Comments on: OOXML Believed to be on Path to a Loss at ISO (ITNews) (Updated) http://techrights.org/2008/03/28/ooxml-said-to-be-losing/ Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those threatened by software freedom Tue, 07 Feb 2012 14:00:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Robert Millan http://techrights.org/2008/03/28/ooxml-said-to-be-losing/comment-page-3/#comment-7324 Robert Millan Fri, 28 Mar 2008 23:55:18 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/03/28/ooxml-said-to-be-losing/#comment-7324 CoolGuy, I think ISO's reputation will be broken beyond repair if they accept OOXML, but otherwise they could always reform, fixing all the flaws that got them into this nasty situation, and still preserve their honor (at least from my viewpoint). CoolGuy, I think ISO’s reputation will be broken beyond repair if they accept OOXML, but otherwise they could always reform, fixing all the flaws that got them into this nasty situation, and still preserve their honor (at least from my viewpoint).

]]> By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2008/03/28/ooxml-said-to-be-losing/comment-page-2/#comment-7302 Roy Schestowitz Fri, 28 Mar 2008 14:02:46 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/03/28/ooxml-said-to-be-losing/#comment-7302 Yes, it's him, Victor. home.waugh.id.au Yes, it’s him, Victor. home.waugh.id.au

]]> By: Victor Soliz http://techrights.org/2008/03/28/ooxml-said-to-be-losing/comment-page-2/#comment-7300 Victor Soliz Fri, 28 Mar 2008 13:57:15 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/03/28/ooxml-said-to-be-losing/#comment-7300 BTW Finland voted yes, because "it would make ISO develop OOXML and not MS" Looks like Durasau's remarks are working, lame. Gnome's actions were wrong for aiding OOXML adverts during the critical ISO approval process. Try to keep the discussion serious instead of avoiding statements by ridiculing them. (BTW Are you really Jess? I remember Jeff used to post including an URI) BTW Finland voted yes, because “it would make ISO develop OOXML and not MS” Looks like Durasau’s remarks are working, lame.

Gnome’s actions were wrong for aiding OOXML adverts during the critical ISO approval process. Try to keep the discussion serious instead of avoiding statements by ridiculing them. (BTW Are you really Jess? I remember Jeff used to post including an URI)

]]> By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2008/03/28/ooxml-said-to-be-losing/comment-page-2/#comment-7299 Roy Schestowitz Fri, 28 Mar 2008 13:55:46 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/03/28/ooxml-said-to-be-losing/#comment-7299 You encouraged (or at least defended) intervention in that 'Microsoft Club-for-Hire' called ECMA International, whose former head is now a Microsoft lobbyist working for CompTIA and pushing for OOXML around the world, as well as in the press. You encouraged (or at least defended) intervention in that ‘Microsoft Club-for-Hire’ called ECMA International, whose former head is now a Microsoft lobbyist working for CompTIA and pushing for OOXML around the world, as well as in the press.

]]> By: Jeff Waugh http://techrights.org/2008/03/28/ooxml-said-to-be-losing/comment-page-2/#comment-7298 Jeff Waugh Fri, 28 Mar 2008 13:51:52 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/03/28/ooxml-said-to-be-losing/#comment-7298 My actions were "wrong"? "Defeatism"? Hilarious. More interplanetary tangentialism from Roy. Just make sure you don't say anything to limit your next conspiracy theory escapade -- and definitely don't veer off into dangerous areas such as the truth, rational thought or reasonableness! My actions were “wrong”? “Defeatism”? Hilarious. More interplanetary tangentialism from Roy. Just make sure you don’t say anything to limit your next conspiracy theory escapade — and definitely don’t veer off into dangerous areas such as the truth, rational thought or reasonableness!

]]> By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2008/03/28/ooxml-said-to-be-losing/comment-page-2/#comment-7296 Roy Schestowitz Fri, 28 Mar 2008 13:45:53 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/03/28/ooxml-said-to-be-losing/#comment-7296 Jeff, the accusation was never that you want OOXML approved (unlike Miguel) but that your actions were wrong... as well as the sense of defeatism. If OOXML is slammed at ISO, who would have the last laugh? Bruce and his prediction (regarding OOXML) applies here as well. At the end of the day, for the benefit of us all, let's not fight over this. It's truly a distraction. We need to fight OOXML, not fight each other. Sadly, fighting OOXML turned out to be more of a case of fighting crime and corruption, not fighting over technical merits, which would have been an easier battle to pick. Jeff, the accusation was never that you want OOXML approved (unlike Miguel) but that your actions were wrong… as well as the sense of defeatism. If OOXML is slammed at ISO, who would have the last laugh? Bruce and his prediction (regarding OOXML) applies here as well.

At the end of the day, for the benefit of us all, let’s not fight over this. It’s truly a distraction. We need to fight OOXML, not fight each other. Sadly, fighting OOXML turned out to be more of a case of fighting crime and corruption, not fighting over technical merits, which would have been an easier battle to pick.

]]> By: Victor Soliz http://techrights.org/2008/03/28/ooxml-said-to-be-losing/comment-page-1/#comment-7294 Victor Soliz Fri, 28 Mar 2008 13:29:30 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/03/28/ooxml-said-to-be-losing/#comment-7294 I guess you mean that not wanting OOXML to be an ISO is a misleading conspiracy theory.... Hmmn that's quite a bad statement to make. I guess you mean that not wanting OOXML to be an ISO is a misleading conspiracy theory…. Hmmn that’s quite a bad statement to make.

]]> By: Jeff Waugh http://techrights.org/2008/03/28/ooxml-said-to-be-losing/comment-page-1/#comment-7293 Jeff Waugh Fri, 28 Mar 2008 13:25:13 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/03/28/ooxml-said-to-be-losing/#comment-7293 Ah, no reference at all to the person most quoted in this article? Of course not, that would not serve Roy's current and previous conspiracy theories, misleading accusations and insinuations. Not surprising in the least. Ah, no reference at all to the person most quoted in this article? Of course not, that would not serve Roy’s current and previous conspiracy theories, misleading accusations and insinuations. Not surprising in the least.

]]> By: Victor Soliz http://techrights.org/2008/03/28/ooxml-said-to-be-losing/comment-page-1/#comment-7292 Victor Soliz Fri, 28 Mar 2008 13:13:28 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/03/28/ooxml-said-to-be-losing/#comment-7292 I think leaving ISO's image broken is MS' plan B. I think leaving ISO’s image broken is MS’ plan B.

]]> By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2008/03/28/ooxml-said-to-be-losing/comment-page-1/#comment-7290 Roy Schestowitz Fri, 28 Mar 2008 12:48:43 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/03/28/ooxml-said-to-be-losing/#comment-7290 ISO's reputation will be in tatters regardless, having seen how the system was abused thus far. ISO’s reputation will be in tatters regardless, having seen how the system was abused thus far.

]]> By: CoolGuy http://techrights.org/2008/03/28/ooxml-said-to-be-losing/comment-page-1/#comment-7289 CoolGuy Fri, 28 Mar 2008 12:46:55 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/03/28/ooxml-said-to-be-losing/#comment-7289 Microsoft thinks that it can buy it way out of everything Passing such a broken specification as a ISO standard will be a laugh in the face of ISO. Their reputation will be over. Hope this does not happen. Microsoft thinks that it can buy it way out of everything

Passing such a broken specification as a ISO standard will be a laugh in the face of ISO. Their reputation will be over.

Hope this does not happen.

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