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	<title>Comments on: Update on OOXML and Norway: How a Technical Panel of 7 Grew to 30!</title>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/04/07/norway-moox-skyrocketing/comment-page-1/#comment-7685</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 02:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was about 2 years ago that I spoke to PJ about her adding links to Port25 where Miguel was chatting. I asked her why she linked to that hostile blog (and yes, it&#039;s hostile towards GNU/Linux, especially once you get past that grin and find out what Hilf /really/ thinks about the GPL and Linux).

Anyway, she told me: I want to show my readers who he really is. A few years later, watch how the Slashdot crowd feels about him now that he hides nothing. I personally believe that money and fame from Microsoft messed him up completely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was about 2 years ago that I spoke to PJ about her adding links to Port25 where Miguel was chatting. I asked her why she linked to that hostile blog (and yes, it&#8217;s hostile towards GNU/Linux, especially once you get past that grin and find out what Hilf /really/ thinks about the GPL and Linux).</p>
<p>Anyway, she told me: I want to show my readers who he really is. A few years later, watch how the Slashdot crowd feels about him now that he hides nothing. I personally believe that money and fame from Microsoft messed him up completely.</p>
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		<title>By: Victor Soliz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/04/07/norway-moox-skyrocketing/comment-page-1/#comment-7683</link>
		<dc:creator>Victor Soliz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 02:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am still finding myself unable to get over Miguel Icaza&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2008/Apr-02.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;blog post&lt;/a&gt; The more you get to read it the worst it gets, it also looks like his comments section is heavily &quot;moderated&quot; since the only reply it got was something reporting how happy Durasau is about this (after all it is mostly like these guys are soulmates)

&lt;blockquote&gt;Microsoft moving away from their proprietary file formats to open, and XML-based (easier to manipulate, produce and consume) file formats. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
Except OOXML is not really open, and it is not XML either.

&lt;blockquote&gt;
1. The specifications for the old binary file formats were published under the OSP (February of 2008). 

4. Microsoft agreed that future versions of OOXML will be covered by the OSP a concern that some people had about future versions of the document. 
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Major community wins, MS&#039; own OSP powered by anti GPL.

&lt;blockquote&gt;
6. working group was created to look into harmonization of OOXML and ODF, something that many developers involved in office suites have been advocating for a long time. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
Great, so we had an ISO standard that was open and multi vendor, but now we have to merge it with some 6000 pages monster that&#039;s tied to MS like heck.

&lt;blockquote&gt;7. Microsoft pledged to support features to support other file formats as native file formats in their office suite: &lt;/blockquote&gt;Followed by a MS quote in which the word &quot;Translator&quot; is all over the place. This said, wtf does this have to do with OOXML standardization?

&lt;blockquote&gt;9. And finally, now that OOXML is an ISO standard, as Patrick Durusau implied there are many winners.

Anyways, I wanted to keep this short and uplifting, this seems like a win for everyone all around.

Preemptive-reply-to-the-above-paragraph: I will not reply/approve any flames, FUD or half-truths. 
 &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ladies and gentlemen, this is the sort of people behind MONO and Novell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am still finding myself unable to get over Miguel Icaza&#8217;s <a href="http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2008/Apr-02.html" rel="nofollow">blog post</a> The more you get to read it the worst it gets, it also looks like his comments section is heavily &#8220;moderated&#8221; since the only reply it got was something reporting how happy Durasau is about this (after all it is mostly like these guys are soulmates)</p>
<blockquote><p>Microsoft moving away from their proprietary file formats to open, and XML-based (easier to manipulate, produce and consume) file formats. </p></blockquote>
<p>Except OOXML is not really open, and it is not XML either.</p>
<blockquote><p>
1. The specifications for the old binary file formats were published under the OSP (February of 2008). </p>
<p>4. Microsoft agreed that future versions of OOXML will be covered by the OSP a concern that some people had about future versions of the document.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Major community wins, MS&#8217; own OSP powered by anti GPL.</p>
<blockquote><p>
6. working group was created to look into harmonization of OOXML and ODF, something that many developers involved in office suites have been advocating for a long time. </p></blockquote>
<p>Great, so we had an ISO standard that was open and multi vendor, but now we have to merge it with some 6000 pages monster that&#8217;s tied to MS like heck.</p>
<blockquote><p>7. Microsoft pledged to support features to support other file formats as native file formats in their office suite: </p></blockquote>
<p>Followed by a MS quote in which the word &#8220;Translator&#8221; is all over the place. This said, wtf does this have to do with OOXML standardization?</p>
<blockquote><p>9. And finally, now that OOXML is an ISO standard, as Patrick Durusau implied there are many winners.</p>
<p>Anyways, I wanted to keep this short and uplifting, this seems like a win for everyone all around.</p>
<p>Preemptive-reply-to-the-above-paragraph: I will not reply/approve any flames, FUD or half-truths.
 </p></blockquote>
<p>Ladies and gentlemen, this is the sort of people behind MONO and Novell.</p>
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