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	<title>Comments on: Novell Supports GNU/Linux-Hostile Software, NASA Excludes With it After Microsoft MoU</title>
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		<title>By: finalzone</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/11/26/silver-lie-microsoft-mou/comment-page-1/#comment-76160</link>
		<dc:creator>finalzone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 11:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DVD version still has Gimp. Because of the size limit of LiveCD, Gimp was removed not only for language support but for the new features like initrd system called Dracut. I confirmed it being myself one of Fedora contributors (packager and designer).
Be in mind it is possible to create a LiveUSB with permanent storage and just install Gimp.
http://lwn.net/Articles/363771/


&quot;why, is there a fedora site that mentions this? &quot;

It is actually mentioned on mailing list.

http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.desktop/4993 

https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-desktop-list/2009-November/msg00059.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DVD version still has Gimp. Because of the size limit of LiveCD, Gimp was removed not only for language support but for the new features like initrd system called Dracut. I confirmed it being myself one of Fedora contributors (packager and designer).<br />
Be in mind it is possible to create a LiveUSB with permanent storage and just install Gimp.<br />
<a href="http://lwn.net/Articles/363771/" rel="nofollow">http://lwn.net/Articles/363771/</a></p>
<p>&#8220;why, is there a fedora site that mentions this? &#8221;</p>
<p>It is actually mentioned on mailing list.</p>
<p><a href="http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.desktop/4993" rel="nofollow">http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.desktop/4993</a> </p>
<p><a href="https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-desktop-list/2009-November/msg00059.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-desktop-list/2009-November/msg00059.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: your_friend</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/11/26/silver-lie-microsoft-mou/comment-page-1/#comment-76159</link>
		<dc:creator>your_friend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 09:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fedora 12 live CD dumped GIMP?  &lt;a href=&quot;http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=fedora&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;It&#039;s still a part of Fedora&lt;/a&gt; and it&#039;s hard to believe there are language support issues for a program that includes almost no language in it&#039;s GUI or use.  I can&#039;t find anyting that says Gimp has been removed or why, is there a fedora site that mentions this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fedora 12 live CD dumped GIMP?  <a href="http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=fedora" rel="nofollow">It&#8217;s still a part of Fedora</a> and it&#8217;s hard to believe there are language support issues for a program that includes almost no language in it&#8217;s GUI or use.  I can&#8217;t find anyting that says Gimp has been removed or why, is there a fedora site that mentions this?</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Schestowitz</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/11/26/silver-lie-microsoft-mou/comment-page-1/#comment-76154</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Schestowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 00:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is also Ultimate Edition (formerly Ubuntu Ultimate Edition).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is also Ultimate Edition (formerly Ubuntu Ultimate Edition).</p>
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		<title>By: finalzone</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/11/26/silver-lie-microsoft-mou/comment-page-1/#comment-76153</link>
		<dc:creator>finalzone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 00:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Self correction. DVD version is indeed available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Self correction. DVD version is indeed available.</p>
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		<title>By: finalzone</title>
		<link>http://techrights.org/2009/11/26/silver-lie-microsoft-mou/comment-page-1/#comment-76152</link>
		<dc:creator>finalzone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 00:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To think Ubuntu does not even provide a DVD edition, then it is really bad tradeoff for LiveCD just to include Mono applications. It would be understand if Ubuntu had multiple languages support like Fedora 12 Gnome LiveCD iteration (that was the reason why Gimp had to be removed but can be easily installed until LiveCD is rebooted or using USB version).

As for Gimp, there is a plugin called Separate+ that allows to convert RGB to CMYK. Not truly CMYK per see but it does its job for print processing. 
http://cue.yellowmagic.info/softwares/separate-plus/index.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To think Ubuntu does not even provide a DVD edition, then it is really bad tradeoff for LiveCD just to include Mono applications. It would be understand if Ubuntu had multiple languages support like Fedora 12 Gnome LiveCD iteration (that was the reason why Gimp had to be removed but can be easily installed until LiveCD is rebooted or using USB version).</p>
<p>As for Gimp, there is a plugin called Separate+ that allows to convert RGB to CMYK. Not truly CMYK per see but it does its job for print processing.<br />
<a href="http://cue.yellowmagic.info/softwares/separate-plus/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://cue.yellowmagic.info/softwares/separate-plus/index.html</a></p>
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