Comments on: Is Microsoft ‘Hijacking’ NComputing in Order to Tap Children? http://techrights.org/2008/10/16/ncomputing-in-india/ Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those threatened by software freedom Tue, 07 Feb 2012 14:00:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jose_X http://techrights.org/2008/10/16/ncomputing-in-india/comment-page-3/#comment-28571 Jose_X Sun, 19 Oct 2008 02:32:53 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/10/16/ncomputing-in-india/#comment-28571 More details on Russia's move to go only Linux in its schools. http://reddevil62-techhead.blogspot.com/2008/10/russias-open-source-revolution.html The current president of Russia made this decision when was Deputy Prime Minister not long ago. Pilots are under way and goal is to have made full transition for whole country by sometime in 2010. The spark that set this off was when just last year a school headmaster was arrested for using unlicensed MSware (Putin interfered on his behalf to avoid years in jail). The decision to go Linux in all Russian schools was to fulfill legal commitments but avoid giving Microsoft zillions of dollars. ALT Linux seems to be playing a central role in this effort, and its roots are with Russian FOSS projects (so ALT Linux wasn't an accident or luck). More details on Russia’s move to go only Linux in its schools.

http://reddevil62-techhead.blogspot.com/2008/10/russias-open-source-revolution.html

The current president of Russia made this decision when was Deputy Prime Minister not long ago.

Pilots are under way and goal is to have made full transition for whole country by sometime in 2010.

The spark that set this off was when just last year a school headmaster was arrested for using unlicensed MSware (Putin interfered on his behalf to avoid years in jail). The decision to go Linux in all Russian schools was to fulfill legal commitments but avoid giving Microsoft zillions of dollars.

ALT Linux seems to be playing a central role in this effort, and its roots are with Russian FOSS projects (so ALT Linux wasn’t an accident or luck).

]]> By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2008/10/16/ncomputing-in-india/comment-page-2/#comment-28001 Roy Schestowitz Thu, 16 Oct 2008 22:31:03 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/10/16/ncomputing-in-india/#comment-28001 http://www.itwire.com/content/view/17254/1090/ "<em>Dukker says about 40 per cent of NComputing’s customers have chosen Linux (the company uses Ubuntu, Debian, Fedora or SuSE)</em>" http://www.itwire.com/content/view/17254/1090/

“Dukker says about 40 per cent of NComputing’s customers have chosen Linux (the company uses Ubuntu, Debian, Fedora or SuSE)“

]]> By: DOUGman http://techrights.org/2008/10/16/ncomputing-in-india/comment-page-2/#comment-28000 DOUGman Thu, 16 Oct 2008 22:28:50 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/10/16/ncomputing-in-india/#comment-28000 I could never get Linux to work properly with the Ncomputing products, with XP yes, all does is offer terminal services from one machine to others to use. Kinda flaky, but it does work. I have done the same thing using XP, Server 2003, Citrix and NoMachine NX. D. I could never get Linux to work properly with the Ncomputing products, with XP yes, all does is offer terminal services from one machine to others to use. Kinda flaky, but it does work.

I have done the same thing using XP, Server 2003, Citrix and NoMachine NX.

D.

]]> By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2008/10/16/ncomputing-in-india/comment-page-2/#comment-27905 Roy Schestowitz Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:25:04 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/10/16/ncomputing-in-india/#comment-27905 You can find some 'peripheral' stories by <a href="http://www.google.com/search?num=50&hl=en&c2coff=1&q=site%3Aboycottnovell.com+nigeria&btnG=Search" rel="nofollow">searching the archives and following external links</a>. We really need to find better ways to organise all that stuff. You can find some ‘peripheral’ stories by searching the archives and following external links. We really need to find better ways to organise all that stuff.

]]> By: Jose_X http://techrights.org/2008/10/16/ncomputing-in-india/comment-page-2/#comment-27901 Jose_X Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:18:44 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/10/16/ncomputing-in-india/#comment-27901 I followed the link at the top on OLPC and even a comment link at that page about dumping but did not see any story about the Nigeria Mandriva incident (a decision to install XP over Mandriva on a Classmate PC deployment in Nigeria got reversed for the time being). http://www.google.com/search?q=classmate+mandriva+nigeria+microsoft&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a I thought I had read somewhere that explicit or implicit pressure from the EU may have caused Microsoft to "back down". [The first story in the google search credits an unnamed source from Nigeria's gov for upsetting the XP installation.] Perhaps in this NComputing case (as well?) antitrust pressure can lead to a reversal. I followed the link at the top on OLPC and even a comment link at that page about dumping but did not see any story about the Nigeria Mandriva incident (a decision to install XP over Mandriva on a Classmate PC deployment in Nigeria got reversed for the time being).

http://www.google.com/search?q=classmate+mandriva+nigeria+microsoft&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

I thought I had read somewhere that explicit or implicit pressure from the EU may have caused Microsoft to “back down”. [The first story in the google search credits an unnamed source from Nigeria's gov for upsetting the XP installation.]

Perhaps in this NComputing case (as well?) antitrust pressure can lead to a reversal.

]]> By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2008/10/16/ncomputing-in-india/comment-page-2/#comment-27899 Roy Schestowitz Thu, 16 Oct 2008 13:44:43 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/10/16/ncomputing-in-india/#comment-27899 Yes, but let's discuss the content, not the layout. Indeed, as cited at the top, Microsoft is working with Intel to harm adoption of GNU/Linux in Russian schools. That's just the tip of the iceberg we explore here. Yes, but let’s discuss the content, not the layout.

Indeed, as cited at the top, Microsoft is working with Intel to harm adoption of GNU/Linux in Russian schools. That’s just the tip of the iceberg we explore here.

]]> By: Jose_X http://techrights.org/2008/10/16/ncomputing-in-india/comment-page-1/#comment-27898 Jose_X Thu, 16 Oct 2008 13:38:13 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/10/16/ncomputing-in-india/#comment-27898 [offtopic] Are we talking about Mozilla CSS extensions? Is this the same Mozilla that is an open source organization and not a monopolist? I'm sure this has some bearing here. [offtopic] Are we talking about Mozilla CSS extensions? Is this the same Mozilla that is an open source organization and not a monopolist? I’m sure this has some bearing here.

]]> By: Jose_X http://techrights.org/2008/10/16/ncomputing-in-india/comment-page-1/#comment-27897 Jose_X Thu, 16 Oct 2008 13:33:02 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/10/16/ncomputing-in-india/#comment-27897 Some very interesting stories here (most old news in part). In some cases, deep Microsoft discounts were rejected, but, for example, is Russia really likely to go through with full Linux? http://hehe2.net/advocacy/how-linux-helped-5-poverty-stricken-governments/ These all could set/extend horrible precedents from Microsoft pov. Watch the videos. >> Also, Extremadura is one of the poorest regions in the EU, and the cost of proprietary software needed to run the network was just too much to bear. So the government decided to use free software; in the beginning due to its low cost, but soon they realized that free software is a powerful tool to provide “technological independence” and avoid reliance on global conglomerates and monopolies. >> Russia plans to migrate ALL migrate all their schools to Linux! >> The education minister of the state MA Baby was quoted saying “Free software guru Richard Stallman’s visit last week had nudged the schools to discard the proprietary software altogether, Stallman has inspired Kerala’s transition to free software on the lines of an exciting model of a Spanish province, which did the same.” [Philippines] >> The project dragged on for four to five months to a point where Microsoft matched the price by offering Windows XP for $US20 a copy and throwing in Office for $US30, but we still came out cheaper. Microsoft was also providing free training to high school teachers Some very interesting stories here (most old news in part). In some cases, deep Microsoft discounts were rejected, but, for example, is Russia really likely to go through with full Linux?
http://hehe2.net/advocacy/how-linux-helped-5-poverty-stricken-governments/

These all could set/extend horrible precedents from Microsoft pov.

Watch the videos.

>> Also, Extremadura is one of the poorest regions in the EU, and the cost of proprietary software needed to run the network was just too much to bear. So the government decided to use free software; in the beginning due to its low cost, but soon they realized that free software is a powerful tool to provide “technological independence” and avoid reliance on global conglomerates and monopolies.

>> Russia plans to migrate ALL migrate all their schools to Linux!

>> The education minister of the state MA Baby was quoted saying “Free software guru Richard Stallman’s visit last week had nudged the schools to discard the proprietary software altogether, Stallman has inspired Kerala’s transition to free software on the lines of an exciting model of a Spanish province, which did the same.”

[Philippines] >> The project dragged on for four to five months to a point where Microsoft matched the price by offering Windows XP for $US20 a copy and throwing in Office for $US30, but we still came out cheaper. Microsoft was also providing free training to high school teachers

]]> By: AlexH http://techrights.org/2008/10/16/ncomputing-in-india/comment-page-1/#comment-27893 AlexH Thu, 16 Oct 2008 13:16:14 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/10/16/ncomputing-in-india/#comment-27893 You would rather I dig out the old article and comment there? You would rather I dig out the old article and comment there?

]]> By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2008/10/16/ncomputing-in-india/comment-page-1/#comment-27884 Roy Schestowitz Thu, 16 Oct 2008 13:11:25 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/10/16/ncomputing-in-india/#comment-27884 I was hoping readers would stick to the topic. :-) I was hoping readers would stick to the topic. :-)

]]> By: AlexH http://techrights.org/2008/10/16/ncomputing-in-india/comment-page-1/#comment-27881 AlexH Thu, 16 Oct 2008 13:07:57 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/10/16/ncomputing-in-india/#comment-27881 I thought this site was against CSS vendor extensions? I thought this site was against CSS vendor extensions?

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