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	<title>Comments on: Microsoft Hates Apache, Wanted to Sue It, Now Wants to Ruin It</title>
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		<title>By: pcolon</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/07/27/apache-eee-exploitation-theory/comment-page-1/#comment-42413</link>
		<dc:creator>pcolon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 10:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;that may not be perfect, but generally everything built for it ‘just works’.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Why then would Microsoft need the Mojave advertisements?
Why haven&#039;t they fixed Vista? It&#039;s been 2 years and all you hear is &quot;Windows 7&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>that may not be perfect, but generally everything built for it ‘just works’.</p></blockquote>
<p>Why then would Microsoft need the Mojave advertisements?<br />
Why haven&#8217;t they fixed Vista? It&#8217;s been 2 years and all you hear is &#8220;Windows 7&#8243;</p>
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		<title>By: Allan Frisby</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/07/27/apache-eee-exploitation-theory/comment-page-1/#comment-42383</link>
		<dc:creator>Allan Frisby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 09:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This sounds kinda kooky - I don&#039;t disagree with anything you&#039;re saying, but you have to accept that, businesses, as they have been doing for thousands of years normally try to uphold their interests, whichever way possible. 

This just reads like a conspiracy nut&#039;s rambling about someone what may have wronged them in the past. The whole &#039;Microsoft is evil&#039; is even more tired - there&#039;s many reasons why they hold a 90% share in world desktops, the one that sticks out the most is that manufacturers and corporations don&#039;t want to roll out organic, ever changing, open-source applications. They would prefer to pay an up-front fee for something that may not be perfect, but generally everything built for it &#039;just works&#039;.

Just something to think about. Also, I am a 100% linux user, fyi. Not because I have something against Microsoft, but because it doesn&#039;t offer me anything I can&#039;t figure out for myself on linux.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sounds kinda kooky &#8211; I don&#8217;t disagree with anything you&#8217;re saying, but you have to accept that, businesses, as they have been doing for thousands of years normally try to uphold their interests, whichever way possible. </p>
<p>This just reads like a conspiracy nut&#8217;s rambling about someone what may have wronged them in the past. The whole &#8216;Microsoft is evil&#8217; is even more tired &#8211; there&#8217;s many reasons why they hold a 90% share in world desktops, the one that sticks out the most is that manufacturers and corporations don&#8217;t want to roll out organic, ever changing, open-source applications. They would prefer to pay an up-front fee for something that may not be perfect, but generally everything built for it &#8216;just works&#8217;.</p>
<p>Just something to think about. Also, I am a 100% linux user, fyi. Not because I have something against Microsoft, but because it doesn&#8217;t offer me anything I can&#8217;t figure out for myself on linux.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/07/27/apache-eee-exploitation-theory/comment-page-1/#comment-17083</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aaron, I never suggested it was about committal of code. I don&#039;t think it is. Microsoft doesn&#039;t commit to the Free Desktop either, but it paid a lot of money to Novell and it has been getting its money&#039;s worth.

You know, Microsoft has also been sending the Firefox team at Mozilla some cakes and invited them to Redmond to work on Windows compatibility (at the expense of time spent on other platforms). And then there&#039;s Zend.

People live and learn. I&#039;ve seen Microsoft back-stabbing partners time after time after time. It&#039;s not a charity and it&#039;s not even ethical.

I received this E-mail from a friend a few hours ago (partly related to this):

&lt;hr /&gt;

Basically, SCO was baseless and is kept alive by MS funding and MS party activists.  However, I&#039;m sure at some point it became apparent that it could work if there were real licensing issues to be found.  So: a short &quot;truce&quot; with Novell to spend 5 years frantically injecting licensed technology into every possible project.  e.g. GNOME, Ubuntu

Apache has been the major obstacle for following through on the strategy outlined in the &quot;Halloween Documents&quot;  It keeps TCP/IP and HTTP on top. However, I notice that more and more MS shops are quietly (secretly) pulling the plug on other standards like DNS, at least in-house and behind the smoke screen of a firewall and &#039;security&#039;.

One thing that just occurs to me is that this distracts from the catastrophic bank failures in Europe induced by ideologs shoehorning MS Sharepoint into banking without regard even to basic phases of software engineering or product evaluation.  Mismanagement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaron, I never suggested it was about committal of code. I don&#8217;t think it is. Microsoft doesn&#8217;t commit to the Free Desktop either, but it paid a lot of money to Novell and it has been getting its money&#8217;s worth.</p>
<p>You know, Microsoft has also been sending the Firefox team at Mozilla some cakes and invited them to Redmond to work on Windows compatibility (at the expense of time spent on other platforms). And then there&#8217;s Zend.</p>
<p>People live and learn. I&#8217;ve seen Microsoft back-stabbing partners time after time after time. It&#8217;s not a charity and it&#8217;s not even ethical.</p>
<p>I received this E-mail from a friend a few hours ago (partly related to this):</p>
<hr />
<p>Basically, SCO was baseless and is kept alive by MS funding and MS party activists.  However, I&#8217;m sure at some point it became apparent that it could work if there were real licensing issues to be found.  So: a short &#8220;truce&#8221; with Novell to spend 5 years frantically injecting licensed technology into every possible project.  e.g. GNOME, Ubuntu</p>
<p>Apache has been the major obstacle for following through on the strategy outlined in the &#8220;Halloween Documents&#8221;  It keeps TCP/IP and HTTP on top. However, I notice that more and more MS shops are quietly (secretly) pulling the plug on other standards like DNS, at least in-house and behind the smoke screen of a firewall and &#8216;security&#8217;.</p>
<p>One thing that just occurs to me is that this distracts from the catastrophic bank failures in Europe induced by ideologs shoehorning MS Sharepoint into banking without regard even to basic phases of software engineering or product evaluation.  Mismanagement.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Farr</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/07/27/apache-eee-exploitation-theory/comment-page-1/#comment-17082</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Farr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, you could always just, I dont&#039; know, maybe go ask some of the Apache committers what&#039;s going on rather than say, make stuff up.  This is getting ridiculous.

First off, Microsoft could ship with Apache software _before_ the sponsorship.  It&#039;s already open source.  They get _nothing_ from the sponsorship money that helps them get the web server running on Windows, so I don&#039;t see this line of thinking working out.

The linked article is clearly just speculation and not even good speculation.  You people need to work harder on your conspiracy theories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, you could always just, I dont&#8217; know, maybe go ask some of the Apache committers what&#8217;s going on rather than say, make stuff up.  This is getting ridiculous.</p>
<p>First off, Microsoft could ship with Apache software _before_ the sponsorship.  It&#8217;s already open source.  They get _nothing_ from the sponsorship money that helps them get the web server running on Windows, so I don&#8217;t see this line of thinking working out.</p>
<p>The linked article is clearly just speculation and not even good speculation.  You people need to work harder on your conspiracy theories.</p>
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		<title>By: Victor Soliz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/07/27/apache-eee-exploitation-theory/comment-page-1/#comment-17075</link>
		<dc:creator>Victor Soliz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 12:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think, this is all about DRM and not about suing Apache, MS might sue Apache, one day but it will not be in relation to this. It is quite certain the priority here is not (MS&#039;) imaginary property else they wouldn&#039;t have accepted the L-GPL. You can say this is for a bigger, much more evil project...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think, this is all about DRM and not about suing Apache, MS might sue Apache, one day but it will not be in relation to this. It is quite certain the priority here is not (MS&#8217;) imaginary property else they wouldn&#8217;t have accepted the L-GPL. You can say this is for a bigger, much more evil project&#8230;</p>
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