Comments on: Another Microsoft Product Dies as the Company Prepares for Horrible Financial Results http://techrights.org/2009/07/19/popfly-dead-microsoft-to-report-fall/ Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those threatened by software freedom Tue, 07 Feb 2012 14:00:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Andrew Macabe http://techrights.org/2009/07/19/popfly-dead-microsoft-to-report-fall/comment-page-1/#comment-70930 Andrew Macabe Mon, 20 Jul 2009 12:29:41 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=15116#comment-70930 Could be the same people that scared ASUS into dumping xp home on their little netbook. Could be the same people that scared ASUS into dumping xp home on their little netbook.

]]> By: Ijika http://techrights.org/2009/07/19/popfly-dead-microsoft-to-report-fall/comment-page-1/#comment-70924 Ijika Mon, 20 Jul 2009 04:19:05 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=15116#comment-70924 How can an organization "insult" an operating system? Do operating systems have feelings? How can an organization “insult” an operating system? Do operating systems have feelings?

]]> By: DiamondWakizashi http://techrights.org/2009/07/19/popfly-dead-microsoft-to-report-fall/comment-page-1/#comment-70917 DiamondWakizashi Mon, 20 Jul 2009 00:43:17 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=15116#comment-70917 Nvidia wants Microsoft to continue using their Tegra chipset in the Zune garbage. http://techblips.dailyradar.com/story/zune_hd_confirmed_to_use_nvidia_tegra/ Nvidia is ridiculous, insulting Linux because of the stupid Zune. Nvidia wants Microsoft to continue using their Tegra chipset in the Zune garbage.

http://techblips.dailyradar.com/story/zune_hd_confirmed_to_use_nvidia_tegra/

Nvidia is ridiculous, insulting Linux because of the stupid Zune.

]]> By: Mikko http://techrights.org/2009/07/19/popfly-dead-microsoft-to-report-fall/comment-page-1/#comment-70916 Mikko Mon, 20 Jul 2009 00:07:42 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=15116#comment-70916 i wonder what scared nvidia to recommend windows ce for arm based netbooks i wonder what scared nvidia to recommend windows ce for arm based netbooks

]]> By: Jonathan Wong http://techrights.org/2009/07/19/popfly-dead-microsoft-to-report-fall/comment-page-1/#comment-70903 Jonathan Wong Sun, 19 Jul 2009 19:21:02 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=15116#comment-70903 Hmm... I'm not very familiar with Windows CE, but I'm not convinced that Windows CE in its current state gives users the experience they want from a netbook. The last CE version (6.x) was released in 2006, and as expected, lacks some the one thing a mobile netbook user likely will need - a modern web browser. The good thing for the consumers is that they are spoilt for choice, since besides Windows CE there are likely many other OS choices (both now and upcoming) for your ARM-based netbook. Hmm…

I’m not very familiar with Windows CE, but I’m not convinced that Windows CE in its current state gives users the experience they want from a netbook.

The last CE version (6.x) was released in 2006, and as expected, lacks some the one thing a mobile netbook user likely will need – a modern web browser.

The good thing for the consumers is that they are spoilt for choice, since besides Windows CE there are likely many other OS choices (both now and upcoming) for your ARM-based netbook.

]]> By: Mikko http://techrights.org/2009/07/19/popfly-dead-microsoft-to-report-fall/comment-page-1/#comment-70901 Mikko Sun, 19 Jul 2009 18:56:11 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=15116#comment-70901 Nvidia recommends Windows CE for ARM-based netbooks http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9134522/Nvidia_For_smartbooks_Windows_CE_beats_Android_?taxonomyId=162&pageNumber=1&taxonomyName=Processors Nvidia recommends Windows CE for ARM-based netbooks

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9134522/Nvidia_For_smartbooks_Windows_CE_beats_Android_?taxonomyId=162&pageNumber=1&taxonomyName=Processors

]]> By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2009/07/19/popfly-dead-microsoft-to-report-fall/comment-page-1/#comment-70899 Roy Schestowitz Sun, 19 Jul 2009 18:27:13 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=15116#comment-70899 Jonathan Wong, please disclose that you are a Microsoft employee (TE). Jonathan Wong, please disclose that you are a Microsoft employee (TE).

]]> By: David Gerard http://techrights.org/2009/07/19/popfly-dead-microsoft-to-report-fall/comment-page-1/#comment-70887 David Gerard Sun, 19 Jul 2009 14:53:14 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=15116#comment-70887 An ARM netbook that can run plain Debian ARM would be a perfectly lovely netbook for pretty much anything I do. Flash is the main proprietary sticking point, with no good free implementation. (Every patent-encumbered codec I can think of that people actually use has a good free software implementation in FFmpeg or gstreamer-plugins-bad/ugly.) At any given speed of processing, ARM/MIPS will outdo x86. Every x86 these days is essentially a RISC processor with an x86 instruction decoder on the front, but that instruction decoder is still crippling for power and speed compared to purer RISC. Though Atom is doing very well for lower power at usable performance. An ARM netbook that can run plain Debian ARM would be a perfectly lovely netbook for pretty much anything I do. Flash is the main proprietary sticking point, with no good free implementation. (Every patent-encumbered codec I can think of that people actually use has a good free software implementation in FFmpeg or gstreamer-plugins-bad/ugly.)

At any given speed of processing, ARM/MIPS will outdo x86. Every x86 these days is essentially a RISC processor with an x86 instruction decoder on the front, but that instruction decoder is still crippling for power and speed compared to purer RISC. Though Atom is doing very well for lower power at usable performance.

]]> By: Jonathan Wong http://techrights.org/2009/07/19/popfly-dead-microsoft-to-report-fall/comment-page-1/#comment-70884 Jonathan Wong Sun, 19 Jul 2009 14:44:24 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=15116#comment-70884 For what it's worth, I do think that Windows 7 should support ARM processors. However, I'm guessing that the engineering effort to adopt an x86-based OS like Windows to support ARM may be quite substantial. IMO, this would be a great opportunity for Google Chrome OS, if and when it does come out next year. For what it’s worth, I do think that Windows 7 should support ARM processors.

However, I’m guessing that the engineering effort to adopt an x86-based OS like Windows to support ARM may be quite substantial.

IMO, this would be a great opportunity for Google Chrome OS, if and when it does come out next year.

]]> By: Andrew Macabe http://techrights.org/2009/07/19/popfly-dead-microsoft-to-report-fall/comment-page-1/#comment-70882 Andrew Macabe Sun, 19 Jul 2009 14:24:27 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=15116#comment-70882 Not really; microsoft is waiting for EU_AntiTrust_Conviction v2.0 Not really; microsoft is waiting for

EU_AntiTrust_Conviction v2.0

]]> By: David Gerard http://techrights.org/2009/07/19/popfly-dead-microsoft-to-report-fall/comment-page-1/#comment-70881 David Gerard Sun, 19 Jul 2009 14:12:43 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=15116#comment-70881 Netbooks are a game changer. Our MSI Wind is my preferred main laptop. I live in the cloud. Even at home, my data lives on the household file server. The most inconvenient thing about switching machines is making sure the local install of Gimp has images I was working on. Netbooks are a game changer. Our MSI Wind is my preferred main laptop.

I live in the cloud. Even at home, my data lives on the household file server. The most inconvenient thing about switching machines is making sure the local install of Gimp has images I was working on.

]]> By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2009/07/19/popfly-dead-microsoft-to-report-fall/comment-page-1/#comment-70880 Roy Schestowitz Sun, 19 Jul 2009 14:06:54 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=15116#comment-70880 Wait... this is precious. "<em>[A] blow to the British firm's hopes of becoming a big player in the sector. [...] No one at ARM was immediately available for comment.</em>" So Microsoft told them that it's a blow to ARM, but they didn't even confirm this with ARM. This is just bad reporting. ARM was happy with Linux all along. Wait… this is precious. “[A] blow to the British firm’s hopes of becoming a big player in the sector. [...] No one at ARM was immediately available for comment.”

So Microsoft told them that it’s a blow to ARM, but they didn’t even confirm this with ARM.

This is just bad reporting. ARM was happy with Linux all along.

]]> By: Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2009/07/19/popfly-dead-microsoft-to-report-fall/comment-page-1/#comment-70879 Roy Schestowitz Sun, 19 Jul 2009 14:03:34 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=15116#comment-70879 Yes, it is hard to ignore that bit, is it not? See the opening of <a href="http://news.alibaba.com/article/detail/technology/100112925-1-interview-microsoft-exclude-arm-netbooks-windows.html" rel="nofollow">this article</a>. Nice spin. Yes, it is hard to ignore that bit, is it not? See the opening of this article.

Nice spin.

]]> By: David Gerard http://techrights.org/2009/07/19/popfly-dead-microsoft-to-report-fall/comment-page-1/#comment-70873 David Gerard Sun, 19 Jul 2009 13:28:12 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=15116#comment-70873 No, no! The press spin is that Windows 7 not supporting ARM is bad for *ARM*, not bad for *Microsoft*. Get with the cool kids! No, no! The press spin is that Windows 7 not supporting ARM is bad for *ARM*, not bad for *Microsoft*. Get with the cool kids!

]]> By: Andrew Macabe http://techrights.org/2009/07/19/popfly-dead-microsoft-to-report-fall/comment-page-1/#comment-70870 Andrew Macabe Sun, 19 Jul 2009 11:54:20 +0000 http://boycottnovell.com/?p=15116#comment-70870 The netbook phenomena has been heavily discussed in our local groups for a while now. Some disagree with us saying it's a passing phase. OTOH we say it's a game changer or else why would microsoft continues to endeavor to kill not only its inception (OLPC) but the current offerings available from major OEM copycats. Most of our client userbase (poor and well to do) keep asking us for netbooks. Microsoft's dumping of a 8 year old application (XP) masquerading as an OS on the netbook is seen as brilliant by some established bloggers, journalists and analysts, we see that as an act of desperation. OEM strangulation and blackmail by microsoft can be readily seen by how the convicted Redmond monopolist defines what a netbook should be. Shouldn't that be left up to the OEMs decide? The netbook phenomena has been heavily discussed in our local groups for a while now. Some disagree with us saying it’s a passing phase. OTOH we say it’s a game changer or else why would microsoft continues to endeavor to kill not only its inception (OLPC) but the current offerings available from major OEM copycats. Most of our client userbase (poor and well to do) keep asking us for netbooks.

Microsoft’s dumping of a 8 year old application (XP) masquerading as an OS on the netbook is seen as brilliant by some established bloggers, journalists and analysts, we see that as an act of desperation. OEM strangulation and blackmail by microsoft can be readily seen by how the convicted Redmond monopolist defines what a netbook should be. Shouldn’t that be left up to the OEMs decide?

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