Comments on: Quick Mention: Mono Goes Fighting Java on Android http://techrights.org/2009/01/06/mono-android-intrusion/ Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those threatened by software freedom Tue, 07 Feb 2012 14:00:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: AlexH http://techrights.org/2009/01/06/mono-android-intrusion/comment-page-24/#comment-57695 AlexH Wed, 07 Jan 2009 19:04:06 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/06/mono-android-intrusion/#comment-57695 You don't seem to be very hasty to talk on behalf of companies... You don’t seem to be very hasty to talk on behalf of companies…

]]> By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2009/01/06/mono-android-intrusion/comment-page-24/#comment-57692 Roy Schestowitz Wed, 07 Jan 2009 18:21:47 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/06/mono-android-intrusion/#comment-57692 I know the risks and so does Red Hat. Based on what I know, the issues leave Red Hat concerned. I know the risks and so does Red Hat. Based on what I know, the issues leave Red Hat concerned.

]]> By: AlexH http://techrights.org/2009/01/06/mono-android-intrusion/comment-page-24/#comment-57690 AlexH Wed, 07 Jan 2009 18:14:42 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/06/mono-android-intrusion/#comment-57690 @Baby: not sure if it's either "does not know" or "does not want to know". @Baby: not sure if it’s either “does not know” or “does not want to know”.

]]> By: Baby In The Bath Water http://techrights.org/2009/01/06/mono-android-intrusion/comment-page-24/#comment-57686 Baby In The Bath Water Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:14:18 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/06/mono-android-intrusion/#comment-57686 I doubt AlexH needs to ask, he already knows the answer. It's clear, however, that Roy does not know. <font color="#ff0000"><b>Note</b>: this comment was <a href="http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/09/novell-is-heckling-critics/" rel="nofollow">posted from Novell's headquarters</a>. I doubt AlexH needs to ask, he already knows the answer. It’s clear, however, that Roy does not know.

Note: this comment was posted from Novell’s headquarters.

]]> By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2009/01/06/mono-android-intrusion/comment-page-24/#comment-57685 Roy Schestowitz Wed, 07 Jan 2009 16:44:01 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/06/mono-android-intrusion/#comment-57685 If you urgently want an answer, why not ask them? You do, after all, participate in some Fedora stuff, right? If you urgently want an answer, why not ask them? You do, after all, participate in some Fedora stuff, right?

]]> By: AlexH http://techrights.org/2009/01/06/mono-android-intrusion/comment-page-23/#comment-57684 AlexH Wed, 07 Jan 2009 16:29:48 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/06/mono-android-intrusion/#comment-57684 Manyana, manyana, for now the speculation continues. (btw, an "open letter" isn't the same as "doing research". One is passive, the other is active.) Manyana, manyana, for now the speculation continues.

(btw, an “open letter” isn’t the same as “doing research”. One is passive, the other is active.)

]]> By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2009/01/06/mono-android-intrusion/comment-page-23/#comment-57683 Roy Schestowitz Wed, 07 Jan 2009 16:27:21 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/06/mono-android-intrusion/#comment-57683 Maybe we'll do an open letter some day. Not today.. Maybe we’ll do an open letter some day. Not today..

]]> By: AlexH http://techrights.org/2009/01/06/mono-android-intrusion/comment-page-23/#comment-57682 AlexH Wed, 07 Jan 2009 16:25:06 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/06/mono-android-intrusion/#comment-57682 What's the betting that you haven't done the simple thing, which would be to do the research: drop them an e-mail and actually ask. Your wild speculation that they were somehow bamboozled into distributing a legally dodgy product is far-fetched. What’s the betting that you haven’t done the simple thing, which would be to do the research: drop them an e-mail and actually ask.

Your wild speculation that they were somehow bamboozled into distributing a legally dodgy product is far-fetched.

]]> By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2009/01/06/mono-android-intrusion/comment-page-23/#comment-57681 Roy Schestowitz Wed, 07 Jan 2009 16:23:02 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/06/mono-android-intrusion/#comment-57681 <a href="http://boycottnovell.com/2008/06/19/mono-in-fedora-mystery/" rel="nofollow">Not true</a>. Not true.

]]> By: Dan O'Brian http://techrights.org/2009/01/06/mono-android-intrusion/comment-page-23/#comment-57680 Dan O'Brian Wed, 07 Jan 2009 16:20:07 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/06/mono-android-intrusion/#comment-57680 Roy: Red Hat's legal dept found Mono to be safe. They didn't just include it because other people were. Roy: Red Hat’s legal dept found Mono to be safe. They didn’t just include it because other people were.

]]> By: AlexH http://techrights.org/2009/01/06/mono-android-intrusion/comment-page-22/#comment-57679 AlexH Wed, 07 Jan 2009 16:19:55 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/06/mono-android-intrusion/#comment-57679 You saying "ooh, it's bad" also doesn't de-legitimise it. The majority opinion is settled on this matter. You saying “ooh, it’s bad” also doesn’t de-legitimise it.

The majority opinion is settled on this matter.

]]> By: Dan O'Brian http://techrights.org/2009/01/06/mono-android-intrusion/comment-page-22/#comment-57678 Dan O'Brian Wed, 07 Jan 2009 16:18:58 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/06/mono-android-intrusion/#comment-57678 <blockquote>Wine can in principle be disposed of without affecting the applications</blockquote> Not if the only apps available to do the task needed are Windows-only.

Wine can in principle be disposed of without affecting the applications

Not if the only apps available to do the task needed are Windows-only.

]]> By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2009/01/06/mono-android-intrusion/comment-page-22/#comment-57677 Roy Schestowitz Wed, 07 Jan 2009 16:16:13 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/06/mono-android-intrusion/#comment-57677 Practice does not legitimise bad decisions just as being a law does not make it ethical or worth obeying. Practice does not legitimise bad decisions just as being a law does not make it ethical or worth obeying.

]]> By: AlexH http://techrights.org/2009/01/06/mono-android-intrusion/comment-page-22/#comment-57676 AlexH Wed, 07 Jan 2009 16:14:01 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/06/mono-android-intrusion/#comment-57676 No, the same doesn't apply. No distro excludes Mono, including those with the most stringent free software standards. No, the same doesn’t apply. No distro excludes Mono, including those with the most stringent free software standards.

]]> By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2009/01/06/mono-android-intrusion/comment-page-22/#comment-57675 Roy Schestowitz Wed, 07 Jan 2009 16:13:03 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/06/mono-android-intrusion/#comment-57675 <blockquote>A non-free solution implementing a non-free standard does nothing to advance the “free desktop”. The Free Software community needs Free content creation tools which support open and unencumbered standards, not proprietary products only available from a single source. </blockquote> The same applies to Mono.

A non-free solution implementing a non-free standard does nothing to advance the “free desktop”. The Free Software community needs Free content creation tools which support open and unencumbered standards, not proprietary products only available from a single source.

The same applies to Mono.

]]> By: AlexH http://techrights.org/2009/01/06/mono-android-intrusion/comment-page-21/#comment-57674 AlexH Wed, 07 Jan 2009 16:12:17 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/06/mono-android-intrusion/#comment-57674 @saulgoode: precisely why I originally said the legal status of silverlight needs to be cleared up. If it can't be used, then something else is needed. @saulgoode: precisely why I originally said the legal status of silverlight needs to be cleared up. If it can’t be used, then something else is needed.

]]> By: saulgoode http://techrights.org/2009/01/06/mono-android-intrusion/comment-page-21/#comment-57673 saulgoode Wed, 07 Jan 2009 16:09:53 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/06/mono-android-intrusion/#comment-57673 <blockquote>That attitude holds back the free desktop. It needs high quality content creation tools which rival Adobe’s. The free software community is not a passive consumer.</blockquote> A non-free solution implementing a non-free standard does nothing to advance the "free desktop". The Free Software community needs Free content creation tools which support open and unencumbered standards, not proprietary products only available from a single source.

That attitude holds back the free desktop. It needs high quality content creation tools which rival Adobe’s. The free software community is not a passive consumer.

A non-free solution implementing a non-free standard does nothing to advance the “free desktop”. The Free Software community needs Free content creation tools which support open and unencumbered standards, not proprietary products only available from a single source.

]]> By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2009/01/06/mono-android-intrusion/comment-page-21/#comment-57672 Roy Schestowitz Wed, 07 Jan 2009 16:09:50 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/06/mono-android-intrusion/#comment-57672 Wine can in principle be disposed of without affecting the applications; unlike... say... Mono. Wine can in principle be disposed of without affecting the applications; unlike… say… Mono.

]]> By: Dan O'Brian http://techrights.org/2009/01/06/mono-android-intrusion/comment-page-21/#comment-57670 Dan O'Brian Wed, 07 Jan 2009 16:03:45 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/06/mono-android-intrusion/#comment-57670 Oh, and lets not forget about putting ourselves in jeopardy over patents if we use Wine! Oh, and lets not forget about putting ourselves in jeopardy over patents if we use Wine!

]]> By: Dan O'Brian http://techrights.org/2009/01/06/mono-android-intrusion/comment-page-21/#comment-57668 Dan O'Brian Wed, 07 Jan 2009 16:02:39 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/06/mono-android-intrusion/#comment-57668 And by Roy, no less! And by Roy, no less!

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