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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/06/06/astroturfers-are-masquerading/comment-page-2/#comment-65684</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 10:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks. I enjoy your cartoons.</description>
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		<title>By: Penguin Pete</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/06/06/astroturfers-are-masquerading/comment-page-2/#comment-65683</link>
		<dc:creator>Penguin Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 10:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can I just say, thank you for keeping up the good fight? I&#039;ve ranted so much about this topic, I got tired of listening to myself. I&#039;m taking my own site in a new direction of exhibiting what you can do with FOSS instead of campaigning/ lobbying/ preaching about it. But I&#039;ll have you to point to for exposing the dark sides of tech culture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can I just say, thank you for keeping up the good fight? I&#8217;ve ranted so much about this topic, I got tired of listening to myself. I&#8217;m taking my own site in a new direction of exhibiting what you can do with FOSS instead of campaigning/ lobbying/ preaching about it. But I&#8217;ll have you to point to for exposing the dark sides of tech culture.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/06/06/astroturfers-are-masquerading/comment-page-1/#comment-65657</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 05:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s best to ignore them. They also modbomb our site, trying to ruin it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s best to ignore them. They also modbomb our site, trying to ruin it.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/06/06/astroturfers-are-masquerading/comment-page-1/#comment-65655</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 05:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re feeding k00ks.</description>
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		<title>By: Ed Landaveri</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/06/06/astroturfers-are-masquerading/comment-page-2/#comment-65651</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Landaveri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 04:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Roy,

  Man these trolls must thank you because you&#039;re giving them work! Thanks to you these &quot;people&quot; get paid. Thus they attack you as well as any respectable site that supports the truth.

  Marketing and proprietary companies will NEVER be able to create as superior operating system &amp;&amp; &#124;&#124; apps that FLOSS! Your site is just remembering the whole world what Microsoft&#039;s being doing for decades.

  &quot;I have never had a positive opinion about it based on using it first hand, nor do I use it for my daily tasks&quot; --sure if he&#039;s been using  Linux since 1998 as Yggdrasil claims -he&#039;s just a liar that has never been able to comprehend Linux great advantage &quot;FREEDOM&quot; and &quot;CHOICE&quot;. I don&#039;t believe his claims. He&#039;s just another troll and he knows it.

  The people I have helped to migrate to FLOSS some of them reluctantly, have ended up appreciate Linux and FLOSS. The user is in control. No more slowing down, forced upgrades &amp;&amp; immune to viruses &amp;&amp; spyware. Can Windows users boast about this? NO! NEVER! The only think they regret is not having it do it before. They also are talking to relatives &amp;&amp; friends regarding FREEDOM and this is what scares Microsoft over ten years already.


  @ &quot;Sir&quot; &quot;Sane&quot; though I doubt both terms. Users of this blog have their opinions formed over the years by seeing over and over the same anti-competitive &amp;&amp; monopolistic Microsoft behavior where profits are first &amp;&amp; customer last. It&#039;s not sane to defend a company like that. No matter  how hard the company that pays this trolls tries to rewrite history.This site is one of the few that exposes the truth, and it seems truth hurts to some. So keep on writing the next attack so your master can  send you the next check!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Roy,</p>
<p>  Man these trolls must thank you because you&#8217;re giving them work! Thanks to you these &#8220;people&#8221; get paid. Thus they attack you as well as any respectable site that supports the truth.</p>
<p>  Marketing and proprietary companies will NEVER be able to create as superior operating system &amp;&amp; || apps that FLOSS! Your site is just remembering the whole world what Microsoft&#8217;s being doing for decades.</p>
<p>  &#8220;I have never had a positive opinion about it based on using it first hand, nor do I use it for my daily tasks&#8221; &#8211;sure if he&#8217;s been using  Linux since 1998 as Yggdrasil claims -he&#8217;s just a liar that has never been able to comprehend Linux great advantage &#8220;FREEDOM&#8221; and &#8220;CHOICE&#8221;. I don&#8217;t believe his claims. He&#8217;s just another troll and he knows it.</p>
<p>  The people I have helped to migrate to FLOSS some of them reluctantly, have ended up appreciate Linux and FLOSS. The user is in control. No more slowing down, forced upgrades &amp;&amp; immune to viruses &amp;&amp; spyware. Can Windows users boast about this? NO! NEVER! The only think they regret is not having it do it before. They also are talking to relatives &amp;&amp; friends regarding FREEDOM and this is what scares Microsoft over ten years already.</p>
<p>  @ &#8220;Sir&#8221; &#8220;Sane&#8221; though I doubt both terms. Users of this blog have their opinions formed over the years by seeing over and over the same anti-competitive &amp;&amp; monopolistic Microsoft behavior where profits are first &amp;&amp; customer last. It&#8217;s not sane to defend a company like that. No matter  how hard the company that pays this trolls tries to rewrite history.This site is one of the few that exposes the truth, and it seems truth hurts to some. So keep on writing the next attack so your master can  send you the next check!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Gaskin</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/06/06/astroturfers-are-masquerading/comment-page-1/#comment-65645</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Gaskin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 03:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, but when anonymous trolls from linsux.org suggested I deserve to be killed, they&#039;re doing me no favors. There&#039;s way too much hostility for software politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, but when anonymous trolls from linsux.org suggested I deserve to be killed, they&#8217;re doing me no favors. There&#8217;s way too much hostility for software politics.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Gaskin</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/06/06/astroturfers-are-masquerading/comment-page-1/#comment-65644</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Gaskin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 03:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, but you&#039;re probably aware of a GNU/Linux distro called Yggdrasil, named from Norse mythology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, but you&#8217;re probably aware of a GNU/Linux distro called Yggdrasil, named from Norse mythology.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Gaskin</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/06/06/astroturfers-are-masquerading/comment-page-1/#comment-65643</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Gaskin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 03:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s see how long it takes linsux.org to scrub their site of &quot;Sir_Sane&#039;s&quot; comment. They might as well delete it. It&#039;s not a nice thread at all.

To save people the trouble of reading this drivel, and in case linsux.org scrubs it, &quot;Sir_Sane&quot; wrote:
&quot; N****rs. I can&#039;t stand them. I just can&#039;t.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s see how long it takes linsux.org to scrub their site of &#8220;Sir_Sane&#8217;s&#8221; comment. They might as well delete it. It&#8217;s not a nice thread at all.</p>
<p>To save people the trouble of reading this drivel, and in case linsux.org scrubs it, &#8220;Sir_Sane&#8221; wrote:<br />
&#8221; N****rs. I can&#8217;t stand them. I just can&#8217;t.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Gaskin</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/06/06/astroturfers-are-masquerading/comment-page-1/#comment-65642</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Gaskin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 03:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Sir_Sane&quot;, I&#039;m amazed you&#039;d use the same pseudonym to write this comment and this one too:

http://linsux.org/index.php/topic,1138.0.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Sir_Sane&#8221;, I&#8217;m amazed you&#8217;d use the same pseudonym to write this comment and this one too:</p>
<p><a href="http://linsux.org/index.php/topic,1138.0.html" rel="nofollow">http://linsux.org/index.php/topic,1138.0.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: eet</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/06/06/astroturfers-are-masquerading/comment-page-2/#comment-65578</link>
		<dc:creator>eet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 21:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, Roy&#039;s usual routine; as soon as he can&#039;t think of anything better he starts to invent, to make up things, or -as in this case - to simply attack the few sane people here as being &#039;astro-turfes&#039;. God, what strange lingo; where does this guy live - on Usenet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Roy&#8217;s usual routine; as soon as he can&#8217;t think of anything better he starts to invent, to make up things, or -as in this case &#8211; to simply attack the few sane people here as being &#8216;astro-turfes&#8217;. God, what strange lingo; where does this guy live &#8211; on Usenet?</p>
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		<title>By: Sabayon User (Sabayon == Gentoo, kthx)</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/06/06/astroturfers-are-masquerading/comment-page-1/#comment-65563</link>
		<dc:creator>Sabayon User (Sabayon == Gentoo, kthx)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 18:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must be &lt;a href=&quot;http://boycottnovell.com/2009/06/05/monodevelop-windows-monoculture/#comment-65239&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;asking the right questions&lt;/a&gt;:

&lt;blockquote&gt;They try personal attacks. It means you’re on the right topic. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

If he has to go to these lengths.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must be <a href="http://boycottnovell.com/2009/06/05/monodevelop-windows-monoculture/#comment-65239" rel="nofollow">asking the right questions</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>They try personal attacks. It means you’re on the right topic. </p></blockquote>
<p>If he has to go to these lengths.</p>
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		<title>By: aeshna23</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/06/06/astroturfers-are-masquerading/comment-page-1/#comment-65357</link>
		<dc:creator>aeshna23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 12:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Often trolls just post irrelevant nonsense.  But as fans of Buffy the Vampire know, the evil guys are often the ones who confront Buffy with her biggest mistakes in her romantic life.  When the trolls find our real points and hurt us the most, they do us the biggest favor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Often trolls just post irrelevant nonsense.  But as fans of Buffy the Vampire know, the evil guys are often the ones who confront Buffy with her biggest mistakes in her romantic life.  When the trolls find our real points and hurt us the most, they do us the biggest favor.</p>
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		<title>By: aeshna23</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/06/06/astroturfers-are-masquerading/comment-page-1/#comment-65356</link>
		<dc:creator>aeshna23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 12:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mad Hatter&#039;s comments about Microsoft&#039;s pricing schemes are inaccurate.  If you accept Microsoft&#039;s view of software, as a consumption good produced by an elite cabal for consumers powerless to even make the smallest change in code for the consumer&#039;s own benefit, then the Microsoft pricing scheme is in fact that right pricing scheme.  The different versions just mean that the people who demanded more from Microsoft are the ones who pay for Microsoft&#039;s additional work.  

And Mad Hatter&#039;s condemnation of the price of the Window OS going up after the switch to CD installation is just flat out silly.  They are two unrelated events and one happened after the other.  Mad Hat desperately needs to look up the  most useful Latin phase in the English dictionary:  post hoc ergo propter hoc (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_hoc_ergo_propter_hoc).

Rather than making irrelevant comments about Microsoft pricing scheme, we should focus on the superiority of FOSS to the proprietary model of software development.  

On the other hand, I did enjoy Mad Hatter&#039;s rhetorical taunt that Microsoft has the capacity to make a good OS if it wished.  I doubt that&#039;s true given Microsoft&#039;s proprietary model of software development and Microsoft&#039;s need to be consistent with past bad decision.  I suspect that Mad Hatter shares this doubt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mad Hatter&#8217;s comments about Microsoft&#8217;s pricing schemes are inaccurate.  If you accept Microsoft&#8217;s view of software, as a consumption good produced by an elite cabal for consumers powerless to even make the smallest change in code for the consumer&#8217;s own benefit, then the Microsoft pricing scheme is in fact that right pricing scheme.  The different versions just mean that the people who demanded more from Microsoft are the ones who pay for Microsoft&#8217;s additional work.  </p>
<p>And Mad Hatter&#8217;s condemnation of the price of the Window OS going up after the switch to CD installation is just flat out silly.  They are two unrelated events and one happened after the other.  Mad Hat desperately needs to look up the  most useful Latin phase in the English dictionary:  post hoc ergo propter hoc (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_hoc_ergo_propter_hoc" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_hoc_ergo_propter_hoc</a>).</p>
<p>Rather than making irrelevant comments about Microsoft pricing scheme, we should focus on the superiority of FOSS to the proprietary model of software development.  </p>
<p>On the other hand, I did enjoy Mad Hatter&#8217;s rhetorical taunt that Microsoft has the capacity to make a good OS if it wished.  I doubt that&#8217;s true given Microsoft&#8217;s proprietary model of software development and Microsoft&#8217;s need to be consistent with past bad decision.  I suspect that Mad Hatter shares this doubt.</p>
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		<title>By: G. Michaels</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/06/06/astroturfers-are-masquerading/comment-page-1/#comment-65341</link>
		<dc:creator>G. Michaels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 09:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your post seems to have been cut off at the end. I read through your friend&#039;s weird rant, but I was looking for the closing argument, where you provide evidence that these people you despise so much because they disagree with you and use Linux at home actually work for Microsoft. That they&#039;re employed by Microsoft, and paid to post on your blog. Please check your WordPress settings or something, I was looking forward to that very much. It would definitely help turn this from a whiny tantrum into a believable case for your never-ending claims that Microsoft targets you personally and all that.

We&#039;ll talk about the other stuff later... I&#039;m still laughing at the whole Gentoo User -&gt; Sabayon User -&gt; OMG HE IS NYMSHIFTING KILL KILL KILL deal. I actually almost split my sides (and half-choked on a brownie I was eating, I swear) when I saw you were pointing at that thing you wrote to defend your friend &quot;twitter&quot;. You know, &quot;twitter&quot; from Slashdot and his 24 close friends. I&#039;m sure you didn&#039;t intend that to be humorous, but oh God... &quot;nymshifters don&#039;t deserve attention&quot; or whatever it was you said has got to be the funniest thing ever!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your post seems to have been cut off at the end. I read through your friend&#8217;s weird rant, but I was looking for the closing argument, where you provide evidence that these people you despise so much because they disagree with you and use Linux at home actually work for Microsoft. That they&#8217;re employed by Microsoft, and paid to post on your blog. Please check your WordPress settings or something, I was looking forward to that very much. It would definitely help turn this from a whiny tantrum into a believable case for your never-ending claims that Microsoft targets you personally and all that.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll talk about the other stuff later&#8230; I&#8217;m still laughing at the whole Gentoo User -&gt; Sabayon User -&gt; OMG HE IS NYMSHIFTING KILL KILL KILL deal. I actually almost split my sides (and half-choked on a brownie I was eating, I swear) when I saw you were pointing at that thing you wrote to defend your friend &#8220;twitter&#8221;. You know, &#8220;twitter&#8221; from Slashdot and his 24 close friends. I&#8217;m sure you didn&#8217;t intend that to be humorous, but oh God&#8230; &#8220;nymshifters don&#8217;t deserve attention&#8221; or whatever it was you said has got to be the funniest thing ever!</p>
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		<title>By: DOUGman</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/06/06/astroturfers-are-masquerading/comment-page-1/#comment-65289</link>
		<dc:creator>DOUGman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 00:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude, MS ruined their own brand with me, LONG before I started coming here, so BUG off troll.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude, MS ruined their own brand with me, LONG before I started coming here, so BUG off troll.</p>
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		<title>By: Sir Sane</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/06/06/astroturfers-are-masquerading/comment-page-1/#comment-65288</link>
		<dc:creator>Sir Sane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 00:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You mean of course, your opinion as shaped and molded by Boycott Novell. You don&#039;t really have an opinion of your own, Schestowitz shaped it with his typical dribbling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mean of course, your opinion as shaped and molded by Boycott Novell. You don&#8217;t really have an opinion of your own, Schestowitz shaped it with his typical dribbling.</p>
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		<title>By: Yggdrasil</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/06/06/astroturfers-are-masquerading/comment-page-1/#comment-65281</link>
		<dc:creator>Yggdrasil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 23:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m touched you&#039;ve been thinking of me, but you assume far too much.  I chose &quot;Yggdrasil&quot; before learning it was a Linux distribution.  I first heard this name while playing one of my all time favorite PC games, &quot;Max Payne&quot; by Remedy Entertainment (2001).  In the game, &quot;Yggdrasil&quot; is the name given to the computer network used by the government during the development of Project Valhalla.  It is a pure coincidence that this name &quot;was&quot; a Linux distro, as I simply like the style of the name, but I have a feeling you would rather embrace conspiracy theories.

I must also clarify that I have never claimed to be a Linux supporter.  I define that as someone who prefers to use Linux a majority of the time.  I have used Linux in the past and do keep a copy installed on a spare machine for my own purposes.  However, I&#039;m disappointed with most aspects of Linux, as I have been since my first encounter with it in 1998.  I have never had a positive opinion about it based on using it first hand, nor do I use it for my daily tasks, so the formula you cite would not apply to me.  Yet, this particular formula does not fit most Linux zealots to a tee, yourself excluded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m touched you&#8217;ve been thinking of me, but you assume far too much.  I chose &#8220;Yggdrasil&#8221; before learning it was a Linux distribution.  I first heard this name while playing one of my all time favorite PC games, &#8220;Max Payne&#8221; by Remedy Entertainment (2001).  In the game, &#8220;Yggdrasil&#8221; is the name given to the computer network used by the government during the development of Project Valhalla.  It is a pure coincidence that this name &#8220;was&#8221; a Linux distro, as I simply like the style of the name, but I have a feeling you would rather embrace conspiracy theories.</p>
<p>I must also clarify that I have never claimed to be a Linux supporter.  I define that as someone who prefers to use Linux a majority of the time.  I have used Linux in the past and do keep a copy installed on a spare machine for my own purposes.  However, I&#8217;m disappointed with most aspects of Linux, as I have been since my first encounter with it in 1998.  I have never had a positive opinion about it based on using it first hand, nor do I use it for my daily tasks, so the formula you cite would not apply to me.  Yet, this particular formula does not fit most Linux zealots to a tee, yourself excluded.</p>
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		<title>By: DOUGman</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/06/06/astroturfers-are-masquerading/comment-page-1/#comment-65262</link>
		<dc:creator>DOUGman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 20:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good write-up, pretty much sums up my opinion of MS.

D.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good write-up, pretty much sums up my opinion of MS.</p>
<p>D.</p>
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