| PetoKraus |
right, time to sleep. Nice chat today. See you tomorrow |
Nov 24 00:02 |
| MinceR |
gn |
Nov 24 00:03 |
| Eruaran |
nite |
Nov 24 00:03 |
| *schestowitz atches up with http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=… (almost 400 comments) |
Nov 24 00:04 |
| schestowitz |
g |
Nov 24 00:04 |
| schestowitz |
n |
Nov 24 00:04 |
| schestowitz |
trmanco: Bruno’s letter got promoted: http://www.fsdaily.com/Opposition/Open_Letter… |
Nov 24 00:11 |
| schestowitz |
Earlier I made some remark about Obama and privacy, so this new remark from RMS is interesting: http://www.stallman.org/archives/2008-sep-d…) “If phone company employes were not punished for checking who Obama called, can you trust them not to check (and tell) who you call?” |
Nov 24 00:13 |
| schestowitz |
Hollywood Goes to War < http://www.prwatch.org/node/7948 > |
Nov 24 00:15 |
| Eruaran |
Stop posting links Roy ! I’m not getting any work done !  |
Nov 24 00:17 |
| schestowitz |
Okay, I’ll go to USENET |
Nov 24 00:20 |
| Eruaran |
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Nov 24 00:21 |
| *schestowitz a bit bored |
Nov 24 00:21 |
| Eruaran |
usenet is just asking for trouble |
Nov 24 00:22 |
| schestowitz |
Trouble resolves boredom |
Nov 24 00:22 |
| Eruaran |
heh |
Nov 24 00:22 |
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Nov 24 00:24 |
| twitter |
Eruaran, print to pdf send results to printer. |
Nov 24 00:25 |
| Eruaran |
I do |
Nov 24 00:26 |
| twitter |
should work then. apt-get remove excel |
Nov 24 00:26 |
| Eruaran |
hehe |
Nov 24 00:26 |
| Eruaran |
no can do I’m on Winblowz here at work atm |
Nov 24 00:26 |
| Eruaran |
calc is more productive |
Nov 24 00:27 |
| twitter |
I feel your pain |
Nov 24 00:27 |
| twitter |
gnumeric is even nicer |
Nov 24 00:28 |
| twitter |
for routine graphing, go with gnuplot |
Nov 24 00:28 |
| Eruaran |
that reminds me |
Nov 24 00:28 |
| twitter |
that works with winblows, I think |
Nov 24 00:28 |
| *schestowitz hasn’t touched Excel for 6 years |
Nov 24 00:28 |
| Eruaran |
gotta give the new koffice a whirl |
Nov 24 00:28 |
| schestowitz |
I had to produce some Gantt chart in a public cluster |
Nov 24 00:29 |
| twitter |
KDE seems to have a library for doing that. There’s planner and opensched to do it as well. Have not needed that in 7 years. |
Nov 24 00:32 |
| twitter |
dinner time. |
Nov 24 00:32 |
| twitter |
Glad you enjoyed Matt, Roy. Those videos are very hopeful and beautiful things. It’s like the whole world can live in peace and be happy. |
Nov 24 00:33 |
| Eruaran |
Someone mentioned that KOffice looks like iWork… I had a look and yes, it does resemble iWork |
Nov 24 00:33 |
| schestowitz |
But it supports ODF, not MOOX |
Nov 24 00:37 |
| Eruaran |
ODF I like |
Nov 24 00:37 |
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| *Eruaran lurks |
Nov 24 01:22 |
| schestowitz |
2am, bed time… |
Nov 24 01:42 |
| Eruaran |
nite |
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Nov 24 07:50 |
| schestowitz |
“The billionaire bankers bailout was not well received in the US by Joe Sixpack. Despite a 99 to 1 “vote no!” constituent response, the bailout went forward. That’s the US. ” < http://technocrat.net/d/2… > |
Nov 24 08:00 |
| kentma1 |
That’s because the official line on government intervention is a tiny little bit different to the real one… |
Nov 24 08:01 |
| schestowitz |
It’s better to let the ‘small people’ pay so that ‘bug people’ can carry on hoarding and collect big bonuses. |
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Nov 24 08:44 |
| schestowitz |
Nader on socialism for the rich (AKA bailout): http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=iVDPxVy7h38 |
Nov 24 08:47 |
| MinceR |
geekings |
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Nov 24 08:53 |
| schestowitz |
Manufactured consent (for Vista 7): http://news.softpedia.com/news/Microsoft-Good-… |
Nov 24 09:26 |
| schestowitz |
The Vole keeps harming Y! Yahoo Sells Kelkoo To Private-Equity Firm < http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articl… > ; |
Nov 24 09:42 |
| schestowitz |
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1080… |
Nov 24 09:42 |
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Nov 24 09:42 |
| schestowitz |
Ballmer deposition before Xmas: http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/micros… http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/154397/ju… http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/11/23/microso… |
Nov 24 09:45 |
| PetoKraus |
bloody hell, i don’t even wanna know what’s my temperature. Good thing I don’t have thermometer |
Nov 24 09:46 |
| PetoKraus |
what does “deposition” mean? |
Nov 24 09:46 |
| schestowitz |
Like interrogation. |
Nov 24 09:47 |
| schestowitz |
Hard questions for discovery (legal term) |
Nov 24 09:47 |
| PetoKraus |
aha |
Nov 24 09:47 |
| PetoKraus |
i thought it means he’d be sacked. |
Nov 24 09:47 |
| schestowitz |
Who would replace him? The company can’t live without criminal behaviour. They need an aggressive crook in charge. |
Nov 24 09:51 |
| PetoKraus |
neighborlee: since the case is in seattle, and i guess the courts are public – are you gonna go? |
Nov 24 09:51 |
| schestowitz |
neighborlee is in Iowa, no? |
Nov 24 09:51 |
| PetoKraus |
i thought he’s in Wa |
Nov 24 09:51 |
| PetoKraus |
i wanted to go to X summit in Edinburgh |
Nov 24 09:52 |
| PetoKraus |
well, i dunno if it was public, but i would find out if i was in Scotland at that time |
Nov 24 09:52 |
| schestowitz |
Judge orders Microsoft CEO to testify in lawsuit < http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financia… > |
Nov 24 09:52 |
| schestowitz |
PetoKraus: the one in the zoo? |
Nov 24 09:52 |
| PetoKraus |
yup |
Nov 24 09:53 |
| schestowitz |
Monkey boy wanted to go there too.  |
Nov 24 09:53 |
| PetoKraus |
oh, did he |
Nov 24 09:53 |
| schestowitz |
Interesting: seems like a Microsoft CEO just jumped ship: Microsoft appoints Leung as Greater China CEO < http://www.telecom.paper.nl/news/ar… > |
Nov 24 09:54 |
| schestowitz |
Did the previous one leave then? Probably. They already lost a China boss less than a year ago… he went to NBA. |
Nov 24 09:55 |
| PetoKraus |
only available to subscribers… could you print it to pdf, or pastebin? |
Nov 24 09:55 |
| schestowitz |
Judge orders Ballmer to testify < http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business… > |
Nov 24 09:56 |
| schestowitz |
PetoKraus: I can’t read it either. I wish I could |
Nov 24 09:56 |
| PetoKraus |
aha hmm |
Nov 24 09:57 |
| schestowitz |
Damn. I can’t STAND Barron’s. Darn Microsoft boosting junk: http://online.barrons.com/article/SB12273123… |
Nov 24 09:57 |
| schestowitz |
Other publications accused Barron’s of being some kind of a lousy Microsoft booster. Fool is the same. |
Nov 24 09:57 |
| schestowitz |
If only I could find this video I watched this morning about the old press the new press, which is almost always owned by corporations to serve them |
Nov 24 09:58 |
| PetoKraus |
i don’t want to move outta my bed :/ |
Nov 24 09:58 |
| schestowitz |
*LOL* http://apcmag.com/Content.aspx?id=3203 |
Nov 24 09:59 |
| schestowitz |
So that’s what SteveB is doing when he doesn’t use his schedule (an Excel spreadsheet, no kidding!) |
Nov 24 10:00 |
| schestowitz |
*LOL* Microsoft has _already_ laid off people and now this thing says “Microsoft Exec Says No Layoffs Coming” < http://www.thestreet.com/story/1044… > |
Nov 24 10:02 |
| schestowitz |
http://www.google.com/search?sou… Check out #1 and #2 results |
Nov 24 10:04 |
| schestowitz |
The Gates Fundation [sic] does goes things like saving… errr… automobiles? http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsN… ( Gates raises stake in dealership AutoNation ) |
Nov 24 10:07 |
| schestowitz |
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122… ( GameStop Net Falls as Growth Slows ) |
Nov 24 10:21 |
| schestowitz |
In Hindsight: ‘Extreme pessimism’ in the tech industry: Who could blame us? < http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_1… >. Black Friday starts in the US within hours |
Nov 24 10:23 |
| schestowitz |
Very important future ref: http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php… “”I can’t be more clear than to say you not only let us down by reneging on your commitment to stand behind the [device driver model] requirement, you have demonstrated a complete lack of commitment to HP as a strategic partner and cost us a lot of money in the process,” said one e-mail from Richard Walker, the |
Nov 24 10:24 |
| schestowitz |
senior vice president of HP’s consumer business unit, to Jim Allchin and Kevin Johnson.” |
Nov 24 10:24 |
| MinceR |
but will this give HP a clue? |
Nov 24 10:25 |
| schestowitz |
Kevin Johnson and Allchin both quit Microsoft. Will Poole too… what a DISASTER! |
Nov 24 10:25 |
| schestowitz |
H-P is already messing about with more GNU Linux, macabe |
Nov 24 10:25 |
| schestowitz |
Oops. MinceR |
Nov 24 10:25 |
| MinceR |
 ) |
Nov 24 10:25 |
| MinceR |
s/.$// |
Nov 24 10:25 |
| schestowitz |
I should proofread |
Nov 24 10:26 |
| schestowitz |
Only monkeys don’t proofread: http://apcmag.com/Content.aspx?id=3203 |
Nov 24 10:26 |
| schestowitz |
“Quite frankly, this reads more like an MSN chat transcript than a CEO trying to resolve a potentially major partner crisis. Memo to Steve: |
Nov 24 10:26 |
| schestowitz |
* Full stops can make it much easier to read sentences. |
Nov 24 10:26 |
| schestowitz |
* Please avoid meaningless phrases like “I am not even in the detail of the issues”. |
Nov 24 10:26 |
| schestowitz |
* Outlook has had a spelling and grammar checking facility for some time; using it more often might be sensible. After all, you never know when internal email might end up in a court document these days.” |
Nov 24 10:26 |
| schestowitz |
This one’s disgusting: EDITORIAL: Schools must cash tech check: Unspent Microsoft settlement money is like an unclaimed lottery ticket. < http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/-editorial-schools-mu… >. Microsoft did the crime, but it still doesn’t pay the fine. |
Nov 24 10:27 |
| PetoKraus |
fuck life, i wanna die |
Nov 24 10:27 |
| PetoKraus |
says me head. |
Nov 24 10:27 |
| schestowitz |
I forwarded this to a friend who uses this money to deploy GNU/Linux at Bay Area schools… |
Nov 24 10:27 |
| PetoKraus |
“this money?” |
Nov 24 10:28 |
| schestowitz |
PetoKraus: head says stupid things when it’s ill. |
Nov 24 10:28 |
| schestowitz |
Hundreds of millions in fine. |
Nov 24 10:28 |
| schestowitz |
*fines |
Nov 24 10:28 |
| schestowitz |
This isn’t the first such article. What a disaster.. the state got this compensation years ago, but it just keeps sitting in Microsoft’s bank account. |
Nov 24 10:28 |
| PetoKraus |
that bootup time, it’s funny thing |
Nov 24 10:42 |
| PetoKraus |
i had the same when working in callcentre |
Nov 24 10:42 |
| PetoKraus |
i had to come like 15 minutes earlier so i’d power the XP machine on and launch the phone console |
Nov 24 10:43 |
| schestowitz |
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_… “More generally, these emails as well as the others demonstrate that Microsoft does a good job of managing the media, including analysts and reporters. I think it would be too strong to suggest that Microsoft manipulates the media; if anything, the emails reveal a collegial but respectful interaction with the media.” |
Nov 24 10:43 |
| schestowitz |
Gartner should be embragoed |
Nov 24 10:43 |
| schestowitz |
The whole media is a big stinkin’ joke. |
Nov 24 10:43 |
| PetoKraus |
schestowitz: did you read about the nvidia “HPC desktop”? |
Nov 24 10:43 |
| schestowitz |
Yes, but not much. |
Nov 24 10:44 |
| schestowitz |
NVidia seems to be heading for the ashtray |
Nov 24 10:44 |
| PetoKraus |
i read only the /. article |
Nov 24 10:45 |
| PetoKraus |
it’s interesting thing, though |
Nov 24 10:45 |
| schestowitz |
Microsoft’s CTO quits! http://www.lightreading.com/blog.asp?b… |
Nov 24 10:45 |
| kentma |
wow |
Nov 24 10:46 |
| PetoKraus |
well quits |
Nov 24 10:47 |
| PetoKraus |
i’d say he just went to better job |
Nov 24 10:47 |
| zoobab_ |
who is the CTO? |
Nov 24 10:48 |
| PetoKraus |
name to go is CTO Michel Burger |
Nov 24 10:48 |
| kentma |
Michel Burger has given up trying to get carriers to adopt Microsoft’s service creation frameworks (SCFs) and has joined Vodafone. |
Nov 24 10:48 |
| PetoKraus |
this is nice: http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story…. |
Nov 24 10:49 |
| PetoKraus |
it’s been linked on BN |
Nov 24 10:49 |
| PetoKraus |
i totally agree, especially with the artistic part – photos, videos, writers…… I don’t think I am good at any of these, but I know most people who think they are good really aren’t. I know how much effort it takes to make a good video sequence (yet be it 5 minutes long); most of the youtube videos just make me sick by insensitive cut. |
Nov 24 10:51 |
| kentma |
even getting decent rushes is hard. good editing is as much an art-form as anything mechanical. |
Nov 24 10:52 |
| PetoKraus |
well… i’ll just mention Alan Parsons and his take on Dark Side of the Moon |
Nov 24 10:53 |
| PetoKraus |
without him, the album simply wouldn’t be the same…. and he’s “only” an excellent sound engineer and producer |
Nov 24 10:53 |
| kentma |
Dark Side of the Moon is a brilliant achievement – & Roger Waters is still doing most of it live in concerts – saw it/him last year in London’s Hyde Park. but… |
Nov 24 10:54 |
| kentma |
The name has created a generation of people who think that the moon has a “dark side”… |
Nov 24 10:55 |
| schestowitz |
Microsoft already poisoned Vodafone with a former VP |
Nov 24 10:55 |
| schestowitz |
This is not good. They could lean back to the former employer… cronies and all. |
Nov 24 10:55 |
| PetoKraus |
kentma: but it’s true, isn’t it, the “dark side of the moon” is simply the part of the moon we don’t see |
Nov 24 10:55 |
| PetoKraus |
just because it rotates around it’s own axis the same angular speed as it rotates around earth… |
Nov 24 10:56 |
| kentma |
PetoKraus: except it’s not dark! |
Nov 24 10:56 |
| PetoKraus |
well… how’d you call it then |
Nov 24 10:56 |
| kentma |
“far side” |
Nov 24 10:56 |
| PetoKraus |
okay |
Nov 24 10:56 |
| kentma |
still love the album |
Nov 24 10:56 |
| kentma |
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Nov 24 10:56 |
| PetoKraus |
we are using similar words to “dark” in slovak to describe that ^^ |
Nov 24 10:57 |
| PetoKraus |
i think it’s important to develop your own presentation skills, because in few years, when I graduate, there will be only few people who’ll know grammEr |
Nov 24 10:58 |
| PetoKraus |
it’s annoying when you see ballmer typing like a chat-monkey. though it’s not surprising; the same happens with most of my proffesors at uni – their emails are poorly structured. |
Nov 24 10:59 |
| PetoKraus |
it’s terrible that your surroundings force you to be elitist… |
Nov 24 11:00 |
| schestowitz |
Nothing to do with Microsoft, but Stupid ‘Fool’ needs to do some more Microsoft fanboyism for the masters… Microsoft Will Kill Blu-Ray < http://www.fool.com/investing/value/200… > |
Nov 24 11:02 |
| kentma |
“Elitist” is a term usually used by people who are too lazy to spell and/or write well, so rather than put the effort in themselves, they try to destroy the credibility of those who do put that effort in… |
Nov 24 11:03 |
| PetoKraus |
there’s difference between elitist and snob |
Nov 24 11:04 |
| kentma |
“dark side” has two meanings, a physical meaning which is merely “unlit”, and a more metaphorical meaning which is a “bad side” or “poor aspect”, aspect being another word for side |
Nov 24 11:04 |
