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	<title>Comments on: Microsoft CEO Admits That Vista 7 is Just Vapourware, Opera Complaints About It</title>
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		<title>By: David "Lefty" Schlesinger</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/07/17/vista-7-is-vaporware-admission/comment-page-2/#comment-70693</link>
		<dc:creator>David "Lefty" Schlesinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 06:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I might get to him before the &quot;big guns&quot; do, at the rate we&#039;re going.

They can have whatever&#039;s left.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I might get to him before the &#8220;big guns&#8221; do, at the rate we&#8217;re going.</p>
<p>They can have whatever&#8217;s left.</p>
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		<title>By: David "Lefty" Schlesinger</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/07/17/vista-7-is-vaporware-admission/comment-page-2/#comment-70692</link>
		<dc:creator>David "Lefty" Schlesinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 06:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this intended to explain the deceitfulness of the title of the article, Roy...? I give you an &quot;F&quot; on this one, unless you became the CEO of Microsoft and we all missed the memo, somehow.

According to this, it &lt;I&gt;should &lt;/i&gt;read &quot;Roy Schestowitz Claims The Vista 7 is Just Vaporware&quot;.

Like I keep saying, Roy, if there was a law against impersonating a journalist, you&#039;d be behind bars for life.

Jose suggests this is a matter of priorities and available time for you. I&#039;d like to know just exactly where &quot;telling the truth&quot; sits on your list of priorities. I suspect it&#039;s somewhere down around #3422, right after &quot;eat your greens&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this intended to explain the deceitfulness of the title of the article, Roy&#8230;? I give you an &#8220;F&#8221; on this one, unless you became the CEO of Microsoft and we all missed the memo, somehow.</p>
<p>According to this, it <i>should </i>read &#8220;Roy Schestowitz Claims The Vista 7 is Just Vaporware&#8221;.</p>
<p>Like I keep saying, Roy, if there was a law against impersonating a journalist, you&#8217;d be behind bars for life.</p>
<p>Jose suggests this is a matter of priorities and available time for you. I&#8217;d like to know just exactly where &#8220;telling the truth&#8221; sits on your list of priorities. I suspect it&#8217;s somewhere down around #3422, right after &#8220;eat your greens&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/07/17/vista-7-is-vaporware-admission/comment-page-2/#comment-70690</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 06:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jose_X:

No, I actually do consider Vista 7 (e.g. for netbooks) to be vapourware and I wrote this many times before (independent of SJVN). See my reply to David Gerard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jose_X:</p>
<p>No, I actually do consider Vista 7 (e.g. for netbooks) to be vapourware and I wrote this many times before (independent of SJVN). See my reply to David Gerard.</p>
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		<title>By: David "Lefty" Schlesinger</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/07/17/vista-7-is-vaporware-admission/comment-page-2/#comment-70688</link>
		<dc:creator>David "Lefty" Schlesinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 06:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;B&gt;&lt;I&gt;I think Roy has decided on a set of priorities that leave him short of time for various things, and, if he hasn’t found time (state of mind, etc) to fully digest something, I don’t think he will add a fix until he finds the time.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

Come on, Jose, you can&#039;t believe the nonsense you&#039;re spouting. Roy&#039;s decided to leave clearly erroneous and misleading information in a headline, in flagrant disregard for the truth, after he&#039;s been advised multiple times that it&#039;s an error. He uses a parody article to support a headline which is arguably directly damaging to Microsoft, because it&#039;s...directly damaging to Microsoft!

It&#039;s a &lt;I&gt;lie, &lt;/i&gt;Jose.

He claims to be a &lt;I&gt;journalist, &lt;/i&gt;Jose.

If Roy&#039;s priorities don&#039;t leave him enough time to &lt;I&gt;make the truth his top priority &lt;/i&gt;(HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Sorry.) then he should &lt;I&gt;not &lt;/i&gt;be calling himself a journalist.

This is what&#039;s going to land him in &lt;I&gt;big &lt;/i&gt;trouble, trust me.

And why do you spend all this time &lt;I&gt;explaining &lt;/i&gt;him? Are you his press agency or something?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><i>I think Roy has decided on a set of priorities that leave him short of time for various things, and, if he hasn’t found time (state of mind, etc) to fully digest something, I don’t think he will add a fix until he finds the time.</i></b></p>
<p>Come on, Jose, you can&#8217;t believe the nonsense you&#8217;re spouting. Roy&#8217;s decided to leave clearly erroneous and misleading information in a headline, in flagrant disregard for the truth, after he&#8217;s been advised multiple times that it&#8217;s an error. He uses a parody article to support a headline which is arguably directly damaging to Microsoft, because it&#8217;s&#8230;directly damaging to Microsoft!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a <i>lie, </i>Jose.</p>
<p>He claims to be a <i>journalist, </i>Jose.</p>
<p>If Roy&#8217;s priorities don&#8217;t leave him enough time to <i>make the truth his top priority </i>(HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Sorry.) then he should <i>not </i>be calling himself a journalist.</p>
<p>This is what&#8217;s going to land him in <i>big </i>trouble, trust me.</p>
<p>And why do you spend all this time <i>explaining </i>him? Are you his press agency or something?</p>
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		<title>By: Jose_X</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/07/17/vista-7-is-vaporware-admission/comment-page-2/#comment-70686</link>
		<dc:creator>Jose_X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 06:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt; Clearly, an effort by Roy to use deception to misguide readers, since it has to be brought to his attention earlier in this thread and he hasn’t admitted his mistake and posted a fix yet.

I think Roy has decided on a set of priorities that leave him short of time for various things, and, if he hasn&#039;t found time (state of mind, etc) to fully digest something, I don&#039;t think he will add a fix until he finds the time. He trusts some authors and sources (like SJVN, I think) and probably didn&#039;t read the article very well. I don&#039;t think he gets paid to so this. The comments already serve as bug reports. It&#039;s not my business how he chooses to allot his time (though people can certainly complain if they want).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt; Clearly, an effort by Roy to use deception to misguide readers, since it has to be brought to his attention earlier in this thread and he hasn’t admitted his mistake and posted a fix yet.</p>
<p>I think Roy has decided on a set of priorities that leave him short of time for various things, and, if he hasn&#8217;t found time (state of mind, etc) to fully digest something, I don&#8217;t think he will add a fix until he finds the time. He trusts some authors and sources (like SJVN, I think) and probably didn&#8217;t read the article very well. I don&#8217;t think he gets paid to so this. The comments already serve as bug reports. It&#8217;s not my business how he chooses to allot his time (though people can certainly complain if they want).</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Wong</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/07/17/vista-7-is-vaporware-admission/comment-page-2/#comment-70679</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Wong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 05:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The article that Roy used was a parody article. The author even admitted as much in the last paragraph.

Windows 7 has been announced to ship to the public on October 22nd, with OEM manufacturers getting it earlier so they can install it on their new machines.

Since July, many places in the world are already taking preorders for it.

I have been running Beta and RC (both pre-release) versions of Windows 7 since last year.

Considering everything above, I can&#039;t see how any sane or objective person can consider Windows 7 vaporware or even claim that Ballmer &quot;Admits that (Windows) 7 is Just Vaporware&quot; (subject title).

Clearly, an effort by Roy to use deception to misguide readers, since it has to be brought to his attention earlier in this thread and he hasn&#039;t admitted his mistake and posted a fix yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The article that Roy used was a parody article. The author even admitted as much in the last paragraph.</p>
<p>Windows 7 has been announced to ship to the public on October 22nd, with OEM manufacturers getting it earlier so they can install it on their new machines.</p>
<p>Since July, many places in the world are already taking preorders for it.</p>
<p>I have been running Beta and RC (both pre-release) versions of Windows 7 since last year.</p>
<p>Considering everything above, I can&#8217;t see how any sane or objective person can consider Windows 7 vaporware or even claim that Ballmer &#8220;Admits that (Windows) 7 is Just Vaporware&#8221; (subject title).</p>
<p>Clearly, an effort by Roy to use deception to misguide readers, since it has to be brought to his attention earlier in this thread and he hasn&#8217;t admitted his mistake and posted a fix yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Jose_X</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/07/17/vista-7-is-vaporware-admission/comment-page-2/#comment-70678</link>
		<dc:creator>Jose_X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 05:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I read that article the other day, I found it a bit confusing until the end, as others have said. There were complaints in the comments to SJVN that the title was misleading.

Roy, if you didn&#039;t read the whole article carefully (plus perhaps some comments) and missed that that title was possibly deceptive, then add a fix (apology, whatever) and move on.

The poll from that other blog entry suggests Windows 7 is already out. Can you confirm this Jonathan Wong?

Does anyone else have other information about the SJVN article?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I read that article the other day, I found it a bit confusing until the end, as others have said. There were complaints in the comments to SJVN that the title was misleading.</p>
<p>Roy, if you didn&#8217;t read the whole article carefully (plus perhaps some comments) and missed that that title was possibly deceptive, then add a fix (apology, whatever) and move on.</p>
<p>The poll from that other blog entry suggests Windows 7 is already out. Can you confirm this Jonathan Wong?</p>
<p>Does anyone else have other information about the SJVN article?</p>
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		<title>By: David "Lefty" Schlesinger</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/07/17/vista-7-is-vaporware-admission/comment-page-1/#comment-70675</link>
		<dc:creator>David "Lefty" Schlesinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 05:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Roy&#039;s rules also specify &quot;no censorship&quot;. If that the way it is, then that&#039;s the way it is, and &lt;I&gt;that&#039;s &lt;/i&gt;a two-edged sword, too.

As Roy has discovered.

And after all this Microsoft and the &lt;I&gt;real &lt;/i&gt;FLOSS community--I mean the one I hung out with at the Gran Canaria Desktop Summit last week--have finally found a point on which we&#039;re in complete agreement:

We all &lt;I&gt;loathe &lt;/i&gt;Roy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Roy&#8217;s rules also specify &#8220;no censorship&#8221;. If that the way it is, then that&#8217;s the way it is, and <i>that&#8217;s </i>a two-edged sword, too.</p>
<p>As Roy has discovered.</p>
<p>And after all this Microsoft and the <i>real </i>FLOSS community&#8211;I mean the one I hung out with at the Gran Canaria Desktop Summit last week&#8211;have finally found a point on which we&#8217;re in complete agreement:</p>
<p>We all <i>loathe </i>Roy.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Wong</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/07/17/vista-7-is-vaporware-admission/comment-page-2/#comment-70667</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Wong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 05:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I guess when Roy starts to seriously focus on his ad hominem attacks instead of responding to your arguments, I know he has no answer because he knows he is trapped.

I&#039;ve commented on three posts here this week. Every discussion resulted to something about Microsoft and disclosures and astroturfing and blah blah blah.

Hey, if you can&#039;t beat them in debate, attack their character instead! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I guess when Roy starts to seriously focus on his ad hominem attacks instead of responding to your arguments, I know he has no answer because he knows he is trapped.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve commented on three posts here this week. Every discussion resulted to something about Microsoft and disclosures and astroturfing and blah blah blah.</p>
<p>Hey, if you can&#8217;t beat them in debate, attack their character instead! <img src='http://techrights.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Wong</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/07/17/vista-7-is-vaporware-admission/comment-page-1/#comment-70665</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Wong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 05:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@David

Thanks for standing up for me. It&#039;s alright. It&#039;s Roy&#039;s blog. So he gets to set the rules and stifle whatever he feels he needs to stifle.

Anyway, I find the whole experience engaging here rather... &lt;i&gt;amusing&lt;/i&gt;. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@David</p>
<p>Thanks for standing up for me. It&#8217;s alright. It&#8217;s Roy&#8217;s blog. So he gets to set the rules and stifle whatever he feels he needs to stifle.</p>
<p>Anyway, I find the whole experience engaging here rather&#8230; <i>amusing</i>. <img src='http://techrights.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: zooquack</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/07/17/vista-7-is-vaporware-admission/comment-page-2/#comment-70633</link>
		<dc:creator>zooquack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 02:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no question that Mr. Schestowitz is already on the radar screen for libel, slander, defamation of character, lost business  amongst other things. His actions are being watched and documented in full and at some point, the big guns are going to unload in his direction.  Hopefully he didn&#039;t spend all his grant and student loan money because he is going to need it for his defense fund.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no question that Mr. Schestowitz is already on the radar screen for libel, slander, defamation of character, lost business  amongst other things. His actions are being watched and documented in full and at some point, the big guns are going to unload in his direction.  Hopefully he didn&#8217;t spend all his grant and student loan money because he is going to need it for his defense fund.</p>
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		<title>By: zooquack</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/07/17/vista-7-is-vaporware-admission/comment-page-2/#comment-70631</link>
		<dc:creator>zooquack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 01:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ubuntu is a good distribution and has brought Linux to people who may never have even tried Linux before. It&#039;s not perfect, nothing is, but it is very popular.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ubuntu is a good distribution and has brought Linux to people who may never have even tried Linux before. It&#8217;s not perfect, nothing is, but it is very popular.</p>
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		<title>By: zooquack</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/07/17/vista-7-is-vaporware-admission/comment-page-2/#comment-70629</link>
		<dc:creator>zooquack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 01:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe someone should report you to your University for using their network to channel all your garbage out on to the net. Hiding behind your friend&#039;s BT NNTP server doesn&#039;t absolve you of the fact you use your school like an ISP to get free access. 
You should also be reported for spamming as well because that&#039;s what your Usenet activities consist of, mostly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe someone should report you to your University for using their network to channel all your garbage out on to the net. Hiding behind your friend&#8217;s BT NNTP server doesn&#8217;t absolve you of the fact you use your school like an ISP to get free access.<br />
You should also be reported for spamming as well because that&#8217;s what your Usenet activities consist of, mostly.</p>
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		<title>By: zooquack</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/07/17/vista-7-is-vaporware-admission/comment-page-2/#comment-70626</link>
		<dc:creator>zooquack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 01:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It appears that Mr. Schestowitz&#039;s output is a 24x7 operation when all is considered. 
So who is paying him?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It appears that Mr. Schestowitz&#8217;s output is a 24&#215;7 operation when all is considered.<br />
So who is paying him?</p>
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		<title>By: David "Lefty" Schlesinger</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/07/17/vista-7-is-vaporware-admission/comment-page-2/#comment-70623</link>
		<dc:creator>David "Lefty" Schlesinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 01:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roy, that title really is out of hand; I don&#039;t see that Ballmer admitted any such thing. I hope for your sake that Microsoft legal doesn&#039;t hire an ambitious summer intern who takes an interest in you. They might beat me to thrashing the living legal daylights out of you, and that would make me sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roy, that title really is out of hand; I don&#8217;t see that Ballmer admitted any such thing. I hope for your sake that Microsoft legal doesn&#8217;t hire an ambitious summer intern who takes an interest in you. They might beat me to thrashing the living legal daylights out of you, and that would make me sad.</p>
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		<title>By: David "Lefty" Schlesinger</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/07/17/vista-7-is-vaporware-admission/comment-page-1/#comment-70621</link>
		<dc:creator>David "Lefty" Schlesinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 01:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roy never admits that he&#039;s ever done anything wrong (at least not until you manage to convince him that you&#039;re completely serious when you say you&#039;re fixing to haul his sorry, lying ass into a courtroom and sue him for defamation; &lt;I&gt;then, &lt;/i&gt;after a false start or two, he&#039;ll post a full retraction and an apology &lt;I&gt;that you have to &lt;B&gt;dictate to him&lt;/b&gt;, as well as a promise to endeavor to be less irresponsible in the future, a promise which he&#039;ll break within hours.

This is because Roy &lt;I&gt;never &lt;/i&gt;tells a lie.

Believe that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roy never admits that he&#8217;s ever done anything wrong (at least not until you manage to convince him that you&#8217;re completely serious when you say you&#8217;re fixing to haul his sorry, lying ass into a courtroom and sue him for defamation; <i>then, </i>after a false start or two, he&#8217;ll post a full retraction and an apology <i>that you have to <b>dictate to him</b>, as well as a promise to endeavor to be less irresponsible in the future, a promise which he&#8217;ll break within hours.</p>
<p>This is because Roy </i><i>never </i>tells a lie.</p>
<p>Believe that?</p>
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		<title>By: David "Lefty" Schlesinger</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/07/17/vista-7-is-vaporware-admission/comment-page-1/#comment-70620</link>
		<dc:creator>David "Lefty" Schlesinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 01:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;B&gt;&lt;I&gt;AstroTurfing is against the law where I live. &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

Good thing being kneejerk &lt;I&gt;stupid &lt;/i&gt;isn&#039;t, you&#039;d be in for life, Roy.

He identified himself at the outset. I don&#039;t believe he&#039;s required to &lt;I&gt;continually &lt;/i&gt;identify himself under any &quot;Astroturfing&quot; law with which I&#039;m familiar. This site doesn&#039;t sell anything, and it doesn&#039;t do product reviews, so it&#039;s unclear to me what he&#039;d do that would fall under the definition of &quot;astroturfing&quot;, anyway.

If you want to follow Jonathan around the site and shriek, &quot;He&#039;s from Microsoft! He&#039;s from Microsoft!&quot; have at it. After all, you&#039;ve done as much for others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><i>AstroTurfing is against the law where I live. </i></b></p>
<p>Good thing being kneejerk <i>stupid </i>isn&#8217;t, you&#8217;d be in for life, Roy.</p>
<p>He identified himself at the outset. I don&#8217;t believe he&#8217;s required to <i>continually </i>identify himself under any &#8220;Astroturfing&#8221; law with which I&#8217;m familiar. This site doesn&#8217;t sell anything, and it doesn&#8217;t do product reviews, so it&#8217;s unclear to me what he&#8217;d do that would fall under the definition of &#8220;astroturfing&#8221;, anyway.</p>
<p>If you want to follow Jonathan around the site and shriek, &#8220;He&#8217;s from Microsoft! He&#8217;s from Microsoft!&#8221; have at it. After all, you&#8217;ve done as much for others.</p>
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		<title>By: David "Lefty" Schlesinger</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/07/17/vista-7-is-vaporware-admission/comment-page-1/#comment-70619</link>
		<dc:creator>David "Lefty" Schlesinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 01:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why should he have to do that, Roy. If you want to institute a policy that &lt;I&gt;everyone &lt;/i&gt;on the site needs to say who they&#039;re employed by, fine, but Jonathan&#039;s already identified himself as working for Microsoft. Why single him out (other than your fanatical, irrational hatred of Microsoft)?

I&#039;d compromise and agree that Jonathan would add a note saying he worked for Microsoft if you file a complete financial disclosure form so all of us know how &lt;I&gt;you&#039;re &lt;/i&gt;being supported.

You&#039;re the &quot;editor&quot; here, you should be held to a higher standard.

And I feel as though you&#039;re trying to stifle discussion, unfairly. You slam Microsoft all the time; should no one be allowed to fairly present their point of view? I mean, they&#039;ve &lt;I&gt;got &lt;/i&gt;one. I don&#039;t &lt;I&gt;agree &lt;/i&gt;with it, and I wouldn&#039;t have Bill Hilf&#039;s job for all the tea in the Solar System, but that&#039;s not the point.

Journalism, Roy. Fair. Balanced. Try it for a change.

FULL DISCLOSURE: I do not, and have never, worked for Microsoft in any capacity whatsoever. I &lt;I&gt;did &lt;/i&gt;get a Port 25 t-shirt once, but I gave it to Goodwill (sorry, Jonathan, it&#039;s kind of a boring shirt...). I do not believe that Microsoft, Inc. is the Antichrist, I do not believe that Microsoft employees are demonically possessed, I do not believe that Steve Ballmer has horns and a tail. I believe that Microsoft is a very big company that&#039;s made a lot of bad moves and bad calls, and I&#039;d watch &#039;em like a hawk, but I also believe that, in their quest to control the desktop, they&#039;re putting themselves in the position of the guy who cornered the buggywhip market in 1908. I further believe that open will ultimately always win over closed. So &lt;I&gt;there.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why should he have to do that, Roy. If you want to institute a policy that <i>everyone </i>on the site needs to say who they&#8217;re employed by, fine, but Jonathan&#8217;s already identified himself as working for Microsoft. Why single him out (other than your fanatical, irrational hatred of Microsoft)?</p>
<p>I&#8217;d compromise and agree that Jonathan would add a note saying he worked for Microsoft if you file a complete financial disclosure form so all of us know how <i>you&#8217;re </i>being supported.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re the &#8220;editor&#8221; here, you should be held to a higher standard.</p>
<p>And I feel as though you&#8217;re trying to stifle discussion, unfairly. You slam Microsoft all the time; should no one be allowed to fairly present their point of view? I mean, they&#8217;ve <i>got </i>one. I don&#8217;t <i>agree </i>with it, and I wouldn&#8217;t have Bill Hilf&#8217;s job for all the tea in the Solar System, but that&#8217;s not the point.</p>
<p>Journalism, Roy. Fair. Balanced. Try it for a change.</p>
<p>FULL DISCLOSURE: I do not, and have never, worked for Microsoft in any capacity whatsoever. I <i>did </i>get a Port 25 t-shirt once, but I gave it to Goodwill (sorry, Jonathan, it&#8217;s kind of a boring shirt&#8230;). I do not believe that Microsoft, Inc. is the Antichrist, I do not believe that Microsoft employees are demonically possessed, I do not believe that Steve Ballmer has horns and a tail. I believe that Microsoft is a very big company that&#8217;s made a lot of bad moves and bad calls, and I&#8217;d watch &#8216;em like a hawk, but I also believe that, in their quest to control the desktop, they&#8217;re putting themselves in the position of the guy who cornered the buggywhip market in 1908. I further believe that open will ultimately always win over closed. So <i>there.</i></p>
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		<title>By: jocaferro</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/07/17/vista-7-is-vaporware-admission/comment-page-2/#comment-70575</link>
		<dc:creator>jocaferro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UBUNTHU!?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UBUNTHU!?</p>
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		<title>By: satipera</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/07/17/vista-7-is-vaporware-admission/comment-page-2/#comment-70564</link>
		<dc:creator>satipera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I missed the quotation marks. &quot;For dummies&quot; has become shorthand for an introduction with a gentle learning curve, there is nothing wrong with this at all and often helps attracting new people. Although your post was not as bad as I first thought I would suggest avoiding anything that could be misinterpreted as being dismissive or elitist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I missed the quotation marks. &#8220;For dummies&#8221; has become shorthand for an introduction with a gentle learning curve, there is nothing wrong with this at all and often helps attracting new people. Although your post was not as bad as I first thought I would suggest avoiding anything that could be misinterpreted as being dismissive or elitist.</p>
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