Speaking of which:

http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2009/Jan-21.html

So, the so-called cross platform Silverlight, needs authors to explicitly make it compatible with “Linux”. In other words, I take it Moonlight is, as predicted the second class citizen here. We’ll have compatibility unless/until someone decides to stop making the moonlight version, so practical.

It would also be counter productive because I’m in good terms with him.

Maybe Icaza is at fault in part for the OOXML debacle?

Mark may have any opinion about vista7, it doesn’t really matter in this context, he like OS/X as well… Now imagine, MS was attempting to impose vista7 as an open standard and Mark said not that it is a fine product but that it is a superb standard so everybody should go for it. THAT would be an equivalent deal.

But of course, some conspiracy theorists are unable to get it, and they fool themselves into this “double standard” meme, If Novell apologists want to be taken seriously, they should really get over it. This goes for Icaza as well. That guy repeats that double standard BS as a parrot.

I still remember that one Icaza interview: “So, we want to make everything dependent on MS technology, but did you know Mozilla is doing something completely unrelated to that? THAT’s a double standard!”

So, why are you assuming he won’t be bashed?

Oh didn’t notice it was Dan, ok Dan, don’t worry, I won’t continue the discussion, you are safe, nobody is sending any black helicopter to take you.

And Mark Shuttleworth says that Vista7 is an excellent product, are you guys going to bash him now? Likely not, and why is that? Because you guys are ungrateful hypocrites with double standards.

So, why are you assuming he won’t be bashed?

And Mark Shuttleworth says that Vista7 is an excellent product, are you guys going to bash him now?

Watch the IRC logs.

I remember being bashed here is Miguel Icaza, but I cannot picture this blog without Icaza bashing, besides of a dev he is also a Novell vice president and has a tendency to say things such as “OOXML is superb standard”

And Mark Shuttleworth says that Vista7 is an excellent product, are you guys going to bash him now? Likely not, and why is that? Because you guys are ungrateful hypocrites with double standards.

I got an eee and to tell you the truth it is rather terrible out of the box. Very few repositories and a dumbed down interface.

And so that’s the question here: What are the fundamental issues? Your site targets Microsoft and Novell, but in many ways thats the exact same thinking that Microsoft displays in mindlessly FUDing their competition: Its ad hominem,

Criticizing is not necessarily an ad hominem, Roy seems to rant about Microsoft’s actions rather than Microsoft itself more often than viceversa.

The devs don’t hate open source…So, in the words of your Novell buddy, why throw out the baby with the bathwater???

I don’t remember Roy ever bashing the MS developers themselves, the only dev so far that I remember being bashed here is Miguel Icaza, but I cannot picture this blog without Icaza bashing, besides of a dev he is also a Novell vice president and has a tendency to say things such as “OOXML is superb standard” (Back when it wasn’t even a standard) Not to mention he is the guy behind Mono.

Yet all you do is criticize Microsoft software.

And here you are recommending people use the software they criticize (probably a good idea), otherwise they lack the credibility to be taken seriously?

Note: comment arrived from a witch hunter that does not even use GNU/Linux.

And so that’s the question here: What are the fundamental issues? Your site targets Microsoft and Novell, but in many ways thats the exact same thinking that Microsoft displays in mindlessly FUDing their competition: Its ad hominem, subjective rather than objective critique. Instead of attacking the legislative problems that allow unethical behavior on the part of software companies, we get caught in a red team/blue team mentality. So OF COURSE people from Novell are attacking you, you’re attacking their company. What I’ll bet you’d find surprising is how many of them would agree with you if you focused on the core issues with patents and so forth.

Because that’s the REAL issue here, its not about the movement vs. Microsoft. There is no one “movement” and there is no one “Microsoft”. Its about people who would like to produce software and make money at it vs. people who would like to litigate over software (producing nothing) and making money at that. Within Microsoft itself, you have a really talented pool of developers wanting to create progress and move forward, then you have these litigators and bean counters who’s best idea lately seems to be to copy synaptic and add it to windows, starting a trend of copying free software for features (I think the codename is ‘Windows: stick a fork in it’) hehe. The point is, one of these currents has a future, one of them does not. The devs don’t hate open source…So, in the words of your Novell buddy, why throw out the baby with the bathwater???