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	<title>Comments on: Setting the Record Straight on OOXML and Silverblight [sic]</title>
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		<title>By: Colin</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/05/15/ooxml-truths-rigging-ooo/comment-page-3/#comment-9954</link>
		<dc:creator>Colin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 18:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a bit complicated for a lowly web designer like me : )</description>
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		<title>By: Dan O'Brian</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/05/15/ooxml-truths-rigging-ooo/comment-page-3/#comment-9934</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan O'Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 14:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We can&#039;t use AJAX because it depends on XMLHttpRequest which is a Microsoft-introduced technology and they might have patents.

&lt;/sarcasm&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We can&#8217;t use AJAX because it depends on XMLHttpRequest which is a Microsoft-introduced technology and they might have patents.</p>
<p>&lt;/sarcasm&gt;</p>
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		<title>By: Alex H.</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/05/15/ooxml-truths-rigging-ooo/comment-page-2/#comment-9919</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 11:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@gggggg:

Miguel has no problem with the licensing terms of Moonlight; neither does anyone else. 

Miguel was criticizing the deal to support non-free codecs from Microsoft for video and audio. Nothing to do with Moonlight&#039;s licensing; you don&#039;t need the codecs for Moonlight and there is a non-Microsoft free software solution also available instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@gggggg:</p>
<p>Miguel has no problem with the licensing terms of Moonlight; neither does anyone else. </p>
<p>Miguel was criticizing the deal to support non-free codecs from Microsoft for video and audio. Nothing to do with Moonlight&#8217;s licensing; you don&#8217;t need the codecs for Moonlight and there is a non-Microsoft free software solution also available instead.</p>
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		<title>By: Victor Soliz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/05/15/ooxml-truths-rigging-ooo/comment-page-2/#comment-9901</link>
		<dc:creator>Victor Soliz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 23:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ever since pages like google began to use AJAX everything got ruined, it is unbelievable I have to give javascript execution rights to everything. And RIA&#039;s are just the cherry on top of the icecream, I wish for a world without any of those things.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Silverblight&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Very nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ever since pages like google began to use AJAX everything got ruined, it is unbelievable I have to give javascript execution rights to everything. And RIA&#8217;s are just the cherry on top of the icecream, I wish for a world without any of those things.</p>
<blockquote><p>Silverblight</p></blockquote>
<p>Very nice.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/05/15/ooxml-truths-rigging-ooo/comment-page-2/#comment-9898</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 22:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;gggggg&#039;, I don&#039;t promote any RIA. I promote things like (X)HTML, maybe Ajax. That&#039;s just what&#039;s most risky to all those proprietary plug-ins and removal of Ogg from HTML5 was a sin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;gggggg&#8217;, I don&#8217;t promote any RIA. I promote things like (X)HTML, maybe Ajax. That&#8217;s just what&#8217;s most risky to all those proprietary plug-ins and removal of Ogg from HTML5 was a sin.</p>
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		<title>By: Niklas (sic!) Koswinkle</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/05/15/ooxml-truths-rigging-ooo/comment-page-2/#comment-9897</link>
		<dc:creator>Niklas (sic!) Koswinkle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 21:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He, he; finally someone who tries to be more of a troll than Roy himself.
Please stay, Mr. gggg, we&#039;ll feed you.  :-)

&lt;font color=&quot;#ff0000&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Note&lt;/b&gt;: comment has been flagged for arriving from a possible incarnation of a known (eet), pseudonymous, forever-nymshifting, &lt;a href=&quot;http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/22/eet-strommael-gmx-net/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;abusive&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Internet troll&lt;/a&gt; that posts from &lt;a href=&quot;http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/27/eet-proxies/&quot; title=&quot;The ‘eet’ Nuisance Has Many Proxies/Indentities&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;open proxies and relays around the world&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/font&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He, he; finally someone who tries to be more of a troll than Roy himself.<br />
Please stay, Mr. gggg, we&#8217;ll feed you.  <img src='http://techrights.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><font color="#ff0000"><b>Note</b>: comment has been flagged for arriving from a possible incarnation of a known (eet), pseudonymous, forever-nymshifting, <a href="http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/22/eet-strommael-gmx-net/" rel="nofollow">abusive</a> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll" rel="nofollow">Internet troll</a> that posts from <a href="http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/27/eet-proxies/" title="The ‘eet’ Nuisance Has Many Proxies/Indentities" rel="nofollow">open proxies and relays around the world</a>.</font></p>
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		<title>By: gggggg</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/05/15/ooxml-truths-rigging-ooo/comment-page-2/#comment-9896</link>
		<dc:creator>gggggg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 19:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Niklas (sic!) Koswinkle...

&quot;I&quot; don&#039;t need to be taken seriously. I am not a prophet.

What I wrote is the truth. If you don&#039;t agree, provide rebuttal evidence.

I&#039;m sorry that you don&#039;t how write &quot;shut&quot;. You&#039;ll learn. You&#039;re on the right track already. The first step to be an hypocrite is to lie to yourself.

I wish you all the best in that journey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Niklas (sic!) Koswinkle&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8221; don&#8217;t need to be taken seriously. I am not a prophet.</p>
<p>What I wrote is the truth. If you don&#8217;t agree, provide rebuttal evidence.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry that you don&#8217;t how write &#8220;shut&#8221;. You&#8217;ll learn. You&#8217;re on the right track already. The first step to be an hypocrite is to lie to yourself.</p>
<p>I wish you all the best in that journey.</p>
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		<title>By: gggggg</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/05/15/ooxml-truths-rigging-ooo/comment-page-1/#comment-9895</link>
		<dc:creator>gggggg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 19:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, to the guy that writes this blog.

GET A GRIP!

Adobe, Flash and Adobe AIR are as Open as Fort Knox!

Adobe is a proprietary company, with proprietary products.

It&#039;s not a &quot;knight in shining armor&quot;.

If you want to &quot;defeat&quot; Microsoft and Novell, PROMOTE OPEN SOURCE PRODUCTS. STOP WHINING!

Flash is utter crap. Silverlight/Moonlight can not be worse than that!

JavaFX is vapourware. It will not go anywhere!

The prospect of having instead of only one application eating all memory and CPU time, having several of them doing the same is wonderful.

And their &quot;RICH UIS&quot;. Yeah, right! Adding crappy window decorations like &quot;Windows Vista&quot; and the new KDE4 will certainly make these things better than &quot;sliced bread&quot;.

Again to the guy that writes this blog!

GROW THE F+++ UP! NOW!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, to the guy that writes this blog.</p>
<p>GET A GRIP!</p>
<p>Adobe, Flash and Adobe AIR are as Open as Fort Knox!</p>
<p>Adobe is a proprietary company, with proprietary products.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not a &#8220;knight in shining armor&#8221;.</p>
<p>If you want to &#8220;defeat&#8221; Microsoft and Novell, PROMOTE OPEN SOURCE PRODUCTS. STOP WHINING!</p>
<p>Flash is utter crap. Silverlight/Moonlight can not be worse than that!</p>
<p>JavaFX is vapourware. It will not go anywhere!</p>
<p>The prospect of having instead of only one application eating all memory and CPU time, having several of them doing the same is wonderful.</p>
<p>And their &#8220;RICH UIS&#8221;. Yeah, right! Adding crappy window decorations like &#8220;Windows Vista&#8221; and the new KDE4 will certainly make these things better than &#8220;sliced bread&#8221;.</p>
<p>Again to the guy that writes this blog!</p>
<p>GROW THE F+++ UP! NOW!</p>
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		<title>By: Niklas (sic!) Koswinkle</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/05/15/ooxml-truths-rigging-ooo/comment-page-1/#comment-9894</link>
		<dc:creator>Niklas (sic!) Koswinkle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 19:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>shit

^_^

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>shit</p>
<p>^_^</p>
<p><font color="#ff0000"><b>Note</b>: comment has been flagged for arriving from a possible incarnation of a known (eet), pseudonymous, forever-nymshifting, <a href="http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/22/eet-strommael-gmx-net/" rel="nofollow">abusive</a> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll" rel="nofollow">Internet troll</a> that posts from <a href="http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/27/eet-proxies/" title="The ‘eet’ Nuisance Has Many Proxies/Indentities" rel="nofollow">open proxies and relays around the world</a>.</font></p>
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		<title>By: Niklas (sic!) Koswinkle</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/05/15/ooxml-truths-rigging-ooo/comment-page-1/#comment-9893</link>
		<dc:creator>Niklas (sic!) Koswinkle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 19:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, how adult you are, &#039;gggg&#039;... How do you expect to be taken seriously if you write such shut?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, how adult you are, &#8216;gggg&#8217;&#8230; How do you expect to be taken seriously if you write such shut?</p>
<p><font color="#ff0000"><b>Note</b>: comment has been flagged for arriving from a possible incarnation of a known (eet), pseudonymous, forever-nymshifting, <a href="http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/22/eet-strommael-gmx-net/" rel="nofollow">abusive</a> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll" rel="nofollow">Internet troll</a> that posts from <a href="http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/27/eet-proxies/" title="The ‘eet’ Nuisance Has Many Proxies/Indentities" rel="nofollow">open proxies and relays around the world</a>.</font></p>
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		<title>By: gggggg</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/05/15/ooxml-truths-rigging-ooo/comment-page-1/#comment-9892</link>
		<dc:creator>gggggg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 19:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I’m somewhat saddened that you continue to misrepresent what Miguel said, though. He rightly criticized the deal to use non-free video codecs in Moonlight.&quot;

I’m not at all surprised that you continue to misrepresent what Miguel said, though. Because that is not what he said at all. But go ahead and continue to spread disinformation.

He didn&#039;t criticized anything. He, like the hypocrite that he is, tried wash out the &quot;blame&quot;, &quot;guilt&quot; whatever you want to called it. Put the responsibility on others for things that he has done and continue to do.

Isn&#039;t he a Vice President? Yes, he is!

&quot;Vice President of Developer Platform&quot;

Of course, no responsibility at all. A pawn.

He has no right to criticize anything, because he agree with it freely.

If he didn&#039;t agree with the terms of the agreement he should have said so at that time. Not an year after. Why does continue to work there? Why does he continue to work and promote something that he disagrees?

Why does he continue to develop and promote &quot;Moonlight&quot; and &quot;Silverlight&quot; if he doesn&#039;t agree with license terms and that he views that agreement as harming Open Source?

The answer to all that? He is an hypocrite! And so you are!

That is no surprise at all!

You make me sick. You and your brothers Microsoft&#039; puppets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’m somewhat saddened that you continue to misrepresent what Miguel said, though. He rightly criticized the deal to use non-free video codecs in Moonlight.&#8221;</p>
<p>I’m not at all surprised that you continue to misrepresent what Miguel said, though. Because that is not what he said at all. But go ahead and continue to spread disinformation.</p>
<p>He didn&#8217;t criticized anything. He, like the hypocrite that he is, tried wash out the &#8220;blame&#8221;, &#8220;guilt&#8221; whatever you want to called it. Put the responsibility on others for things that he has done and continue to do.</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t he a Vice President? Yes, he is!</p>
<p>&#8220;Vice President of Developer Platform&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course, no responsibility at all. A pawn.</p>
<p>He has no right to criticize anything, because he agree with it freely.</p>
<p>If he didn&#8217;t agree with the terms of the agreement he should have said so at that time. Not an year after. Why does continue to work there? Why does he continue to work and promote something that he disagrees?</p>
<p>Why does he continue to develop and promote &#8220;Moonlight&#8221; and &#8220;Silverlight&#8221; if he doesn&#8217;t agree with license terms and that he views that agreement as harming Open Source?</p>
<p>The answer to all that? He is an hypocrite! And so you are!</p>
<p>That is no surprise at all!</p>
<p>You make me sick. You and your brothers Microsoft&#8217; puppets.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex H.</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/05/15/ooxml-truths-rigging-ooo/comment-page-1/#comment-9885</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 15:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;What this means is that the OpenOffice.org project has to work directly on the files edited and created by MS Office 2007 and 2008 in order to provide compatibility and does not use the OOXML specification, as it is not implemented by MS Office 2007 and Microsoft Office 2008&quot;

Ok. So if we say that Microsoft Office doesn&#039;t output OOXML, we can then say OpenOffice.org doesn&#039;t support OOXML because it&#039;s only designed to work with files that come out of Office. Nice piece of logic.

I&#039;m somewhat saddened that you continue to misrepresent what Miguel said, though. He rightly criticized the deal to use non-free video codecs in Moonlight. 

It&#039;s also sad that you continue to boost Flash, which has *exactly the same* non-free codec problem as Moonlight. Actually, worse: you can leave the non-free codecs out of Moonlight and use free ones. The Adobe Flash player is entirely non-free, and there&#039;s still no open spec. for Shockwave.

Sad also that you boost Adobe AIR, which again is totally non-free. Can we even create a free version? The EULA says &quot;Adobe has the right to impose reasonable conditions and to request a reasonable fee before providing such information.&quot; - http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/eula/air.html .

First class citizen indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What this means is that the OpenOffice.org project has to work directly on the files edited and created by MS Office 2007 and 2008 in order to provide compatibility and does not use the OOXML specification, as it is not implemented by MS Office 2007 and Microsoft Office 2008&#8243;</p>
<p>Ok. So if we say that Microsoft Office doesn&#8217;t output OOXML, we can then say OpenOffice.org doesn&#8217;t support OOXML because it&#8217;s only designed to work with files that come out of Office. Nice piece of logic.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m somewhat saddened that you continue to misrepresent what Miguel said, though. He rightly criticized the deal to use non-free video codecs in Moonlight. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s also sad that you continue to boost Flash, which has *exactly the same* non-free codec problem as Moonlight. Actually, worse: you can leave the non-free codecs out of Moonlight and use free ones. The Adobe Flash player is entirely non-free, and there&#8217;s still no open spec. for Shockwave.</p>
<p>Sad also that you boost Adobe AIR, which again is totally non-free. Can we even create a free version? The EULA says &#8220;Adobe has the right to impose reasonable conditions and to request a reasonable fee before providing such information.&#8221; &#8211; <a href="http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/eula/air.html" rel="nofollow">http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/eula/air.html</a> .</p>
<p>First class citizen indeed.</p>
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