Comments on: Reminder: Novell and Xandros Are Not Open Source Companies http://techrights.org/2008/07/12/mixed-novell-and-xandros/ Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those threatened by software freedom Tue, 07 Feb 2012 14:00:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2008/07/12/mixed-novell-and-xandros/comment-page-4/#comment-15061 Roy Schestowitz Mon, 14 Jul 2008 03:07:53 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/07/12/mixed-novell-and-xandros/#comment-15061 You came to this site only to make off-topic remarks (through a link) against something you dislike. The least you can do is be on topic. You came to this site only to make off-topic remarks (through a link) against something you dislike. The least you can do is be on topic.

]]> By: jeni http://techrights.org/2008/07/12/mixed-novell-and-xandros/comment-page-4/#comment-15020 jeni Sun, 13 Jul 2008 20:35:06 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/07/12/mixed-novell-and-xandros/#comment-15020 I do understand if you have a problem with a link in the body of a comment, but considering that now you are removing links from name URIs and that all it takes is for someone to disagree with a link to get it removed, it is censorship however you put it. And if anything, you should also consider that you are making the case now for all the points that you might be disagreeing with at the URL. Such as that Linux users are one-sided, controlling, and xenophobic. I do understand if you have a problem with a link in the body of a comment, but considering that now you are removing links from name URIs and that all it takes is for someone to disagree with a link to get it removed, it is censorship however you put it. And if anything, you should also consider that you are making the case now for all the points that you might be disagreeing with at the URL. Such as that Linux users are one-sided, controlling, and xenophobic.

]]> By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2008/07/12/mixed-novell-and-xandros/comment-page-4/#comment-15015 Roy Schestowitz Sun, 13 Jul 2008 20:12:34 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/07/12/mixed-novell-and-xandros/#comment-15015 I didn't censor it until a reader complained. I would hardly call the removal of an anti-Linux URL (possibly self-promotional) "censorship". we never delete comments in this Web site. I didn’t censor it until a reader complained. I would hardly call the removal of an anti-Linux URL (possibly self-promotional) “censorship”. we never delete comments in this Web site.

]]> By: jeni http://techrights.org/2008/07/12/mixed-novell-and-xandros/comment-page-3/#comment-15013 jeni Sun, 13 Jul 2008 20:06:23 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/07/12/mixed-novell-and-xandros/#comment-15013 Why are you so scared of that site? I thought it was okay to put anything in your name URI. But if you have to sensor it, I understand. Why are you so scared of that site? I thought it was okay to put anything in your name URI. But if you have to sensor it, I understand.

]]> By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2008/07/12/mixed-novell-and-xandros/comment-page-3/#comment-15006 Roy Schestowitz Sun, 13 Jul 2008 19:29:12 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/07/12/mixed-novell-and-xandros/#comment-15006 'Jeni', Now you're linking to that anti-Linux page from your comment hyperlink. I've had to strip it off again. This systematic slur is just trolling. We've never had to resort to this. ‘Jeni’,

Now you’re linking to that anti-Linux page from your comment hyperlink. I’ve had to strip it off again.

This systematic slur is just trolling. We’ve never had to resort to this.

]]> By: Roy Bixler http://techrights.org/2008/07/12/mixed-novell-and-xandros/comment-page-3/#comment-15005 Roy Bixler Sun, 13 Jul 2008 18:21:23 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/07/12/mixed-novell-and-xandros/#comment-15005 @Lol: Red Hat is complying with the GPL, so they are a provider of free software. If you don't like their prices, then you can use CentOS. If you don't like Red Hat's packages, then there are many other distributions out there. @Lol:

Red Hat is complying with the GPL, so they are a provider of free software. If you don’t like their prices, then you can use CentOS. If you don’t like Red Hat’s packages, then there are many other distributions out there.

]]> By: jeni http://techrights.org/2008/07/12/mixed-novell-and-xandros/comment-page-3/#comment-14996 jeni Sun, 13 Jul 2008 17:13:24 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/07/12/mixed-novell-and-xandros/#comment-14996 Sorry about that Linux site, I didn’t know people would be so against it. I just thought it might be interesting because it does hold some valid points. Sorry about that Linux site, I didn’t know people would be so against it. I just thought it might be interesting because it does hold some valid points.

]]> By: Lol http://techrights.org/2008/07/12/mixed-novell-and-xandros/comment-page-3/#comment-14978 Lol Sun, 13 Jul 2008 16:01:08 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/07/12/mixed-novell-and-xandros/#comment-14978 RHEL is not a free software. You cant freely share it with others. You are locked in with Redhat and you have to pay them every year to use it. Its a licensed software. Milking the GNU...nothing new...they are bit evil on this side :D RHEL is not a free software. You cant freely share it with others. You are locked in with Redhat and you have to pay them every year to use it. Its a licensed software.

Milking the GNU…nothing new…they are bit evil on this side :D

]]> By: Lol http://techrights.org/2008/07/12/mixed-novell-and-xandros/comment-page-2/#comment-14977 Lol Sun, 13 Jul 2008 15:37:06 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/07/12/mixed-novell-and-xandros/#comment-14977 you need to get a *license* copy of RHEL you need to get all sort wierd licenses from them for 2/4/8/16 cpus. you have to pay them every year to use free software if you dont - you are a pirate - you are doing illegal things by using RHEL without paying them their *licensing* money every year we are all *freetards* check their RHEL pricing page. you get the idea. initially it was only support money, now it has turned into license copy of linux and free software. you need to get a *license* copy of RHEL

you need to get all sort wierd licenses from them for 2/4/8/16 cpus.

you have to pay them every year to use free software

if you dont – you are a pirate – you are doing illegal things by using RHEL without paying them their *licensing* money every year

we are all *freetards*

check their RHEL pricing page. you get the idea.

initially it was only support money, now it has turned into license copy of linux and free software.

]]> By: Lol http://techrights.org/2008/07/12/mixed-novell-and-xandros/comment-page-2/#comment-14976 Lol Sun, 13 Jul 2008 15:27:09 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/07/12/mixed-novell-and-xandros/#comment-14976 thats the ugly side of Redhat they have started erecting barrier in the name of enterprise linux thats the ugly side of Redhat

they have started erecting barrier in the name of enterprise linux

]]> By: Lol http://techrights.org/2008/07/12/mixed-novell-and-xandros/comment-page-2/#comment-14975 Lol Sun, 13 Jul 2008 15:23:58 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/07/12/mixed-novell-and-xandros/#comment-14975 In RMS terms "started putting walls around their software..." In RMS terms “started putting walls around their software…”

]]> By: Lol http://techrights.org/2008/07/12/mixed-novell-and-xandros/comment-page-2/#comment-14974 Lol Sun, 13 Jul 2008 15:20:47 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/07/12/mixed-novell-and-xandros/#comment-14974 Remember there use to be only one Redhat Linux and they used to give it away for free and only charge for support. I used to get them with magazines cds. Now they have closed it, labeled it so called enterprise linux ...only provided the bare minimum src rpms to comply with GPL... Remember there use to be only one Redhat Linux and they used to give it away for free and only charge for support. I used to get them with magazines cds.

Now they have closed it, labeled it so called enterprise linux …only provided the bare minimum src rpms to comply with GPL…

]]> By: Lol http://techrights.org/2008/07/12/mixed-novell-and-xandros/comment-page-2/#comment-14973 Lol Sun, 13 Jul 2008 15:09:55 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/07/12/mixed-novell-and-xandros/#comment-14973 Feodra : Package kit sucks Eclipse sucks - it wont install a lot of plugins due to wrong permission (long story why) Check beranger for their problems with RHEL Redhat is just milking the term Enterprise Linux. FUD. they want people to get used to some paid very of linux which comes with some support from a big name vendor. the so called unpaid linux is bad. you need to have he costly enterprise linux. They only release the bare minimum scr rpms since they have to. I gave up on fedora or anything redhat. I once install Linux for a close friends and was explaining to him about the free software. So he ask me one question. If the software is free then they must be making <b>money in support.</b> So you need to make sure that people come to you for support. And how to do that.... Commercial linux companies are going to make people pay either this way or that... Feodra :
Package kit sucks
Eclipse sucks – it wont install a lot of plugins due to wrong permission (long story why)
Check beranger for their problems with RHEL

Redhat is just milking the term Enterprise Linux. FUD. they want people to get used to some paid very of linux which comes with some support from a big name vendor. the so called unpaid linux is bad. you need to have he costly enterprise linux.

They only release the bare minimum scr rpms since they have to.

I gave up on fedora or anything redhat.

I once install Linux for a close friends and was explaining to him about the free software. So he ask me one question. If the software is free then they must be making money in support. So you need to make sure that people come to you for support. And how to do that….

Commercial linux companies are going to make people pay either this way or that…

]]> By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2008/07/12/mixed-novell-and-xandros/comment-page-1/#comment-14944 Roy Schestowitz Sun, 13 Jul 2008 07:17:55 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/07/12/mixed-novell-and-xandros/#comment-14944 @ "Lol", Can you try to support this with evidence? I am genuinely interested. Otherwise, I don't believe this to be true. Don't forget that Red Hat has competition, so if there's a gap, someone will make better GUIs and steal Red Hat's lunch. @ “Lol”,

Can you try to support this with evidence? I am genuinely interested. Otherwise, I don’t believe this to be true. Don’t forget that Red Hat has competition, so if there’s a gap, someone will make better GUIs and steal Red Hat’s lunch.

]]> By: Lol http://techrights.org/2008/07/12/mixed-novell-and-xandros/comment-page-1/#comment-14942 Lol Sun, 13 Jul 2008 07:08:47 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/07/12/mixed-novell-and-xandros/#comment-14942 apart from the trolls. what i have seen is companies like redhat have huge amount of money coming in as support revenues are making their software hard to use - so that people are forced to get support contracts from them. how badly broken redhat is...and they dont intend to make it any better...they are milking the system in support revenues. apart from the trolls. what i have seen is companies like redhat have huge amount of money coming in as support revenues are making their software hard to use – so that people are forced to get support contracts from them.

how badly broken redhat is…and they dont intend to make it any better…they are milking the system in support revenues.

]]> By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2008/07/12/mixed-novell-and-xandros/comment-page-1/#comment-14939 Roy Schestowitz Sun, 13 Jul 2008 06:35:52 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/07/12/mixed-novell-and-xandros/#comment-14939 Marcelino, I didn't folllow the link, so thanks for warning me. The 'jeni" character left several such comments. I'll strip the URL. In any event, see this: http://pogue.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/01/25/a-wake-up-call-to-microsofts-pr-team/ "Then in 2002, Microsoft’s Web site featured a testimonial called “Confessions of a Mac to PC Convert,” a first-person account by an attractive brunette “freelance writer” about how she had fallen in love with Windows XP. "Unfortunately, a Slashdot member discovered that the identical photo was available for rent from the stock-photo libraries of GettyImages.com. Sure enough: Microsoft had hired a PR firm to write the testimonial. The “switcher” did not actually exist." Marcelino, I didn’t folllow the link, so thanks for warning me. The ‘jeni” character left several such comments. I’ll strip the URL.

In any event, see this:

http://pogue.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/01/25/a-wake-up-call-to-microsofts-pr-team/

“Then in 2002, Microsoft’s Web site featured a testimonial called “Confessions of a Mac to PC Convert,” a first-person account by an attractive brunette “freelance writer” about how she had fallen in love with Windows XP.

“Unfortunately, a Slashdot member discovered that the identical photo was available for rent from the stock-photo libraries of GettyImages.com. Sure enough: Microsoft had hired a PR firm to write the testimonial. The “switcher” did not actually exist.”

]]> By: Marcelino http://techrights.org/2008/07/12/mixed-novell-and-xandros/comment-page-1/#comment-14910 Marcelino Sun, 13 Jul 2008 04:13:41 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/07/12/mixed-novell-and-xandros/#comment-14910 I have come across too many "user" posting about that joke website "the truth about Linux". The site is so full of down right wrong statements and lies that it must be Microsoft PR site pretending to be user site....and the posting from someone name "jeni" must really be Microsoft PR person. I read several months ago that Microsoft was hiring "community person" to promote Microsoft software on websites and I guess they found the person(s)....wonder how much the position pays? I have come across too many “user” posting about that joke website “the truth about Linux”. The site is so full of down right wrong statements and lies that it must be Microsoft PR site pretending to be user site….and the posting from someone name “jeni” must really be Microsoft PR person. I read several months ago that Microsoft was hiring “community person” to promote Microsoft software on websites and I guess they found the person(s)….wonder how much the position pays?

]]> By: jeni http://techrights.org/2008/07/12/mixed-novell-and-xandros/comment-page-1/#comment-14894 jeni Sat, 12 Jul 2008 14:59:46 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/07/12/mixed-novell-and-xandros/#comment-14894 I support Linux 100% but I feel that people should make an objective decision for themselves after reading <a href="" rel="nofollow">The Truth about Linux</a>. <font color="#ff0000"><b>Note</b>: troll comment. URL to anti-Linux site omitted. </font> I support Linux 100% but I feel that people should make an objective decision for themselves after reading The Truth about Linux.

Note: troll comment. URL to anti-Linux site omitted.

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