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	<title>Comments on: Shame on You ISO, Shame On You. Total Disgrace.</title>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/04/15/shame-on-iso/comment-page-2/#comment-8009</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 22:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But IBM and Sun tried to extinguish that fire. I&#039;ll write more about this shortly because there are some related reports.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But IBM and Sun tried to extinguish that fire. I&#8217;ll write more about this shortly because there are some related reports.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Bixler</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/04/15/shame-on-iso/comment-page-2/#comment-8008</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Bixler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 22:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That sounds right to me and, also, there is the matter of the sudden change of heart of Patrick Durusau, chair of the US committee on JTC1 SC34, vis a vis OOXML.  He had been unenthusiastic about OOXML but now, he believes it should be a standard:

On The Importance Of Being Heard
http://www.durusau.net/publications/onbeingheard.pdf

That&#039;s what first made me suspicious that something behind the scenes was going on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That sounds right to me and, also, there is the matter of the sudden change of heart of Patrick Durusau, chair of the US committee on JTC1 SC34, vis a vis OOXML.  He had been unenthusiastic about OOXML but now, he believes it should be a standard:</p>
<p>On The Importance Of Being Heard<br />
<a href="http://www.durusau.net/publications/onbeingheard.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.durusau.net/publications/onbeingheard.pdf</a></p>
<p>That&#8217;s what first made me suspicious that something behind the scenes was going on.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/04/15/shame-on-iso/comment-page-1/#comment-8007</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 21:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roy, in the OpenOffice.org blog it has just been stated that ODF 1.2 is on track, but interestingly enough, none of the IBM employees/bloggers has publicly criticised OOXML for a couple of weeks. It all stopped a few days before ISO&#039;s announcement, which I found a tad suspicious. Shortly after ISO&#039;s announcement, however, Weir and Sutor expressed great frustration, so I don&#039;t know for sure.

Be aware that the rumour you mention seems to have come from Marbux, who comes from the defunct OpenDocument Foundation. He E-mailed me these details, which later spread much further.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roy, in the OpenOffice.org blog it has just been stated that ODF 1.2 is on track, but interestingly enough, none of the IBM employees/bloggers has publicly criticised OOXML for a couple of weeks. It all stopped a few days before ISO&#8217;s announcement, which I found a tad suspicious. Shortly after ISO&#8217;s announcement, however, Weir and Sutor expressed great frustration, so I don&#8217;t know for sure.</p>
<p>Be aware that the rumour you mention seems to have come from Marbux, who comes from the defunct OpenDocument Foundation. He E-mailed me these details, which later spread much further.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Bixler</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/04/15/shame-on-iso/comment-page-1/#comment-8005</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Bixler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 20:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the rumour mill is correct, then there was some sort of back room deal which was &quot;IBM, Sun, et al drop their opposition to OOXML and, in return, Microsoft will not oppose ODF.&quot;  I suppose we will soon see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the rumour mill is correct, then there was some sort of back room deal which was &#8220;IBM, Sun, et al drop their opposition to OOXML and, in return, Microsoft will not oppose ODF.&#8221;  I suppose we will soon see.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/04/15/shame-on-iso/comment-page-1/#comment-8003</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 18:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
And, please, ask SUN why didn’t they submit ODF v1.2 to ISO approval!
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

As far as I know, they will soon. It remains to be seen if Microsoft will stuff ballots against it as some already predict.</description>
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And, please, ask SUN why didn’t they submit ODF v1.2 to ISO approval!
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<p>As far as I know, they will soon. It remains to be seen if Microsoft will stuff ballots against it as some already predict.</p>
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		<title>By: CoolGuy</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/04/15/shame-on-iso/comment-page-1/#comment-7995</link>
		<dc:creator>CoolGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its all going down for Microsoft. No one is going to regret their going down !!

Hail to freedom baby !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its all going down for Microsoft. No one is going to regret their going down !!</p>
<p>Hail to freedom baby !!</p>
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		<title>By: Logan</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/04/15/shame-on-iso/comment-page-1/#comment-7993</link>
		<dc:creator>Logan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bitching again about ISO. ISO doesn&#039;t care opensource, open standards or integrity. It&#039;s like bitching about the Soviet Union not being democratic. Or the Mafia not being saints.

They understand the real world. Like Novell.

In the real world only 2 things matter: winning and money!

Stop moaning. You&#039;ll get nowhere! 

And, please, ask SUN why didn&#039;t they submit ODF v1.2 to ISO approval!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bitching again about ISO. ISO doesn&#8217;t care opensource, open standards or integrity. It&#8217;s like bitching about the Soviet Union not being democratic. Or the Mafia not being saints.</p>
<p>They understand the real world. Like Novell.</p>
<p>In the real world only 2 things matter: winning and money!</p>
<p>Stop moaning. You&#8217;ll get nowhere! </p>
<p>And, please, ask SUN why didn&#8217;t they submit ODF v1.2 to ISO approval!</p>
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