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	<title>Comments on: Is ASUS Deliberately Discouraging GNU/Linux Now?</title>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/12/21/asus-shafting-linux/comment-page-2/#comment-53552</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 09:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dell is based on kickbacks. it had them going with Intel too.

The corruption in this industry is rampant and it&#039;s time for intervention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dell is based on kickbacks. it had them going with Intel too.</p>
<p>The corruption in this industry is rampant and it&#8217;s time for intervention.</p>
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		<title>By: amd-linux</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/12/21/asus-shafting-linux/comment-page-2/#comment-53546</link>
		<dc:creator>amd-linux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 09:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dont know, maybe because I posted 2 comments within 20 minutes :-) ? Anyway.

BTW, a spokesperson for Asus Germany told a reader of an EEE PC blog via email that Asus Germany is forbidden by a marketing agreement to sell Linux machines cheaper than Windows equipped machines so you can not get the same model with Windows or Linux - because then, the kick back trick would be transparent to the competition authorities ....

With Acer, there seems no such deal in place, so you can choose the same model with Win XP or Linux, and getting the Linux version for the well known 30 Euros less.... which is the current Windows tax here in Euroland.

In the US, MS obviously does not dare to do this - otherwise they would also bribe Dell the same way, which they are not doing, me thinks, when I see the last Dell Linux offers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dont know, maybe because I posted 2 comments within 20 minutes <img src='http://techrights.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  ? Anyway.</p>
<p>BTW, a spokesperson for Asus Germany told a reader of an EEE PC blog via email that Asus Germany is forbidden by a marketing agreement to sell Linux machines cheaper than Windows equipped machines so you can not get the same model with Windows or Linux &#8211; because then, the kick back trick would be transparent to the competition authorities &#8230;.</p>
<p>With Acer, there seems no such deal in place, so you can choose the same model with Win XP or Linux, and getting the Linux version for the well known 30 Euros less&#8230;. which is the current Windows tax here in Euroland.</p>
<p>In the US, MS obviously does not dare to do this &#8211; otherwise they would also bribe Dell the same way, which they are not doing, me thinks, when I see the last Dell Linux offers.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/12/21/asus-shafting-linux/comment-page-2/#comment-53124</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 20:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>amd-linux, did any of your comments get trapped? I released one of yours about 2 days after it had been posted (we get lots of spam and false positives).

Regarding Microsoft&#039;s bottom line, they are close to debt (maybe they are already in it).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>amd-linux, did any of your comments get trapped? I released one of yours about 2 days after it had been posted (we get lots of spam and false positives).</p>
<p>Regarding Microsoft&#8217;s bottom line, they are close to debt (maybe they are already in it).</p>
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		<title>By: amd-linux</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/12/21/asus-shafting-linux/comment-page-1/#comment-53121</link>
		<dc:creator>amd-linux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 20:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roy,

I dont know why you did not moderate my last comment, but again in brief:

MS is paying per-license marketing subventions that make manufacturers use Windows - as they essentialy get payed from MS for every Windows license they sell. 

MS charges them lets say 19 USD per Windows XP Home license and pays them about 30 bucks per sold machine with Windows via a marketing contract. In essence, they they to crush competition via kick-backs. 

Bad thing for MS and shareholders: Even MS will run out of money one. day....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roy,</p>
<p>I dont know why you did not moderate my last comment, but again in brief:</p>
<p>MS is paying per-license marketing subventions that make manufacturers use Windows &#8211; as they essentialy get payed from MS for every Windows license they sell. </p>
<p>MS charges them lets say 19 USD per Windows XP Home license and pays them about 30 bucks per sold machine with Windows via a marketing contract. In essence, they they to crush competition via kick-backs. </p>
<p>Bad thing for MS and shareholders: Even MS will run out of money one. day&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/12/21/asus-shafting-linux/comment-page-1/#comment-53119</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 20:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It &lt;em&gt;has&lt;/em&gt; been for a long time, but some believed got reformed.

Microsoft is throwing away a lot of revenue just to choke GNU/Linux and pressure OEMs not to offer a foothold to better operating systems.


&lt;font size=&quot;4&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;&quot;They [Microsoft] have the deepest of pockets, unlimited  ambition, and they are willing to lose money for years and years just to make sure that you don&#039;t make any money, either.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/font&gt;
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                                --&lt;font size=&quot;3&quot;&gt;Robert X. Cringely&lt;/font&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It <em>has</em> been for a long time, but some believed got reformed.</p>
<p>Microsoft is throwing away a lot of revenue just to choke GNU/Linux and pressure OEMs not to offer a foothold to better operating systems.</p>
<p><font size="4"><em>&#8220;They [Microsoft] have the deepest of pockets, unlimited  ambition, and they are willing to lose money for years and years just to make sure that you don&#8217;t make any money, either.&#8221;</em></font></p>
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                                &#8211;<font size="3">Robert X. Cringely</font></p>
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		<title>By: Diamond Wakizashi</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/12/21/asus-shafting-linux/comment-page-1/#comment-53111</link>
		<dc:creator>Diamond Wakizashi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 18:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems ASUS might be one of Microsoft&#039;s bitches.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems ASUS might be one of Microsoft&#8217;s bitches.</p>
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		<title>By: pcolon</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/12/21/asus-shafting-linux/comment-page-1/#comment-53098</link>
		<dc:creator>pcolon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 16:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OEMs have already seen and in ASUS case, tasted sales success, with preinstalled Linux machines. Now they seem to be caving in to MS running higher spec machines for less profit because windows can&#039;t run on the lower spec ones. If OEMs want to continue appeasing a dying monopoly, they&#039;re welcome to gut themselves. Others will just slide in and take their place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OEMs have already seen and in ASUS case, tasted sales success, with preinstalled Linux machines. Now they seem to be caving in to MS running higher spec machines for less profit because windows can&#8217;t run on the lower spec ones. If OEMs want to continue appeasing a dying monopoly, they&#8217;re welcome to gut themselves. Others will just slide in and take their place.</p>
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		<title>By: SubSonica</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/12/21/asus-shafting-linux/comment-page-1/#comment-53090</link>
		<dc:creator>SubSonica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 16:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True. Some months ago, the AA1 linux version was 349€ whereas the windows XP version with same specs was 399€, now they sell both at 349€. I bought an AA1 linux version, though (the one with SSD and half the ram) for 219€.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True. Some months ago, the AA1 linux version was 349€ whereas the windows XP version with same specs was 399€, now they sell both at 349€. I bought an AA1 linux version, though (the one with SSD and half the ram) for 219€.</p>
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