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	<title>Comments on: Op-Ed: Novell Pollutes Free Software (and GNU/Linux) in Preparation for Microsoft Attacks</title>
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		<title>By: stevetheFLY</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/05/23/novell-pollutes-foss/comment-page-3/#comment-10686</link>
		<dc:creator>stevetheFLY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 21:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...and the latter surves was done by another &#039;Anti-Novell&#039;-freak like yourself. Very, very convincing...

At www.distrowatch.com openSUSE now ranks second behind Ubuntu. Not bad. Fedora ranks 4th.


&lt;font color=&quot;#ff0000&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Note&lt;/b&gt;: comment has been flagged for arriving from a possible incarnation of a known (eet), pseudonymous, forever-nymshifting, &lt;a href=&quot;http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/22/eet-strommael-gmx-net/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;abusive&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Internet troll&lt;/a&gt; that posts from &lt;a href=&quot;http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/27/eet-proxies/&quot; title=&quot;The ‘eet’ Nuisance Has Many Proxies/Indentities&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;open proxies and relays around the world&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/font&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;and the latter surves was done by another &#8216;Anti-Novell&#8217;-freak like yourself. Very, very convincing&#8230;</p>
<p>At <a href="http://www.distrowatch.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.distrowatch.com</a> openSUSE now ranks second behind Ubuntu. Not bad. Fedora ranks 4th.</p>
<p><font color="#ff0000"><b>Note</b>: comment has been flagged for arriving from a possible incarnation of a known (eet), pseudonymous, forever-nymshifting, <a href="http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/22/eet-strommael-gmx-net/" rel="nofollow">abusive</a> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll" rel="nofollow">Internet troll</a> that posts from <a href="http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/27/eet-proxies/" title="The ‘eet’ Nuisance Has Many Proxies/Indentities" rel="nofollow">open proxies and relays around the world</a>.</font></p>
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		<title>By: stevetheFLY</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/05/23/novell-pollutes-foss/comment-page-3/#comment-10685</link>
		<dc:creator>stevetheFLY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 21:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This &#039;article&#039; of yours is just a big bag of nothingness. No substance. Only Blablabla...


&lt;font color=&quot;#ff0000&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Note&lt;/b&gt;: comment has been flagged for arriving from a possible incarnation of a known (eet), pseudonymous, forever-nymshifting, &lt;a href=&quot;http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/22/eet-strommael-gmx-net/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;abusive&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Internet troll&lt;/a&gt; that posts from &lt;a href=&quot;http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/27/eet-proxies/&quot; title=&quot;The ‘eet’ Nuisance Has Many Proxies/Indentities&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;open proxies and relays around the world&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/font&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This &#8216;article&#8217; of yours is just a big bag of nothingness. No substance. Only Blablabla&#8230;</p>
<p><font color="#ff0000"><b>Note</b>: comment has been flagged for arriving from a possible incarnation of a known (eet), pseudonymous, forever-nymshifting, <a href="http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/22/eet-strommael-gmx-net/" rel="nofollow">abusive</a> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll" rel="nofollow">Internet troll</a> that posts from <a href="http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/27/eet-proxies/" title="The ‘eet’ Nuisance Has Many Proxies/Indentities" rel="nofollow">open proxies and relays around the world</a>.</font></p>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/05/23/novell-pollutes-foss/comment-page-3/#comment-10604</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 00:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Novell is Microsoft&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/11/novell-pen-sheep/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Pen O’ Sheep&lt;/a&gt;. That&#039;s where it wants to &#039;imprison&#039; all GNU/Linux users, but it has some smaller companies under its thumb too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Novell is Microsoft&#8217;s <a href="http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/11/novell-pen-sheep/" rel="nofollow">Pen O’ Sheep</a>. That&#8217;s where it wants to &#8216;imprison&#8217; all GNU/Linux users, but it has some smaller companies under its thumb too.</p>
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		<title>By: gggggg</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/05/23/novell-pollutes-foss/comment-page-2/#comment-10572</link>
		<dc:creator>gggggg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 17:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The other thing is mono, Moonlight and OOXML translators, are all Novells ‘Invervations’, which means that Red Hat is not the inventor, so it’s only Novell who will get sued.&quot;

They can sue anyone: a user, a distributor, seller it doesn&#039;t mind. It&#039;s fair game. A round of applause to the close minded individuals that write laws...

And if they are knowingly infringing it&#039;s worse: read this from &quot;http://www.air2water.net/legal.html&quot;

&quot;Contributory infringement can be committed by knowingly selling or supplying an item for which the only use is in connection with a patented invention. Good faith or ignorance is no defense for direct infringement, but it can be for indirect or contributory infringement.

Knowingly infringing on a patented his willful infringement and subject of triple damages and legal fees and maybe punitive damages.&quot;

Microsoft has put everyone on notice: the only safe place is &quot;Novell/Microsoft&quot;. Please thank Novell for this.

Microsoft will sooner or later buy/merge with Novell. This is a thing that many inside Novell want from Ron to Miguel.

I just want to see how the developers will react. Will contribute to something that only Micronell can safely &quot;sell&quot;. Will they fall for the &quot;non-commercial/hobbyist developer&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The other thing is mono, Moonlight and OOXML translators, are all Novells ‘Invervations’, which means that Red Hat is not the inventor, so it’s only Novell who will get sued.&#8221;</p>
<p>They can sue anyone: a user, a distributor, seller it doesn&#8217;t mind. It&#8217;s fair game. A round of applause to the close minded individuals that write laws&#8230;</p>
<p>And if they are knowingly infringing it&#8217;s worse: read this from &#8220;http://www.air2water.net/legal.html&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Contributory infringement can be committed by knowingly selling or supplying an item for which the only use is in connection with a patented invention. Good faith or ignorance is no defense for direct infringement, but it can be for indirect or contributory infringement.</p>
<p>Knowingly infringing on a patented his willful infringement and subject of triple damages and legal fees and maybe punitive damages.&#8221;</p>
<p>Microsoft has put everyone on notice: the only safe place is &#8220;Novell/Microsoft&#8221;. Please thank Novell for this.</p>
<p>Microsoft will sooner or later buy/merge with Novell. This is a thing that many inside Novell want from Ron to Miguel.</p>
<p>I just want to see how the developers will react. Will contribute to something that only Micronell can safely &#8220;sell&#8221;. Will they fall for the &#8220;non-commercial/hobbyist developer&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/05/23/novell-pollutes-foss/comment-page-2/#comment-10552</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 09:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
I’m not a lawyer, but AFAIK, there is a law that has to do with public discrimination (the FUD campaign).
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes, it applies in Germany. I can find you the relevant Web page (in German) if you are interested.

&lt;blockquote&gt;
The other thing is mono, Moonlight and OOXML translators, are all Novells ‘Invervations’, which means that Red Hat is not the inventor, so it’s only Novell who will get sued.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Alex is right on this one.</description>
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I’m not a lawyer, but AFAIK, there is a law that has to do with public discrimination (the FUD campaign).
</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, it applies in Germany. I can find you the relevant Web page (in German) if you are interested.</p>
<blockquote><p>
The other thing is mono, Moonlight and OOXML translators, are all Novells ‘Invervations’, which means that Red Hat is not the inventor, so it’s only Novell who will get sued.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Alex is right on this one.</p>
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		<title>By: AlexH</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/05/23/novell-pollutes-foss/comment-page-2/#comment-10551</link>
		<dc:creator>AlexH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 09:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ZiggyFish:

In general, you don&#039;t need to have invented/written/created something to be sued over patent infringement. If Red Hat distribute Mono, and Microsoft decide they think Mono infringes one of their patents, they are quite within their rights to sue Red Hat.

Of course, if they do that, then Novell/OIN must counter-sue Microsoft and stuff gets interesting ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ZiggyFish:</p>
<p>In general, you don&#8217;t need to have invented/written/created something to be sued over patent infringement. If Red Hat distribute Mono, and Microsoft decide they think Mono infringes one of their patents, they are quite within their rights to sue Red Hat.</p>
<p>Of course, if they do that, then Novell/OIN must counter-sue Microsoft and stuff gets interesting <img src='http://techrights.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ZiggyFish</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/05/23/novell-pollutes-foss/comment-page-2/#comment-10550</link>
		<dc:creator>ZiggyFish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 08:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The other thing is mono, Moonlight and OOXML translators, are all Novells &#039;Invervations&#039;, which means that Red Hat is not the inventor, so it&#039;s only Novell who will get sued.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The other thing is mono, Moonlight and OOXML translators, are all Novells &#8216;Invervations&#8217;, which means that Red Hat is not the inventor, so it&#8217;s only Novell who will get sued.</p>
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		<title>By: ZiggyFish</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/05/23/novell-pollutes-foss/comment-page-2/#comment-10549</link>
		<dc:creator>ZiggyFish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 08:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Red Hat will take it to court.

&lt;blockquote&gt;It doesn’t need to actually test its claims in court,&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m not a lawyer, but AFAIK, there is a law that has to do with public discrimination (the FUD campaign). Which is what Microsoft is doing to Linux. Also we have the EU that will say something when they decide to take it to court. Their already on Microsoft&#039;s back about the ODF implementation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Red Hat will take it to court.</p>
<blockquote><p>It doesn’t need to actually test its claims in court,</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m not a lawyer, but AFAIK, there is a law that has to do with public discrimination (the FUD campaign). Which is what Microsoft is doing to Linux. Also we have the EU that will say something when they decide to take it to court. Their already on Microsoft&#8217;s back about the ODF implementation.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/05/23/novell-pollutes-foss/comment-page-1/#comment-10548</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 08:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just don&#039;t forget that all Microsoft needs is something to rattle the saber over. It doesn&#039;t need to actually test its claims in court, &lt;em&gt;let alone specify what they are&lt;/em&gt; (cryptic documentation aside).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just don&#8217;t forget that all Microsoft needs is something to rattle the saber over. It doesn&#8217;t need to actually test its claims in court, <em>let alone specify what they are</em> (cryptic documentation aside).</p>
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		<title>By: ZiggyFish</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/05/23/novell-pollutes-foss/comment-page-1/#comment-10547</link>
		<dc:creator>ZiggyFish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 08:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are a few things with mono, Moonlight and OOXML translators, that may make the patents invalid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are a few things with mono, Moonlight and OOXML translators, that may make the patents invalid.</p>
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		<title>By: self_liar</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/05/23/novell-pollutes-foss/comment-page-1/#comment-10531</link>
		<dc:creator>self_liar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 06:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok
Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok<br />
Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/05/23/novell-pollutes-foss/comment-page-1/#comment-10527</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 06:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is something close to this &lt;a href=&quot;http://tuxtraining.com/2008/05/17/make-your-distro-free-of-miguel-de-icazas-junk-code/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. For DEB/RPM, sort of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is something close to this <a href="http://tuxtraining.com/2008/05/17/make-your-distro-free-of-miguel-de-icazas-junk-code/" rel="nofollow">here</a>. For DEB/RPM, sort of.</p>
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		<title>By: self_liar</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/05/23/novell-pollutes-foss/comment-page-1/#comment-10523</link>
		<dc:creator>self_liar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 05:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is possible create a script to eliminate mono in distributions?
Please ,someone make one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is possible create a script to eliminate mono in distributions?<br />
Please ,someone make one.</p>
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