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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/01/24/microsoft-lobbies-for-drm/comment-page-3/#comment-59068</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, they sure warn about MP3s. Watch the quote at the top.

Steve Ballmer warned the world that &quot;The most common format of music on an iPod is “stolen”.&quot;

Was he talking about .WAV? ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, they sure warn about MP3s. Watch the quote at the top.</p>
<p>Steve Ballmer warned the world that &#8220;The most common format of music on an iPod is “stolen”.&#8221;</p>
<p>Was he talking about .WAV? <img src='http://techrights.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: David Gerard</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/01/24/microsoft-lobbies-for-drm/comment-page-3/#comment-59066</link>
		<dc:creator>David Gerard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least they warn about the MP3 one very loudly in the release notes!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least they warn about the MP3 one very loudly in the release notes!</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/01/24/microsoft-lobbies-for-drm/comment-page-3/#comment-59063</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just don&#039;t play MP3s. You might lose the files.

http://lifehacker.com/5131478/windows-7-beta-patch-fixes-mp3-bug</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just don&#8217;t play MP3s. You might lose the files.</p>
<p><a href="http://lifehacker.com/5131478/windows-7-beta-patch-fixes-mp3-bug" rel="nofollow">http://lifehacker.com/5131478/windows-7-beta-patch-fixes-mp3-bug</a></p>
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		<title>By: David Gerard</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/01/24/microsoft-lobbies-for-drm/comment-page-3/#comment-59061</link>
		<dc:creator>David Gerard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just tried playing a DivX AVI from a network share (a ripped DVD) in VLC, and got my first-ever Windows 7 blue screen! Yay!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just tried playing a DivX AVI from a network share (a ripped DVD) in VLC, and got my first-ever Windows 7 blue screen! Yay!</p>
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		<title>By: The Mad Hatter</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/01/24/microsoft-lobbies-for-drm/comment-page-2/#comment-59057</link>
		<dc:creator>The Mad Hatter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, they did a deal with the labels, because Microsoft thinks that the labels are their customer. End users will vote with their wallets on this, and Microsoft will not like the results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, they did a deal with the labels, because Microsoft thinks that the labels are their customer. End users will vote with their wallets on this, and Microsoft will not like the results.</p>
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		<title>By: David Gerard</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/01/24/microsoft-lobbies-for-drm/comment-page-2/#comment-59048</link>
		<dc:creator>David Gerard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And after &lt;a href=&quot;http://notnews.today.com/2009/01/24/microsoft-uk-launches-msn-musicturd-service/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;all my hard work&lt;/a&gt;!

I suspect they did a terrible deal with the record labels (who don&#039;t like the idea of being locked into Microsoft any more than they&#039;re enjoying being locked into Apple) and that&#039;s why the MSN UK guy &lt;i&gt;knows&lt;/i&gt; he&#039;s selling a complete turd and is past the point of despair.

The only way they could have made it worse would have been to use the Zune branding.

ps: typing this from Shiretoko (Firefox 3.1 nightlies) in Windows 7. It runs surprisingly well in a 512MB VirtualBox ... if I have &lt;i&gt;nothing else&lt;/i&gt; running on the host system. Uses power like nobody&#039;s business, though. And, of course, it&#039;s &lt;i&gt;very&lt;/i&gt; pretty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And after <a href="http://notnews.today.com/2009/01/24/microsoft-uk-launches-msn-musicturd-service/" rel="nofollow">all my hard work</a>!</p>
<p>I suspect they did a terrible deal with the record labels (who don&#8217;t like the idea of being locked into Microsoft any more than they&#8217;re enjoying being locked into Apple) and that&#8217;s why the MSN UK guy <i>knows</i> he&#8217;s selling a complete turd and is past the point of despair.</p>
<p>The only way they could have made it worse would have been to use the Zune branding.</p>
<p>ps: typing this from Shiretoko (Firefox 3.1 nightlies) in Windows 7. It runs surprisingly well in a 512MB VirtualBox &#8230; if I have <i>nothing else</i> running on the host system. Uses power like nobody&#8217;s business, though. And, of course, it&#8217;s <i>very</i> pretty.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/01/24/microsoft-lobbies-for-drm/comment-page-2/#comment-59027</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
And just to snafu Ballmer’s sunday
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m still preparing a post about mass-closure of services/products from Microsoft. The &#039;media&#039; is asleep... and too bust doing &#039;damage control&#039; for Microsoft.</description>
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And just to snafu Ballmer’s sunday
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<p>I&#8217;m still preparing a post about mass-closure of services/products from Microsoft. The &#8216;media&#8217; is asleep&#8230; and too bust doing &#8216;damage control&#8217; for Microsoft.</p>
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		<title>By: amd-linux</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/01/24/microsoft-lobbies-for-drm/comment-page-2/#comment-59026</link>
		<dc:creator>amd-linux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And just to snafu Ballmer&#039;s sunday even more:

http://www.osor.eu/news/it-venice-region-settles-on-open-source-and-open-standards

&quot; The Veneto Region, around the Italian city of Venice, has decided to move to open source software and open standards, the Italian Internet news site Zeus reports. &quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And just to snafu Ballmer&#8217;s sunday even more:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.osor.eu/news/it-venice-region-settles-on-open-source-and-open-standards" rel="nofollow">http://www.osor.eu/news/it-venice-region-settles-on-open-source-and-open-standards</a></p>
<p>&#8221; The Veneto Region, around the Italian city of Venice, has decided to move to open source software and open standards, the Italian Internet news site Zeus reports. &#8220;</p>
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		<title>By: amd-linux</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/01/24/microsoft-lobbies-for-drm/comment-page-2/#comment-59025</link>
		<dc:creator>amd-linux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;They actually treat OEMs and Hollywood as their customers. Users just don’t have much choice. These are not the customers.&quot;

And forcing the crap that results from this down their customers&#039; throats will (or already has, in the case of Vista) in a boycott of consumers - sooner or later, everybody, incl. John Doe knows that the Windows flag sticker on a PC stands for something bad.

I love to see how they pull themselves apart in slow motion. How incredibly stupid can a CEO be? How incredible stupid can shareholders be that tolerate a CEO like Ballmer who so obviously lost touch to the real world like Comical Ali? ( http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/ in case you forgot who he was).

Well, folks, please lean back, watch, relax and pass along the popcorn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;They actually treat OEMs and Hollywood as their customers. Users just don’t have much choice. These are not the customers.&#8221;</p>
<p>And forcing the crap that results from this down their customers&#8217; throats will (or already has, in the case of Vista) in a boycott of consumers &#8211; sooner or later, everybody, incl. John Doe knows that the Windows flag sticker on a PC stands for something bad.</p>
<p>I love to see how they pull themselves apart in slow motion. How incredibly stupid can a CEO be? How incredible stupid can shareholders be that tolerate a CEO like Ballmer who so obviously lost touch to the real world like Comical Ali? ( <a href="http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/</a> in case you forgot who he was).</p>
<p>Well, folks, please lean back, watch, relax and pass along the popcorn.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/01/24/microsoft-lobbies-for-drm/comment-page-1/#comment-59023</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
Microsoft doesn&#039;t understand who their customer is, and that&#039;s a problem.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

They actually treat OEMs and Hollywood as their customers. Users just don&#039;t have much choice. These are not the customers.

About 80% of the Windows licences are sold to OEMs, not the users. They are being tied to PCs.</description>
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Microsoft doesn&#8217;t understand who their customer is, and that&#8217;s a problem.
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<p>They actually treat OEMs and Hollywood as their customers. Users just don&#8217;t have much choice. These are not the customers.</p>
<p>About 80% of the Windows licences are sold to OEMs, not the users. They are being tied to PCs.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Brown</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/01/24/microsoft-lobbies-for-drm/comment-page-1/#comment-59020</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 04:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The question and answer session in the PcPro article is proof positive - just in case anybody needed any more - that Microsoft&#039;s nose dive into the compost is all but assured.  I mean, just read this!:


Q: If I buy these songs on your service - and they&#039;re locked to my phone - what happens when I upgrade my phone in six months&#039; time?

A: Well, I think you know the answer to that.

Q: Can you really expect people to buy music that&#039;s locked to a device they upgrade every 12 to 18 months?

A: I didn&#039;t realise phones were churning that quickly in the marketplace these days


In short, not only does Microsoft&#039;s DRM tie the music that you&#039;ve just paid for to your mobile phone.  When you upgrade that phone - at the end of your contract, for example - you&#039;ll have to put your hand in your pocket *again* if you want to carry on listening to that music!

Just how stupid do they think people are?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The question and answer session in the PcPro article is proof positive &#8211; just in case anybody needed any more &#8211; that Microsoft&#8217;s nose dive into the compost is all but assured.  I mean, just read this!:</p>
<p>Q: If I buy these songs on your service &#8211; and they&#8217;re locked to my phone &#8211; what happens when I upgrade my phone in six months&#8217; time?</p>
<p>A: Well, I think you know the answer to that.</p>
<p>Q: Can you really expect people to buy music that&#8217;s locked to a device they upgrade every 12 to 18 months?</p>
<p>A: I didn&#8217;t realise phones were churning that quickly in the marketplace these days</p>
<p>In short, not only does Microsoft&#8217;s DRM tie the music that you&#8217;ve just paid for to your mobile phone.  When you upgrade that phone &#8211; at the end of your contract, for example &#8211; you&#8217;ll have to put your hand in your pocket *again* if you want to carry on listening to that music!</p>
<p>Just how stupid do they think people are?</p>
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		<title>By: The Mad Hatter</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/01/24/microsoft-lobbies-for-drm/comment-page-1/#comment-59017</link>
		<dc:creator>The Mad Hatter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 03:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Microsoft doesn&#039;t understand who their customer is, and that&#039;s a problem. The end user, who is their true customer, has no interest in DRM. Rather than DRM being a feature, it&#039;s a dis-incentive to use Windows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Microsoft doesn&#8217;t understand who their customer is, and that&#8217;s a problem. The end user, who is their true customer, has no interest in DRM. Rather than DRM being a feature, it&#8217;s a dis-incentive to use Windows.</p>
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		<title>By: aeshna23</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/01/24/microsoft-lobbies-for-drm/comment-page-1/#comment-59016</link>
		<dc:creator>aeshna23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 03:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not just MSN Mobile Music.  It&#039;s also Windows 7.  I&#039;ve been using Windows 7 recently to understand the ways of the enemy.  In fact, I&#039;m using now.  Even given my dislike for Microsoft, I was shocked to find out that the Rip Music settings under Windows Media Player include &quot;Copy Protect Music&quot;--an option that only inconveniences the customer.  And the atrocious Windows Media Center pushes that option.  I don&#039;t think I&#039;m paranoid to believe that the only reason to introduce such a customer unfriendly feature is to make it mandatory.

What I think gets lost in conversations about Windows 7 is one key fact:  even if Windows 7 were to be the perfect OS from the Microsoft perspective and all the hardwire drivers and eye candy worked perfectly, Windows 7 would still be bad deal for the customer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not just MSN Mobile Music.  It&#8217;s also Windows 7.  I&#8217;ve been using Windows 7 recently to understand the ways of the enemy.  In fact, I&#8217;m using now.  Even given my dislike for Microsoft, I was shocked to find out that the Rip Music settings under Windows Media Player include &#8220;Copy Protect Music&#8221;&#8211;an option that only inconveniences the customer.  And the atrocious Windows Media Center pushes that option.  I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m paranoid to believe that the only reason to introduce such a customer unfriendly feature is to make it mandatory.</p>
<p>What I think gets lost in conversations about Windows 7 is one key fact:  even if Windows 7 were to be the perfect OS from the Microsoft perspective and all the hardwire drivers and eye candy worked perfectly, Windows 7 would still be bad deal for the customer.</p>
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		<title>By: Renan</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/01/24/microsoft-lobbies-for-drm/comment-page-1/#comment-59015</link>
		<dc:creator>Renan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As always, Microsoft brings a bad idea back from the deathbed.

Until all companies agree to completely GIVE UP on any and all forms of DRM, I will keep &quot;stealing&quot; music (since breaking DRM is a crime, in any case I would be an &quot;intellectual property thief&quot;, whatever that means).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As always, Microsoft brings a bad idea back from the deathbed.</p>
<p>Until all companies agree to completely GIVE UP on any and all forms of DRM, I will keep &#8220;stealing&#8221; music (since breaking DRM is a crime, in any case I would be an &#8220;intellectual property thief&#8221;, whatever that means).</p>
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