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IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: January 12th, 2009 – Part 2

Posted in IRC Logs at 5:40 am by Dr. Roy Schestowitz

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schestowitz Google FUD: “Apparently ye average innocuous search – ie “how big is my carbon footprint?” – produces 7g of CO2 whilst a boiling kettle generates about 15g. Don’t even get us started on Googling WHILST drinking a cuppa.” http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/35… Jan 12 18:28
schestowitz Why don’t they say how much pollution Microsoft generates for running such services that almost nobody uses??? Jan 12 18:28
schestowitz It’s similar to yesterday’s Greenpeace message, which Wintel press only uses to target Microsoft competitors while ignoring Microsoft. Jan 12 18:29
schestowitz Not Quite The Full Story On The Environmental Impact Of Google Searches < http://techdirt.com/articles/200901… > Jan 12 18:30
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schestowitz Seagate CEO jumped ship: Seagate replaces CEO < http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/01… > Jan 12 18:45
schestowitz Dixon’s Web site is down… but it runs Apache, so…… Jan 12 18:45
schestowitz let the remixes begin (UPDATED) < http://www.lessig.org/blog/2009/01/le… > Jan 12 18:48
schestowitz Colbert is an idiot Jan 12 18:50
tessier_ Colbert from the Colbert Report? Or some other Colbert? Jan 12 18:55
schestowitz *LOL* http://www.penny-lane.com/sk/Colclough%20-%20Pl… Jan 12 18:56
schestowitz This is great! Jan 12 18:56
schestowitz tessier: he’s giving Lessig a hard time. Watch it. Jan 12 18:56
schestowitz http://duckdown.blogspot.com/2009/01/random-thou… Jan 12 18:58
tessier_ Colbert is a comedian. It’s his job. Jan 12 18:59
schestowitz I know, but he disrupted Lessig’s message a lot… he didn’t get to get the point across, IMHO Jan 12 19:03
schestowitz http://opendotdotdot.blogspot.com/2009/0… “Is Google Running Short of Hackers? – How hard can it be porting Chrome to GNU/Linux? Hard, apparently…” MinceR’s gonna love this.. Jan 12 19:03
MinceR they should have designed it on a multiplatform library, like any clueful software engineering would Jan 12 19:04
MinceR sadly, google has a dire shortage of clueful software engineers Jan 12 19:04
schestowitz They hire from MS Jan 12 19:04
schestowitz That’s what I was told wrt thing like Picasa (DirectX) and some ActiveX stuff they put on the Web Jan 12 19:04
MinceR lol Jan 12 19:05
MinceR s/ing// Jan 12 19:05
MinceR elsewhere i’ve read that they’ve managed to move off WinHTTP already Jan 12 19:05
schestowitz They have a good future ahead of them. Jan 12 19:06
schestowitz I couldn’t help but think how frantic MJF and other professional MS fans must be… when I saw her blog earlier Jan 12 19:06
schestowitz Some years ago they bothered writing about the company’s criminal activities because they felt some complacency. Now they are just MS salespeople with blogs. Jan 12 19:07
schestowitz Pro-mafia Facebook pages cause alarm in Italy << http://www.reuters.com/article/technol… >> Jan 12 19:09
*PeterKraus is now known as PetoKraus Jan 12 19:14
PetoKraus considering freenode runs gentoo Jan 12 19:15
PetoKraus the maintenance downtime was quite quick Jan 12 19:15
schestowitz Maybe they compiled on a test box Jan 12 19:17
PetoKraus :) Jan 12 19:18
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trmanco http://www.iowamicrosoftcase.com/ Jan 12 19:41
tessier_ Speaking of class actions… Jan 12 19:42
tessier_ I received a letter in the mail. I didn’t notice it was addressed to a previous owner of the house (some 10+ years ago) until after I had already opened and read it. It was a class action suit settlement check. For $10. Whoopie-freakin-doo. Jan 12 19:43
tessier_ I’ve received one of those before also. I forget what for. But I got just a few bucks out of it. Jan 12 19:43
tessier_ I’ve never known anyone who made anything more than enough to buy dinner with from a class action suit. The lawyers sure cleaned up though. Jan 12 19:44
trmanco :-P Jan 12 19:44
trmanco LOL Jan 12 19:45
trmanco msn got back online Jan 12 19:45
trmanco wait, maybe I’m dreaming Jan 12 19:45
trmanco no I’m not Jan 12 19:46
trmanco it is back online Jan 12 19:46
trmanco yep, people can confirm this Jan 12 19:48
trmanco https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pidg… se the latest comments Jan 12 19:48
trmanco see* Jan 12 19:48
trmanco crappy servers :| Jan 12 19:48
schestowitz http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/12/msn-goes… Jan 12 19:49
trmanco LOL Jan 12 19:50
trmanco nice one Jan 12 19:50
schestowitz Wow. A lot of people sure noticed this. Jan 12 19:50
trmanco yes Jan 12 19:50
trmanco and it was not a pidgin issue, it was a server side issue Jan 12 19:51
trmanco the pidgin devs said this Jan 12 19:51
schestowitz But was it affecting just Pidgin users? Jan 12 19:51
trmanco no Jan 12 19:51
schestowitz MSN too? Jan 12 19:51
trmanco purple based IM?s Jan 12 19:51
schestowitz Ahh.. Jan 12 19:51
trmanco no Jan 12 19:51
schestowitz What’s Purple for? Jan 12 19:51
trmanco the proprietary program works Jan 12 19:51
schestowitz Orange for IM? ;-) Jan 12 19:51
schestowitz Wow. Linux news sure got quiet Jan 12 19:52
schestowitz Many of the sites that typically report are quiet, BUT BUT BUT… it applies to all news, AFAICT Jan 12 19:52
schestowitz It’s like journalistic Depression or sumthin’; Jan 12 19:52
schestowitz So it’s good that I have Comes stuff. See if you can find typos in what I posted 5 mins ago Jan 12 19:53
trmanco http://developer.pidgin.im/wik… Jan 12 19:53
PetoKraus purple is backend Jan 12 19:55
PetoKraus ah, there’s the link :) Jan 12 19:56
trmanco I can’t access it Jan 12 19:56
trmanco don’t know why Jan 12 19:56
schestowitz Heh. Jan 12 19:57
schestowitz Rough day. Jan 12 19:57
schestowitz Also for FreeNode Jan 12 19:57
trmanco but pidgin.im works Jan 12 19:58
trmanco weird Jan 12 19:58
PetoKraus i love how the ubuntu folk doesn’t believe upstream Jan 12 20:04
schestowitz Ubuntu is not linux is not gnu is not x ;-) Jan 12 20:07
trmanco I can’t say anything in the pidgin channel Jan 12 20:07
trmanco :| Jan 12 20:07
trmanco they haven’t been warned, look at the topic Jan 12 20:08
schestowitz Blankenhorn feeds the Novell FUDsters… http://blogs.zdnet.com/open-source/?p=3276 Jan 12 20:09
trmanco ha done :) Jan 12 20:09
schestowitz Are they using Windows??/ http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/12/msn-… Jan 12 20:11
schestowitz I doubt it. Jan 12 20:11
trmanco schestowitz, yes Jan 12 20:11
trmanco I’ll give you a header Jan 12 20:11
schestowitz hehe. Jan 12 20:12
schestowitz You never command in BN Jan 12 20:12
schestowitz *comment Jan 12 20:12
*schestowitz can’t spell while talking on phone.. Jan 12 20:12
trmanco I’m s little shy Jan 12 20:14
trmanco 20:15:09) soap: current HTTP/1.1 200 OK Jan 12 20:14
trmanco Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:15:07 GMT Jan 12 20:14
trmanco Server: Microsoft-IIS/6.0 Jan 12 20:14
schestowitz Segway inventor wants to know: When should I quit? < http://edition.cnn.com/2009/LIVING/workl… > Jan 12 20:14
trmanco X-Powered-By: ASP.NET Jan 12 20:14
trmanco X-AspNet-Version: 2.0.50727 Jan 12 20:14
trmanco there you go Jan 12 20:15
trmanco ok I’ll comment Jan 12 20:17
schestowitz I just have Jan 12 20:19
trmanco http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/12/msn-g… Jan 12 20:20
trmanco oops Jan 12 20:20
trmanco 1 minute faster schestowitz Jan 12 20:20
schestowitz :-) Jan 12 20:21
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Omar87 Hey all Jan 12 20:22
Omar87 schestowitz: I heard that MS servers couldn’t handle the Windows 7 beta downloaders. Jan 12 20:22
Omar87 schestowitz: And that there were no more than 2 milion downloaders. Jan 12 20:23
twitter They tried to spin it as massive demand.  I can’t imagine 2 million. Jan 12 20:23
twitter They did their best to encourage people – they said that only 2.5 million could have one, so that even causal observers would try to get one to avoid fake scarcity. Jan 12 20:25
Omar87 twitter: But as someone told me, that MS servers failed to handle this load, how true is this? Jan 12 20:26
twitter When the “big demand” hit, they pulled the plug, screaming “there’s too much demand.”  Five people could have hit it and the same result would have come out. Jan 12 20:26
trmanco LOL Jan 12 20:26
twitter There’s no telling what’s true or not when you are talking to a liar like M$. Jan 12 20:26
trmanco Jan 12 20:26
Omar87 twitter: That’s 100% true. :) Jan 12 20:27
trmanco nice one >> “When the “big demand” hit, they pulled the plug, screaming “there’s too much demand.”  Five people could have hit it and the same result would have come out.” Jan 12 20:27
Omar87 :) Jan 12 20:27
Omar87 Everything will be revealed when Vista 7 is out. Jan 12 20:28
Omar87 And after that, they will have no chance to lie. Jan 12 20:28
twitter Something resembling truth may come out in five years in either the next anti-trust suit or shareholder lawsuits from the failed company.  They you will be able to read their emails and see what they thought, or at least told each other. Jan 12 20:29
twitter *Then Jan 12 20:29
Omar87 As their lies won’t work at all, since the consumer is gonna try it for himself and if he’s not satisfied then that’s it. Jan 12 20:29
twitter Kennedy had an early look at the mess and declared it Vista. Jan 12 20:30
twitter I’m not sure how many people they will be able to sucker into trying it next time. Jan 12 20:30
twitter Vista was such a burn, you would think people would be shy now. Jan 12 20:31
twitter M$ probably pulled the 2.5 and 2 million numbers out of news about Firefox and OO downloads.  It’s doubtful as many people would be interested in something that would take as much work as a Vista install without some good reviews. Jan 12 20:32
twitter Right now, the reviews are mixed at best. Jan 12 20:32
twitter Roy got the fake demand story right on target the other day. Jan 12 20:32
PetoKraus well Jan 12 20:33
PetoKraus i have got mixed feelings Jan 12 20:33
twitter do share Jan 12 20:34
schestowitz You can’t judge it, either Jan 12 20:34
PetoKraus i might be interested in trying the software Jan 12 20:34
schestowitz “it’s just a betaVista” Jan 12 20:34
schestowitz Vista7, i hereby call you betavista Jan 12 20:34
schestowitz Vista minus the stability plus some gui thingies Jan 12 20:34
twitter and compatibility with some Vista applications – some reward for the M$ faithful eh? Jan 12 20:35
schestowitz Actually, since Vista 7 does not even exist yet (Microsoft wants to create the illusion that it does), it ought be be called BetaVista 7 Jan 12 20:35
schestowitz So.. Jan 12 20:35
schestowitz It’s Beta Jan 12 20:35
schestowitz It’s Vista Jan 12 20:35
schestowitz It’s 7 Jan 12 20:35
schestowitz Now put it all together Jan 12 20:35
twitter Vista Beta 7, one for each year of development? Jan 12 20:36
schestowitz They still work on improving XP Jan 12 20:36
schestowitz It’s like Coca Cola trying to improve Jan 12 20:36
twitter you misspelled “selling” Jan 12 20:36
schestowitz It makes Cherry and New Coke… then runs away to Classic before it’s dead. Jan 12 20:36
twitter DRM, the HFCS of software. Jan 12 20:37
twitter Promotes bloat, kills your computer. Jan 12 20:37
twitter I wonder if the HFCS Coke will survive Depression 2.0 http://finance.google.com/finance Jan 12 20:38
PetoKraus yeah Jan 12 20:39
PetoKraus sugar’s been laid aside Jan 12 20:39
schestowitz Because of Intel Jan 12 20:40
tessier_ What a mess. :( Jan 12 20:41
tessier_ I really hope OLPC can get its act together. Jan 12 20:41
tessier_ I’ll be bummed if I spent $400 and gave a couple of kids laptops that aren’t going anywhere. Jan 12 20:41
schestowitz Save $400 on Intel chips then. Avoid them. ;-) Jan 12 20:43
schestowitz A triple-boot system with GRUB: Debian GNU/Linux “Lenny”, FreeDOS 1.0, and Windows 98SE < http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/columns… >. Don’t people know that Win98 is zombie-happy platform? Jan 12 20:43
PetoKraus it’s for games Jan 12 20:44
schestowitz “After doing a lot of other things while Visaster SP2 (Windows 7) installed” http://community.zdnet.co.uk/blog/0,10000… I remember saying “Visaster” like two years ago Jan 12 20:44
schestowitz [H]omer called it MEII and Charlie from the Inquirer ‘borrowed’ his name Jan 12 20:45
schestowitz PetoKraus: yes, that’s what the crackers say Jan 12 20:45
PetoKraus well Jan 12 20:45
PetoKraus but i wanna play my mechwarrior 2! Jan 12 20:45
schestowitz It’s like a game of Risk with botnets Jan 12 20:45
tessier_ http://www.xconomy.com/seattle/2009/01/12/mi… Jan 12 20:49
tessier_ Despite the economy, he says, Amazon and Microsoft “seem to be really hiring in full swing” on the MIT campus. Jan 12 20:49
PetoKraus two 10″ pizzas and i’m full Jan 12 20:49
tessier_ WTF? Are they hiring or are they laying off? Are they booming or teetering on disaster? I’m so confused! Jan 12 20:49
schestowitz http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7222 (Google Chrome Dumps WinHTTP, Linux Version Inevitable) Jan 12 20:50
PetoKraus first year student Jan 12 20:50
PetoKraus can’t know a ***k Jan 12 20:50
twitter talk is cheap and many companies visit universities more for PR reasons than hiring. Jan 12 20:50
trmanco chrome more “open source” Jan 12 20:50
PetoKraus Words are worthless cause they’re free Jan 12 20:51
PetoKraus says Josh Homme Jan 12 20:51
twitter I worked at a fortune 100 company and saw this from the inside.  Everyone wanted to put on their best face for the world. Jan 12 20:51
schestowitz Students are cheaper Jan 12 20:52
twitter That too. Jan 12 20:52
schestowitz Microsoft also opened some centers in China last year Jan 12 20:52
schestowitz IBM in India.. Jan 12 20:52
schestowitz They fire in the US, then they can hire where it’s cheaper Jan 12 20:52
schestowitz But Microsoft-Abramoff used corruption to also import cheap labour Jan 12 20:52
twitter But students are not always cheaper if the company has kept salaries up with inflation. Jan 12 20:53
PetoKraus actually i lied Jan 12 20:53
schestowitz Instead of colonies they do the equivalent of buying slavery or doing wage slavery as it’s called Jan 12 20:53
PetoKraus the proper quote is: “Words are weightless here on earth because they’re free” Jan 12 20:53
*PetoKraus hides in shame Jan 12 20:53
PetoKraus the most funny part is Jan 12 20:54
PetoKraus that I guess I violated copyright by using that phrase… it’s lyrics, therefore it’s covered by some strange and insane copyright law Jan 12 20:54
tessier_ PetoKraus: Don’t sing happy birthday in a public place. Jan 12 20:54
PetoKraus why? Jan 12 20:54
PetoKraus is it © as well? Jan 12 20:55
schestowitz Not enforced Jan 12 20:59
schestowitz What happens if you do it in a stadium or TV, I wonder… Jan 12 20:59
PetoKraus here’s a bit of fun from slovakia: http://www.ceskenoviny.cz/news/ind… Jan 12 21:00
PetoKraus our Prime Minister is a Tough Guy™ Jan 12 21:00
schestowitz Does Hotmail expire accounts after a perdiod of inactivity? Jan 12 21:06
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PetoKraus schestowitz: i am not aware of that Jan 12 21:09
schestowitz I’ve just tried logging in with a 5+ year-old account that I needed to create to talk to this girl (she used MSN and I was reluctant to join of course). ikickedbillgates@hotmail.com is no longer on their system. ;-) Jan 12 21:10
twitter maddoff avoids jail http://www.guardian.co.uk/busines… Jan 12 21:11
schestowitz Gasp Jan 12 21:11
schestowitz Corrupt rich people can get away with mur.. genocide Jan 12 21:11
schestowitz You still have some of them around the White House, so.. Jan 12 21:11
PetoKraus maddox has new article Jan 12 21:12
PetoKraus oh man, he owns Jan 12 21:12
schestowitz He should get  Chair Jan 12 21:12
schestowitz Not chairman of NASDAQ Jan 12 21:12
twitter CES attendance down 23% Jan 12 21:13
twitter http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgat… Jan 12 21:13
schestowitz Only in America.. shoplift some tomatoes cause you’re hungry, get arrested. Steal from millions of people, get a slap on the wrist Jan 12 21:14
twitter Wow, here’s a bomb for you, ” Most personal-computer makers aren’t expecting Microsoft Corp.’s (MSFT) new Windows 7 operating system software to provide much of a sales spark when it debuts later this year, an influential investment analyst says.” Jan 12 21:14
twitter http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/… Jan 12 21:14
schestowitz CES is dead on.. or dead Jan 12 21:14
twitter so much for the hype demand Jan 12 21:14
schestowitz Alll those extravagant shows remind me of Hollywood. Jan 12 21:14
twitter ->PC makers aren’t holding out much hope because they “feel burned by Vista,” Jan 12 21:15
schestowitz Tortured horse, explosions, wrecked cars and 150-million-dollar budget for a film that can’t match something simple with romanticism Jan 12 21:15
schestowitz “debuts later this year”? Jan 12 21:16
schestowitz That’s BS Jan 12 21:16
schestowitz Microsoft denied/decline to confirm this Jan 12 21:16
schestowitz Vapourware classics Jan 12 21:16
twitter Big picture, Vista 7 is stillborn. Jan 12 21:16
schestowitz Windows Vapourware… in 2 years… (2003) Jan 12 21:16
twitter no one is ramping up for it. Jan 12 21:16
twitter M$ credibility is zero for the whole industry. Jan 12 21:17
schestowitz http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=b9ifQvQCO7Y Jan 12 21:17
schestowitz Lots of work on faking stuff and making mockups Jan 12 21:17
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trmanco 7 review -> http://gulma.homelinux.org/wordpress/?p=1493 Jan 12 21:26
trmanco but not that “7″ Jan 12 21:26
trmanco in PT btw Jan 12 21:26
twitter That Longhorn video is some trashy. Jan 12 21:30
twitter October 2003, LMAO. Jan 12 21:31
schestowitz CES 2009! http://www.raiden.net/?cat=2&ai… Jan 12 21:32
trmanco http://lwat.blogspot.com/2009/01/goog… Jan 12 21:33
twitter http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op… Jan 12 21:34
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schestowitz Wow, so 7 *is* out… not 7.1? Jan 12 21:37
twitter It’s interesting how the “Longhorn” desktop mockup looks a lot like the Vista Beta 7 desktop. Jan 12 21:37
schestowitz Check this out: http://www.channelinsider.com/c/a/News/Di… Jan 12 21:39
schestowitz Someone just buzzed me about it Jan 12 21:39
schestowitz Guess who ‘won’? Jan 12 21:39
schestowitz Numero uno: http://boycottnovell.com/wp-content/upload… Jan 12 21:40
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schestowitz Maybe BN will become BM[icrosoft] some time soon… assuming Microsoft buys Novell Jan 12 21:40
schestowitz Which is becoming more liekly all the time Jan 12 21:40
schestowitz I’ll do a post to explain why. Other people have said the same for ages Jan 12 21:41
twitter Congratulations, your EDGI story is /. FP material, 2009-01-10 17:20:58 How M$ Beats GNU/Linux in Schools. (Your Rights Online,Microsoft) (accepted) Jan 12 21:44
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schestowitz Oh oh. Jan 12 21:53
schestowitz /.? Jan 12 21:54
*schestowitz makes db backup Jan 12 21:54
trmanco http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5oGaZIKYvo Jan 12 21:55
schestowitz We endured /, effects (not Digg) and this one is a large page though. Jan 12 21:56
schestowitz I’ll use Corral if it does not respons. Jan 12 21:57
schestowitz I’ll use Corral if it does not respond. Jan 12 21:57
schestowitz trmanco: is he talking about Zune? Jan 12 21:57
trmanco schestowitz, yeah Jan 12 21:57
trmanco and millions of million of million of phones a year Jan 12 21:58
trmanco … whatever Jan 12 21:58
schestowitz What page is references, twitter? Jan 12 21:59
schestowitz *renced Jan 12 21:59
trmanco http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxpla… Jan 12 21:59
schestowitz Look how he twisted the headline on the old article Jan 12 22:00
schestowitz Made it anti OOo Jan 12 22:00
schestowitz Showing his true colours Jan 12 22:00
schestowitz Subheadline: “Sun and OOo Are Dying–Again” Jan 12 22:00
schestowitz twitter: which page is cited? Jan 12 22:03
twitter I got the acceptance news when submitting.  It should turn up on the front page sooner or later. Jan 12 22:03
schestowitz But which page is refrenced? Jan 12 22:04
schestowitz I need to divert it to Corral Jan 12 22:04
twitter let me dig it up Jan 12 22:04
twitter http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=… Jan 12 22:05
twitter points to http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/10/ed… Jan 12 22:05
twitter and http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/04/mic… Jan 12 22:05
twitter and http://boycottnovell.com/2007/08… Jan 12 22:05
schestowitz Thanks. Jan 12 22:05
twitter you are welcome.  I can’t say what, if any, of those links will show up. Jan 12 22:05
schestowitz I needed to apologise to the host before… Jan 12 22:06
schestowitz It can’t take these things well Jan 12 22:06
trmanco http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.d… Jan 12 22:07
twitter Sounds like they should apologize to you. Jan 12 22:07
twitter but I understand their point of view. Jan 12 22:07
schestowitz It doesn’t redirect for some reason Jan 12 22:10
schestowitz Hmm.. I can’t get the redirect to work Jan 12 22:13
twitter here it is.  http://news.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=… Jan 12 22:17
schestowitz .htaccess won’t let me redirect: http://boycottnovell.com.nyud.net:8080/200… Jan 12 22:17
schestowitz ” Not subscriber, or not subscribed page” Jan 12 22:18
schestowitz If you follow the links, e.g. http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/…, it won’t move to /boycottnovell.com.nyud.net:8080, will it? Jan 12 22:18
twitter I don’t know.  Looks like it did before. Jan 12 22:20
schestowitz When? Jan 12 22:21
schestowitz Did it redirect for you earlier? Jan 12 22:21
twitter no Jan 12 22:21
schestowitz Oh. Jan 12 22:21
schestowitz Ah! Jan 12 22:22
schestowitz Got it Jan 12 22:22
schestowitz Missing slashes Jan 12 22:22
schestowitz Try now Jan 12 22:22
twitter redirect … slow but there. Jan 12 22:23
schestowitz Cool. Jan 12 22:23
schestowitz Better slow than down Jan 12 22:23
schestowitz And down means down… maybe for half a day and trouble from the host Jan 12 22:23
schestowitz I’ve become afarid of these sites Jan 12 22:23
schestowitz And the page you cite is like 500kb per pageview Jan 12 22:23
twitter That’s where the info is.  Glad you got it hooked up. Jan 12 22:24
schestowitz So for 20,000 visits that can be almost a megabyte each assuming others stay and explore other pages Jan 12 22:24
twitter It was lucky I saw it. Jan 12 22:24
schestowitz Keep an eye in case Corel falls on us. It screwed badly before. Jan 12 22:24
schestowitz it’s in FP Jan 12 22:41
schestowitz Coral caoughed on the Quinn link so I had to remove the redirect Jan 12 22:42
schestowitz “Peter” is misspelled BTW Jan 12 22:42
schestowitz They fixed the typo Jan 12 22:54
twitter typo :) Jan 12 23:00
schestowitz Slashdot is broken right now Jan 12 23:00
twitter Now I can’t see the story.  I get an error, “The network link was interrupted while negotiating a connection. Please try again.” Jan 12 23:00
schestowitz Almost anything you click gives an error Jan 12 23:00
twitter ah Jan 12 23:00
schestowitz This has gone on since you made FP Jan 12 23:00
schestowitz No story can be viewed Jan 12 23:00
schestowitz Even the poll widgets gives an error Jan 12 23:01
twitter coincidence? Jan 12 23:01
schestowitz Naa.. Jan 12 23:01
schestowitz Steve threw a chair at em ;-) Jan 12 23:01
twitter He might have. Jan 12 23:01
schestowitz I checked my RSS feeds Jan 12 23:01
schestowitz Those new items don’t appear yet Jan 12 23:01
schestowitz Slashdot has halted Jan 12 23:01
schestowitz I guess it’s not too bad as long as top story is this one Jan 12 23:02
twitter No, it’s bad that the story won’t get the attention it deserves. Jan 12 23:02
twitter The editors will move along. Jan 12 23:02
schestowitz No comment. :-) Jan 12 23:02
schestowitz I don’t mind because it’s not something I control or can prevent. Jan 12 23:03
schestowitz From my POV, if I miss /my/ chance to prevent my server from going AWOL, then I have myself to blame Jan 12 23:03
schestowitz As for Slashdot, well… Jan 12 23:03
twitter Crime can never be prevented. Jan 12 23:03
schestowitz Same with the global ecnomy Jan 12 23:03
schestowitz It doesn’t matter how you feel about it or do about it (or pray for something), it is a problem of 6 billion people. Jan 12 23:04
twitter subscribers were able to see the story, so the fail came shortly after. Jan 12 23:07
twitter Slashdot is back.  Story is subscriber only or gone. Jan 12 23:10
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twitter It must have been a big chair. Jan 12 23:11
schestowitz Probably queued Jan 12 23:11
schestowitz No, if it was censorship, they wouldn’t break the /whole/ site Jan 12 23:12
schestowitz Maybe they resorted from bckup Jan 12 23:12
schestowitz Internal Server Error Jan 12 23:12
schestowitz No, they are still f* Jan 12 23:12
schestowitz No new comments and error if you try to view stories. Jan 12 23:12
twitter Could have been external censorship – the chair throw. Jan 12 23:12
schestowitz “Please contact the server administrator, pater@slashdot.org and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.” Jan 12 23:12
schestowitz Na.. unlikely Jan 12 23:13
schestowitz Remember Wikileaks Jan 12 23:13
schestowitz DNS block or something Jan 12 23:13
schestowitz http://www.zmag.org/znet/vi… Jan 12 23:13
schestowitz “On February 18, bloggers reported the unprecedented attempt by Bank Julius Baer to censor the Wikileaks.org web site by having a San Francisco judge issue a restraining order telling the web site’s domain name registrar to stop Wikileak.org from pointing to its actual IP address, 88.80.13.160. “ Jan 12 23:14
*trmanco has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jan 12 23:14
schestowitz “. This was the first know instance of a court shutting down an entire web site. One Kafkaesque feature of this omnibus order is that the court order and other materials were ordered to be emailed to Wikileaks. But with the domain name Wikileaks.org abolished, no mail sent to them could get to anyone.” Jan 12 23:14
PetoKraus welcome to the USA Jan 12 23:15
schestowitz Microsoft paid Iowa how much? Hundreds of millions (undoclosed) just to stop this suit and lock their site for public access. Jan 12 23:15
schestowitz Shoot first, questions.. later Jan 12 23:15
PetoKraus where’s wikileaks hosted? Jan 12 23:15
schestowitz Invade a country first… then check if it has WoMD. Jan 12 23:15
schestowitz PetoKraus: I dunno Jan 12 23:16
PetoKraus schestowitz: provided that your victim didn’t buy AK47 at the newspaper stall as well Jan 12 23:16
schestowitz I can view /. stories now… but no new comments appeared for like 15 minutes Jan 12 23:16
schestowitz :-) Jan 12 23:17
schestowitz It usually takes some phonecalls and a personal with a handle on the interwebbies Jan 12 23:17
schestowitz *person Jan 12 23:17
PetoKraus how much traffic does one /. attack generate? Jan 12 23:18
twitter . Jan 12 23:18
twitter cat did that Jan 12 23:18
schestowitz cat? Jan 12 23:19
schestowitz PetoKraus: depends on the appeal of the story Jan 12 23:19
twitter yes, my cat stepped on the “.” and return key. Jan 12 23:19
schestowitz And prominence of link too, time of day, etc. Jan 12 23:19
MinceR cats rule Jan 12 23:19
MinceR gn Jan 12 23:20
schestowitz cat5 Jan 12 23:20
twitter good night Jan 12 23:20
twitter @MinceR Jan 12 23:20
twitter I’ll be up for a while Jan 12 23:20
schestowitz No new comments in /. Jan 12 23:20
PetoKraus gn Jan 12 23:20
schestowitz Still froze^H^H^Hroken Jan 12 23:20
PetoKraus twitter: so you are beranger! Jan 12 23:20
MinceR schestowitz: cat five from userfriendly? :) Jan 12 23:20
schestowitz I left Beranger Jan 12 23:20
schestowitz He blogs Winders Jan 12 23:20
PetoKraus windaes Jan 12 23:21
schestowitz Wind~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~ 1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1 Jan 12 23:21
twitter ha ha. Jan 12 23:21
*trmanco (n=trmanco@online.na.tuxSP.pt) has joined #boycottnovell Jan 12 23:21
twitter Here’s a comment.  http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/10/vista-7-hyp… Jan 12 23:21
schestowitz Prince “Jihad” Jan 12 23:21
twitter Robber barron. Jan 12 23:21
schestowitz Gates may have used the word “Jihad” again Jan 12 23:21
tessier_ http://www.seldo.com/weblog/2009/01/1… Jan 12 23:22
tessier_ You guys might get a kick out of that Jan 12 23:22
schestowitz I have quite a collection of his pen wisdom Jan 12 23:22
schestowitz Good one, tessier . Jan 12 23:23
schestowitz The story is back in //. FP Jan 12 23:24
schestowitz Comments still don’t work Jan 12 23:24
twitter cool Jan 12 23:24
schestowitz 6 comments Jan 12 23:25
schestowitz OK Jan 12 23:25
twitter Now I’m going to do something gross.  I’m going to look at microsoft.com Jan 12 23:25
twitter that’s enough of that. Jan 12 23:25
schestowitz I wonder how many comments are from MS marketing people whom I was told about (it’s a fact)? Jan 12 23:26
MinceR he gets it wrong — m$ is not a software company, m$ is a marketing company Jan 12 23:28
schestowitz The resident trolls like G Michaels are there. Jan 12 23:28
schestowitz Also a law firm Jan 12 23:29
schestowitz Because bullying and guerrilla marketing are pushing the envelope, so one must cope with judges or tire them relentlessly (or have them kicked out a la Jackson) Jan 12 23:29
tessier_ schestowitz: You could start a service offering to correlate the IP addresses of blog posters from other peoples forums with addresses of known trolls on your forums to see who is making the rounds. Jan 12 23:34
schestowitz Isn’t it topic dependent? Jan 12 23:35
schestowitz Two trolls that I label in red (there are only 3) hope between IPs. Jan 12 23:35
schestowitz I’ve just realise that I coral-ed the URLs before disabling comments Jan 12 23:36
schestowitz So if Slashdot people try to comment in the cites articles they send their comment to an abyss. Oops. Jan 12 23:36
schestowitz *cited Jan 12 23:36
PetoKraus wheeee Jan 12 23:42
PetoKraus :) me like abbys Jan 12 23:42
twitter It will be good for the likes of G. Jan 12 23:43
schestowitz G? Jan 12 23:43
schestowitz Oh, the comments.. Jan 12 23:44
schestowitz LOL Jan 12 23:44
schestowitz Like Dan and other, he spends /hours/ on some days just writing insults (comments) Jan 12 23:44
twitter Must be a full time job for them. Jan 12 23:44
PetoKraus Well I use to stand for something Now I’m on my hands and knees Trading in my god for this one and he signs his name with a capital G Jan 12 23:45
twitter The days they are not on BN, they are somewhere else. Jan 12 23:45
PetoKraus it’s funny how all the powerful people have “G” Jan 12 23:45
PetoKraus Gates, George W, God Jan 12 23:45
twitter goatse Jan 12 23:45
twitter The spinners are all over the comments in the EDGI story.  “It’s not dumping,” amazing bullshit. Jan 12 23:46
twitter dinner time. Jan 12 23:47
schestowitz That’s another story… Jan 12 23:50
schestowitz James P and the “technical evangelists” Jan 12 23:50
schestowitz They keep busy to earn “mindshare” Jan 12 23:50
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