;a href=&quot;http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/27/eet-proxies/&quot; title=&quot;The ‘eet’ Nuisance Has Many Proxies/Indentities&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;open proxies and relays around the world&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/font&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You can keep changing your name and use new Web proxies, but it’s all too obvious that it’s you.&#8221;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t be ridiculous. It is _you_ who auto-filters every message signed by &#8216;eet&#8217; or with my real e-mail address&#8230;</p>
<p>So I can either sign with &#8216;eet&#8217; and have my message auto-censored and lost or I can use a random sequence of characters to prevent that. The sequence being random, I think I made it rather obvious that these messages come from me; I am not trying to hide.</p>
<p>So don&#8217;t accuse me but stop your policy of censorship against critical voices; then I&#8217;ll gladly post as &#8216;eet&#8217; again.</p>
<p><font color="#ff0000"><b>Note</b>: comment has been flagged for arriving from an incarnation of a known (eet), pseudonymous, forever-nymshifting, <a href="http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/22/eet-strommael-gmx-net/" rel="nofollow">abusive</a> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll" rel="nofollow">Internet troll</a> that posts from <a href="http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/27/eet-proxies/" title="The ‘eet’ Nuisance Has Many Proxies/Indentities" rel="nofollow">open proxies and relays around the world</a>.</font></p>
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		<title>By: hötrztr</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2007/12/21/intraoperability-inoperability-ooxml/comment-page-3/#comment-4423</link>
		<dc:creator>hötrztr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 12:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You can keep changing your name and use new Web proxies, but it’s all too obvious that it’s you.&quot;

Don&#039;t be ridiculous. It is _you_ who auto-filters every message signed by &#039;eet&#039; or with my real e-mail address. 

So I can either sign with &#039;eet&#039; and have my message auto-censored and lost or I can use a random sequence of characters to prevent that. The sequence being random, I think I made it rather obvious that these messages come from me; I am not trying to hide.

So don&#039;t accuse me but stop your policy of censorship against critical voices; then I&#039;ll gladly post as &#039;eet&#039; again.


&lt;font color=&quot;#ff0000&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Note&lt;/b&gt;: comment has been flagged for arriving from an incarnation of a known (eet), pseudonymous, forever-nymshifting, &lt;a href=&quot;http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/22/eet-strommael-gmx-net/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;abusive&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Internet troll&lt;/a&gt; that posts from &lt;a href=&quot;http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/27/eet-proxies/&quot; title=&quot;The ‘eet’ Nuisance Has Many Proxies/Indentities&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;open proxies and relays around the world&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/font&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You can keep changing your name and use new Web proxies, but it’s all too obvious that it’s you.&#8221;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t be ridiculous. It is _you_ who auto-filters every message signed by &#8216;eet&#8217; or with my real e-mail address. </p>
<p>So I can either sign with &#8216;eet&#8217; and have my message auto-censored and lost or I can use a random sequence of characters to prevent that. The sequence being random, I think I made it rather obvious that these messages come from me; I am not trying to hide.</p>
<p>So don&#8217;t accuse me but stop your policy of censorship against critical voices; then I&#8217;ll gladly post as &#8216;eet&#8217; again.</p>
<p><font color="#ff0000"><b>Note</b>: comment has been flagged for arriving from an incarnation of a known (eet), pseudonymous, forever-nymshifting, <a href="http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/22/eet-strommael-gmx-net/" rel="nofollow">abusive</a> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll" rel="nofollow">Internet troll</a> that posts from <a href="http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/27/eet-proxies/" title="The ‘eet’ Nuisance Has Many Proxies/Indentities" rel="nofollow">open proxies and relays around the world</a>.</font></p>
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		<title>By: htrztr</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2007/12/21/intraoperability-inoperability-ooxml/comment-page-3/#comment-4421</link>
		<dc:creator>htrztr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 11:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You can keep changing your name and use new Web proxies, but it’s all too obvious that it’s you.&quot;

Don&#039;t be ridiculous. It is _you_ who auto-filters every message signed by &#039;eet&#039; or with my real e-mail address. 

So I can either sign with &#039;eet&#039; and have my message auto-censored and lost or I can use a random sequence of characters to prevent that. The sequence being random, I think I made it rather obvious that these messages come from me; I am not trying to hide.

So don&#039;t accuse me but stop your policy of censorship against critical voices; then I&#039;ll gladly post as &#039;eet&#039; again.


&lt;font color=&quot;#ff0000&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Note&lt;/b&gt;: comment has been flagged for arriving from an incarnation of a known (eet), pseudonymous, forever-nymshifting, &lt;a href=&quot;http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/22/eet-strommael-gmx-net/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;abusive&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Internet troll&lt;/a&gt; that posts from &lt;a href=&quot;http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/27/eet-proxies/&quot; title=&quot;The ‘eet’ Nuisance Has Many Proxies/Indentities&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;open proxies and relays around the world&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/font&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You can keep changing your name and use new Web proxies, but it’s all too obvious that it’s you.&#8221;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t be ridiculous. It is _you_ who auto-filters every message signed by &#8216;eet&#8217; or with my real e-mail address. </p>
<p>So I can either sign with &#8216;eet&#8217; and have my message auto-censored and lost or I can use a random sequence of characters to prevent that. The sequence being random, I think I made it rather obvious that these messages come from me; I am not trying to hide.</p>
<p>So don&#8217;t accuse me but stop your policy of censorship against critical voices; then I&#8217;ll gladly post as &#8216;eet&#8217; again.</p>
<p><font color="#ff0000"><b>Note</b>: comment has been flagged for arriving from an incarnation of a known (eet), pseudonymous, forever-nymshifting, <a href="http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/22/eet-strommael-gmx-net/" rel="nofollow">abusive</a> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll" rel="nofollow">Internet troll</a> that posts from <a href="http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/27/eet-proxies/" title="The ‘eet’ Nuisance Has Many Proxies/Indentities" rel="nofollow">open proxies and relays around the world</a>.</font></p>
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		<title>By: rewr4rf</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2007/12/21/intraoperability-inoperability-ooxml/comment-page-3/#comment-4413</link>
		<dc:creator>rewr4rf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 19:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You can keep changing your name&quot;

I do type in a very obviously random series of letters and number instead of &#039;eet&#039; because otherwise my messages get filtered out automatically, thank you.

So it is your censorship which gave you a handle to call me &#039;nymshifting&#039;.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You can keep changing your name&#8221;</p>
<p>I do type in a very obviously random series of letters and number instead of &#8216;eet&#8217; because otherwise my messages get filtered out automatically, thank you.</p>
<p>So it is your censorship which gave you a handle to call me &#8216;nymshifting&#8217;.</p>
<p><font color="#ff0000"><b>Note</b>: comment has been flagged for arriving from an incarnation of a known (eet), pseudonymous, forever-nymshifting, <a href="http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/22/eet-strommael-gmx-net/" rel="nofollow">abusive</a> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll" rel="nofollow">Internet troll</a> that posts from <a href="http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/27/eet-proxies/" title="The ‘eet’ Nuisance Has Many Proxies/Indentities" rel="nofollow">open proxies and relays around the world</a>.</font></p>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2007/12/21/intraoperability-inoperability-ooxml/comment-page-3/#comment-4412</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 19:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can keep changing your name and use new Web proxies, but it&#039;s all too obvious that it&#039;s you. Feel free to harass those other Web sites where you are already banned.

Your past behavior, which includes insulting even site readers and invoking Godwin&#039;s law, have earned you the status of being the &lt;b&gt;ONLY&lt;/b&gt; person in this site whose comments are not welcome. It&#039;s readers of this site who requested that you get censored for terrible behaviour.

Don&#039;t paint yourself as polite all of a sudden and portray yourself as a victim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can keep changing your name and use new Web proxies, but it&#8217;s all too obvious that it&#8217;s you. Feel free to harass those other Web sites where you are already banned.</p>
<p>Your past behavior, which includes insulting even site readers and invoking Godwin&#8217;s law, have earned you the status of being the <b>ONLY</b> person in this site whose comments are not welcome. It&#8217;s readers of this site who requested that you get censored for terrible behaviour.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t paint yourself as polite all of a sudden and portray yourself as a victim.</p>
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		<title>By: rewr4rf</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2007/12/21/intraoperability-inoperability-ooxml/comment-page-2/#comment-4410</link>
		<dc:creator>rewr4rf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 18:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are really a weasel BTW, complaining about insults, while insinuating just sooooo indirectly that Jeff Waugh has lied to you. You carry a hidden dagger, talk slanderously behind people&#039;s back. You wouldn&#039;t dare saying stuff like what you have insinuated above into Jeff&#039;s face because you are a coward, of course.

What kind of creature are you, Roy?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are really a weasel BTW, complaining about insults, while insinuating just sooooo indirectly that Jeff Waugh has lied to you. You carry a hidden dagger, talk slanderously behind people&#8217;s back. You wouldn&#8217;t dare saying stuff like what you have insinuated above into Jeff&#8217;s face because you are a coward, of course.</p>
<p>What kind of creature are you, Roy?</p>
<p><font color="#ff0000"><b>Note</b>: comment has been flagged for arriving from a known (eet), pseudonymous, nymshifting, <a href="http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/22/eet-strommael-gmx-net/" rel="nofollow">abusive</a> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll" rel="nofollow">Internet troll</a> that posts from <a href="http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/27/eet-proxies/" title="The ‘eet’ Nuisance Has Many Proxies/Indentities" rel="nofollow">open proxies and relays around the world</a>.</font></p>
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		<title>By: rewr4rf</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2007/12/21/intraoperability-inoperability-ooxml/comment-page-2/#comment-4409</link>
		<dc:creator>rewr4rf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 18:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, you are one to talk about insults! 

BTW, how would you know who is me and who is not? Better bury your desire for censorship and take criticism like a man. But it seems for you freedom is only your own freedom.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, you are one to talk about insults! </p>
<p>BTW, how would you know who is me and who is not? Better bury your desire for censorship and take criticism like a man. But it seems for you freedom is only your own freedom.</p>
<p><font color="#ff0000"><b>Note</b>: comment has been flagged for arriving from a known (eet), pseudonymous, nymshifting, <a href="http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/22/eet-strommael-gmx-net/" rel="nofollow">abusive</a> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll" rel="nofollow">Internet troll</a> that posts from <a href="http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/27/eet-proxies/" title="The ‘eet’ Nuisance Has Many Proxies/Indentities" rel="nofollow">open proxies and relays around the world</a>.</font></p>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2007/12/21/intraoperability-inoperability-ooxml/comment-page-2/#comment-4406</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 16:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>eet, if you carry on with your proxy game, we&#039;ll just delete all your comments (past and present). You&#039;re going too far with your insults, especially elsewhere. If you don&#039;t like this site, don&#039;t visit it,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eet, if you carry on with your proxy game, we&#8217;ll just delete all your comments (past and present). You&#8217;re going too far with your insults, especially elsewhere. If you don&#8217;t like this site, don&#8217;t visit it,</p>
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		<title>By: htrztr</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2007/12/21/intraoperability-inoperability-ooxml/comment-page-2/#comment-4404</link>
		<dc:creator>htrztr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 15:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Make no mistake. de Icaza is still on the board of the GNOME Foundation, says Jeff Waugh. I’m tired of being deceived at best (or at worst being lied to).&quot;

You crazy little man... Is being a hater your idea of contributing to the community?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Make no mistake. de Icaza is still on the board of the GNOME Foundation, says Jeff Waugh. I’m tired of being deceived at best (or at worst being lied to).&#8221;</p>
<p>You crazy little man&#8230; Is being a hater your idea of contributing to the community?</p>
<p><font color="#ff0000"><b>Note</b>: comment has been flagged for arriving from a known (eet), pseudonymous, nymshifting, <a href="http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/22/eet-strommael-gmx-net/" rel="nofollow">abusive</a> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll" rel="nofollow">Internet troll</a> that posts from <a href="http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/27/eet-proxies/" title="The ‘eet’ Nuisance Has Many Proxies/Indentities" rel="nofollow">open proxies and relays around the world</a>.</font></p>
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		<title>By: Stephane Rodriguez</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2007/12/21/intraoperability-inoperability-ooxml/comment-page-2/#comment-4402</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephane Rodriguez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 11:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Roy,

&quot;Doesn’t that (Sharepoint integration points) already exist?&quot;

Yes. I meant more integration points. I expect some additional integration points, with their CRM product line, Biztalk, Live services, and other things. Perhaps even .NET connectors to Sharepoint. At some point, Microsoft may introduce the Mono/.NET interoperability trick (if you forget the licensing).

@Yuhong,

&quot;Indeed, Sun is only getting a head start on implementing OOXML so a converter will be ready by the time it gets popular.&quot;

By Sun you mean the OpenOffice guys? If that&#039;s what you mean, I&#039;m not entirely sure, OpenOffice will have to support some of the advanced stuff that is introduced in the Office 2007 documents, such as the new drawing/theming/rendering. This is a lot more work than just read/write. Estimation : 3 years of work. I would say the only vendor getting a head start here is Microsoft, and I expect them to play that game with Office 2009 as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Roy,</p>
<p>&#8220;Doesn’t that (Sharepoint integration points) already exist?&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes. I meant more integration points. I expect some additional integration points, with their CRM product line, Biztalk, Live services, and other things. Perhaps even .NET connectors to Sharepoint. At some point, Microsoft may introduce the Mono/.NET interoperability trick (if you forget the licensing).</p>
<p>@Yuhong,</p>
<p>&#8220;Indeed, Sun is only getting a head start on implementing OOXML so a converter will be ready by the time it gets popular.&#8221;</p>
<p>By Sun you mean the OpenOffice guys? If that&#8217;s what you mean, I&#8217;m not entirely sure, OpenOffice will have to support some of the advanced stuff that is introduced in the Office 2007 documents, such as the new drawing/theming/rendering. This is a lot more work than just read/write. Estimation : 3 years of work. I would say the only vendor getting a head start here is Microsoft, and I expect them to play that game with Office 2009 as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2007/12/21/intraoperability-inoperability-ooxml/comment-page-1/#comment-4400</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 10:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ribbon provides a perceived (and visible) added value which makes users &lt;em&gt;believe&lt;/em&gt; they get their money&#039;s worth. I&#039;m not too worried about those patents because there&#039;s prior art (in Blender 3D, I think) and there&#039;s more:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.corel.com/servlet/Satellite?c=Content_C1&amp;cid=1166553933785&amp;lc=en&amp;pagename=CorelCom%2FLayout&amp;trkid=wpe0107ft&quot; title=&quot;Is Imitation The Sincerest Form of Flattery?&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Is Imitation The Sincerest Form of Flattery?&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;http://www.corel.com/servlet/Satellite?c=Content_C1&amp;cid=1166553933785&amp;lc=en&amp;pagename=CorelCom%2FLayout&amp;trkid=wpe0107ft&quot;&gt;
As many as 8 of the top 10 benefits of Microsoft Office 2007 provide capabilities that have already been addressed by Corel WordPerfect Office X3. Some &quot;new&quot; features of Microsoft Office 2007 have even been part of Corel WordPerfect Office for close to a decade!
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

There are other factors to consider. For example,&#039;ribbon backlash&#039; already takes users back to the old UI (if not other office suites). See &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/channel/partners_fix_up_office_2007_and_windows_vista.html?kc=MWRSS02129TX1K0000535&quot; title=&quot;Partners Fix Up Office 2007 and Windows Vista&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;:

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/channel/partners_fix_up_office_2007_and_windows_vista.html?kc=MWRSS02129TX1K0000535&quot;&gt;
On Friday, Addintools, based in Hai-nan, China released Classic Menu for Office 2007, after more than six months of beta testing. The user interface  enhancement does what Office 2007 can&#039;t: Revert to the Office 2003 look and feel.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Here&#039;s some more about that ribbon:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dexodesign.com/2007/08/why-microsofts-ribbon-sucks.html&quot; title=&quot;Why Microsoft&#039;s ribbon sucks&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Why Microsoft&#039;s ribbon sucks&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;http://www.dexodesign.com/2007/08/why-microsofts-ribbon-sucks.html&quot;&gt;
Bottom line, I have a lot of respect for Microsoft and many of the outstanding people that work there (e.g. Bill Buxton). 

But the new ribbon sucks.
 
I&#039;ve been using it daily for months (Word, Powerpoint, Excel), and I consistently stumble on the same functions over and over again. I doubt I will ever master it. And I&#039;m an interface designer!  
&lt;/blockquote&gt;


&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fumbled.org/2007/04/20/poor-design-by-microsoft-save-as-button-in-2007-excel-has-been-located/&quot; title=&quot;Poor Design by Microsoft - &quot;Save As&quot; Button in 2007 Excel has been located!&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Poor Design by Microsoft - &quot;Save As&quot; Button in 2007 Excel has been located!&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;http://www.fumbled.org/2007/04/20/poor-design-by-microsoft-save-as-button-in-2007-excel-has-been-located/&quot;&gt;
In an experiment 4 out of 5 users took longer than 2 minutes to find the SAVE AS button. And 3 of those users needed to use the PAPER CLIP (CLIPPY). This is clearly poor design upon Microsoft. They never think about the end user. The menu structure is horrific and it has been proven inefficient!
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB116786111022966326-T8UUTIl2b10DaW11usf4NasZTYI_20080103.html&quot; title=&quot;Bold Redesign Improves Office 2007 But Learning Curve May Be Too Steep for Some Users&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bold Redesign Improves Office 2007 But Learning Curve May Be Too Steep for Some Users&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB116786111022966326-T8UUTIl2b10DaW11usf4NasZTYI_20080103.html&quot;&gt;
&quot;it requires a steep learning curve that many people might rather avoid. In my own tests, I was cursing the program for weeks&quot;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://byronmiller.typepad.com/byronmiller/2007/04/office_2007_one.html&quot; title=&quot;Office 2007 Review: One Step Forward, Two Steps Back - Part 1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Office 2007 Review: One Step Forward, Two Steps Back - Part 1&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;http://byronmiller.typepad.com/byronmiller/2007/04/office_2007_one.html&quot;&gt;
I&#039;ve been using Office 2007 for a couple of weeks and I&#039;m convinced that Microsoft missed an opportunity to change the way we relate to software by taking one step toward radical change, but ultimately failing when it came to implementation.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;



The bad news is that &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=519&quot; title=&quot;July 1: No more Office 2003 for OEMs&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Microsoft will try to forcefeed through expiry of predecessors&lt;/a&gt;, just like with Vista/XP. It can be seen as good news, however, because this leads to backlash that promotes competing products from other vendors that play with OpenDocument (portability).

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=519&quot;&gt;
It’s only been six months since Microsoft launched Office 2007 at retail. But as of July 1, 2007,  Microsoft won’t be making the OEM version of Office 2003 to its PC partners, a k a “OEMs.”  
 
[...]
 
Microsoft has told OEMs that they must stop selling Windows XP preloaded on machines as of January 29, 2008. Retailers also are required to stop selling XP on that date.   
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

In case you don&#039;t know about the backlash, consider these:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/7234/53/&quot; title=&quot;Office 2007 may be Microsoft&#039;s Titanic: former Government IT boss&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Office 2007 may be Microsoft&#039;s Titanic: former Government IT boss&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/7234/53/&quot;&gt;
Bill Gates has been talking up Office 2007 ahead of its business launch on November 30. However, the recently departed deputy CIO of one of Australia&#039;s biggest government Microsoft sites believes introducing the new version of Microsoft Office may be the company&#039;s biggest ever disaster.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;



&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/8561/1023/&quot; title=&quot;Question: why do I need to upgrade to Office 2007?&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Question: why do I need to upgrade to Office 2007?&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/8561/1023/&quot;&gt;
Much has been said and written about Microsoft&#039;s &quot;bold&quot;, &quot;gutsy&quot;, and &quot;innovative&quot; initiative of releasing Office 2007, an office productivity suite with a totally new user interface. However, the question that is bound to be on the lips of every user will be: &quot;why do I need to upgrade?&quot; Microsoft doesn&#039;t really have a good answer.
 
[...]

Microsoft, however, claims to have come up with something better and more intuitive - the Ribbon. Such a claim begs the question: &quot;If the new user interface of Office 2007 is so intuitive, why does it have a learning curve?&quot; And it does have a learning curve - a very steep learning curve.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ribbon provides a perceived (and visible) added value which makes users <em>believe</em> they get their money&#8217;s worth. I&#8217;m not too worried about those patents because there&#8217;s prior art (in Blender 3D, I think) and there&#8217;s more:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.corel.com/servlet/Satellite?c=Content_C1&#038;cid=1166553933785&#038;lc=en&#038;pagename=CorelCom%2FLayout&#038;trkid=wpe0107ft" title="Is Imitation The Sincerest Form of Flattery?" rel="nofollow">Is Imitation The Sincerest Form of Flattery?</a></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.corel.com/servlet/Satellite?c=Content_C1&#038;cid=1166553933785&#038;lc=en&#038;pagename=CorelCom%2FLayout&#038;trkid=wpe0107ft"><p>
As many as 8 of the top 10 benefits of Microsoft Office 2007 provide capabilities that have already been addressed by Corel WordPerfect Office X3. Some &#8220;new&#8221; features of Microsoft Office 2007 have even been part of Corel WordPerfect Office for close to a decade!
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<p>There are other factors to consider. For example,&#8217;ribbon backlash&#8217; already takes users back to the old UI (if not other office suites). See <a href="http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/channel/partners_fix_up_office_2007_and_windows_vista.html?kc=MWRSS02129TX1K0000535" title="Partners Fix Up Office 2007 and Windows Vista" rel="nofollow">this</a>:</p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/channel/partners_fix_up_office_2007_and_windows_vista.html?kc=MWRSS02129TX1K0000535"><p>
On Friday, Addintools, based in Hai-nan, China released Classic Menu for Office 2007, after more than six months of beta testing. The user interface  enhancement does what Office 2007 can&#8217;t: Revert to the Office 2003 look and feel.
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<p>Here&#8217;s some more about that ribbon:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dexodesign.com/2007/08/why-microsofts-ribbon-sucks.html" title="Why Microsoft's ribbon sucks" rel="nofollow">Why Microsoft&#8217;s ribbon sucks</a></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.dexodesign.com/2007/08/why-microsofts-ribbon-sucks.html"><p>
Bottom line, I have a lot of respect for Microsoft and many of the outstanding people that work there (e.g. Bill Buxton). </p>
<p>But the new ribbon sucks.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been using it daily for months (Word, Powerpoint, Excel), and I consistently stumble on the same functions over and over again. I doubt I will ever master it. And I&#8217;m an interface designer!
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<p><a href="http://www.fumbled.org/2007/04/20/poor-design-by-microsoft-save-as-button-in-2007-excel-has-been-located/" title="Poor Design by Microsoft - "Save As" Button in 2007 Excel has been located!" rel="nofollow">Poor Design by Microsoft &#8211; &#8220;Save As&#8221; Button in 2007 Excel has been located!</a></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.fumbled.org/2007/04/20/poor-design-by-microsoft-save-as-button-in-2007-excel-has-been-located/"><p>
In an experiment 4 out of 5 users took longer than 2 minutes to find the SAVE AS button. And 3 of those users needed to use the PAPER CLIP (CLIPPY). This is clearly poor design upon Microsoft. They never think about the end user. The menu structure is horrific and it has been proven inefficient!
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<p><a href="http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB116786111022966326-T8UUTIl2b10DaW11usf4NasZTYI_20080103.html" title="Bold Redesign Improves Office 2007 But Learning Curve May Be Too Steep for Some Users" rel="nofollow">Bold Redesign Improves Office 2007 But Learning Curve May Be Too Steep for Some Users</a></p>
<blockquote cite="http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB116786111022966326-T8UUTIl2b10DaW11usf4NasZTYI_20080103.html"><p>
&#8220;it requires a steep learning curve that many people might rather avoid. In my own tests, I was cursing the program for weeks&#8221;
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<p><a href="http://byronmiller.typepad.com/byronmiller/2007/04/office_2007_one.html" title="Office 2007 Review: One Step Forward, Two Steps Back - Part 1" rel="nofollow">Office 2007 Review: One Step Forward, Two Steps Back &#8211; Part 1</a></p>
<blockquote cite="http://byronmiller.typepad.com/byronmiller/2007/04/office_2007_one.html"><p>
I&#8217;ve been using Office 2007 for a couple of weeks and I&#8217;m convinced that Microsoft missed an opportunity to change the way we relate to software by taking one step toward radical change, but ultimately failing when it came to implementation.
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<p>The bad news is that <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=519" title="July 1: No more Office 2003 for OEMs" rel="nofollow">Microsoft will try to forcefeed through expiry of predecessors</a>, just like with Vista/XP. It can be seen as good news, however, because this leads to backlash that promotes competing products from other vendors that play with OpenDocument (portability).</p>
<blockquote cite="http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=519"><p>
It’s only been six months since Microsoft launched Office 2007 at retail. But as of July 1, 2007,  Microsoft won’t be making the OEM version of Office 2003 to its PC partners, a k a “OEMs.”  </p>
<p>[...]</p>
<p>Microsoft has told OEMs that they must stop selling Windows XP preloaded on machines as of January 29, 2008. Retailers also are required to stop selling XP on that date.
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<p>In case you don&#8217;t know about the backlash, consider these:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/7234/53/" title="Office 2007 may be Microsoft's Titanic: former Government IT boss" rel="nofollow">Office 2007 may be Microsoft&#8217;s Titanic: former Government IT boss</a></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/7234/53/"><p>
Bill Gates has been talking up Office 2007 ahead of its business launch on November 30. However, the recently departed deputy CIO of one of Australia&#8217;s biggest government Microsoft sites believes introducing the new version of Microsoft Office may be the company&#8217;s biggest ever disaster.
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<p><a href="http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/8561/1023/" title="Question: why do I need to upgrade to Office 2007?" rel="nofollow">Question: why do I need to upgrade to Office 2007?</a></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/8561/1023/"><p>
Much has been said and written about Microsoft&#8217;s &#8220;bold&#8221;, &#8220;gutsy&#8221;, and &#8220;innovative&#8221; initiative of releasing Office 2007, an office productivity suite with a totally new user interface. However, the question that is bound to be on the lips of every user will be: &#8220;why do I need to upgrade?&#8221; Microsoft doesn&#8217;t really have a good answer.</p>
<p>[...]</p>
<p>Microsoft, however, claims to have come up with something better and more intuitive &#8211; the Ribbon. Such a claim begs the question: &#8220;If the new user interface of Office 2007 is so intuitive, why does it have a learning curve?&#8221; And it does have a learning curve &#8211; a very steep learning curve.
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		<title>By: Yuhong Bao</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2007/12/21/intraoperability-inoperability-ooxml/comment-page-1/#comment-4399</link>
		<dc:creator>Yuhong Bao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 08:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d say that almost everything that is not in ODF that is in Office can be implemented using extensions to ODF.
Indeed, Sun is only getting a head start on implementing OOXML so a converter will be ready by the time it gets popular.
See http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS/entry/office_open_xml_ooxml_filter .
On the ribbon, that is a different issue. BTW, Office 2007&#039;s UI patents is a glaring example of why UI patents need to be restricted. The license restricts competing products from implementing the UI. Users often demand that any competitor minic Office&#039;s UI. The two combined to effectively make switching to another office suite more expensive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d say that almost everything that is not in ODF that is in Office can be implemented using extensions to ODF.<br />
Indeed, Sun is only getting a head start on implementing OOXML so a converter will be ready by the time it gets popular.<br />
See <a href="http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS/entry/office_open_xml_ooxml_filter" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS/entry/office_open_xml_ooxml_filter</a> .<br />
On the ribbon, that is a different issue. BTW, Office 2007&#8242;s UI patents is a glaring example of why UI patents need to be restricted. The license restricts competing products from implementing the UI. Users often demand that any competitor minic Office&#8217;s UI. The two combined to effectively make switching to another office suite more expensive.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2007/12/21/intraoperability-inoperability-ooxml/comment-page-1/#comment-4398</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 08:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
...there is no reason for a vendor to implement this stuff.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I took some more notes about these issues and I&#039;ll post more information tomorrow. Actually, I have heaps of stuff that I haven&#039;t found time to post, so there will be posts through the holiday.

Make no mistake. de Icaza is still on the board of the GNOME Foundation, says Jeff Waugh. I&#039;m tired of being deceived at best (or at worst being lied to).

&lt;blockquote&gt;
...integration points with other Microsoft products, like Sharepoint
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Doesn&#039;t that already exist?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>
&#8230;there is no reason for a vendor to implement this stuff.
</p></blockquote>
<p>I took some more notes about these issues and I&#8217;ll post more information tomorrow. Actually, I have heaps of stuff that I haven&#8217;t found time to post, so there will be posts through the holiday.</p>
<p>Make no mistake. de Icaza is still on the board of the GNOME Foundation, says Jeff Waugh. I&#8217;m tired of being deceived at best (or at worst being lied to).</p>
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&#8230;integration points with other Microsoft products, like Sharepoint
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<p>Doesn&#8217;t that already exist?</p>
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		<title>By: Stephane Rodriguez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephane Rodriguez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 08:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Timing is key. And that&#039;s why what Gnome and other Deicazaed people are doing is despicable. 

There should be no confusion between two things : 1) the new file formats that Microsoft Office is defaulting to are not going to get broadly adopted before a few more years, because not everybody out there thinks they need to adopt it as fast as they can, and that Microsoft and their silly ribbon user interface have slowed down that adoption even more. During this period of time, which may be between 2007 and 2010, there is no reason for a vendor to implement this stuff. Why Gnome guys are doing this right now, as fast as they can, is because it&#039;s paid work, no need to find other reasons. 2) if and when those new file formats are widely adopted, it&#039;s a given that competing Office suites will want to implement it as well otherwise they&#039;ll lose customers. But, as I alluded to a while ago in a comment on this blog, there are two different implementations possible : one favors Microsoft, it&#039;s what Gnumeric is doing, the data structure is modelled around Microsoft Excel file format, therefore Gnumeric is just a (bad) clone and will always lose on the market. The other implementation considers a superset data structure, a flexible Office document format model, flexible enough so that Microsoft Office 2007 formats are just a simple subset and can be supported without much fanfare. I think this data structure is ODF plus extensions because, unlike Microsoft&#039;s, it&#039;s based on other standards rather than reinventing the wheel at every turn. The latter implementation is the one that should be favored.

It will be interesting to see, in Microsoft Office 2009, what will be the changes in the file formats in the following areas :
- integration points with other Microsoft products, like Sharepoint
- integration points with Live services (is Office Live workspace exclusive to Office 2007 for instance?)
- layout semantics and WPF/Vista. Will Office 2009 directly depend (or indirectly be optimized) on Microsoft&#039;s latest operating system APIs ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Timing is key. And that&#8217;s why what Gnome and other Deicazaed people are doing is despicable. </p>
<p>There should be no confusion between two things : 1) the new file formats that Microsoft Office is defaulting to are not going to get broadly adopted before a few more years, because not everybody out there thinks they need to adopt it as fast as they can, and that Microsoft and their silly ribbon user interface have slowed down that adoption even more. During this period of time, which may be between 2007 and 2010, there is no reason for a vendor to implement this stuff. Why Gnome guys are doing this right now, as fast as they can, is because it&#8217;s paid work, no need to find other reasons. 2) if and when those new file formats are widely adopted, it&#8217;s a given that competing Office suites will want to implement it as well otherwise they&#8217;ll lose customers. But, as I alluded to a while ago in a comment on this blog, there are two different implementations possible : one favors Microsoft, it&#8217;s what Gnumeric is doing, the data structure is modelled around Microsoft Excel file format, therefore Gnumeric is just a (bad) clone and will always lose on the market. The other implementation considers a superset data structure, a flexible Office document format model, flexible enough so that Microsoft Office 2007 formats are just a simple subset and can be supported without much fanfare. I think this data structure is ODF plus extensions because, unlike Microsoft&#8217;s, it&#8217;s based on other standards rather than reinventing the wheel at every turn. The latter implementation is the one that should be favored.</p>
<p>It will be interesting to see, in Microsoft Office 2009, what will be the changes in the file formats in the following areas :<br />
- integration points with other Microsoft products, like Sharepoint<br />
- integration points with Live services (is Office Live workspace exclusive to Office 2007 for instance?)<br />
- layout semantics and WPF/Vista. Will Office 2009 directly depend (or indirectly be optimized) on Microsoft&#8217;s latest operating system APIs ?</p>
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		<title>By: Yuhong Bao</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2007/12/21/intraoperability-inoperability-ooxml/comment-page-1/#comment-4394</link>
		<dc:creator>Yuhong Bao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 04:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The third one is probably not practical. But the others can and should be done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The third one is probably not practical. But the others can and should be done.</p>
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