Comments on: Silverlight and Mono = DRM and Software Patents http://techrights.org/2008/02/21/silverlight-and-mono-drm-ipr/ Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those threatened by software freedom Tue, 07 Feb 2012 14:00:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: jo Shields http://techrights.org/2008/02/21/silverlight-and-mono-drm-ipr/comment-page-3/#comment-48562 jo Shields Sat, 13 Dec 2008 21:06:46 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/02/21/silverlight-and-mono-drm-ipr/#comment-48562 Moonlight 1.0 doesn't use Mono in any way, shape, or form. But I know how much you hate reality. The odf-converter, an obsolete plugin to allow Windows users to work with ODF rather than OOXML, uses bundled Mono - meaning it's essentially no different from a user perspective to a C-based app. Using Mono is a programmer convenience. It doesn't "spread" Mono any more than a static app "spreading" libc6. But I know how much you hate reality. And more to the point, do you even know whether this "OOXML SDK" *works* on Mono? It may well be full of Windows-only P/Invokes. Making it useless to non-Windows platforms and Mono users alike. Moonlight 1.0 doesn’t use Mono in any way, shape, or form. But I know how much you hate reality.

The odf-converter, an obsolete plugin to allow Windows users to work with ODF rather than OOXML, uses bundled Mono – meaning it’s essentially no different from a user perspective to a C-based app. Using Mono is a programmer convenience. It doesn’t “spread” Mono any more than a static app “spreading” libc6. But I know how much you hate reality.

And more to the point, do you even know whether this “OOXML SDK” *works* on Mono? It may well be full of Windows-only P/Invokes. Making it useless to non-Windows platforms and Mono users alike.

]]> By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2008/02/21/silverlight-and-mono-drm-ipr/comment-page-2/#comment-48559 Roy Schestowitz Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:57:10 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/02/21/silverlight-and-mono-drm-ipr/#comment-48559 You are missing the point entirely. Novell uses projects like these to spread Mono. The converter is one example, another being Moonlight You are missing the point entirely. Novell uses projects like these to spread Mono. The converter is one example, another being Moonlight

]]> By: jo Shields http://techrights.org/2008/02/21/silverlight-and-mono-drm-ipr/comment-page-2/#comment-48557 jo Shields Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:54:07 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/02/21/silverlight-and-mono-drm-ipr/#comment-48557 <b>THERE ISN'T ONE</b> You're seriously claiming that writing a library in a language counts as an insidious black mark? I heard people write trojans and rootkits in C. Obviously GCC's support for rootkits should be investigated. You really do make yourself out to be a complete fruitcake sometimes, Roy THERE ISN’T ONE

You’re seriously claiming that writing a library in a language counts as an insidious black mark?

I heard people write trojans and rootkits in C. Obviously GCC’s support for rootkits should be investigated.

You really do make yourself out to be a complete fruitcake sometimes, Roy

]]> By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2008/02/21/silverlight-and-mono-drm-ipr/comment-page-2/#comment-48555 Roy Schestowitz Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:50:09 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/02/21/silverlight-and-mono-drm-ipr/#comment-48555 The Mono-OOXML connection. The Mono-OOXML connection.

]]> By: jo Shields http://techrights.org/2008/02/21/silverlight-and-mono-drm-ipr/comment-page-2/#comment-48552 jo Shields Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:41:31 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/02/21/silverlight-and-mono-drm-ipr/#comment-48552 What am I dodging, exactly? What am I dodging, exactly?

]]> By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2008/02/21/silverlight-and-mono-drm-ipr/comment-page-2/#comment-48548 Roy Schestowitz Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:36:56 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/02/21/silverlight-and-mono-drm-ipr/#comment-48548 No, you're dodging the Mono thing. I haven't yet addressed your second question. No, you’re dodging the Mono thing. I haven’t yet addressed your second question.

]]> By: jo Shields http://techrights.org/2008/02/21/silverlight-and-mono-drm-ipr/comment-page-1/#comment-48546 jo Shields Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:33:23 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/02/21/silverlight-and-mono-drm-ipr/#comment-48546 Apology? Huh? You're still talking shit! You're asserting that adding ODF support to MSOffice is "OOXML support"? Apology? Huh? You’re still talking shit!

You’re asserting that adding ODF support to MSOffice is “OOXML support”?

]]> By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2008/02/21/silverlight-and-mono-drm-ipr/comment-page-1/#comment-48542 Roy Schestowitz Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:23:14 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/02/21/silverlight-and-mono-drm-ipr/#comment-48542 Oh boy! How the goalposts have moved. You totally changed the subject after being proven wrong. Can I please have my apology? Oh boy!

How the goalposts have moved.

You totally changed the subject after being proven wrong. Can I please have my apology?

]]> By: jo Shields http://techrights.org/2008/02/21/silverlight-and-mono-drm-ipr/comment-page-1/#comment-48538 jo Shields Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:12:09 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/02/21/silverlight-and-mono-drm-ipr/#comment-48538 odf-converter is a plugin for Microsoft Office, to output ODF files. It's nowhere near as useful as Sun's equivalent - and it remains to be seen what Microsoft's support in Office 2K7SP2 will be like. Third parties who want to verify that can read http://odf-converter.sourceforge.net/ By "Novell’s support for OOXML" what you actually mean is "Novell’s support for ODF". No, wait, sorry. The REALITY is "Novell’s support for ODF", you definitely MEANT to lie odf-converter is a plugin for Microsoft Office, to output ODF files. It’s nowhere near as useful as Sun’s equivalent – and it remains to be seen what Microsoft’s support in Office 2K7SP2 will be like. Third parties who want to verify that can read http://odf-converter.sourceforge.net/

By “Novell’s support for OOXML” what you actually mean is “Novell’s support for ODF”. No, wait, sorry. The REALITY is “Novell’s support for ODF”, you definitely MEANT to lie

]]> By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2008/02/21/silverlight-and-mono-drm-ipr/comment-page-1/#comment-48534 Roy Schestowitz Sat, 13 Dec 2008 19:53:14 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/02/21/silverlight-and-mono-drm-ipr/#comment-48534 Please stop making accusations. http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-OdfConverter-p15020575.html "<em>Novell builds odf-converter using Mono, and distributes it as a so-called bundled executable (platform-specific executable that includes the Mono runtime, i.e. not a platform-independent managed .NET executable) for Linux and Windows.</em>" Please stop making accusations.

http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-OdfConverter-p15020575.html

“Novell builds odf-converter using Mono, and distributes it as a so-called bundled executable (platform-specific executable that includes the Mono runtime, i.e. not a platform-independent managed .NET executable) for Linux and Windows.“

]]> By: jo Shields http://techrights.org/2008/02/21/silverlight-and-mono-drm-ipr/comment-page-1/#comment-48529 jo Shields Sat, 13 Dec 2008 18:09:05 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/02/21/silverlight-and-mono-drm-ipr/#comment-48529 Hey, an old post. With old lies. "Remember that Novell’s support for OOXML is done using Mono" is simply a lie. Roy lying? Shock horror! Hey, an old post. With old lies. “Remember that Novell’s support for OOXML is done using Mono” is simply a lie. Roy lying? Shock horror!

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