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		<title>By: notzed</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/06/29/questionable-press-coverage/comment-page-1/#comment-68876</link>
		<dc:creator>notzed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 04:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a strange article (the linuxinsider one).  If I wanted to read the `wisdom&#039; of slashdot I would just go there and read it myself ... but I don&#039;t because the signal to noise ratio is too low, and then there&#039;s the shills and trolls and bullies.

I wonder if the author actually got paid for that aggregation of random anonymous opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a strange article (the linuxinsider one).  If I wanted to read the `wisdom&#8217; of slashdot I would just go there and read it myself &#8230; but I don&#8217;t because the signal to noise ratio is too low, and then there&#8217;s the shills and trolls and bullies.</p>
<p>I wonder if the author actually got paid for that aggregation of random anonymous opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: lalala</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/06/29/questionable-press-coverage/comment-page-1/#comment-68875</link>
		<dc:creator>lalala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 03:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the up side, you actually responded (not very well though).  On the down side, you resorted to the old, old, oh so old tactics of calling me a troll, accusing me of slander, and being a hypocrite.  All because I dared ask you a question.

I didn&#039;t read everything you wrote.  After the nth time seeing &quot;M$&quot;, I stopped, because only jealous children type it like that.  I would say that if you stopped using the dollar sign, people might start to take you seriously, but the damage is already done.

I never bragged about anything.  I don&#039;t even have a slashdot account.

I&#039;ll have to make up something else to &quot;slander&quot; you with?  So, when someone doesn&#039;t agree with you and dares to call you out, it&#039;s &quot;slander&quot;?

The &quot;harassment&quot; won&#039;t stop.  You brought it all on yourself by making all those accounts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the up side, you actually responded (not very well though).  On the down side, you resorted to the old, old, oh so old tactics of calling me a troll, accusing me of slander, and being a hypocrite.  All because I dared ask you a question.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t read everything you wrote.  After the nth time seeing &#8220;M$&#8221;, I stopped, because only jealous children type it like that.  I would say that if you stopped using the dollar sign, people might start to take you seriously, but the damage is already done.</p>
<p>I never bragged about anything.  I don&#8217;t even have a slashdot account.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll have to make up something else to &#8220;slander&#8221; you with?  So, when someone doesn&#8217;t agree with you and dares to call you out, it&#8217;s &#8220;slander&#8221;?</p>
<p>The &#8220;harassment&#8221; won&#8217;t stop.  You brought it all on yourself by making all those accounts.</p>
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		<title>By: G. Michaels</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/06/29/questionable-press-coverage/comment-page-1/#comment-68874</link>
		<dc:creator>G. Michaels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 03:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I did this to escape the censorship &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Your primary Slashdot account was modded down because people were sick and tired of your tone, your lies and your abrasive &quot;advocacy&quot;. Pretending that anything else led to that is more of the same lies.

&lt;blockquote&gt;These efforts taught me about the ease of subverting Slashdot’s comments&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Just because you&#039;re doing it doesn&#039;t mean everyone else is too. Right about now you&#039;re going to paste some &lt;i&gt;proof&lt;/i&gt; that someone else did that, for a nefarious purposes, right? Something more tangible than &quot;I don&#039;t like what these two people are saying, therefore they are nym trolls. Let&#039;s go shopping&quot;. Something along the lines of &lt;a href=&quot;http://slashdot.org/~SockDisclosure/journal/214377&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;blockquote&gt;You will note that I have not used any of my other nyms in more than six months. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

You want a cookie?

&lt;blockquote&gt;you will have to make up something else to slander me with&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I don&#039;t think you understand what &lt;i&gt;slander&lt;/i&gt; means, Will. Slander is when someone &lt;i&gt;lies&lt;/i&gt; about you deliberately to discredit or hurt you. I fail to see how documenting your dozens of Slashdot accounts and how you used them to shill your own comments and generally crap all over the place is &quot;slander&quot; in any way. Otherwise, you&#039;d be able to explain things like &lt;a href=&quot;http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=986049&amp;cid=25269343&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;these&lt;/a&gt;. But you can&#039;t, can you?

Just because your gracious host Roy here goes out of his way to justify your trolling and nymshifting (shades of Mark Fink here) in other online communities (while of course whining that his blog is being attacked that way) doesn&#039;t mean you get out of jail free. The reality of what you did there for years isn&#039;t going away any time soon, especially when you actually brag about it and then insult people who think that&#039;s lame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I did this to escape the censorship </p></blockquote>
<p>Your primary Slashdot account was modded down because people were sick and tired of your tone, your lies and your abrasive &#8220;advocacy&#8221;. Pretending that anything else led to that is more of the same lies.</p>
<blockquote><p>These efforts taught me about the ease of subverting Slashdot’s comments</p></blockquote>
<p>Just because you&#8217;re doing it doesn&#8217;t mean everyone else is too. Right about now you&#8217;re going to paste some <i>proof</i> that someone else did that, for a nefarious purposes, right? Something more tangible than &#8220;I don&#8217;t like what these two people are saying, therefore they are nym trolls. Let&#8217;s go shopping&#8221;. Something along the lines of <a href="http://slashdot.org/~SockDisclosure/journal/214377" rel="nofollow">this</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>You will note that I have not used any of my other nyms in more than six months. </p></blockquote>
<p>You want a cookie?</p>
<blockquote><p>you will have to make up something else to slander me with</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t think you understand what <i>slander</i> means, Will. Slander is when someone <i>lies</i> about you deliberately to discredit or hurt you. I fail to see how documenting your dozens of Slashdot accounts and how you used them to shill your own comments and generally crap all over the place is &#8220;slander&#8221; in any way. Otherwise, you&#8217;d be able to explain things like <a href="http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=986049&amp;cid=25269343" rel="nofollow">these</a>. But you can&#8217;t, can you?</p>
<p>Just because your gracious host Roy here goes out of his way to justify your trolling and nymshifting (shades of Mark Fink here) in other online communities (while of course whining that his blog is being attacked that way) doesn&#8217;t mean you get out of jail free. The reality of what you did there for years isn&#8217;t going away any time soon, especially when you actually brag about it and then insult people who think that&#8217;s lame.</p>
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		<title>By: twitter</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/06/29/questionable-press-coverage/comment-page-1/#comment-68873</link>
		<dc:creator>twitter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You &lt;a href=&quot;http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1283973&amp;cid=28501115&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;obsessive harassers who read everything I write&lt;/a&gt; already know the answer to that question.  I did this to escape the censorship &lt;a href=&quot;http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=313739&amp;cid=20847697&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;that you trolls so often bragged about&lt;/a&gt;.  These efforts taught me about the ease of subverting Slashdot&#039;s comments system and just how connected and well organized M$ PR people are.  You will note that I have not used any of my other nyms in more than six months.  They failed their primary purpose and you will have to make up something else to slander me with.  This one only proves your hypocrisy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You <a href="http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1283973&amp;cid=28501115" rel="nofollow">obsessive harassers who read everything I write</a> already know the answer to that question.  I did this to escape the censorship <a href="http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=313739&amp;cid=20847697" rel="nofollow">that you trolls so often bragged about</a>.  These efforts taught me about the ease of subverting Slashdot&#8217;s comments system and just how connected and well organized M$ PR people are.  You will note that I have not used any of my other nyms in more than six months.  They failed their primary purpose and you will have to make up something else to slander me with.  This one only proves your hypocrisy.</p>
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		<title>By: lalala</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/06/29/questionable-press-coverage/comment-page-1/#comment-68871</link>
		<dc:creator>lalala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just like Roy.  You bitch &amp; moan about nyms on Slashdot.  What about your nyms on Slashdot?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just like Roy.  You bitch &amp; moan about nyms on Slashdot.  What about your nyms on Slashdot?</p>
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		<title>By: twitter</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/06/29/questionable-press-coverage/comment-page-1/#comment-68870</link>
		<dc:creator>twitter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pure astroturf - filling slashdot up with garbage to quote later - but they have done a poor job in this case.  Hairyfeet and drinkypoo are &lt;a href=&quot;http://slashdot.org/~twitter/journal/204737&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;obvious troll nyms on Slashdot&lt;/a&gt;.   They tirelessly promote M$, deride free software and are general annoyances.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1154657&amp;cid=27131183&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&lt;/a&gt; we see hairy feet praising M$ Office at the expense of OO and Slashdot in general.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=985275&amp;cid=25254365&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&lt;/a&gt; gets sloppy with nymshifting and then goes on and on about how people should not say &quot;M$&quot; because it annoys him.  Oh yeah, you don&#039;t want to know &lt;a href=&quot;http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1010345&amp;cid=25555885&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;about his older nym&lt;/a&gt;, really &lt;a href=&quot;http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=216934&amp;cid=17629948&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;you don&#039;t&lt;/a&gt;.  drinkypoo, if the name does not say it all, is of the same calibre.  Any news source that would quote these kinds of people is clueless at best and suspect at worst.  The case you make above points to malice more than ignorance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pure astroturf &#8211; filling slashdot up with garbage to quote later &#8211; but they have done a poor job in this case.  Hairyfeet and drinkypoo are <a href="http://slashdot.org/~twitter/journal/204737" rel="nofollow">obvious troll nyms on Slashdot</a>.   They tirelessly promote M$, deride free software and are general annoyances.  <a href="http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1154657&amp;cid=27131183" rel="nofollow">Here</a> we see hairy feet praising M$ Office at the expense of OO and Slashdot in general.  <a href="http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=985275&amp;cid=25254365" rel="nofollow">Here</a> gets sloppy with nymshifting and then goes on and on about how people should not say &#8220;M$&#8221; because it annoys him.  Oh yeah, you don&#8217;t want to know <a href="http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1010345&amp;cid=25555885" rel="nofollow">about his older nym</a>, really <a href="http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=216934&amp;cid=17629948" rel="nofollow">you don&#8217;t</a>.  drinkypoo, if the name does not say it all, is of the same calibre.  Any news source that would quote these kinds of people is clueless at best and suspect at worst.  The case you make above points to malice more than ignorance.</p>
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		<title>By: G. Michaels</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/06/29/questionable-press-coverage/comment-page-1/#comment-68868</link>
		<dc:creator>G. Michaels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 01:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;the author uses comments from people with names like “hairyfeet” and “drinkypoo”.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

As opposed to &quot;slated&quot; and &quot;twitter&quot; and &quot;trmanco&quot; and &quot;ohiaohm&quot; and &quot;daemonxp&quot;, all of whom are constantly passed off as authoritative sources by you?

&lt;blockquote&gt;To support this whole storyline, the author is again quoting “M$” from the other side, thus discrediting this whole side of the debate.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Reads to me like the &quot;advocate&quot; quoted there managed to discredit himself quite thoroughly. Not unlike a few of your friends. I can cite cites if you want :)

To put it another way, imagine that the people whose opinions you disagree with repeatedly used terms like &quot;open sores&quot; or &quot;linsux&quot;. The effect is the same.

&lt;blockquote&gt;which gently tries to put the “evil” label on Google&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Wait, I thought Intel was an evil entity. You&#039;ve said this yourself, have you not? Literally. And don&#039;t you have dozens of articles that smear companies that have or had or will have former Microsoft employees working for them? You know, guilt by association? Isn&#039;t it quite natural then to extrapolate this one and claim Google is evil because someone from Intel works for them? So what&#039;s the problem there? Seems quite appropriate to me. 

Sometimes this is too easy :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>the author uses comments from people with names like “hairyfeet” and “drinkypoo”.</p></blockquote>
<p>As opposed to &#8220;slated&#8221; and &#8220;twitter&#8221; and &#8220;trmanco&#8221; and &#8220;ohiaohm&#8221; and &#8220;daemonxp&#8221;, all of whom are constantly passed off as authoritative sources by you?</p>
<blockquote><p>To support this whole storyline, the author is again quoting “M$” from the other side, thus discrediting this whole side of the debate.</p></blockquote>
<p>Reads to me like the &#8220;advocate&#8221; quoted there managed to discredit himself quite thoroughly. Not unlike a few of your friends. I can cite cites if you want <img src='http://techrights.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>To put it another way, imagine that the people whose opinions you disagree with repeatedly used terms like &#8220;open sores&#8221; or &#8220;linsux&#8221;. The effect is the same.</p>
<blockquote><p>which gently tries to put the “evil” label on Google</p></blockquote>
<p>Wait, I thought Intel was an evil entity. You&#8217;ve said this yourself, have you not? Literally. And don&#8217;t you have dozens of articles that smear companies that have or had or will have former Microsoft employees working for them? You know, guilt by association? Isn&#8217;t it quite natural then to extrapolate this one and claim Google is evil because someone from Intel works for them? So what&#8217;s the problem there? Seems quite appropriate to me. </p>
<p>Sometimes this is too easy <img src='http://techrights.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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