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		<title>By: G. Michaels</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/12/04/novell-microsoft-cooperation/comment-page-2/#comment-43249</link>
		<dc:creator>G. Michaels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 06:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s the kind of quality people Roy likes to attract. Robotic consent and unbridled hatred of whatever it is he&#039;s attacking this week.

Works wonder for the blurb nation. &lt;i&gt;See? See how many people agree with what I&#039;m saying? I must be right!&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;font color=&quot;#ff0000&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Note&lt;/b&gt;: writer of this comment adds absolutely nothing but stalking and personal attacks against readers, as &lt;a href=&quot;http://boycottnovell.com/2008/11/25/jose-on-mono/#comment-39320&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;documented here&lt;/a&gt;.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s the kind of quality people Roy likes to attract. Robotic consent and unbridled hatred of whatever it is he&#8217;s attacking this week.</p>
<p>Works wonder for the blurb nation. <i>See? See how many people agree with what I&#8217;m saying? I must be right!</i></p>
<p><font color="#ff0000"><b>Note</b>: writer of this comment adds absolutely nothing but stalking and personal attacks against readers, as <a href="http://boycottnovell.com/2008/11/25/jose-on-mono/#comment-39320" rel="nofollow">documented here</a>.</font></p>
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		<title>By: AlexH</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/12/04/novell-microsoft-cooperation/comment-page-2/#comment-43143</link>
		<dc:creator>AlexH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 23:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, it wasn&#039;t the attempt to assign blame for death/murder that caught my attention, more the idea that gas chambers might be a solution or punishment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, it wasn&#8217;t the attempt to assign blame for death/murder that caught my attention, more the idea that gas chambers might be a solution or punishment.</p>
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		<title>By: Needs Sunlight</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/12/04/novell-microsoft-cooperation/comment-page-2/#comment-43047</link>
		<dc:creator>Needs Sunlight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Josh: Depending on how you slice it the hospital administrators that make the agreement to deploy M$ could be called liable for the deaths.  However, at the end of the day, they would only make that mistake as a result of the tremendous marketing and lobbying effort put on by M$.

It&#039;s along the same level as using melamine in food.  People get sick or die who would have otherwise stayed healthy.  Lots of money is lost that would have otherwise been spent on progress rather than cleanup.  Why should it be any different just because it is &quot;...with a computer&quot; or part of a cult?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Josh: Depending on how you slice it the hospital administrators that make the agreement to deploy M$ could be called liable for the deaths.  However, at the end of the day, they would only make that mistake as a result of the tremendous marketing and lobbying effort put on by M$.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s along the same level as using melamine in food.  People get sick or die who would have otherwise stayed healthy.  Lots of money is lost that would have otherwise been spent on progress rather than cleanup.  Why should it be any different just because it is &#8220;&#8230;with a computer&#8221; or part of a cult?</p>
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		<title>By: stevetheFLY</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/12/04/novell-microsoft-cooperation/comment-page-2/#comment-42954</link>
		<dc:creator>stevetheFLY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>boycottnovell.com - all the quality and respectability of USENET in one oozing package


&lt;font color=&quot;#ff0000&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Note&lt;/b&gt;: comment has been flagged for arriving from an incarnation of a known (eet), pseudonymous, forever-nymshifting, &lt;a href=&quot;http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/22/eet-strommael-gmx-net/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;abusive&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Internet troll&lt;/a&gt; that posts from &lt;a href=&quot;http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/27/eet-proxies/&quot; title=&quot;The ‘eet’ Nuisance Has Many Proxies/Indentities&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;open proxies and relays around the world&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/font&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>boycottnovell.com &#8211; all the quality and respectability of USENET in one oozing package</p>
<p><font color="#ff0000"><b>Note</b>: comment has been flagged for arriving from an incarnation of a known (eet), pseudonymous, forever-nymshifting, <a href="http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/22/eet-strommael-gmx-net/" rel="nofollow">abusive</a> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll" rel="nofollow">Internet troll</a> that posts from <a href="http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/27/eet-proxies/" title="The ‘eet’ Nuisance Has Many Proxies/Indentities" rel="nofollow">open proxies and relays around the world</a>.</font></p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/12/04/novell-microsoft-cooperation/comment-page-1/#comment-42934</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Needs Sunlight, how old are you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Needs Sunlight, how old are you?</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Bell</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/12/04/novell-microsoft-cooperation/comment-page-1/#comment-42930</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You aren&#039;t serious are you?  You have now blamed Microsoft for soliders and patients dying.  That&#039;s unbelieveable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You aren&#8217;t serious are you?  You have now blamed Microsoft for soliders and patients dying.  That&#8217;s unbelieveable.</p>
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		<title>By: Needs Sunlight</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/12/04/novell-microsoft-cooperation/comment-page-1/#comment-42884</link>
		<dc:creator>Needs Sunlight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 11:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey.  Sometimes bad people do bad things, deal with it.  In this case it&#039;s your zeros at&amp;from MSFT killing both your economy and your fellow countrymen.

In the case of hospitals:

Downsize hospital staff by any large percentage and there will be a corresponding increase in deaths, both short term and long term, as a result in the reduced service.  Do that same reduction of service instead by torpedoing the infrastructure with *known* defective, unreliable, insecure and inefficient software and the result is the same, albeit while eating more of the budget.  

Do that over time and in the face of advice and data to the contrary and you have documented that the individuals involved are going out of their way to cause harm.  People that cause massive damage and death are dealt with by law and are in a bad position.  Those that do it knowingly or repeatedly are in a worse position.  Those that do it both knowingly and repeatedly are in a far worse position.  And worst are those that do it knowingly and repeatedly and fight attempts at prevention.

Now look at how few deaths and how little economic damage, relatively speaking, Osam bin Laden has caused compared to the zeros at&amp;from MSFT.

It&#039;s not as dramatic as Bhopal, but more intentional and far more resulting deaths, suffering and costs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey.  Sometimes bad people do bad things, deal with it.  In this case it&#8217;s your zeros at&amp;from MSFT killing both your economy and your fellow countrymen.</p>
<p>In the case of hospitals:</p>
<p>Downsize hospital staff by any large percentage and there will be a corresponding increase in deaths, both short term and long term, as a result in the reduced service.  Do that same reduction of service instead by torpedoing the infrastructure with *known* defective, unreliable, insecure and inefficient software and the result is the same, albeit while eating more of the budget.  </p>
<p>Do that over time and in the face of advice and data to the contrary and you have documented that the individuals involved are going out of their way to cause harm.  People that cause massive damage and death are dealt with by law and are in a bad position.  Those that do it knowingly or repeatedly are in a worse position.  Those that do it both knowingly and repeatedly are in a far worse position.  And worst are those that do it knowingly and repeatedly and fight attempts at prevention.</p>
<p>Now look at how few deaths and how little economic damage, relatively speaking, Osam bin Laden has caused compared to the zeros at&amp;from MSFT.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not as dramatic as Bhopal, but more intentional and far more resulting deaths, suffering and costs.</p>
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		<title>By: AlexH</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/12/04/novell-microsoft-cooperation/comment-page-1/#comment-42878</link>
		<dc:creator>AlexH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 09:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;How many patients and soldiers must die before MS executives and their collaborators are taken to task? Many, such as the MSCEs, can probably get away with fines and/or community service. However, the ringleaders, Gates, Ballmer, Allchin and co, are candidates for the gas chamber. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

You can&#039;t be serious?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>How many patients and soldiers must die before MS executives and their collaborators are taken to task? Many, such as the MSCEs, can probably get away with fines and/or community service. However, the ringleaders, Gates, Ballmer, Allchin and co, are candidates for the gas chamber. </p></blockquote>
<p>You can&#8217;t be serious?</p>
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		<title>By: Needs Sunlight</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/12/04/novell-microsoft-cooperation/comment-page-1/#comment-42876</link>
		<dc:creator>Needs Sunlight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 08:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, Novell is then contributing to the insecurity and economic downfall of many nations.  MS is giving us these:

http://securityvulns.com/Udocument888.html

http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=2232

So, by spreading M$ technology, Novell will also be spreading the technology of failure.  The hospitals are still not cleaned up, nor are the bases.  These put an inappropriate load on the staff and end up taking enormous quantities of resources away from the core missions.  

How many patients and soldiers must die before MS executives and their collaborators are taken  to task?  Many, such as the MSCEs, can probably get away with fines and/or community service.  However, the ringleaders, Gates, Ballmer, Allchin and co,  are candidates for the gas chamber.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, Novell is then contributing to the insecurity and economic downfall of many nations.  MS is giving us these:</p>
<p><a href="http://securityvulns.com/Udocument888.html" rel="nofollow">http://securityvulns.com/Udocument888.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=2232" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=2232</a></p>
<p>So, by spreading M$ technology, Novell will also be spreading the technology of failure.  The hospitals are still not cleaned up, nor are the bases.  These put an inappropriate load on the staff and end up taking enormous quantities of resources away from the core missions.  </p>
<p>How many patients and soldiers must die before MS executives and their collaborators are taken  to task?  Many, such as the MSCEs, can probably get away with fines and/or community service.  However, the ringleaders, Gates, Ballmer, Allchin and co,  are candidates for the gas chamber.</p>
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