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	<title>Comments on: Links 27/06/2008: Limo and Lips Joined by the Hips</title>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/06/27/limo-lips-forum/comment-page-1/#comment-13652</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 18:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Later on I&#039;ll post a log of today&#039;s IRC session. It&#039;s was discussed there yesterday as well. Let me just grab the gist of it:

&lt;schestowitz&gt; Eruaran, see this when you get the time: http://beranger.org/index.php?page=diary&amp;2008/06/26/08/17/19-kde4-aseigo-troy-the-users-and-t
&lt;kentma&gt; okay, will take a look
&lt;schestowitz&gt; Eruaran, more here http://www.ereslibre.es/?p=107 and here http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3534

They just need some privacy for development. It&#039;s all fine. Use 3.5.x for the time being.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Later on I&#8217;ll post a log of today&#8217;s IRC session. It&#8217;s was discussed there yesterday as well. Let me just grab the gist of it:</p>
<p>&lt;schestowitz> Eruaran, see this when you get the time: <a href="http://beranger.org/index.php?page=diary&#038;2008/06/26/08/17/19-kde4-aseigo-troy-the-users-and-t" rel="nofollow">http://beranger.org/index.php?page=diary&#038;2008/06/26/08/17/19-kde4-aseigo-troy-the-users-and-t</a><br />
&lt;kentma> okay, will take a look<br />
&lt;schestowitz> Eruaran, more here <a href="http://www.ereslibre.es/?p=107" rel="nofollow">http://www.ereslibre.es/?p=107</a> and here <a href="http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3534" rel="nofollow">http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3534</a></p>
<p>They just need some privacy for development. It&#8217;s all fine. Use 3.5.x for the time being.</p>
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		<title>By: Woods</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/06/27/limo-lips-forum/comment-page-1/#comment-13651</link>
		<dc:creator>Woods</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 18:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beranger has a summary (and analysis) of the situation ( http://www.beranger.org/index.php?page=diary&amp;2008/06/26/08/17/19-kde4-aseigo-troy-the-users-and-t )

Also see PlanetKDE ( http://planetkde.org/ ) mainly Troy Unrau&#039;s rather harsh rant ( http://troy-at-kde.livejournal.com/17753.html ) and Jason Harris&#039; rather ridiculous (unless he was being ironic) follow-up ( http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3535 )

As far as I can understand, Aaron basically burned out with the avalanche of poisonous commentary from forums and mailing lists (regarding KDE4 et Plasma)

(disclaimer: I haven&#039;t really followed it that much, hence the quick link-collection)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beranger has a summary (and analysis) of the situation ( <a href="http://www.beranger.org/index.php?page=diary&#038;2008/06/26/08/17/19-kde4-aseigo-troy-the-users-and-t" rel="nofollow">http://www.beranger.org/index.php?page=diary&#038;2008/06/26/08/17/19-kde4-aseigo-troy-the-users-and-t</a> )</p>
<p>Also see PlanetKDE ( <a href="http://planetkde.org/" rel="nofollow">http://planetkde.org/</a> ) mainly Troy Unrau&#8217;s rather harsh rant ( <a href="http://troy-at-kde.livejournal.com/17753.html" rel="nofollow">http://troy-at-kde.livejournal.com/17753.html</a> ) and Jason Harris&#8217; rather ridiculous (unless he was being ironic) follow-up ( <a href="http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3535" rel="nofollow">http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3535</a> )</p>
<p>As far as I can understand, Aaron basically burned out with the avalanche of poisonous commentary from forums and mailing lists (regarding KDE4 et Plasma)</p>
<p>(disclaimer: I haven&#8217;t really followed it that much, hence the quick link-collection)</p>
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		<title>By: robert enderle</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/06/27/limo-lips-forum/comment-page-1/#comment-13650</link>
		<dc:creator>robert enderle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 17:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you find out why Aaron Seigo&#039;s blog is now invitation only?

KDE is getting a lot of flack for being what it is not and Id love to hear his defense but he closed his blog.

KDE4.04 is not a beta but an alpha , a framework for the apps in 4.1.
I blame KDE for not doing a good job of explain this, distros for jumping the gun and saying 4 could replace the 3.5 version and the people in the media who should know better like SJVN for saying things like &#039;this was so bad I might not come back to KDE in a long time&#039;.

I find it strange that he would close his blog now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you find out why Aaron Seigo&#8217;s blog is now invitation only?</p>
<p>KDE is getting a lot of flack for being what it is not and Id love to hear his defense but he closed his blog.</p>
<p>KDE4.04 is not a beta but an alpha , a framework for the apps in 4.1.<br />
I blame KDE for not doing a good job of explain this, distros for jumping the gun and saying 4 could replace the 3.5 version and the people in the media who should know better like SJVN for saying things like &#8216;this was so bad I might not come back to KDE in a long time&#8217;.</p>
<p>I find it strange that he would close his blog now.</p>
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