Comments on: Microsoft’s Secret Anti-ODF Deals http://techrights.org/2008/04/09/microsoft-dirty-fight-vs-odf/ Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those threatened by software freedom Tue, 07 Feb 2012 14:00:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2008/04/09/microsoft-dirty-fight-vs-odf/comment-page-2/#comment-7857 Roy Schestowitz Sat, 12 Apr 2008 03:43:58 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/04/09/microsoft-dirty-fight-vs-odf/#comment-7857 Microsoft can be very sophisticated in such situations. Microsoft does not directly penalise for supporting ODF (it's too risky, transparent). Instead, it offers incentives if the developer or packager does not encourage the use of ODF (or contrariwise, if the developer promotes OOXML rather than demotes ODF). Negatives and positives are the game played here. Punishment versus reward. For precedence, I recommend that you read the antitrust exhibits cited <a href="http://boycottnovell.com/2007/10/29/exclusionary-deals-linux/" rel="nofollow">here</a> (among others). In some of them you will find out how Microsoft virtually pressured if not forced OEMs not to create an icon for (let alone preinstall) Netscape Navigator. Defense from involved party is matter of securing the special relationship. Again it's worth stressing that it's rather speculative. Only ThinkFree knows its arrangements with Microsoft. Microsoft can be very sophisticated in such situations. Microsoft does not directly penalise for supporting ODF (it’s too risky, transparent). Instead, it offers incentives if the developer or packager does not encourage the use of ODF (or contrariwise, if the developer promotes OOXML rather than demotes ODF). Negatives and positives are the game played here. Punishment versus reward.

For precedence, I recommend that you read the antitrust exhibits cited here (among others). In some of them you will find out how Microsoft virtually pressured if not forced OEMs not to create an icon for (let alone preinstall) Netscape Navigator.

Defense from involved party is matter of securing the special relationship. Again it’s worth stressing that it’s rather speculative. Only ThinkFree knows its arrangements with Microsoft.

]]> By: Victor Soliz http://techrights.org/2008/04/09/microsoft-dirty-fight-vs-odf/comment-page-1/#comment-7856 Victor Soliz Sat, 12 Apr 2008 03:29:52 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/04/09/microsoft-dirty-fight-vs-odf/#comment-7856 <blockquote>They could be, but they could also be telling the truth. I guess you choose to assume they’re lying. </blockquote>And you seem to assume they are not lying. I got an easy way to find out if they are lying. If there really is an MS anti ODF deal involved, then they will not support ODF. If there isn't an anti ODF clause, they will.

They could be, but they could also be telling the truth.

I guess you choose to assume they’re lying.

And you seem to assume they are not lying.

I got an easy way to find out if they are lying. If there really is an MS anti ODF deal involved, then they will not support ODF. If there isn’t an anti ODF clause, they will.

]]> By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2008/04/09/microsoft-dirty-fight-vs-odf/comment-page-1/#comment-7846 Roy Schestowitz Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:24:43 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/04/09/microsoft-dirty-fight-vs-odf/#comment-7846 I assume nothing. but I present the inconsistencies or contradictions. They are likely to mean nothing, but the opposite should not be ruled out entirely. I assume nothing. but I present the inconsistencies or contradictions. They are likely to mean nothing, but the opposite should not be ruled out entirely.

]]> By: Jimbo Jones http://techrights.org/2008/04/09/microsoft-dirty-fight-vs-odf/comment-page-1/#comment-7845 Jimbo Jones Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:13:08 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/04/09/microsoft-dirty-fight-vs-odf/#comment-7845 They could be, but they could also be telling the truth. I guess you choose to assume they're lying. They could be, but they could also be telling the truth.

I guess you choose to assume they’re lying.

]]> By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2008/04/09/microsoft-dirty-fight-vs-odf/comment-page-1/#comment-7819 Roy Schestowitz Fri, 11 Apr 2008 00:31:13 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/04/09/microsoft-dirty-fight-vs-odf/#comment-7819 They could be covering their backs. There are other incidents and I've just been sent this: http://www.universal-interop-council.org/node/29 (not read it yet) They could be covering their backs. There are other incidents and I’ve just been sent this:

http://www.universal-interop-council.org/node/29 (not read it yet)

]]> By: Jimbo Jones http://techrights.org/2008/04/09/microsoft-dirty-fight-vs-odf/comment-page-1/#comment-7813 Jimbo Jones Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:28:30 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/04/09/microsoft-dirty-fight-vs-odf/#comment-7813 In reading the above mentioned blog, it seems the author says he misspoke, and that it was his personal opinion. Another member of the company said explicitly that they would not accept any such deal, and that the problems with ODF were strictly in terms of them not knowing much about it yet, and having certain compatibility conerns they need to figure out solutions for. In reading the above mentioned blog, it seems the author says he misspoke, and that it was his personal opinion. Another member of the company said explicitly that they would not accept any such deal, and that the problems with ODF were strictly in terms of them not knowing much about it yet, and having certain compatibility conerns they need to figure out solutions for.

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