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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/06/19/mono-poll-and-news/comment-page-2/#comment-67640</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 20:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If only I knew how many &quot;Photoshop guards&quot; are PR agents and how many are just Photoshop users defending their territory, so to speak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If only I knew how many &#8220;Photoshop guards&#8221; are PR agents and how many are just Photoshop users defending their territory, so to speak.</p>
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		<title>By: Penguin Pete</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/06/19/mono-poll-and-news/comment-page-2/#comment-67638</link>
		<dc:creator>Penguin Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 20:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s just one difference I see with regards to the Gimp: There&#039;s about maybe 20 people breathing on the planet who do not have their craniums inserted up their nether passage when it comes to the Gimp. That&#039;s the ten-member development team, me, and an estimate of a few others.

The way Microsoft tries to shoot down Linux pales in comparison to how legions of Adobe zealots try to shoot down the Gimp. Let F-Spot take the heat for a while!

Good, F-Spot can be the new target for all the Adobe fanaticism. And don&#039;t forget! It must be an exact, pixel-perfect clone of Photoshop down to the logo, or else it is the greatest evil in history including the Holocaust, just like the Phtotrolls claim about Gimp now.

Finally! People will pick on some other program and leave those of us who appreciate the Gimp as being the greatest image editing application ever made, completely perfect and needing nothing changed, to use it in peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s just one difference I see with regards to the Gimp: There&#8217;s about maybe 20 people breathing on the planet who do not have their craniums inserted up their nether passage when it comes to the Gimp. That&#8217;s the ten-member development team, me, and an estimate of a few others.</p>
<p>The way Microsoft tries to shoot down Linux pales in comparison to how legions of Adobe zealots try to shoot down the Gimp. Let F-Spot take the heat for a while!</p>
<p>Good, F-Spot can be the new target for all the Adobe fanaticism. And don&#8217;t forget! It must be an exact, pixel-perfect clone of Photoshop down to the logo, or else it is the greatest evil in history including the Holocaust, just like the Phtotrolls claim about Gimp now.</p>
<p>Finally! People will pick on some other program and leave those of us who appreciate the Gimp as being the greatest image editing application ever made, completely perfect and needing nothing changed, to use it in peace.</p>
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		<title>By: David "Lefty" Schlesinger</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/06/19/mono-poll-and-news/comment-page-2/#comment-67377</link>
		<dc:creator>David "Lefty" Schlesinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 05:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Same thing happens on the latest FF 3.5...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Same thing happens on the latest FF 3.5&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/06/19/mono-poll-and-news/comment-page-2/#comment-67375</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 01:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We may also have a slow scrolling issue in FF 3.5 (based on beta 2).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We may also have a slow scrolling issue in FF 3.5 (based on beta 2).</p>
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		<title>By: Shane Coyle</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/06/19/mono-poll-and-news/comment-page-2/#comment-67374</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane Coyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 01:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, I see that.  If you right-click, and open in new tab, it seems to go to comment, not sure if this is the fault of firefox or wordpress, gonna try with opera and konqueror, let&#039;s see...

Konq 4.2.4 works as expected, right to the comment, as does Opera 9.64 (my same Slax-6.1.1 based KDE4 computer).

Anyone else experiencing this on Firefox?  Could you list version as well (specifically, anyone using 3.5???)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, I see that.  If you right-click, and open in new tab, it seems to go to comment, not sure if this is the fault of firefox or wordpress, gonna try with opera and konqueror, let&#8217;s see&#8230;</p>
<p>Konq 4.2.4 works as expected, right to the comment, as does Opera 9.64 (my same Slax-6.1.1 based KDE4 computer).</p>
<p>Anyone else experiencing this on Firefox?  Could you list version as well (specifically, anyone using 3.5???)</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/06/19/mono-poll-and-news/comment-page-2/#comment-67373</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 01:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed. There is something dodgy about the new IRC applet, which steals focus. &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.freenode.net/2009/06/new-freenode-webchat-and-why-to-use-it/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Freenode is blocking access from mibbit&lt;/a&gt;.

Is there a hack for avoiding this (it&#039;s an iframe)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed. There is something dodgy about the new IRC applet, which steals focus. <a href="http://blog.freenode.net/2009/06/new-freenode-webchat-and-why-to-use-it/" rel="nofollow">Freenode is blocking access from mibbit</a>.</p>
<p>Is there a hack for avoiding this (it&#8217;s an iframe)?</p>
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		<title>By: Shane Coyle</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/06/19/mono-poll-and-news/comment-page-2/#comment-67372</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane Coyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 01:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, is it me, or when you click on a comment in recent comments on the stories page, do you end up at the &#039;top&#039; of the comments, instead of the actual comment itself (annoying because nested comments means that bottom comment does not necessarily mean latest comment)?

((FF 3.0.11, Slax 6.1.1 heavily hacked))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, is it me, or when you click on a comment in recent comments on the stories page, do you end up at the &#8216;top&#8217; of the comments, instead of the actual comment itself (annoying because nested comments means that bottom comment does not necessarily mean latest comment)?</p>
<p>((FF 3.0.11, Slax 6.1.1 heavily hacked))</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/06/19/mono-poll-and-news/comment-page-2/#comment-67370</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 01:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wine was created specifically to run &#039;killer apps&#039; like paint.exe. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wine was created specifically to run &#8216;killer apps&#8217; like paint.exe. <img src='http://techrights.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Shane Coyle</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/06/19/mono-poll-and-news/comment-page-2/#comment-67369</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane Coyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 00:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As is KolourPaint, except for alot more functionality than I recall in mspaint, like more formats than just bmp, image effects like emboss and such, but then again I haven&#039;t touched winders since early 2000&#039;s, so maybe paint.exe got more advanced?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As is KolourPaint, except for alot more functionality than I recall in mspaint, like more formats than just bmp, image effects like emboss and such, but then again I haven&#8217;t touched winders since early 2000&#8242;s, so maybe paint.exe got more advanced?</p>
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		<title>By: lachlan</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/06/19/mono-poll-and-news/comment-page-2/#comment-67368</link>
		<dc:creator>lachlan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 00:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gpaint is pretty much the same as mspaint.</description>
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		<title>By: Honest Injin</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/06/19/mono-poll-and-news/comment-page-2/#comment-67366</link>
		<dc:creator>Honest Injin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 00:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, what has Banshee that isn&#039;t in Amarok?

(I know Gnome/KDE, but ya did say &quot;beats all other music players on Linux.&quot;

(asking honestly, maybe you can convert me... ;^ )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, what has Banshee that isn&#8217;t in Amarok?</p>
<p>(I know Gnome/KDE, but ya did say &quot;beats all other music players on Linux.&quot;</p>
<p>(asking honestly, maybe you can convert me&#8230; ;^ )</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/06/19/mono-poll-and-news/comment-page-2/#comment-67365</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 00:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have ignored the two most important issues -- that Mono helps Microsoft and also poses a patent threat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have ignored the two most important issues &#8212; that Mono helps Microsoft and also poses a patent threat.</p>
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		<title>By: John Hunt</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/06/19/mono-poll-and-news/comment-page-2/#comment-67359</link>
		<dc:creator>John Hunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 23:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this FUD blog or something? Nobody is going to replace the gimp with f-spot, they&#039;re entirely different programs (lightroom/photoshop.)

Mono has improved the linux desktop by allowing more programmers to write programs for linux. Nevermind if f-spot is any good etc..

By removing mono, choice is being removed. If you don&#039;t like mono, just un-install it or use a different distribution. Choice is what makes linux great. Don&#039;t remove it.

Oh, and also, Banshee fucking rules and beats all other music players on Linux.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this FUD blog or something? Nobody is going to replace the gimp with f-spot, they&#8217;re entirely different programs (lightroom/photoshop.)</p>
<p>Mono has improved the linux desktop by allowing more programmers to write programs for linux. Nevermind if f-spot is any good etc..</p>
<p>By removing mono, choice is being removed. If you don&#8217;t like mono, just un-install it or use a different distribution. Choice is what makes linux great. Don&#8217;t remove it.</p>
<p>Oh, and also, Banshee fucking rules and beats all other music players on Linux.</p>
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		<title>By: the11thplague</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/06/19/mono-poll-and-news/comment-page-1/#comment-67181</link>
		<dc:creator>the11thplague</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 05:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, I&#039;ll try it.
btw I can&#039;t install gwenview&#039;s deb package on ubuntu, gdebi says some dependencies are not satisfied &quot;Error: ... kdelibs5 (&gt;= 4:4.2.4)&quot;. The latest version I can get through Synapric is the 4.2.2. I&#039;ll ask on forums later...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, I&#8217;ll try it.<br />
btw I can&#8217;t install gwenview&#8217;s deb package on ubuntu, gdebi says some dependencies are not satisfied &#8220;Error: &#8230; kdelibs5 (&gt;= 4:4.2.4)&#8221;. The latest version I can get through Synapric is the 4.2.2. I&#8217;ll ask on forums later&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/06/19/mono-poll-and-news/comment-page-1/#comment-67147</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 21:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Photoshop is going (partly) Web based. Google, I believe, has something similar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Photoshop is going (partly) Web based. Google, I believe, has something similar.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/06/19/mono-poll-and-news/comment-page-1/#comment-67146</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 21:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What you might want is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nathive.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Nathive&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you might want is <a href="http://www.nathive.org/" rel="nofollow">Nathive</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: the11thplague</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/06/19/mono-poll-and-news/comment-page-1/#comment-67145</link>
		<dc:creator>the11thplague</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 21:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I didn&#039;t meant to say it was a bad program. It&#039;s just that most people use web interfaces these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I didn&#8217;t meant to say it was a bad program. It&#8217;s just that most people use web interfaces these days.</p>
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		<title>By: the11thplague</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/06/19/mono-poll-and-news/comment-page-1/#comment-67143</link>
		<dc:creator>the11thplague</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 21:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote]I mean, come on. You’re not claiming GNU/Linux suffers for not having paint.exe, right?[/quote]
Yes, I do. It sounded stupid to me too, but actually people keep asking me, and if you search on the net, A LOT of images with writings are modified using paint. Why ? Because it&#039;s simple. Too simple ? Maybe. but at least you don&#039;t have to search through right click SUB-menus to to that. It&#039;s not training, it&#039;s just having a big button in front of me to do what I need. Anything more complex is not easy enough.
Also, most people don&#039;t even know what vectorial graphic is. In order to suggest such a program to my sister (for example) I should explain that too... They just don&#039;t need vectorial programs.
BTW I have The GIMP installed on Win too, and I use it to cut out photos, because it allows for more precision than Paint, but com&#039;on ! I don&#039;t think GIMP was meant to do such a stupid task, it wouldn&#039;t take so much time to load if it was meant for things like this. Not being able to find a simple photo editor for linux is really, really puzzling me. How can it be ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote]I mean, come on. You’re not claiming GNU/Linux suffers for not having paint.exe, right?[/quote]<br />
Yes, I do. It sounded stupid to me too, but actually people keep asking me, and if you search on the net, A LOT of images with writings are modified using paint. Why ? Because it&#8217;s simple. Too simple ? Maybe. but at least you don&#8217;t have to search through right click SUB-menus to to that. It&#8217;s not training, it&#8217;s just having a big button in front of me to do what I need. Anything more complex is not easy enough.<br />
Also, most people don&#8217;t even know what vectorial graphic is. In order to suggest such a program to my sister (for example) I should explain that too&#8230; They just don&#8217;t need vectorial programs.<br />
BTW I have The GIMP installed on Win too, and I use it to cut out photos, because it allows for more precision than Paint, but com&#8217;on ! I don&#8217;t think GIMP was meant to do such a stupid task, it wouldn&#8217;t take so much time to load if it was meant for things like this. Not being able to find a simple photo editor for linux is really, really puzzling me. How can it be ?</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/06/19/mono-poll-and-news/comment-page-1/#comment-67137</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 18:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Goldfarb is one of their main men in this area. The quote is very revealing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goldfarb is one of their main men in this area. The quote is very revealing.</p>
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		<title>By: eet</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/06/19/mono-poll-and-news/comment-page-1/#comment-67136</link>
		<dc:creator>eet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 18:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah - sorry, I meant Roy must be naive to attribute any importance to that source. I should have been more clear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah &#8211; sorry, I meant Roy must be naive to attribute any importance to that source. I should have been more clear.</p>
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