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		<title>By: bigpicture</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/12/27/microsoft-shills-aka-te-secrets/comment-page-7/#comment-57314</link>
		<dc:creator>bigpicture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 20:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MS seems to have no answer to the Apple adds that use their own tactic against them much like martial arts, and they have tried.  These cast MS as the uncool lumbering out of touch giant.  Which in in the view of of a lot of folks they are.  The next step would be to compare them to fascism that uses Hitler&#039;s propaganda methodology, which they do.

The disinformation thing is rampant at all levels, that is why I don&#039;t watch TV, read newspapers or magazines.  Or pay attention to any information that is likely to be manufactured or censored.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MS seems to have no answer to the Apple adds that use their own tactic against them much like martial arts, and they have tried.  These cast MS as the uncool lumbering out of touch giant.  Which in in the view of of a lot of folks they are.  The next step would be to compare them to fascism that uses Hitler&#8217;s propaganda methodology, which they do.</p>
<p>The disinformation thing is rampant at all levels, that is why I don&#8217;t watch TV, read newspapers or magazines.  Or pay attention to any information that is likely to be manufactured or censored.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/12/27/microsoft-shills-aka-te-secrets/comment-page-7/#comment-57024</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 18:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t kept good track of him, but I occasionally see him cheering Microsoft and we &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=mozclient&amp;num=50&amp;ie=utf-8&amp;oe=utf-8&amp;q=site:boycottnovell.com+Andre+Da+Costa&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;wrote about him before&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t kept good track of him, but I occasionally see him cheering Microsoft and we <a href="http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=mozclient&#038;num=50&#038;ie=utf-8&#038;oe=utf-8&#038;q=site:boycottnovell.com+Andre+Da+Costa" rel="nofollow">wrote about him before</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: The Hand</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/12/27/microsoft-shills-aka-te-secrets/comment-page-7/#comment-57023</link>
		<dc:creator>The Hand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 18:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Roy,
Very nice site and thanks for the hard work putting all this together.  I do have a question for you that Goblin has already asked, sort of.  But the question or rather the answer, was a bit confusing, I think.  Rather looking for a yes or no type answer.

Goblin asked you if Andre, the guy who first posted a comment here, is the same Andre Da Costa that posts all the time at MS Watch, has a site that reads like a &quot;just the facts&quot; site ( adacosta.spaces.live.com)  writes revues at amazon for MS software and its competitors, and posts articles for the MS MVP that runs the ActiveWin site, and supposedly live in Jamaica.  He is a very very busy poster for MS on the web.

Most likely you may not know.  But any information you might have on the this MS Shill would be appreciated, if you have any.  And yes, its obvious that Andre does think he is one of the good guys.   But we know how confusing life is these days, and how twisted logic come become, to the point of who is the good guys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Roy,<br />
Very nice site and thanks for the hard work putting all this together.  I do have a question for you that Goblin has already asked, sort of.  But the question or rather the answer, was a bit confusing, I think.  Rather looking for a yes or no type answer.</p>
<p>Goblin asked you if Andre, the guy who first posted a comment here, is the same Andre Da Costa that posts all the time at MS Watch, has a site that reads like a &#8220;just the facts&#8221; site ( adacosta.spaces.live.com)  writes revues at amazon for MS software and its competitors, and posts articles for the MS MVP that runs the ActiveWin site, and supposedly live in Jamaica.  He is a very very busy poster for MS on the web.</p>
<p>Most likely you may not know.  But any information you might have on the this MS Shill would be appreciated, if you have any.  And yes, its obvious that Andre does think he is one of the good guys.   But we know how confusing life is these days, and how twisted logic come become, to the point of who is the good guys.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/12/27/microsoft-shills-aka-te-secrets/comment-page-6/#comment-57000</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 00:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@yonnie:

It&#039;s not news, it&#039;s concrete evidence. The same argument was made about &lt;a href=&quot;http://boycottnovell.com/2008/12/01/leaked-oem-vista-ad-incentives/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this post&lt;/a&gt; from early in the month.

We all know that Microsoft is doing this, but lacking hard evidence, it may prove difficult to make a solid case to people who are new to this or journalists who must be careful about what they write. Having the evidence at hand makes all the difference in the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@yonnie:</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not news, it&#8217;s concrete evidence. The same argument was made about <a href="http://boycottnovell.com/2008/12/01/leaked-oem-vista-ad-incentives/" rel="nofollow">this post</a> from early in the month.</p>
<p>We all know that Microsoft is doing this, but lacking hard evidence, it may prove difficult to make a solid case to people who are new to this or journalists who must be careful about what they write. Having the evidence at hand makes all the difference in the world.</p>
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		<title>By: yonnie</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/12/27/microsoft-shills-aka-te-secrets/comment-page-6/#comment-56998</link>
		<dc:creator>yonnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 23:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can the author actually get specific?  The article does seem to ramble.  What is very impressive about the article, the author, and the many comments is that it implies these tactics are somewhat new.  WHAT DESERT ISLAND HAVE YOU IDIOTS BEEN LIVING ON for the past 30 years????  Microsoft has always been devious, from stealing other peoples work and presenting it as their own to suppressing the competition by any means possible including bribes and product placement.  Come on folks!  Don&#039;t you read the newspapers?  Listen to the news?  It&#039;s been every year since year one, some form of lawsuit against MS, I can&#039;t remember them (MS) ever winning, they just run the suit till the suer gives up or goes broke, which ever happens first!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can the author actually get specific?  The article does seem to ramble.  What is very impressive about the article, the author, and the many comments is that it implies these tactics are somewhat new.  WHAT DESERT ISLAND HAVE YOU IDIOTS BEEN LIVING ON for the past 30 years????  Microsoft has always been devious, from stealing other peoples work and presenting it as their own to suppressing the competition by any means possible including bribes and product placement.  Come on folks!  Don&#8217;t you read the newspapers?  Listen to the news?  It&#8217;s been every year since year one, some form of lawsuit against MS, I can&#8217;t remember them (MS) ever winning, they just run the suit till the suer gives up or goes broke, which ever happens first!</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/12/27/microsoft-shills-aka-te-secrets/comment-page-6/#comment-56993</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 23:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Matthew Holloway incident has been immensely valuable, to this very day. It is routinely used as a case study of smear campaigns that quietly percolate their way through from Microsoft&#039;s mouths. You typically find yourself unable to find the &#039;trail&#039; -- so to speak -- when you only see the insult coming from the mouth of people like Rob Enderle or Jan van den Beld. It&#039;s also hard to find those responsible for the witch hunt against Peter Quinn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Matthew Holloway incident has been immensely valuable, to this very day. It is routinely used as a case study of smear campaigns that quietly percolate their way through from Microsoft&#8217;s mouths. You typically find yourself unable to find the &#8216;trail&#8217; &#8212; so to speak &#8212; when you only see the insult coming from the mouth of people like Rob Enderle or Jan van den Beld. It&#8217;s also hard to find those responsible for the witch hunt against Peter Quinn.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Lane</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/12/27/microsoft-shills-aka-te-secrets/comment-page-6/#comment-56991</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep :) that&#039;s the one.  It&#039;s worth noting that Microsoft are obviously consistent in their game plan.   Doesn&#039;t seem to take them long to escalate things to character assassination...  Their lack of honour is less than impressive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep <img src='http://techrights.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  that&#8217;s the one.  It&#8217;s worth noting that Microsoft are obviously consistent in their game plan.   Doesn&#8217;t seem to take them long to escalate things to character assassination&#8230;  Their lack of honour is less than impressive.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/12/27/microsoft-shills-aka-te-secrets/comment-page-6/#comment-56990</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ve covered &lt;a href=&quot;http://boycottnovell.com/index.php?s=holloway&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the Matthew Holloway incident&lt;/a&gt; pretty well, in case you are referring to it too.

http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/news/0B47485921D44083CC2574110068B1B6</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve covered <a href="http://boycottnovell.com/index.php?s=holloway" rel="nofollow">the Matthew Holloway incident</a> pretty well, in case you are referring to it too.</p>
<p><a href="http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/news/0B47485921D44083CC2574110068B1B6" rel="nofollow">http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/news/0B47485921D44083CC2574110068B1B6</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dave Lane</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/12/27/microsoft-shills-aka-te-secrets/comment-page-5/#comment-56989</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This TE stuff is interesting and appears pretty diabolical...  I&#039;m intrigued to hear that James Plamondon is on poor terms with Microsoft due to a personal attack.  They&#039;re definitely prone to character assassination if they can&#039;t beat an opponent by outsmarting them.  During the OOXML debacle, a group of open source advocates (who happened to know A LOT about office file formats, both ODF and MS Office&#039;s non-standard formats) took part as advisors in the New Zealand standards organisation&#039;s deliberations on whether or not to support OOXML.   Because they were so well informed, and were quite successful in making a sound case for *not* approving OOXML, Microsoft sent down biggish gun &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.technet.com/gray_knowlton/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Gray Knowlton&lt;/a&gt; from Redmond, presumably to cow the uppity open sourcers with his superior intellect and grasp of the material.   

Sadly for Microsoft, Gray was roundly outclassed by the open source proponents who quickly revealed the substantial holes in his understanding and reasoning, and Standards NZ saw his involvement as disingenuous.  To make it worse, however, Microsoft subsequently sent a letter to various participants in the process (later released to the open source proponents) which attempted to discredit one of the open source people, attacking him personally (and without basis in fact).  

Thankfully, Standards NZ saw through this approach as well, and in the end, it appeared from my somewhat detached perspective that Microsoft utterly burned their bridges with their unethical behaviour, e.g. attempts at character assassination.  Despite taking out &lt;a href=&quot;http://davelane.name/microsofts-ooxml-ad-dominion-post&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;full-page ads&lt;/a&gt; in all the major NZ daily newspapers (talk about old school) to support their cause (ironically, playing to kiwi&#039;s sense of national identity in protecting &quot;their data&quot;...), Standards NZ voted resoundingly &quot;NO&quot; on OOXML.  

Microsoft have always been a corporation prone to unethical behaviour if it will increase the bottom line.  They will continue to be until such time as the market recognises their behaviour and shuns their products.  Remember: &quot;with Microsoft technologies, rather than working in the cloud, you&#039;re living under one&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This TE stuff is interesting and appears pretty diabolical&#8230;  I&#8217;m intrigued to hear that James Plamondon is on poor terms with Microsoft due to a personal attack.  They&#8217;re definitely prone to character assassination if they can&#8217;t beat an opponent by outsmarting them.  During the OOXML debacle, a group of open source advocates (who happened to know A LOT about office file formats, both ODF and MS Office&#8217;s non-standard formats) took part as advisors in the New Zealand standards organisation&#8217;s deliberations on whether or not to support OOXML.   Because they were so well informed, and were quite successful in making a sound case for *not* approving OOXML, Microsoft sent down biggish gun <a href="http://blogs.technet.com/gray_knowlton/" rel="nofollow">Gray Knowlton</a> from Redmond, presumably to cow the uppity open sourcers with his superior intellect and grasp of the material.   </p>
<p>Sadly for Microsoft, Gray was roundly outclassed by the open source proponents who quickly revealed the substantial holes in his understanding and reasoning, and Standards NZ saw his involvement as disingenuous.  To make it worse, however, Microsoft subsequently sent a letter to various participants in the process (later released to the open source proponents) which attempted to discredit one of the open source people, attacking him personally (and without basis in fact).  </p>
<p>Thankfully, Standards NZ saw through this approach as well, and in the end, it appeared from my somewhat detached perspective that Microsoft utterly burned their bridges with their unethical behaviour, e.g. attempts at character assassination.  Despite taking out <a href="http://davelane.name/microsofts-ooxml-ad-dominion-post" rel="nofollow">full-page ads</a> in all the major NZ daily newspapers (talk about old school) to support their cause (ironically, playing to kiwi&#8217;s sense of national identity in protecting &#8220;their data&#8221;&#8230;), Standards NZ voted resoundingly &#8220;NO&#8221; on OOXML.  </p>
<p>Microsoft have always been a corporation prone to unethical behaviour if it will increase the bottom line.  They will continue to be until such time as the market recognises their behaviour and shuns their products.  Remember: &#8220;with Microsoft technologies, rather than working in the cloud, you&#8217;re living under one&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jose_X</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/12/27/microsoft-shills-aka-te-secrets/comment-page-5/#comment-56834</link>
		<dc:creator>Jose_X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 05:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also think at times that what you show on BN would appear tame next to some of the other things they do.. that&#039;s my cynical side speaking. If true, you can understand why they might want to &quot;come clean&quot; and help put everything behind them. But again, that is my cynical side speaking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also think at times that what you show on BN would appear tame next to some of the other things they do.. that&#8217;s my cynical side speaking. If true, you can understand why they might want to &#8220;come clean&#8221; and help put everything behind them. But again, that is my cynical side speaking.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/12/27/microsoft-shills-aka-te-secrets/comment-page-5/#comment-56714</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 09:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here are some more responses to this:

&lt;hr /&gt;

&quot;This is massive news, even bigger than the exposure of &lt;a href=&quot;http://boycottnovell.com/2008/12/01/leaked-oem-vista-ad-incentives/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the &quot;(Vendor) Recommends Windows&quot; paid advertising cover-up&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;In many (personal) ways, this has been the worst year of my life; it&#039;d be nice to think I could salvage something positive from it, and this news looks like it could be it. &lt;em&gt;Finally&lt;/em&gt; ... not only the inside scoop on the profoundly unethical ways in which Microsoft &quot;competes&quot;, but even an *admission* from their erstwhile *chief evangelist* that these methods were indeed diabolically wrong (update: and still are).

&quot;Better archive that whole blog, &#039;cos I have a feeling Microsoft is about to develop a very sensitive trigger-finger.&quot;

&lt;hr /&gt;

That&#039;s interesting.  I checked M. Plamondon&#039;s blog and apparently he started doing this 2 months ago.  In particular, check out this comment, posted on 13 Dec., at the bottom of &lt;a href=&quot;http://platformevangelism.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!37F174267DC274C!162.entry&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this post&lt;/a&gt;:

&quot;The name seems familiar somehow.  &lt;sarcasm&gt;I wonder who he means by &quot;BoycottBoy&quot;.&lt;/sarcasm&gt;

&quot;It&#039;s amusing that Michaels seems to think that Microsoft&#039;s platform evangelism practices don&#039;t affect him because he was/is a Sun professional and Microsoft&#039;s platform evangelism is primarily aimed at FOSS.  The latter may be true now, but it wasn&#039;t &quot;back in the day&quot;.  Sun was also one of a long list of Microsoft victims.  I used to be a Sun system administrator in the early &#039;90&#039;s and a whole department of the company where I worked had Sun workstations set up to do CAD/CAM work.  If they have gone the way of the market, then I&#039;m sure the Sun workstations would have been replaced with white box systems running Windows. Sun has just managed to survive, but Microsoft has had a rather negative effect on their profitability.  Between Linux and Windows, Unix has practically disappeared.  A few years ago, Sun was even forced to make its AMD64 hardware certified to run Windows.  Even earlier than that, they supported Linux on their AMD64 hardware.  If Sun had their preferences, I&#039;m sure they would still want to be able to sell their hardware at high prices with Solaris as the sole supported operating system.&quot;

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&quot;I&#039;m sure that this is just the tip of the iceberg.  Who&#039;s left in the popular media that might pick up the story?

&quot;Just be careful with information.  It&#039;s possible that they only pretend to come out of the cold.  We have an in-house sales rep who is often snooping for info. He uses an act of trying to be helpful to first pump for information and second try to prevent things from getting done.

&quot;The bottom line here seems that Microsoft is more a movement than a technology. So efforts to move forward with technology need to factor in neutralizing political and ideological interference from Microsoft people.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are some more responses to this:</p>
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<p>&#8220;This is massive news, even bigger than the exposure of <a href="http://boycottnovell.com/2008/12/01/leaked-oem-vista-ad-incentives/" rel="nofollow">the &#8220;(Vendor) Recommends Windows&#8221; paid advertising cover-up</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;In many (personal) ways, this has been the worst year of my life; it&#8217;d be nice to think I could salvage something positive from it, and this news looks like it could be it. <em>Finally</em> &#8230; not only the inside scoop on the profoundly unethical ways in which Microsoft &#8220;competes&#8221;, but even an *admission* from their erstwhile *chief evangelist* that these methods were indeed diabolically wrong (update: and still are).</p>
<p>&#8220;Better archive that whole blog, &#8216;cos I have a feeling Microsoft is about to develop a very sensitive trigger-finger.&#8221;</p>
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<p>That&#8217;s interesting.  I checked M. Plamondon&#8217;s blog and apparently he started doing this 2 months ago.  In particular, check out this comment, posted on 13 Dec., at the bottom of <a href="http://platformevangelism.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!37F174267DC274C!162.entry" rel="nofollow">this post</a>:</p>
<p>&#8220;The name seems familiar somehow.  &lt;sarcasm>I wonder who he means by &#8220;BoycottBoy&#8221;.&lt;/sarcasm></p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s amusing that Michaels seems to think that Microsoft&#8217;s platform evangelism practices don&#8217;t affect him because he was/is a Sun professional and Microsoft&#8217;s platform evangelism is primarily aimed at FOSS.  The latter may be true now, but it wasn&#8217;t &#8220;back in the day&#8221;.  Sun was also one of a long list of Microsoft victims.  I used to be a Sun system administrator in the early &#8217;90&#8242;s and a whole department of the company where I worked had Sun workstations set up to do CAD/CAM work.  If they have gone the way of the market, then I&#8217;m sure the Sun workstations would have been replaced with white box systems running Windows. Sun has just managed to survive, but Microsoft has had a rather negative effect on their profitability.  Between Linux and Windows, Unix has practically disappeared.  A few years ago, Sun was even forced to make its AMD64 hardware certified to run Windows.  Even earlier than that, they supported Linux on their AMD64 hardware.  If Sun had their preferences, I&#8217;m sure they would still want to be able to sell their hardware at high prices with Solaris as the sole supported operating system.&#8221;</p>
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<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m sure that this is just the tip of the iceberg.  Who&#8217;s left in the popular media that might pick up the story?</p>
<p>&#8220;Just be careful with information.  It&#8217;s possible that they only pretend to come out of the cold.  We have an in-house sales rep who is often snooping for info. He uses an act of trying to be helpful to first pump for information and second try to prevent things from getting done.</p>
<p>&#8220;The bottom line here seems that Microsoft is more a movement than a technology. So efforts to move forward with technology need to factor in neutralizing political and ideological interference from Microsoft people.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Goblin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Goblin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 01:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, I will find the issue number and page.
As its late, Ill look through my back issues in the morning.  FYI the magazine is a UK one, and I believe your name was mentioned in an article in the general news section.

Like I say, Ill give you the issue number and page tomorrow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, I will find the issue number and page.<br />
As its late, Ill look through my back issues in the morning.  FYI the magazine is a UK one, and I believe your name was mentioned in an article in the general news section.</p>
<p>Like I say, Ill give you the issue number and page tomorrow.</p>
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		<title>By: jo Shields</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/12/27/microsoft-shills-aka-te-secrets/comment-page-5/#comment-56464</link>
		<dc:creator>jo Shields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 00:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Jo, going off topic for a second can I ask, are you the same Jo Shields that challenged a GPL violation some months ago? (It was mentioned in the “Linux Magazine”)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Was it? Got a link?

For reference, YES, that was me. It&#039;s nice to be recognised for something positive.

Unless you&#039;re a hit-man from Compro. Then it&#039;s not so nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Jo, going off topic for a second can I ask, are you the same Jo Shields that challenged a GPL violation some months ago? (It was mentioned in the “Linux Magazine”)</p></blockquote>
<p>Was it? Got a link?</p>
<p>For reference, YES, that was me. It&#8217;s nice to be recognised for something positive.</p>
<p>Unless you&#8217;re a hit-man from Compro. Then it&#8217;s not so nice.</p>
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		<title>By: Goblin</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/12/27/microsoft-shills-aka-te-secrets/comment-page-4/#comment-56448</link>
		<dc:creator>Goblin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 00:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jo, going off topic for a second can I ask, are you the same Jo Shields that challenged a GPL violation some months ago? (It was mentioned in the &quot;Linux Magazine&quot;)

Or is it a coincidence of name?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jo, going off topic for a second can I ask, are you the same Jo Shields that challenged a GPL violation some months ago? (It was mentioned in the &#8220;Linux Magazine&#8221;)</p>
<p>Or is it a coincidence of name?</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/12/27/microsoft-shills-aka-te-secrets/comment-page-4/#comment-56352</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 22:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What does that have to do with Sun?</description>
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		<title>By: jo Shields</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/12/27/microsoft-shills-aka-te-secrets/comment-page-4/#comment-56349</link>
		<dc:creator>jo Shields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 22:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unless Sun do it, then it&#039;s A-OK?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unless Sun do it, then it&#8217;s A-OK?</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/12/27/microsoft-shills-aka-te-secrets/comment-page-4/#comment-56344</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 22:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My opinion differs from Andre&#039;s. I view all corporate lobbying as illegitimate and I am opposed to many forms of advertising, which are -- plainly speaking -- about deception of minds. I also think that lobbying leads to governments which turn against their citizens, in favour of corporations (i.e. chosen few, or &quot;elites&quot;).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My opinion differs from Andre&#8217;s. I view all corporate lobbying as illegitimate and I am opposed to many forms of advertising, which are &#8212; plainly speaking &#8212; about deception of minds. I also think that lobbying leads to governments which turn against their citizens, in favour of corporations (i.e. chosen few, or &#8220;elites&#8221;).</p>
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		<title>By: Goblin</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/12/27/microsoft-shills-aka-te-secrets/comment-page-4/#comment-56341</link>
		<dc:creator>Goblin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 22:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah.

Sorry then, I misinterpretted his post (can I make excuse of being tired???)

I took it as an attempt to justify the action by comparing it to other sinister practices in the world.

My mistake!
Best Wishes
Goblin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah.</p>
<p>Sorry then, I misinterpretted his post (can I make excuse of being tired???)</p>
<p>I took it as an attempt to justify the action by comparing it to other sinister practices in the world.</p>
<p>My mistake!<br />
Best Wishes<br />
Goblin.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/12/27/microsoft-shills-aka-te-secrets/comment-page-3/#comment-56330</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 21:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, Andre is actually one of the &quot;Good Guys&quot;, not as in James Plamondon’s &quot;Besides — we&#039;re the good guys!&quot; (yes, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.groklaw.net/articlebasic.php?story=20071023002351958&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;he said exactly that&lt;/a&gt; about himself and his fellow AstroTurf recruits).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, Andre is actually one of the &#8220;Good Guys&#8221;, not as in James Plamondon’s &#8220;Besides — we&#8217;re the good guys!&#8221; (yes, <a href="http://www.groklaw.net/articlebasic.php?story=20071023002351958" rel="nofollow">he said exactly that</a> about himself and his fellow AstroTurf recruits).</p>
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		<title>By: Goblin</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2008/12/27/microsoft-shills-aka-te-secrets/comment-page-3/#comment-56324</link>
		<dc:creator>Goblin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 21:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Firstly Roy, what a great piece of journalism, and as always I am so pleased that I found your site all those months ago.

I am wondering if the poster Andre is the famous Andre Da Costa from the threads of MS-Watch, the guy who could put a positive spin on the end of the world.

He says &quot;Likewise no one cares about “corruption” in Nigeria. What you perceive as “dirty pratices” is probably not considered “dirty” in the US but a common “smart” marketing method.&quot;

Er, Andre, I care about corruption in Nigeria, and just because something is happening elsewhere does that excuse the behaviour?  What a silly argument.  It is NOT a &quot;smart&quot; marketing method, unless your intention is to deceive/mislead or tell lies.  If you are prepared to do that to sell your product then I suppose it is.

Andre most people take pride in their integrity, not sell it for a buck to pimp a product range.

Id be amazed if this wasnt Andre Da Costa.  Thats trademark Costa propaganda and ideology there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Firstly Roy, what a great piece of journalism, and as always I am so pleased that I found your site all those months ago.</p>
<p>I am wondering if the poster Andre is the famous Andre Da Costa from the threads of MS-Watch, the guy who could put a positive spin on the end of the world.</p>
<p>He says &#8220;Likewise no one cares about “corruption” in Nigeria. What you perceive as “dirty pratices” is probably not considered “dirty” in the US but a common “smart” marketing method.&#8221;</p>
<p>Er, Andre, I care about corruption in Nigeria, and just because something is happening elsewhere does that excuse the behaviour?  What a silly argument.  It is NOT a &#8220;smart&#8221; marketing method, unless your intention is to deceive/mislead or tell lies.  If you are prepared to do that to sell your product then I suppose it is.</p>
<p>Andre most people take pride in their integrity, not sell it for a buck to pimp a product range.</p>
<p>Id be amazed if this wasnt Andre Da Costa.  Thats trademark Costa propaganda and ideology there.</p>
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