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		<title>By: verofakto</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/11/14/mono-attributed-to-microsoft/comment-page-1/#comment-75574</link>
		<dc:creator>verofakto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Roy,

Would it not be appropriate for you to disclose who &quot;your_friend&quot; actually is? Especially in light of the fact that he&#039;s fallen into the old pattern of attacking people who post corrections or disagree with you? And your accusations of &quot;nymshifting&quot; directed at people who used multiple accounts on your blog, because you deleted their accounts? Did you also delete his old account by any chance?

As for corrections, just off the top of my head, you might want to revisit &lt;a href=&quot;http://boycottnovell.com/2009/11/02/gates-africa-un-education/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; article. I suspect your conclusions about this Andrea Taylor woman were a bit rushed and based on what you were reading in her bio, because I could find no evidence that she has attended or otherwise engaged any United Nations summits &lt;i&gt;on behalf&lt;/i&gt; of Microsoft. 

Well, most inaccuracies are usually lost in the shuffle of your posting volume anyway, so it&#039;s probably not important.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Roy,</p>
<p>Would it not be appropriate for you to disclose who &#8220;your_friend&#8221; actually is? Especially in light of the fact that he&#8217;s fallen into the old pattern of attacking people who post corrections or disagree with you? And your accusations of &#8220;nymshifting&#8221; directed at people who used multiple accounts on your blog, because you deleted their accounts? Did you also delete his old account by any chance?</p>
<p>As for corrections, just off the top of my head, you might want to revisit <a href="http://boycottnovell.com/2009/11/02/gates-africa-un-education/" rel="nofollow">this</a> article. I suspect your conclusions about this Andrea Taylor woman were a bit rushed and based on what you were reading in her bio, because I could find no evidence that she has attended or otherwise engaged any United Nations summits <i>on behalf</i> of Microsoft. </p>
<p>Well, most inaccuracies are usually lost in the shuffle of your posting volume anyway, so it&#8217;s probably not important.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/11/14/mono-attributed-to-microsoft/comment-page-1/#comment-75573</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s more to do with promoting VS (thus Windows, .NET, XAML, and so on).


&lt;font size=&quot;4&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;&quot;Every line of code that is written to our standards is a small victory; every line of code that is written to any other standard, is a small defeat.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/font&gt;
&lt;p align=&quot;right&quot;&gt;
                                --&lt;font size=&quot;3&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://boycottnovell.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/comes-3096.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;James Plamondon, Microsoft Technical Evangelist. From Exhibit 3096; Comes v. Microsoft litigation&lt;/a&gt; &lt;code&gt;[PDF]&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/font&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s more to do with promoting VS (thus Windows, .NET, XAML, and so on).</p>
<p><font size="4"><em>&#8220;Every line of code that is written to our standards is a small victory; every line of code that is written to any other standard, is a small defeat.&#8221;</em></font></p>
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                                &#8211;<font size="3"><a href="http://boycottnovell.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/comes-3096.pdf" rel="nofollow">James Plamondon, Microsoft Technical Evangelist. From Exhibit 3096; Comes v. Microsoft litigation</a> <code>[PDF]</code></font></p>
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		<title>By: your_friend</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/11/14/mono-attributed-to-microsoft/comment-page-1/#comment-75571</link>
		<dc:creator>your_friend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Technically correct, factually misleading and entirely negative.  It would be nice of WickeShim to share real information about Teamprise rather than try to use one factual mistake to attack the author and undermine all of the correct information presented.  Perhaps I&#039;m wrong about Microsoft&#039;s intentions for buying Teamprise but their products are surely related to things that are near and dear to Novell these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Technically correct, factually misleading and entirely negative.  It would be nice of WickeShim to share real information about Teamprise rather than try to use one factual mistake to attack the author and undermine all of the correct information presented.  Perhaps I&#8217;m wrong about Microsoft&#8217;s intentions for buying Teamprise but their products are surely related to things that are near and dear to Novell these days.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/11/14/mono-attributed-to-microsoft/comment-page-1/#comment-75568</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Why so negative, WickeShim? &lt;/blockquote&gt;

No, technically he is correct. I &lt;a href=&quot;http://boycottnovell.com/2009/11/11/microsoft-mono-fans/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;wrote about Teamprise a few days ago&lt;/a&gt; and the VS+Linux content had me overlook the obvious.

Thanks, WickeShim.

As for &quot;utter lack of research,&quot; given that I posted about 8,000 items here, errors may sometimes occur, not deliberately. It helps to have corrections.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Why so negative, WickeShim? </p></blockquote>
<p>No, technically he is correct. I <a href="http://boycottnovell.com/2009/11/11/microsoft-mono-fans/" rel="nofollow">wrote about Teamprise a few days ago</a> and the VS+Linux content had me overlook the obvious.</p>
<p>Thanks, WickeShim.</p>
<p>As for &#8220;utter lack of research,&#8221; given that I posted about 8,000 items here, errors may sometimes occur, not deliberately. It helps to have corrections.</p>
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		<title>By: your_friend</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/11/14/mono-attributed-to-microsoft/comment-page-1/#comment-75564</link>
		<dc:creator>your_friend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why so negative, WickeShim?  Roy has stumbled upon another story of Microsoft squashing competition.  Can you tell us more about this intigrating competitor that Microsoft just bought out?   Acquisition by Microsoft usually leads to the removal of tools because they do the job better than the Microsoft toy or the other tool threatens some other Microsoft goal.   A good example of that would be the wave of backup software acquisitions Microsoft made in the mid 90s.

In this example, Microsoft is acquiring a development tool that competed with Visual Studio.  The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2009/nov09/11-09TeamprisePR.mspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;carefully worded Microsoft press release&lt;/a&gt; claims that the &quot;technology&quot; will be &quot;available in the Visual Studio 2010 wave&quot; and that the Teampise Client Suite will only be available and supported until VS launches.  So Microsoft is eliminating a mono competitor and people sick enough to fool with W32 are forced to the Microsoft taxed and approved Visual Studio or Novell.  Per Microsoft&#039;s Shady Operating Procedures, the terms were not disclosed and are unavailable for research.  The details are less important than the big picture.  

The real mystery is that people still have anything to do with the a criminal organization that considers them &quot;pawns&quot; and one night stands.  Though it looks like Novell is being helped here, you have to remember that all Novell&#039;s mono efforts distract from their core products and that Microsoft is busy replacing Groupware with Exchange.  Novell would have been better off eliminating their Microsoft dependencies and converting it&#039;s existing Groupware base to Suse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why so negative, WickeShim?  Roy has stumbled upon another story of Microsoft squashing competition.  Can you tell us more about this intigrating competitor that Microsoft just bought out?   Acquisition by Microsoft usually leads to the removal of tools because they do the job better than the Microsoft toy or the other tool threatens some other Microsoft goal.   A good example of that would be the wave of backup software acquisitions Microsoft made in the mid 90s.</p>
<p>In this example, Microsoft is acquiring a development tool that competed with Visual Studio.  The <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2009/nov09/11-09TeamprisePR.mspx" rel="nofollow">carefully worded Microsoft press release</a> claims that the &#8220;technology&#8221; will be &#8220;available in the Visual Studio 2010 wave&#8221; and that the Teampise Client Suite will only be available and supported until VS launches.  So Microsoft is eliminating a mono competitor and people sick enough to fool with W32 are forced to the Microsoft taxed and approved Visual Studio or Novell.  Per Microsoft&#8217;s Shady Operating Procedures, the terms were not disclosed and are unavailable for research.  The details are less important than the big picture.  </p>
<p>The real mystery is that people still have anything to do with the a criminal organization that considers them &#8220;pawns&#8221; and one night stands.  Though it looks like Novell is being helped here, you have to remember that all Novell&#8217;s mono efforts distract from their core products and that Microsoft is busy replacing Groupware with Exchange.  Novell would have been better off eliminating their Microsoft dependencies and converting it&#8217;s existing Groupware base to Suse.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/11/14/mono-attributed-to-microsoft/comment-page-1/#comment-75548</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right. I&#039;m going to correct this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right. I&#8217;m going to correct this.</p>
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		<title>By: wickedshimmy</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/11/14/mono-attributed-to-microsoft/comment-page-1/#comment-75547</link>
		<dc:creator>wickedshimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;A Microsoft-boosting site, TG Daily, has chosen the headline “Microsoft to ship Linux tools” and along the same lines we find the article &quot;Microsoft to enable Visual Studio on Linux and Mac OS X”

Hold on a second.

Microsoft?

Wasn’t it a Novell project?&quot;


Don&#039;t look now, but your utter lack of research is showing. Both of those articles are about Microsoft&#039;s purchase of Teamprise, and have less than nothing to do with any of Mono, the new Visual Studio Tools, or Novell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A Microsoft-boosting site, TG Daily, has chosen the headline “Microsoft to ship Linux tools” and along the same lines we find the article &#8220;Microsoft to enable Visual Studio on Linux and Mac OS X”</p>
<p>Hold on a second.</p>
<p>Microsoft?</p>
<p>Wasn’t it a Novell project?&#8221;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t look now, but your utter lack of research is showing. Both of those articles are about Microsoft&#8217;s purchase of Teamprise, and have less than nothing to do with any of Mono, the new Visual Studio Tools, or Novell.</p>
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