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	<title>Comments on: Microsoft&#8217;s ODF &#8216;Support&#8217; is a Scam</title>
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		<title>By: David Gerard</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/05/04/microsoft-office-odf-a-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-63005</link>
		<dc:creator>David Gerard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 20:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The author&#039;s email address (the contact link at bottom) is @openoffice.org, so it&#039;s an at least semi-official tips blog, yes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The author&#8217;s email address (the contact link at bottom) is @openoffice.org, so it&#8217;s an at least semi-official tips blog, yes.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/05/04/microsoft-office-odf-a-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-62984</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 13:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
Huh, OOOninja think anything’s better than nothing?
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isn&#039;t OOOninja tied to Sun somehow? I&#039;d assume he has to be civil.</description>
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Huh, OOOninja think anything’s better than nothing?
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<p>isn&#8217;t OOOninja tied to Sun somehow? I&#8217;d assume he has to be civil.</p>
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		<title>By: David Gerard</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/05/04/microsoft-office-odf-a-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-62981</link>
		<dc:creator>David Gerard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 13:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huh, OOOninja think anything&#039;s better than nothing? Despite Microsoft&#039;s best efforts to make it worse than nothing. We&#039;ll see. Although they cleverly kept to the letter of the spec while maintaining a perfect lack of interoperability, I can&#039;t see the promises in that press release from 2008 not coming back to bite them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh, OOOninja think anything&#8217;s better than nothing? Despite Microsoft&#8217;s best efforts to make it worse than nothing. We&#8217;ll see. Although they cleverly kept to the letter of the spec while maintaining a perfect lack of interoperability, I can&#8217;t see the promises in that press release from 2008 not coming back to bite them.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/05/04/microsoft-office-odf-a-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-62974</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 10:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oooninja.com/2009/05/microsoft-office-opendocument-odf.html&quot; title=&quot;Microsoft support for OpenDocument (ODF)&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;another new take&lt;/a&gt;:

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;http://www.oooninja.com/2009/05/microsoft-office-opendocument-odf.html&quot;&gt;
Microsoft has opened the ODF door and will be pressured on better interoperability, so even my inner cynic has a hard time imagining interoperability will not improve. With Office 2007 SP2 and Wordpad in Windows 7 supporting ODF, the future looks bright for OpenDocument Format. Has Microsoft turned a new leaf? Microsoft&#039;s recent investments in ODF, PDF, and web standards (in Internet Explorer 8) are probably more a function of government regulation or business demand than corporate goodwill.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is <a href="http://www.oooninja.com/2009/05/microsoft-office-opendocument-odf.html" title="Microsoft support for OpenDocument (ODF)" rel="nofollow">another new take</a>:</p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.oooninja.com/2009/05/microsoft-office-opendocument-odf.html"><p>
Microsoft has opened the ODF door and will be pressured on better interoperability, so even my inner cynic has a hard time imagining interoperability will not improve. With Office 2007 SP2 and Wordpad in Windows 7 supporting ODF, the future looks bright for OpenDocument Format. Has Microsoft turned a new leaf? Microsoft&#8217;s recent investments in ODF, PDF, and web standards (in Internet Explorer <img src='http://techrights.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> are probably more a function of government regulation or business demand than corporate goodwill.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/05/04/microsoft-office-odf-a-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-62964</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 07:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s RTF all over again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s RTF all over again.</p>
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		<title>By: twitter</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/05/04/microsoft-office-odf-a-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-62959</link>
		<dc:creator>twitter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 04:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the end, it&#039;s not ODF that&#039;s broken it&#039;s Word and ignoring ODF is a critical mistake.  People already hate Office 2007 and &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/10/18/0023257&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;love Google Docs&lt;/a&gt;.  People with Open Office can work with the DOC version people who use M$ Office also work with.  Guess which word processor works with &lt;a href=&quot;http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/11/08/1842212&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;netbooks, the only kind of computer selling these days&lt;/a&gt;?  The usual networking tricks are not working in M$&#039;s favor this time.  Instead of shelling out hundreds of dollars for a word processor, people are going to simply send docx to the trash.  There are simply too many better and easier way to publish and collaborate than a clunky old desktop with expensive and buggy software.  M$ is stuck in the 90s but the world has moved on.  The more M$ breaks word, the faster people will leave it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the end, it&#8217;s not ODF that&#8217;s broken it&#8217;s Word and ignoring ODF is a critical mistake.  People already hate Office 2007 and <a href="http://news.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/10/18/0023257" rel="nofollow">love Google Docs</a>.  People with Open Office can work with the DOC version people who use M$ Office also work with.  Guess which word processor works with <a href="http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/11/08/1842212" rel="nofollow">netbooks, the only kind of computer selling these days</a>?  The usual networking tricks are not working in M$&#8217;s favor this time.  Instead of shelling out hundreds of dollars for a word processor, people are going to simply send docx to the trash.  There are simply too many better and easier way to publish and collaborate than a clunky old desktop with expensive and buggy software.  M$ is stuck in the 90s but the world has moved on.  The more M$ breaks word, the faster people will leave it.</p>
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		<title>By: notzed</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/05/04/microsoft-office-odf-a-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-62957</link>
		<dc:creator>notzed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 02:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really, as if m$ are going to spend any time and effort undercutting the one thing that makes them money - owning the file formats.

Already a comment on Weir&#039;s post suggests the &#039;open source&#039; crowd could whip-up an importer that works around m$&#039;s shitty exporter issues.  If they do that, then all that they&#039;ve worked for will be for nothing - just the crap with the web all over again, and another useless format which nobody can use reliably.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really, as if m$ are going to spend any time and effort undercutting the one thing that makes them money &#8211; owning the file formats.</p>
<p>Already a comment on Weir&#8217;s post suggests the &#8216;open source&#8217; crowd could whip-up an importer that works around m$&#8217;s shitty exporter issues.  If they do that, then all that they&#8217;ve worked for will be for nothing &#8211; just the crap with the web all over again, and another useless format which nobody can use reliably.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/05/04/microsoft-office-odf-a-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-62954</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 01:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;font size=&quot;4&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;&quot;If you can’t make it good, at least make it look good.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/font&gt;
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                                --&lt;font size=&quot;3&quot;&gt;Bill Gates, Microsoft&lt;/font&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><font size="4"><em>&#8220;If you can’t make it good, at least make it look good.&#8221;</em></font></p>
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                                &#8211;<font size="3">Bill Gates, Microsoft</font></p>
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		<title>By: David Gerard</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/05/04/microsoft-office-odf-a-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-62949</link>
		<dc:creator>David Gerard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 00:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Better than that: read this &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.microsoft.com/Presspass/press/2008/may08/05-21ExpandedFormatsPR.mspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Microsoft press release&lt;/a&gt;. They promise *practical* interoperability. Before giving that fabulous line of red in Rob&#039;s second table.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Better than that: read this <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/Presspass/press/2008/may08/05-21ExpandedFormatsPR.mspx" rel="nofollow">Microsoft press release</a>. They promise *practical* interoperability. Before giving that fabulous line of red in Rob&#8217;s second table.</p>
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