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	<title>Comments on: Germany and Denmark Show Signs of Endorsement of Appeals, Complaints Against ISO OOXML</title>
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		<title>By: Roy Bixler</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/06/03/denmark-germany-comeback/comment-page-1/#comment-11724</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Bixler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 22:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to Bob Sutor&#039;s blog, it looks like Denmark is not making a formal appeal:

http://www.sutor.com/newsite/blog-open/?p=2328

I would have been pleasantly surprised if they had done that, since they voted to &quot;Approve&quot; OOXML.  Instead, it&#039;s from the Danish Open Source Leverandørforeningen group -- not the same thing as thw national standards body itself.  Still, it&#039;s better than nothing.

Also, Sutor gives a link to the Groklaw story and I reproduce it here:

http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20080531134006167</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to Bob Sutor&#8217;s blog, it looks like Denmark is not making a formal appeal:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sutor.com/newsite/blog-open/?p=2328" rel="nofollow">http://www.sutor.com/newsite/blog-open/?p=2328</a></p>
<p>I would have been pleasantly surprised if they had done that, since they voted to &#8220;Approve&#8221; OOXML.  Instead, it&#8217;s from the Danish Open Source Leverandørforeningen group &#8212; not the same thing as thw national standards body itself.  Still, it&#8217;s better than nothing.</p>
<p>Also, Sutor gives a link to the Groklaw story and I reproduce it here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20080531134006167" rel="nofollow">http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20080531134006167</a></p>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/06/03/denmark-germany-comeback/comment-page-1/#comment-11713</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 18:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Same with Andy...

http://consortiuminfo.org/news/

&quot;[Heise report on German/DIN position on OOXML Appeal]
Heise Online June 3, 2008 ...The German standards institute, the Deutsches Institut für Normung (DIN), which despite reported voting irregularities, voted for OOXML, has yet to form its opinion on the appeals. A spokesperson told heise online that a majority of the steering committee of the IT and Applications Standardisation Committee (NIA) has recognised that there has been a serious breach of JTC 1 and ISO rules. He stated that this is also the position of the DIN as a whole. At the same time, however, the conclusion has been reached that the rules for the fast-track procedure need to be amended, as documents of the scope of ISO/IEC 29500 can hardly be dealt with within the current framework. According to the spokesperson, the DIN has initiated corresponding discussions in Geneva. ...Full Story&quot;

And now the Aha! moment (see PJ&#039;s comment):

http://www.groklaw.net/newsitems.php

    &quot;*   DIN spokesman says rules were not broken re OOXML (Germany)
    * 01:20PM June 06/03/08, 2008
    * [PJ: Note that Heise has changed the article earlier posted on News Picks to read the opposite of what it said before. It now reads like this:]

      The German standards institute, the Deutsches Institut für Normung (DIN), which despite reported voting irregularities, voted for OOXML, has yet to form its opinion on the appeals. A spokesperson told heise online that a majority of the steering committee of the IT and Applications Standardisation Committee (NIA) has recognised that there has been *no* serious breach of JTC 1 and ISO rules. He stated that this is also the position of the DIN as a whole. At the same time, however, the conclusion has been reached that the rules for the fast-track procedure need to be amended, as documents of the scope of ISO/IEC 29500 can hardly be dealt with within the current framework. According to the spokesperson, the DIN has initiated corresponding discussions in Geneva. - Heise &quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Same with Andy&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://consortiuminfo.org/news/" rel="nofollow">http://consortiuminfo.org/news/</a></p>
<p>&#8220;[Heise report on German/DIN position on OOXML Appeal]<br />
Heise Online June 3, 2008 &#8230;The German standards institute, the Deutsches Institut für Normung (DIN), which despite reported voting irregularities, voted for OOXML, has yet to form its opinion on the appeals. A spokesperson told heise online that a majority of the steering committee of the IT and Applications Standardisation Committee (NIA) has recognised that there has been a serious breach of JTC 1 and ISO rules. He stated that this is also the position of the DIN as a whole. At the same time, however, the conclusion has been reached that the rules for the fast-track procedure need to be amended, as documents of the scope of ISO/IEC 29500 can hardly be dealt with within the current framework. According to the spokesperson, the DIN has initiated corresponding discussions in Geneva. &#8230;Full Story&#8221;</p>
<p>And now the Aha! moment (see PJ&#8217;s comment):</p>
<p><a href="http://www.groklaw.net/newsitems.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.groklaw.net/newsitems.php</a></p>
<p>    &#8220;*   DIN spokesman says rules were not broken re OOXML (Germany)<br />
    * 01:20PM June 06/03/08, 2008<br />
    * [PJ: Note that Heise has changed the article earlier posted on News Picks to read the opposite of what it said before. It now reads like this:]</p>
<p>      The German standards institute, the Deutsches Institut für Normung (DIN), which despite reported voting irregularities, voted for OOXML, has yet to form its opinion on the appeals. A spokesperson told heise online that a majority of the steering committee of the IT and Applications Standardisation Committee (NIA) has recognised that there has been *no* serious breach of JTC 1 and ISO rules. He stated that this is also the position of the DIN as a whole. At the same time, however, the conclusion has been reached that the rules for the fast-track procedure need to be amended, as documents of the scope of ISO/IEC 29500 can hardly be dealt with within the current framework. According to the spokesperson, the DIN has initiated corresponding discussions in Geneva. &#8211; Heise &#8220;</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/06/03/denmark-germany-comeback/comment-page-1/#comment-11712</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 18:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh dear. I copied and pasted that. They possibly amended the text in Heise. I&#039;ll check.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh dear. I copied and pasted that. They possibly amended the text in Heise. I&#8217;ll check.</p>
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		<title>By: gggggg</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/06/03/denmark-germany-comeback/comment-page-1/#comment-11710</link>
		<dc:creator>gggggg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 18:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
A spokesperson told heise online that a majority of the steering committee of the IT and Applications Standardisation Committee (NIA) has recognised that there has &lt;b&gt;been no serious breach&lt;/b&gt; of JTC 1 and ISO rules. He stated that this is also the position of the DIN as a whole.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Your quote about DIN is wrong!

http://www.heise-online.co.uk/news/Brazil-and-India-lodge-appeal-against-ISO-standardisation-of-OOXML--/110845</description>
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A spokesperson told heise online that a majority of the steering committee of the IT and Applications Standardisation Committee (NIA) has recognised that there has <b>been no serious breach</b> of JTC 1 and ISO rules. He stated that this is also the position of the DIN as a whole.
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<p>Your quote about DIN is wrong!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.heise-online.co.uk/news/Brazil-and-India-lodge-appeal-against-ISO-standardisation-of-OOXML--/110845" rel="nofollow">http://www.heise-online.co.uk/news/Brazil-and-India-lodge-appeal-against-ISO-standardisation-of-OOXML&#8211;/110845</a></p>
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