Comments on: Links 14/12/2008: Myst Online is Open Source, Glimpse at Lancelot http://techrights.org/2008/12/14/glimpse-at-lancelot/ Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those threatened by software freedom Tue, 07 Feb 2012 14:00:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Doug http://techrights.org/2008/12/14/glimpse-at-lancelot/comment-page-3/#comment-49232 Doug Sun, 14 Dec 2008 20:45:16 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/12/14/glimpse-at-lancelot/#comment-49232 "well, Windows isn’t free software, so no. My point only relates to free software", AlexH How can software be free if someone has patented the equivalent of the callback function, matters not if Sun gives the enduser a royalty free patent grant. What about the developers who put similar functionality in their applications? “well, Windows isn’t free software, so no. My point only relates to free software”, AlexH

How can software be free if someone has patented the equivalent of the callback function, matters not if Sun gives the enduser a royalty free patent grant. What about the developers who put similar functionality in their applications?

]]> By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2008/12/14/glimpse-at-lancelot/comment-page-3/#comment-49231 Roy Schestowitz Sun, 14 Dec 2008 20:34:54 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/12/14/glimpse-at-lancelot/#comment-49231 Have you been following the Bilski case? This is not about pigs and wings. Have you been following the Bilski case? This is not about pigs and wings.

]]> By: Chris http://techrights.org/2008/12/14/glimpse-at-lancelot/comment-page-3/#comment-49229 Chris Sun, 14 Dec 2008 20:15:15 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/12/14/glimpse-at-lancelot/#comment-49229 And why would they do that as long as the american patent law isn´t changed? Once again you are not only beating a dead horse but the wrong one as well ... And why would they do that as long as the american patent law isn´t changed?

Once again you are not only beating a dead horse but the wrong one as well …

]]> By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2008/12/14/glimpse-at-lancelot/comment-page-3/#comment-49227 Roy Schestowitz Sun, 14 Dec 2008 20:10:05 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/12/14/glimpse-at-lancelot/#comment-49227 I know about Mingw (and equivalents), but this does not change my argument. Regarding software patents and Java, big companies need to step up and burn them in a big fire. It's like IBM promotes possession of nuclear missiles by big nations; it just doesn't trust 'terrorists' with this technology (trolls). Disarmament is the best solution. I know about Mingw (and equivalents), but this does not change my argument.

Regarding software patents and Java, big companies need to step up and burn them in a big fire. It’s like IBM promotes possession of nuclear missiles by big nations; it just doesn’t trust ‘terrorists’ with this technology (trolls). Disarmament is the best solution.

]]> By: AlexH http://techrights.org/2008/12/14/glimpse-at-lancelot/comment-page-3/#comment-49225 AlexH Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:48:05 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/12/14/glimpse-at-lancelot/#comment-49225 @Doug: well, Windows isn't free software, so no. My point only relates to free software. @Roy: it's not "anti-GNU/Linux". See e.g. the Fedora Mingw project. @Doug: well, Windows isn’t free software, so no. My point only relates to free software.

@Roy: it’s not “anti-GNU/Linux”. See e.g. the Fedora Mingw project.

]]> By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2008/12/14/glimpse-at-lancelot/comment-page-2/#comment-49224 Roy Schestowitz Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:38:48 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/12/14/glimpse-at-lancelot/#comment-49224 I've just found <a href="http://boycottnovell.com/2008/10/17/wamp-strategy-warning/" rel="nofollow">our latest post</a> about it. I’ve just found our latest post about it.

]]> By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2008/12/14/glimpse-at-lancelot/comment-page-2/#comment-49223 Roy Schestowitz Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:37:34 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/12/14/glimpse-at-lancelot/#comment-49223 Microsoft already has some FOSS installer/s for Windows. It's an anti-GNU/Linux move. Microsoft already has some FOSS installer/s for Windows. It’s an anti-GNU/Linux move.

]]> By: Doug http://techrights.org/2008/12/14/glimpse-at-lancelot/comment-page-2/#comment-49222 Doug Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:35:49 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/12/14/glimpse-at-lancelot/#comment-49222 "@Doug: no royalties are due on any free software, on any platform", AlexH I sorry Alex, but does that mean I can use an unlicensed copy of Windows and run my FOSS stack on it without violating the Windows EULA. If not, then who do I pay and for what? “@Doug: no royalties are due on any free software, on any platform”, AlexH

I sorry Alex, but does that mean I can use an unlicensed copy of Windows and run my FOSS stack on it without violating the Windows EULA. If not, then who do I pay and for what?

]]> By: Doug http://techrights.org/2008/12/14/glimpse-at-lancelot/comment-page-2/#comment-49221 Doug Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:32:04 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/12/14/glimpse-at-lancelot/#comment-49221 "it’s free software, so it comes with a patent grant .. it’s not really something to worry about with respect to Java", AlexH Except such patenting of the fundamental particles of programming makes it virtually impossible for anyone to not to violate some patent, unless you get a lawyer to go through it line-by-line, therefore making it impossible for anyone but the major players to write software. The hidden and very real agenda of this patent land grab. How soon wil it be before you have to have your source verified (at great expense) by the BSA? “it’s free software, so it comes with a patent grant .. it’s not really something to worry about with respect to Java”, AlexH

Except such patenting of the fundamental particles of programming makes it virtually impossible for anyone to not to violate some patent, unless you get a lawyer to go through it line-by-line, therefore making it impossible for anyone but the major players to write software. The hidden and very real agenda of this patent land grab. How soon wil it be before you have to have your source verified (at great expense) by the BSA?

]]> By: AlexH http://techrights.org/2008/12/14/glimpse-at-lancelot/comment-page-2/#comment-49220 AlexH Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:27:59 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/12/14/glimpse-at-lancelot/#comment-49220 @Doug: no royalties are due on any free software, on any platform. @Doug: no royalties are due on any free software, on any platform.

]]> By: Doug http://techrights.org/2008/12/14/glimpse-at-lancelot/comment-page-1/#comment-49219 Doug Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:26:54 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/12/14/glimpse-at-lancelot/#comment-49219 "a FOSS repository for Windows would be a damn fine thing", David Gerard What about the licensing implications, who do I pay my Intellectual Property dues to, Red Hat, Novell or directly to Microsoft ? “a FOSS repository for Windows would be a damn fine thing”, David Gerard

What about the licensing implications, who do I pay my Intellectual Property dues to, Red Hat, Novell or directly to Microsoft ?

]]> By: AlexH http://techrights.org/2008/12/14/glimpse-at-lancelot/comment-page-1/#comment-49218 AlexH Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:25:38 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/12/14/glimpse-at-lancelot/#comment-49218 @Doug: it's free software, so it comes with a patent grant. You'll find Sun are an extremely active patenter I'm afraid, but it's not really something to worry about with respect to Java. @Doug: it’s free software, so it comes with a patent grant. You’ll find Sun are an extremely active patenter I’m afraid, but it’s not really something to worry about with respect to Java.

]]> By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2008/12/14/glimpse-at-lancelot/comment-page-1/#comment-49217 Roy Schestowitz Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:22:42 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/12/14/glimpse-at-lancelot/#comment-49217 Sun is <a href="http://boycottnovell.com/2008/05/15/mysql-sun-complex/" rel="nofollow">weird when it comes to patents</a>, but don't expect them to go after Linux. Sun is weird when it comes to patents, but don’t expect them to go after Linux.

]]> By: Doug http://techrights.org/2008/12/14/glimpse-at-lancelot/comment-page-1/#comment-49215 Doug Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:09:16 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/12/14/glimpse-at-lancelot/#comment-49215 Sun patents JAVA method .. (I thought Sun had open sourced JAVA ?) http://www.mbtmag.com/articleXml/LN898192000.html Sun patents JAVA method .. (I thought Sun had open sourced JAVA ?)

http://www.mbtmag.com/articleXml/LN898192000.html

]]> By: David Gerard http://techrights.org/2008/12/14/glimpse-at-lancelot/comment-page-1/#comment-49212 David Gerard Sun, 14 Dec 2008 18:13:13 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2008/12/14/glimpse-at-lancelot/#comment-49212 When done by FOSS, a single source of apps is a repository or a ports tree. When done by proprietary software, a single source of apps is the iPhone App Store. However, a FOSS repository for Windows would be a damn fine thing. Not quite Cygwin (which is also one), but a one-stop source of shiny shiny things that are available for Windows. Start with Firefox, OpenOffice.org and GIMP and work down from there - Inkscape, etc. This stuff really does work as a gateway drug, y'know. That's why the Eee 701 worked so well IMO - Firefox 2 on Xandros is identical to Firefox 2 on Windows. When done by FOSS, a single source of apps is a repository or a ports tree. When done by proprietary software, a single source of apps is the iPhone App Store.

However, a FOSS repository for Windows would be a damn fine thing. Not quite Cygwin (which is also one), but a one-stop source of shiny shiny things that are available for Windows. Start with Firefox, OpenOffice.org and GIMP and work down from there – Inkscape, etc.

This stuff really does work as a gateway drug, y’know. That’s why the Eee 701 worked so well IMO – Firefox 2 on Xandros is identical to Firefox 2 on Windows.

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