<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Microsoft Must Be Absolutely Terrified</title>
	<atom:link href="http://techrights.org/2008/02/22/microsoft-absolutely-terrified/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://techrights.org/2008/02/22/microsoft-absolutely-terrified/</link>
	<description>Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those threatened by software freedom</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 14:00:35 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/02/22/microsoft-absolutely-terrified/comment-page-7/#comment-6272</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 05:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boycottnovell.com/2008/02/22/microsoft-absolutely-terrified/#comment-6272</guid>
		<description>I was thinking less about the Darwin team and more about Apple&#039;s customers, many of whom are UNIX admins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was thinking less about the Darwin team and more about Apple&#8217;s customers, many of whom are UNIX admins.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Yuhong Bao</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/02/22/microsoft-absolutely-terrified/comment-page-7/#comment-6271</link>
		<dc:creator>Yuhong Bao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 04:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boycottnovell.com/2008/02/22/microsoft-absolutely-terrified/#comment-6271</guid>
		<description>&gt;I suppose the UNIXy crowd in Apple is why the company has to be nice to Linux.
Unfortunately, as I said, I doubt the Darwin team can do anything about the non-openness of the iPod or the iPhone. Keep in mind that I think that the Darwin part is along the other &quot;enterprise products&quot; part of Apple that probably have only a little bit of influence over Apple compared to the consumer-oriented part of Apple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;I suppose the UNIXy crowd in Apple is why the company has to be nice to Linux.<br />
Unfortunately, as I said, I doubt the Darwin team can do anything about the non-openness of the iPod or the iPhone. Keep in mind that I think that the Darwin part is along the other &#8220;enterprise products&#8221; part of Apple that probably have only a little bit of influence over Apple compared to the consumer-oriented part of Apple.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/02/22/microsoft-absolutely-terrified/comment-page-6/#comment-6270</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 03:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boycottnovell.com/2008/02/22/microsoft-absolutely-terrified/#comment-6270</guid>
		<description>Then again, Microsoft used BSD-licensed code as well. I suppose the UNIXy crowd in Apple is why the company has to be nice to  Linux.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then again, Microsoft used BSD-licensed code as well. I suppose the UNIXy crowd in Apple is why the company has to be nice to  Linux.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Yuhong Bao</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/02/22/microsoft-absolutely-terrified/comment-page-6/#comment-6269</link>
		<dc:creator>Yuhong Bao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 03:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boycottnovell.com/2008/02/22/microsoft-absolutely-terrified/#comment-6269</guid>
		<description>&gt;Apple is not a Linux antagonist as aggressive as Microsoft (and to an extent Intel as well).
Especially because some part of Mac OS X is open source as part of Darwin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;Apple is not a Linux antagonist as aggressive as Microsoft (and to an extent Intel as well).<br />
Especially because some part of Mac OS X is open source as part of Darwin.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/02/22/microsoft-absolutely-terrified/comment-page-6/#comment-6268</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 03:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boycottnovell.com/2008/02/22/microsoft-absolutely-terrified/#comment-6268</guid>
		<description>Be aware that Apple can hardly ever grow a very big monopoly, primarily because of upgrade cycles, weight and other factors. Apple can do extraordinarily well in more wealthy countries, but it&#039;s a different story in poorer nations that will never approach Vista (or higher). Unless, of course, Apple decided to open up to any x86-based machine (as opposed to opening up and freeing more code)...

The iPod is a different story altogether.

Bear in mind that Woz hates open source, but anyway, let&#039;s deal with Wintel first. Apple is not a Linux antagonist as aggressive as Microsoft (and to an extent Intel as well).

Google continues to weaken Microsoft. From the news:

Google Goes After Another Microsoft Cash Cow

&quot;&lt;em&gt;The Internet search giant on Wednesday is rolling out a rival to Microsoft’s SharePoint, a program used for collaboration among teams of workers. Google’s program, called Google Sites, will become part of the company’s applications suite, which includes e-mail, calendar, word processing, spreadsheet and presentation software. Like other elements of Google Apps, it will be free and require no installation, maintenance or upgrades.&lt;/em&gt;&quot;

http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/02/27/google-goes-after-another-microsoft-cash-cow/?ref=technology

I sometimes wonder if Google make Microsoft more nervous than Linux and the GPL do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Be aware that Apple can hardly ever grow a very big monopoly, primarily because of upgrade cycles, weight and other factors. Apple can do extraordinarily well in more wealthy countries, but it&#8217;s a different story in poorer nations that will never approach Vista (or higher). Unless, of course, Apple decided to open up to any x86-based machine (as opposed to opening up and freeing more code)&#8230;</p>
<p>The iPod is a different story altogether.</p>
<p>Bear in mind that Woz hates open source, but anyway, let&#8217;s deal with Wintel first. Apple is not a Linux antagonist as aggressive as Microsoft (and to an extent Intel as well).</p>
<p>Google continues to weaken Microsoft. From the news:</p>
<p>Google Goes After Another Microsoft Cash Cow</p>
<p>&#8220;<em>The Internet search giant on Wednesday is rolling out a rival to Microsoft’s SharePoint, a program used for collaboration among teams of workers. Google’s program, called Google Sites, will become part of the company’s applications suite, which includes e-mail, calendar, word processing, spreadsheet and presentation software. Like other elements of Google Apps, it will be free and require no installation, maintenance or upgrades.</em>&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/02/27/google-goes-after-another-microsoft-cash-cow/?ref=technology" rel="nofollow">http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/02/27/google-goes-after-another-microsoft-cash-cow/?ref=technology</a></p>
<p>I sometimes wonder if Google make Microsoft more nervous than Linux and the GPL do.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Yuhong Bao</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/02/22/microsoft-absolutely-terrified/comment-page-6/#comment-6267</link>
		<dc:creator>Yuhong Bao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 03:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boycottnovell.com/2008/02/22/microsoft-absolutely-terrified/#comment-6267</guid>
		<description>&gt;Apple is worse than Microsoft in some attitudinal ways. There is also the hardware monopoly.
And unfortunately I doubt that the open source part of Apple can do much about it. It is one of the part of Apple that don&#039;t have much influence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;Apple is worse than Microsoft in some attitudinal ways. There is also the hardware monopoly.<br />
And unfortunately I doubt that the open source part of Apple can do much about it. It is one of the part of Apple that don&#8217;t have much influence.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/02/22/microsoft-absolutely-terrified/comment-page-6/#comment-6266</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 02:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boycottnovell.com/2008/02/22/microsoft-absolutely-terrified/#comment-6266</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
Also, it may be worth thinking about the consequences of Microsoft’s death, or at least the immediate benefits. How many users would just switch to Apple?
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes, I worry about this too because (objectively speaking) Apple is worse than Microsoft in some attitudinal ways. There is also the hardware monopoly.


Yuhong Bao,

Windows Vista lacks modularity, so going open source might not help much. It&#039;s a very different story with the underlying structure of Mac OS X. Closed-source software is developed differently and that&#039;s why Apple threw away a lot of OS 9 code, just as Palm ditches Palm OS. We shall see what happens with Symbian in the long run because Linux is expected to grow significantly in the area, whereas Windows Mobile barely ever gained (lost $billions each years and its long time Head jumped ships 3 weeks ago to join Vodafone)..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>
Also, it may be worth thinking about the consequences of Microsoft’s death, or at least the immediate benefits. How many users would just switch to Apple?
</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, I worry about this too because (objectively speaking) Apple is worse than Microsoft in some attitudinal ways. There is also the hardware monopoly.</p>
<p>Yuhong Bao,</p>
<p>Windows Vista lacks modularity, so going open source might not help much. It&#8217;s a very different story with the underlying structure of Mac OS X. Closed-source software is developed differently and that&#8217;s why Apple threw away a lot of OS 9 code, just as Palm ditches Palm OS. We shall see what happens with Symbian in the long run because Linux is expected to grow significantly in the area, whereas Windows Mobile barely ever gained (lost $billions each years and its long time Head jumped ships 3 weeks ago to join Vodafone)..</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Yuhong Bao</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/02/22/microsoft-absolutely-terrified/comment-page-5/#comment-6264</link>
		<dc:creator>Yuhong Bao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 02:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boycottnovell.com/2008/02/22/microsoft-absolutely-terrified/#comment-6264</guid>
		<description>On that matter, I hope that Windows will be open sourced instead of the source code just thrown away. Windows is a good OS and many people depend on it, even if the company owning it is doing unethical things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On that matter, I hope that Windows will be open sourced instead of the source code just thrown away. Windows is a good OS and many people depend on it, even if the company owning it is doing unethical things.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: libervisco</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/02/22/microsoft-absolutely-terrified/comment-page-5/#comment-6263</link>
		<dc:creator>libervisco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 00:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boycottnovell.com/2008/02/22/microsoft-absolutely-terrified/#comment-6263</guid>
		<description>@CoolGuy

There is actually a movement towards using the term &quot;Freedomware&quot; instead of &quot;Free Software&quot;, &quot;Open Source&quot; or indeed as you suggest &quot;Freedom Software&quot;. &quot;Freedomware&quot; already is a catchy short hand for &quot;Freedom Software&quot;. There is an organization, GNU/Linux Matters, dedicated to Freedomware Marketing which is to adopt the term soon (I&#039;m actually its member) and some others would likely follow.

The term has also been used for Freedomware Gamefest which is nearing its completion: http://www.freedomware-gamefest.com

---

About the &quot;death spiral&quot; of Microsoft, there is a theory that they might as well survive, but as they&#039;ve already begun, increasingly focus on hardware appliances and internet services which need good interoperability support on any operating system to be fully successful, not just Windows. They might, as they go down this path, even start genuinely adopting and supporting Freedomware.

Also, it may be worth thinking about the consequences of Microsoft&#039;s death, or at least the immediate benefits. How many users would just switch to Apple? How many would for quite a while still keep using the old Windows? In essence, the question is, how many people would really become free of restricted or illegal bad software? The greater thing we could hope for is for MS to start supporting Freedomware than to just roll over and die.

We have to note that Microsoft is certainly not alone among the companies disrespectful towards individual&#039;s digital freedoms. Take adobe with their flash monopoly and the market grip they have with their *proprietary* productivity applications. Or look at Apple - they might as well be the next biggest threat to the continued progress of Freedomware. They are a vital, yet very closed-culture company with an immense power of market deception. They might be having the most powerful marketing machine on Earth due to their shiny product designs, catchy and trendy messages and slogans etc.

To an average consumer, Apple could be an epitome of modern lifestyle - and the horror in this is that this life style does not include full individual freedom but *independence on Apple*.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@CoolGuy</p>
<p>There is actually a movement towards using the term &#8220;Freedomware&#8221; instead of &#8220;Free Software&#8221;, &#8220;Open Source&#8221; or indeed as you suggest &#8220;Freedom Software&#8221;. &#8220;Freedomware&#8221; already is a catchy short hand for &#8220;Freedom Software&#8221;. There is an organization, GNU/Linux Matters, dedicated to Freedomware Marketing which is to adopt the term soon (I&#8217;m actually its member) and some others would likely follow.</p>
<p>The term has also been used for Freedomware Gamefest which is nearing its completion: <a href="http://www.freedomware-gamefest.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.freedomware-gamefest.com</a></p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p>About the &#8220;death spiral&#8221; of Microsoft, there is a theory that they might as well survive, but as they&#8217;ve already begun, increasingly focus on hardware appliances and internet services which need good interoperability support on any operating system to be fully successful, not just Windows. They might, as they go down this path, even start genuinely adopting and supporting Freedomware.</p>
<p>Also, it may be worth thinking about the consequences of Microsoft&#8217;s death, or at least the immediate benefits. How many users would just switch to Apple? How many would for quite a while still keep using the old Windows? In essence, the question is, how many people would really become free of restricted or illegal bad software? The greater thing we could hope for is for MS to start supporting Freedomware than to just roll over and die.</p>
<p>We have to note that Microsoft is certainly not alone among the companies disrespectful towards individual&#8217;s digital freedoms. Take adobe with their flash monopoly and the market grip they have with their *proprietary* productivity applications. Or look at Apple &#8211; they might as well be the next biggest threat to the continued progress of Freedomware. They are a vital, yet very closed-culture company with an immense power of market deception. They might be having the most powerful marketing machine on Earth due to their shiny product designs, catchy and trendy messages and slogans etc.</p>
<p>To an average consumer, Apple could be an epitome of modern lifestyle &#8211; and the horror in this is that this life style does not include full individual freedom but *independence on Apple*.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: beeman</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/02/22/microsoft-absolutely-terrified/comment-page-5/#comment-6262</link>
		<dc:creator>beeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boycottnovell.com/2008/02/22/microsoft-absolutely-terrified/#comment-6262</guid>
		<description>Very nice list Roy... :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice list Roy&#8230; <img src='http://techrights.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/02/22/microsoft-absolutely-terrified/comment-page-5/#comment-6158</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 18:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boycottnovell.com/2008/02/22/microsoft-absolutely-terrified/#comment-6158</guid>
		<description>True, but let&#039;s solve one problem at the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True, but let&#8217;s solve one problem at the time.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Yuhong Bao</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/02/22/microsoft-absolutely-terrified/comment-page-5/#comment-6156</link>
		<dc:creator>Yuhong Bao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 17:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boycottnovell.com/2008/02/22/microsoft-absolutely-terrified/#comment-6156</guid>
		<description>And Microsoft is not the only vendor that loves EULAs, in fact all non-free software vendors have EULAs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Microsoft is not the only vendor that loves EULAs, in fact all non-free software vendors have EULAs.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/02/22/microsoft-absolutely-terrified/comment-page-4/#comment-6141</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 04:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boycottnovell.com/2008/02/22/microsoft-absolutely-terrified/#comment-6141</guid>
		<description>Hey Ken,

I actually spread the word about this in USENET just a couple of hours ago and I&#039;ll go further with this later on today, including here. :-)

Good name by the way. I see that you chose to focus on the EULA and on freedom (not cost), which is precisely what one should do. Here are some contextual links of interest that I accumulated for this. You might find them handy.


&lt;font size=&quot;1&quot;&gt;

EULA: What Are You Signing Away?

,----[ Quote ]
&#124; EULAs are not negotiated or negotiable, they are rarely read, and they are 
&#124; frequently difficult to obtain, said Rasch. &quot;I just bought an iPhone and 
&#124; couldn&#039;t even see the TOS until I opened the box, synched the iPhone and then 
&#124; agreed to the TOS -- and had to pay a restocking fee and activation fee if I 
&#124; disagreed,&quot; Rasch commented.    
`----

http://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/58451.html


Unusable EULA&#039;s

,----[ Quote ]
&#124; Microsoft&#039;s instant messenger app had a surprisingly readable EULA,
&#124; but was a snooze-inducing 12 pages and 6,343 words long. 
`----

http://www.usabilityblog.com/blog/archives/2007/03/unusable_eulas.php


MSN AdCenter - Impossible to read TOS

,----[ Quote ]
&#124; As you can see from the screenshot above (click it to enlarge), the
&#124; MSN AdCenter TOS is enclosed in a small box, approximately 1-inch
&#124; wide by about 1/2-inch tall! Maybe it&#039;s because I was using Firefox
&#124; and not Microsoft&#039;s Internet Explorer, but I still find it comical to
&#124; the point of absurdity. I still signed up, but I wonder what Microsoft
&#124; is hiding in that tiny box?
`----

http://grownupgeek.blogspot.com/2007/01/msn-adcenter-impossible-to-read-tos.html


Windows Vista&#039;s new spin on licensing

,----[ Quote ]
&#124; As with corporate software licenses, the primary end goal here seems
&#124; to be to maximize revenues for Microsoft, but MS&#039;s moves have the
&#124; unfortunate secondary effect of eroding the consumer&#039;s fair-use rights
&#124; --or at least the very useful illusion of fair-use rights--in the
&#124; process.
`----

http://techreport.com/etc/2007q1/vista-licensing/index.x?pg=1reve


Vista&#039;s legal fine print raises red flags

,----[ Quote ]
&#124; For greater certainty, the terms and conditions remove any doubt about who 
&#124; is in control by providing that &quot;this agreement only gives you some rights 
&#124; to use the software. Microsoft reserves all other rights.&quot;
&#124;
&#124; [...]
&#124;
&#124; When Microsoft introduced Windows 95 more than a decade ago, it adopted the 
&#124; Rolling Stones &quot;Start Me Up&quot; as its theme song. As millions of consumers 
&#124; contemplate the company&#039;s latest upgrade, the legal and technological 
&#124; restrictions may leave them singing &quot;You Can&#039;t Always Get What You Want.&quot;
`----

http://www.thestar.com/Business/article/175801


A sneaky change in Windows licensing terms

,----[ Quote ]
&#124; With a retail version of Windows XP, there are no restrictions on the
&#124; number of times you can transfer the software from one computer to another
&#124; in your household or office. That&#039;s about to change for the worse in
&#124; Vista, with only one lifetime transfer allowed. It makes the outrageous
&#124; price difference between retail and OEM copies even more difficult
&#124; to justify.
`----

http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=156


Microsoft flip-flops on Vista virtualization

,----[ Quote ]
&#124; Software like Parallels Desktop for the Mac or Microsoft&#039;s own Virtual 
&#124; PC for Windows allow multiple operating systems to run simultaneously. 
&#124; When it announced licensing rules for Vista last year, Microsoft said 
&#124; that only Vista Business and Vista Ultimate could run as guest 
&#124; operating systems. The company said virtualization presents inherent 
&#124; security risks and that it hoped by limiting which versions of the OS 
&#124; could act as virtual machines, only sophisticated users and businesses 
&#124; would employ the tactic.
`----

http://news.zdnet.com/2100-3513_22-6191787.html


Microsoft is bad for business

,----[ Quote ]
&#124; I recently read an article regarding the copy protection methods of 
&#124; Microsoft&#039;s next Operating system, Vista. And my jaw literally dropped to 
&#124; the floor.
&#124; 
&#124; Microsoft is, in essence, a control freak. 
&#124; 
&#124; [...]
&#124; 
&#124; Microsoft is bad for business because they take this level of
&#124; annoyance to the highest level in Windows Vista. 
&#124; 
&#124; [...]
&#124; 
&#124; Microsoft, hear what your customers are saying. You&#039;re doing a lot of
&#124; things wrong lately. You&#039;re making the wrong choices in your business
&#124; decisions. Other available operating systems are staking a claim at
&#124; your dominance of the market. What will you do next?
`----

http://techstuff.goboardz.com/forum_topic.asp?ID=1102


Vista&#039;s EULA Product Activation Worries

,----[ Quote ]
&#124; Mark Rasch looks at the license agreement for Windows Vista and how its 
&#124; product activation component, which can disable operation of the computer, 
&#124; may be like walking on thin ice.
&#124; 
&#124; [...]
&#124; 
&#124; &quot;Does the Microsoft EULA adequately tell you what will happen if you
&#124; don&#039;t activate the product or if you can&#039;t establish that it is
&#124; genuine? Well, not exactly. It does tell you that some parts of the
&#124; product won&#039;t work - but it also ambiguously says that the product
&#124; itself won&#039;t work. Moreover, it allows Microsoft, through fine print
&#124; in a generally unread and non negotiable agreement, to create an
&#124; opportunity for economic extortion.&quot;
`----

http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists/423


TechnoFile: Incomprehensible gobbledygook and you

,----[ Quote ]
&#124; Another fun tidbit: &quot;The software is licensed, not sold. This
&#124; agreement only gives you some rights to use the software.
&#124; Microsoft reserves all other rights.&quot; So you don&#039;t own your
&#124; operating system, Microsoft is just lending it to you. 
&#124; 
&#124; [...]
&#124; 
&#124; Compare these terms with Ubuntu, the Linux distribution I use:
&#124; &quot;You may modify your copy or copies of the Program or any portion of
&#124; it, thus forming a work based on the Program, and copy and distribute
&#124; such modifications or work.&quot; I&#039;m free to copy and change it as I please,
&#124; and then to give those changes to other people. I sincerely doubt
&#124; Microsoft will be issuing those terms anytime soon. 
`----

http://www.mcgilldaily.com/view.php?aid=5712


Tough new rules on Vista &quot;OEM&quot;

,----[ Quote 
&#124; This marks the death of the popular once-off &#039;I&#039;ll take one hard drive
&#124; and an OEM copy of Windows with that, thanks&#039; flavour of
&#124; OS-sundae.
&#124; 
&#124; Microsoft has also tightened up the specific rules around what
&#124; hardware an OEM copy of Windows can be sold with.
&#124; 
&#124; Straight from the horse&#039;s mouth -- &quot;spokesperson&quot; at Microsoft
&#124; Australia:
&#124; 
&#124; &quot;OEM versions of Windows Vista must be distributed to end-user
&#124; with a fully assembled computer system and must be pre-installed.&quot;
&#124;
&#124; Dang!
&#124;
&#124; To make the matter even more complex, Microsoft says that even with a 
&#124; &quot;transfer to a new PC as many times as you like&quot; retail edition, you will 
&#124; only be allowed to transfer your licence for Vista to someone else once. 
`----

http://apcmag.com/node/4347


Vista licensing also limits benchmarking

,----[ Quote ]
&#124; License transfers aren&#039;t the only thing the End User License Agreement
&#124; (EULA) for Microsoft Corp.&#039;s Windows Vista OS limits. The license
&#124; also puts restrictions on how benchmarks of certain components of
&#124; the OS can be published, another issue that is raising eyebrows as
&#124; Microsoft still has not clarified how changes will specifically
&#124; affect users.
&#124; 
&#124; According to the Vista EULA, because the OS contains &quot;one or more
&#124; components&quot; of the .Net Framework 3.0, users can conduct internal 
&#124; benchmarking of those components, but can&#039;t disclose the results
&#124; of those benchmarks -- or measurements to compare rival products
&#124; -- unless they comply with conditions found at a Microsoft Web
&#124; site. 
`----

http://www.itworld.com/Comp/2218/061101vistalicense/index.html


Vista EULA stirs up a storm

,----[ Quote ]
&#124; Is Microsoft trying to stop people from copying their icons?
&#124; The same icons that were stolen from the likes of varying
&#124; icon sets under Linux? Are they trying to keep the layout
&#124; or organization of their screens protected as an IP right?
&#124; I think that was done away with in the 90s when Apple sued
&#124; Microsoft over Windows and the judge said basically thats
&#124; ome things just can be copyrighted. Is Microsoft worried
&#124; that the Linux community might try to copy their structure
&#124; and implement it into various distibutions of Linux?
`----

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=35184


Vista EULA restricts display to one person

,----[ Quote ]
&#124; Paragraph 3C of the EULA states that while the software
&#124; is running, you can use but not share its icons, images,
&#124; sounds and media.
&#124;
&#124; If Microsoft means to word the EULA this way, that implies
&#124; you can&#039;t use projectors or linked video monitors if there&#039;s
&#124; more than one human being present.
&#124;
&#124; It also implies that you can&#039;t take a screen shot of the
&#124; Vista desktop.
`----

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=35108


Do Microsoft&#039;s EULAs have any real legal basis?

,----[ Quote ]
&#124; &quot;Microsoft has no special exemption from the sale of goods act.&quot; Well,
&#124; no, probably not - but it might still be selling you &quot;services&quot;
&#124; instead of &quot;goods&quot;. But the real point to remember is that it doesn&#039;t
&#124; matter a jot what the &quot;logical&quot; position is, it is what the courts
&#124; decide that matters.
&#124; 
&#124; As far as I know, no one has tested Microsoft&#039;s EULAs in a UK court
&#124; and, until someone does, Microsoft will just go on assuming that they
&#124; work. And I don&#039;t fancy the risk of taking on Microsoft&#039;s expensive
&#124; lawyers in court myself...
`----

http://www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2007/04/25/microsoft_eula/


Use Health Vault, Lose Your Rights

,----[ Quote ]
&#124; Microsoft has announced (NY Times Article) Health Vault. What should have 
&#124; followed here is a review of the service by my actually trying it.  
&#124; 
&#124; [...]
&#124; 
&#124; Heard enough? So had I. I&#039;m absolutely going to pass on Health Vault. In 
&#124; addition to looking like the Microsoft Passport debacle redux, this is a very 
&#124; one-sided contract. They can harm you but you cannot harm them. There is no 
&#124; way for any 3rd party to verify that their privacy and security software 
&#124; works.    
`----

http://www.linuxmednews.com/1191521272


HealthVault: No Commitments and a Sleeping Watchdog.

,----[ Quote ]
&#124; Has Microsoft committed to keeping the promises that it has already made? No, 
&#124; just the opposite. Their privacy policy concludes:“We may occasionally update 
&#124; this privacy statement”  
&#124; 
&#124; Which means that when the commitments that Microsoft has made regarding 
&#124; HealthVault become inconvenient, they will simply change them. 
`----

http://www.fredtrotter.com/2007/10/22/healthvault-no-commitments-and-a-sleeping-watchdog/

&lt;/font&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Ken,</p>
<p>I actually spread the word about this in USENET just a couple of hours ago and I&#8217;ll go further with this later on today, including here. <img src='http://techrights.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Good name by the way. I see that you chose to focus on the EULA and on freedom (not cost), which is precisely what one should do. Here are some contextual links of interest that I accumulated for this. You might find them handy.</p>
<p><font size="1"></p>
<p>EULA: What Are You Signing Away?</p>
<p>,&#8212;-[ Quote ]<br />
| EULAs are not negotiated or negotiable, they are rarely read, and they are<br />
| frequently difficult to obtain, said Rasch. &#8220;I just bought an iPhone and<br />
| couldn&#8217;t even see the TOS until I opened the box, synched the iPhone and then<br />
| agreed to the TOS &#8212; and had to pay a restocking fee and activation fee if I<br />
| disagreed,&#8221; Rasch commented.<br />
`&#8212;-</p>
<p><a href="http://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/58451.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/58451.html</a></p>
<p>Unusable EULA&#8217;s</p>
<p>,&#8212;-[ Quote ]<br />
| Microsoft&#8217;s instant messenger app had a surprisingly readable EULA,<br />
| but was a snooze-inducing 12 pages and 6,343 words long.<br />
`&#8212;-</p>
<p><a href="http://www.usabilityblog.com/blog/archives/2007/03/unusable_eulas.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.usabilityblog.com/blog/archives/2007/03/unusable_eulas.php</a></p>
<p>MSN AdCenter &#8211; Impossible to read TOS</p>
<p>,&#8212;-[ Quote ]<br />
| As you can see from the screenshot above (click it to enlarge), the<br />
| MSN AdCenter TOS is enclosed in a small box, approximately 1-inch<br />
| wide by about 1/2-inch tall! Maybe it&#8217;s because I was using Firefox<br />
| and not Microsoft&#8217;s Internet Explorer, but I still find it comical to<br />
| the point of absurdity. I still signed up, but I wonder what Microsoft<br />
| is hiding in that tiny box?<br />
`&#8212;-</p>
<p><a href="http://grownupgeek.blogspot.com/2007/01/msn-adcenter-impossible-to-read-tos.html" rel="nofollow">http://grownupgeek.blogspot.com/2007/01/msn-adcenter-impossible-to-read-tos.html</a></p>
<p>Windows Vista&#8217;s new spin on licensing</p>
<p>,&#8212;-[ Quote ]<br />
| As with corporate software licenses, the primary end goal here seems<br />
| to be to maximize revenues for Microsoft, but MS&#8217;s moves have the<br />
| unfortunate secondary effect of eroding the consumer&#8217;s fair-use rights<br />
| &#8211;or at least the very useful illusion of fair-use rights&#8211;in the<br />
| process.<br />
`&#8212;-</p>
<p><a href="http://techreport.com/etc/2007q1/vista-licensing/index.x?pg=1reve" rel="nofollow">http://techreport.com/etc/2007q1/vista-licensing/index.x?pg=1reve</a></p>
<p>Vista&#8217;s legal fine print raises red flags</p>
<p>,&#8212;-[ Quote ]<br />
| For greater certainty, the terms and conditions remove any doubt about who<br />
| is in control by providing that &#8220;this agreement only gives you some rights<br />
| to use the software. Microsoft reserves all other rights.&#8221;<br />
|<br />
| [...]<br />
|<br />
| When Microsoft introduced Windows 95 more than a decade ago, it adopted the<br />
| Rolling Stones &#8220;Start Me Up&#8221; as its theme song. As millions of consumers<br />
| contemplate the company&#8217;s latest upgrade, the legal and technological<br />
| restrictions may leave them singing &#8220;You Can&#8217;t Always Get What You Want.&#8221;<br />
`&#8212;-</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thestar.com/Business/article/175801" rel="nofollow">http://www.thestar.com/Business/article/175801</a></p>
<p>A sneaky change in Windows licensing terms</p>
<p>,&#8212;-[ Quote ]<br />
| With a retail version of Windows XP, there are no restrictions on the<br />
| number of times you can transfer the software from one computer to another<br />
| in your household or office. That&#8217;s about to change for the worse in<br />
| Vista, with only one lifetime transfer allowed. It makes the outrageous<br />
| price difference between retail and OEM copies even more difficult<br />
| to justify.<br />
`&#8212;-</p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=156" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=156</a></p>
<p>Microsoft flip-flops on Vista virtualization</p>
<p>,&#8212;-[ Quote ]<br />
| Software like Parallels Desktop for the Mac or Microsoft&#8217;s own Virtual<br />
| PC for Windows allow multiple operating systems to run simultaneously.<br />
| When it announced licensing rules for Vista last year, Microsoft said<br />
| that only Vista Business and Vista Ultimate could run as guest<br />
| operating systems. The company said virtualization presents inherent<br />
| security risks and that it hoped by limiting which versions of the OS<br />
| could act as virtual machines, only sophisticated users and businesses<br />
| would employ the tactic.<br />
`&#8212;-</p>
<p><a href="http://news.zdnet.com/2100-3513_22-6191787.html" rel="nofollow">http://news.zdnet.com/2100-3513_22-6191787.html</a></p>
<p>Microsoft is bad for business</p>
<p>,&#8212;-[ Quote ]<br />
| I recently read an article regarding the copy protection methods of<br />
| Microsoft&#8217;s next Operating system, Vista. And my jaw literally dropped to<br />
| the floor.<br />
|<br />
| Microsoft is, in essence, a control freak.<br />
|<br />
| [...]<br />
|<br />
| Microsoft is bad for business because they take this level of<br />
| annoyance to the highest level in Windows Vista.<br />
|<br />
| [...]<br />
|<br />
| Microsoft, hear what your customers are saying. You&#8217;re doing a lot of<br />
| things wrong lately. You&#8217;re making the wrong choices in your business<br />
| decisions. Other available operating systems are staking a claim at<br />
| your dominance of the market. What will you do next?<br />
`&#8212;-</p>
<p><a href="http://techstuff.goboardz.com/forum_topic.asp?ID=1102" rel="nofollow">http://techstuff.goboardz.com/forum_topic.asp?ID=1102</a></p>
<p>Vista&#8217;s EULA Product Activation Worries</p>
<p>,&#8212;-[ Quote ]<br />
| Mark Rasch looks at the license agreement for Windows Vista and how its<br />
| product activation component, which can disable operation of the computer,<br />
| may be like walking on thin ice.<br />
|<br />
| [...]<br />
|<br />
| &#8220;Does the Microsoft EULA adequately tell you what will happen if you<br />
| don&#8217;t activate the product or if you can&#8217;t establish that it is<br />
| genuine? Well, not exactly. It does tell you that some parts of the<br />
| product won&#8217;t work &#8211; but it also ambiguously says that the product<br />
| itself won&#8217;t work. Moreover, it allows Microsoft, through fine print<br />
| in a generally unread and non negotiable agreement, to create an<br />
| opportunity for economic extortion.&#8221;<br />
`&#8212;-</p>
<p><a href="http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists/423" rel="nofollow">http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists/423</a></p>
<p>TechnoFile: Incomprehensible gobbledygook and you</p>
<p>,&#8212;-[ Quote ]<br />
| Another fun tidbit: &#8220;The software is licensed, not sold. This<br />
| agreement only gives you some rights to use the software.<br />
| Microsoft reserves all other rights.&#8221; So you don&#8217;t own your<br />
| operating system, Microsoft is just lending it to you.<br />
|<br />
| [...]<br />
|<br />
| Compare these terms with Ubuntu, the Linux distribution I use:<br />
| &#8220;You may modify your copy or copies of the Program or any portion of<br />
| it, thus forming a work based on the Program, and copy and distribute<br />
| such modifications or work.&#8221; I&#8217;m free to copy and change it as I please,<br />
| and then to give those changes to other people. I sincerely doubt<br />
| Microsoft will be issuing those terms anytime soon.<br />
`&#8212;-</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mcgilldaily.com/view.php?aid=5712" rel="nofollow">http://www.mcgilldaily.com/view.php?aid=5712</a></p>
<p>Tough new rules on Vista &#8220;OEM&#8221;</p>
<p>,&#8212;-[ Quote<br />
| This marks the death of the popular once-off 'I'll take one hard drive<br />
| and an OEM copy of Windows with that, thanks' flavour of<br />
| OS-sundae.<br />
|<br />
| Microsoft has also tightened up the specific rules around what<br />
| hardware an OEM copy of Windows can be sold with.<br />
|<br />
| Straight from the horse's mouth -- "spokesperson" at Microsoft<br />
| Australia:<br />
|<br />
| "OEM versions of Windows Vista must be distributed to end-user<br />
| with a fully assembled computer system and must be pre-installed."<br />
|<br />
| Dang!<br />
|<br />
| To make the matter even more complex, Microsoft says that even with a<br />
| "transfer to a new PC as many times as you like" retail edition, you will<br />
| only be allowed to transfer your licence for Vista to someone else once.<br />
`----</p>
<p><a href="http://apcmag.com/node/4347" rel="nofollow">http://apcmag.com/node/4347</a></p>
<p>Vista licensing also limits benchmarking</p>
<p>,----[ Quote ]<br />
| License transfers aren&#8217;t the only thing the End User License Agreement<br />
| (EULA) for Microsoft Corp.&#8217;s Windows Vista OS limits. The license<br />
| also puts restrictions on how benchmarks of certain components of<br />
| the OS can be published, another issue that is raising eyebrows as<br />
| Microsoft still has not clarified how changes will specifically<br />
| affect users.<br />
|<br />
| According to the Vista EULA, because the OS contains &#8220;one or more<br />
| components&#8221; of the .Net Framework 3.0, users can conduct internal<br />
| benchmarking of those components, but can&#8217;t disclose the results<br />
| of those benchmarks &#8212; or measurements to compare rival products<br />
| &#8212; unless they comply with conditions found at a Microsoft Web<br />
| site.<br />
`&#8212;-</p>
<p><a href="http://www.itworld.com/Comp/2218/061101vistalicense/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.itworld.com/Comp/2218/061101vistalicense/index.html</a></p>
<p>Vista EULA stirs up a storm</p>
<p>,&#8212;-[ Quote ]<br />
| Is Microsoft trying to stop people from copying their icons?<br />
| The same icons that were stolen from the likes of varying<br />
| icon sets under Linux? Are they trying to keep the layout<br />
| or organization of their screens protected as an IP right?<br />
| I think that was done away with in the 90s when Apple sued<br />
| Microsoft over Windows and the judge said basically thats<br />
| ome things just can be copyrighted. Is Microsoft worried<br />
| that the Linux community might try to copy their structure<br />
| and implement it into various distibutions of Linux?<br />
`&#8212;-</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=35184" rel="nofollow">http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=35184</a></p>
<p>Vista EULA restricts display to one person</p>
<p>,&#8212;-[ Quote ]<br />
| Paragraph 3C of the EULA states that while the software<br />
| is running, you can use but not share its icons, images,<br />
| sounds and media.<br />
|<br />
| If Microsoft means to word the EULA this way, that implies<br />
| you can&#8217;t use projectors or linked video monitors if there&#8217;s<br />
| more than one human being present.<br />
|<br />
| It also implies that you can&#8217;t take a screen shot of the<br />
| Vista desktop.<br />
`&#8212;-</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=35108" rel="nofollow">http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=35108</a></p>
<p>Do Microsoft&#8217;s EULAs have any real legal basis?</p>
<p>,&#8212;-[ Quote ]<br />
| &#8220;Microsoft has no special exemption from the sale of goods act.&#8221; Well,<br />
| no, probably not &#8211; but it might still be selling you &#8220;services&#8221;<br />
| instead of &#8220;goods&#8221;. But the real point to remember is that it doesn&#8217;t<br />
| matter a jot what the &#8220;logical&#8221; position is, it is what the courts<br />
| decide that matters.<br />
|<br />
| As far as I know, no one has tested Microsoft&#8217;s EULAs in a UK court<br />
| and, until someone does, Microsoft will just go on assuming that they<br />
| work. And I don&#8217;t fancy the risk of taking on Microsoft&#8217;s expensive<br />
| lawyers in court myself&#8230;<br />
`&#8212;-</p>
<p><a href="http://www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2007/04/25/microsoft_eula/" rel="nofollow">http://www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2007/04/25/microsoft_eula/</a></p>
<p>Use Health Vault, Lose Your Rights</p>
<p>,&#8212;-[ Quote ]<br />
| Microsoft has announced (NY Times Article) Health Vault. What should have<br />
| followed here is a review of the service by my actually trying it.<br />
|<br />
| [...]<br />
|<br />
| Heard enough? So had I. I&#8217;m absolutely going to pass on Health Vault. In<br />
| addition to looking like the Microsoft Passport debacle redux, this is a very<br />
| one-sided contract. They can harm you but you cannot harm them. There is no<br />
| way for any 3rd party to verify that their privacy and security software<br />
| works.<br />
`&#8212;-</p>
<p><a href="http://www.linuxmednews.com/1191521272" rel="nofollow">http://www.linuxmednews.com/1191521272</a></p>
<p>HealthVault: No Commitments and a Sleeping Watchdog.</p>
<p>,&#8212;-[ Quote ]<br />
| Has Microsoft committed to keeping the promises that it has already made? No,<br />
| just the opposite. Their privacy policy concludes:“We may occasionally update<br />
| this privacy statement”<br />
|<br />
| Which means that when the commitments that Microsoft has made regarding<br />
| HealthVault become inconvenient, they will simply change them.<br />
`&#8212;-</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fredtrotter.com/2007/10/22/healthvault-no-commitments-and-a-sleeping-watchdog/" rel="nofollow">http://www.fredtrotter.com/2007/10/22/healthvault-no-commitments-and-a-sleeping-watchdog/</a></p>
<p></font></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: helios</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/02/22/microsoft-absolutely-terrified/comment-page-4/#comment-6140</link>
		<dc:creator>helios</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 03:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boycottnovell.com/2008/02/22/microsoft-absolutely-terrified/#comment-6140</guid>
		<description>Roy, &#039;

Will you help us perpetuate the death spiral?  We could use some bigger names helping us get the word out.

Ken

http://linuxlock.blogspot.com/2008/02/linependence-2008.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roy, &#8216;</p>
<p>Will you help us perpetuate the death spiral?  We could use some bigger names helping us get the word out.</p>
<p>Ken</p>
<p><a href="http://linuxlock.blogspot.com/2008/02/linependence-2008.html" rel="nofollow">http://linuxlock.blogspot.com/2008/02/linependence-2008.html</a></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/02/22/microsoft-absolutely-terrified/comment-page-4/#comment-5881</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 07:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boycottnovell.com/2008/02/22/microsoft-absolutely-terrified/#comment-5881</guid>
		<description>Yuhong,

Be aware that Microsoft would not sue Linux or Free software projects to accomplish this. It stated it would not do this (although no clear obligation was made).

Instead, Microsoft is likely to use third parties (proxies) like SCO to do the legwork. We have identified at least two large firms that comprise former Microsoft employees and expressed Linux disdain. They are only patent holders. That&#039;s all these firms really are. Yes, &#039;patent trolls&#039;.

One of them even sued Red Hat and Novell (over Linux). I doubt NetApp and Trend Micro are at all part of this, but Free software has more foes than just Microsoft. For more information about Microsoft&#039;s by-proxy lawsuits consider some of our many older posts:

Google, IBM, maybe even Apple make good examples of companies that are maybe be sued by Microsoft, by proxy. With Google it&#039;s pretty much a fact and with IBM there is just strong evidence (e.g. Microsoft&#039;s investment in SCO and BayStar&#039;s role, in addition to -- more recently -- the mainframes across Europe).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yuhong,</p>
<p>Be aware that Microsoft would not sue Linux or Free software projects to accomplish this. It stated it would not do this (although no clear obligation was made).</p>
<p>Instead, Microsoft is likely to use third parties (proxies) like SCO to do the legwork. We have identified at least two large firms that comprise former Microsoft employees and expressed Linux disdain. They are only patent holders. That&#8217;s all these firms really are. Yes, &#8216;patent trolls&#8217;.</p>
<p>One of them even sued Red Hat and Novell (over Linux). I doubt NetApp and Trend Micro are at all part of this, but Free software has more foes than just Microsoft. For more information about Microsoft&#8217;s by-proxy lawsuits consider some of our many older posts:</p>
<p>Google, IBM, maybe even Apple make good examples of companies that are maybe be sued by Microsoft, by proxy. With Google it&#8217;s pretty much a fact and with IBM there is just strong evidence (e.g. Microsoft&#8217;s investment in SCO and BayStar&#8217;s role, in addition to &#8212; more recently &#8212; the mainframes across Europe).</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Yuhong Bao</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/02/22/microsoft-absolutely-terrified/comment-page-4/#comment-5880</link>
		<dc:creator>Yuhong Bao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 07:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boycottnovell.com/2008/02/22/microsoft-absolutely-terrified/#comment-5880</guid>
		<description>I do hate the MS-Novell deal, yes, and the thing that I consider fatal to the deal is that it effectively can make Linux non-free software (and not just by fake threats, I mean by real patent lawsuits), removing one of the advantages and betraying the open source community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do hate the MS-Novell deal, yes, and the thing that I consider fatal to the deal is that it effectively can make Linux non-free software (and not just by fake threats, I mean by real patent lawsuits), removing one of the advantages and betraying the open source community.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Yuhong Bao</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/02/22/microsoft-absolutely-terrified/comment-page-4/#comment-5879</link>
		<dc:creator>Yuhong Bao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 07:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boycottnovell.com/2008/02/22/microsoft-absolutely-terrified/#comment-5879</guid>
		<description>&quot;You mean Longhorn and Vista? Despite the different names, those two are nearly identical in terms of their corpus. &quot;
Yep, I know that they are the same thing. I am talking about Windows vs Mac vs Linux.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You mean Longhorn and Vista? Despite the different names, those two are nearly identical in terms of their corpus. &#8221;<br />
Yep, I know that they are the same thing. I am talking about Windows vs Mac vs Linux.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Yuri</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/02/22/microsoft-absolutely-terrified/comment-page-3/#comment-5874</link>
		<dc:creator>Yuri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 02:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boycottnovell.com/2008/02/22/microsoft-absolutely-terrified/#comment-5874</guid>
		<description>&quot;In fact, I believe each OS have it&#039;s own advantages and disadvantages.&quot;

If it was as simple as that, sites like boycottnovell would not exist.  Many people using and promoting Microsoft are simply unaware of Microsoft&#039;s shameful business practices, but what excuse is there for those who are aware and yet pretend that it&#039;s just a matter of pros and cons of OS products?  I do not know whether you are aware, but just because corporations have no ethics does not mean that human beings should not have them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In fact, I believe each OS have it&#8217;s own advantages and disadvantages.&#8221;</p>
<p>If it was as simple as that, sites like boycottnovell would not exist.  Many people using and promoting Microsoft are simply unaware of Microsoft&#8217;s shameful business practices, but what excuse is there for those who are aware and yet pretend that it&#8217;s just a matter of pros and cons of OS products?  I do not know whether you are aware, but just because corporations have no ethics does not mean that human beings should not have them.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/02/22/microsoft-absolutely-terrified/comment-page-3/#comment-5870</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 01:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boycottnovell.com/2008/02/22/microsoft-absolutely-terrified/#comment-5870</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
In fact, I believe each OS have it’s own advantages and disadvantages.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You mean Longhorn and Vista? Despite the different names, those two are nearly identical in terms of their corpus. Based on last week&#039;s news, they even receive merely identical patches (see Mary Jo Foley&#039;s blog for details).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>
In fact, I believe each OS have it’s own advantages and disadvantages.
</p></blockquote>
<p>You mean Longhorn and Vista? Despite the different names, those two are nearly identical in terms of their corpus. Based on last week&#8217;s news, they even receive merely identical patches (see Mary Jo Foley&#8217;s blog for details).</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: BoomBoom</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/02/22/microsoft-absolutely-terrified/comment-page-3/#comment-5867</link>
		<dc:creator>BoomBoom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 00:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boycottnovell.com/2008/02/22/microsoft-absolutely-terrified/#comment-5867</guid>
		<description>&quot;Death spiral has already started. It will take years for their failure.&quot;

True enough.
The worry is how much damage M$ manages to do to open source on their way out via FUD, poisonware, patent extortion, manipulating governments, ect.
Nothing open source won&#039;t survive, I&#039;m sure.
At the end of the day, RIP Micro$uck and good riddance to them. The only ones that&#039;ll shed tears are the poor sheeple fanboys and shills that&#039;ll support the evil until the last gasp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Death spiral has already started. It will take years for their failure.&#8221;</p>
<p>True enough.<br />
The worry is how much damage M$ manages to do to open source on their way out via FUD, poisonware, patent extortion, manipulating governments, ect.<br />
Nothing open source won&#8217;t survive, I&#8217;m sure.<br />
At the end of the day, RIP Micro$uck and good riddance to them. The only ones that&#8217;ll shed tears are the poor sheeple fanboys and shills that&#8217;ll support the evil until the last gasp.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

