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	<title>Comments on: Uh Oh! Microsoft Already Supports OpenDocument Format?</title>
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	<description>Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those threatened by software freedom</description>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/01/18/microsoft-sorta-supports-odf/comment-page-3/#comment-14892</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 14:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great effort to gett all this</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great effort to gett all this</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/01/18/microsoft-sorta-supports-odf/comment-page-2/#comment-8290</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 09:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think they tried the same tactic with Internet Explorer, by extending the technology beyond the defined standards for better integration with windows, and which is why Internet Explorer is STILL broken!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think they tried the same tactic with Internet Explorer, by extending the technology beyond the defined standards for better integration with windows, and which is why Internet Explorer is STILL broken!</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/01/18/microsoft-sorta-supports-odf/comment-page-2/#comment-5020</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 03:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ulric,

I think that the point you somehow missed is that if you strip down all the deprecated and additional bits in OOXML, then all your are left with is a more fundamental structure of a document. This already exists and it&#039;s the international standard we know as ODF. What Microsoft has done here is akin to replacing a white car with a vanilla white car. This harms uniformity and it is only built to accommodate the needs of one single application. Why, for example, would Microsoft create DirectX to &#039;replace&#039; OpenGL (they are no longer participating)? It is a similar situation. It creates fragmentation and increases workload for GPU engineers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ulric,</p>
<p>I think that the point you somehow missed is that if you strip down all the deprecated and additional bits in OOXML, then all your are left with is a more fundamental structure of a document. This already exists and it&#8217;s the international standard we know as ODF. What Microsoft has done here is akin to replacing a white car with a vanilla white car. This harms uniformity and it is only built to accommodate the needs of one single application. Why, for example, would Microsoft create DirectX to &#8216;replace&#8217; OpenGL (they are no longer participating)? It is a similar situation. It creates fragmentation and increases workload for GPU engineers.</p>
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		<title>By: ulric</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/01/18/microsoft-sorta-supports-odf/comment-page-2/#comment-5019</link>
		<dc:creator>ulric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 03:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re totally wrong about this, you misunderstand the use of words &#039;deprecated&#039; and &#039;extensions&#039;.

If Microsoft support ODF as its native format (which is what your blog post is about, since it supports it already through an open-source plug-in Microsoft sponsorts http://odf-converter.sourceforge.net/ )  it would use ODF, and store anything that isn&#039;t defined in the spec in MS-specific _extensions_.  _Proprietary blocks_.  Anything that you can create in Office 2007 that isn&#039;t in the ODF spec would be in these blocks.

The _deprecated_ blocks in OOXML, are for features from OLD VERSIONS that you can NO LONGER CREATE in new documents.  That&#039;s why they are DEPRECATED in OOXML.  It&#039;s to tell other apps to not bother reading/creating these blocks, they are only for backward compatibility with the old .doc format.

A Native implementation of ODF in Office 2007 would contain extensions for things that are BOTH deprecated and NOT-deprecated.  So it would be less specified than OOXML</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re totally wrong about this, you misunderstand the use of words &#8216;deprecated&#8217; and &#8216;extensions&#8217;.</p>
<p>If Microsoft support ODF as its native format (which is what your blog post is about, since it supports it already through an open-source plug-in Microsoft sponsorts <a href="http://odf-converter.sourceforge.net/" rel="nofollow">http://odf-converter.sourceforge.net/</a> )  it would use ODF, and store anything that isn&#8217;t defined in the spec in MS-specific _extensions_.  _Proprietary blocks_.  Anything that you can create in Office 2007 that isn&#8217;t in the ODF spec would be in these blocks.</p>
<p>The _deprecated_ blocks in OOXML, are for features from OLD VERSIONS that you can NO LONGER CREATE in new documents.  That&#8217;s why they are DEPRECATED in OOXML.  It&#8217;s to tell other apps to not bother reading/creating these blocks, they are only for backward compatibility with the old .doc format.</p>
<p>A Native implementation of ODF in Office 2007 would contain extensions for things that are BOTH deprecated and NOT-deprecated.  So it would be less specified than OOXML</p>
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		<title>By: Nephersir7</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/01/18/microsoft-sorta-supports-odf/comment-page-2/#comment-5017</link>
		<dc:creator>Nephersir7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 20:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Opensource FTW! We should only have to pay for hardware. Microsoft is sinking!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Opensource FTW! We should only have to pay for hardware. Microsoft is sinking!</p>
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		<title>By: BuBLe_GuN</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/01/18/microsoft-sorta-supports-odf/comment-page-2/#comment-5015</link>
		<dc:creator>BuBLe_GuN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 19:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes!!! Linux FOREVER!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes!!! Linux FOREVER!!!</p>
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		<title>By: AntiWindows</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/01/18/microsoft-sorta-supports-odf/comment-page-1/#comment-5014</link>
		<dc:creator>AntiWindows</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 17:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s very good and great. Microsoft sucks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s very good and great. Microsoft sucks.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/01/18/microsoft-sorta-supports-odf/comment-page-1/#comment-5010</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 05:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nevermind, I skimmed through the text too fast. Shouldn&#039;t read and comment on stuff at 6 in the morning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nevermind, I skimmed through the text too fast. Shouldn&#8217;t read and comment on stuff at 6 in the morning.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/01/18/microsoft-sorta-supports-odf/comment-page-1/#comment-5009</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 05:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are you on about exactly? Of course Microsoft supports their own standard. It&#039;d be crazy if they didn&#039;t. OOXML has been in use since the introduction of Microsoft Office 2007 (in form of .DOCX and the like).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are you on about exactly? Of course Microsoft supports their own standard. It&#8217;d be crazy if they didn&#8217;t. OOXML has been in use since the introduction of Microsoft Office 2007 (in form of .DOCX and the like).</p>
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		<title>By: Amit</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/01/18/microsoft-sorta-supports-odf/comment-page-1/#comment-5007</link>
		<dc:creator>Amit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 03:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great post !


bookmarked @ http://livbit.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great post !</p>
<p>bookmarked @ <a href="http://livbit.com" rel="nofollow">http://livbit.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: peter frank</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/01/18/microsoft-sorta-supports-odf/comment-page-1/#comment-5004</link>
		<dc:creator>peter frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 00:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow, everybody is taking this  open document and open source stuff, i found a blog thats its all nonsense,  http://www.opentopix.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow, everybody is taking this  open document and open source stuff, i found a blog thats its all nonsense,  <a href="http://www.opentopix.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.opentopix.com</a></p>
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