05.28.10
MeeGo is Hijacked by the Mono Team
Summary: Novell/Microsoft influence in MeeGo is threatening Nokia and Intel with software patents tax
A MICROSOFT MVP seems to be confirming what we feared 3 months ago and knew after Lyle warned us yesterday. Here is what Lyle told us an hour ago:
May 28th, 2010 – 11:08:47-12:21:56
| lyle | schestowitz: did you see about MeeGo? | May 28 11:08 |
|---|---|---|
| lyle | it’s contaminated by MONO  |
May 28 11:08 |
| oiaohm | How lyle | May 28 11:09 |
| lyle | it comes with banshee by default | May 28 11:09 |
| lyle | and comes with mono compiler | May 28 11:09 |
| lyle | but no gcc | May 28 11:09 |
| oiaohm | meego 1.0 has gcc in it. | May 28 11:10 |
| lyle | my copy doesn’t | May 28 11:10 |
| lyle | I’m using LiveCD | May 28 11:10 |
| lyle | is that what you are using? | May 28 11:10 |
| lyle | meego-netbook-ia32-1.0.0.20100524.1.img | May 28 11:11 |
| lyle | there’s no gcc | May 28 11:12 |
| oiaohm | That is a 800 meg image ? | May 28 11:13 |
| lyle | yea | May 28 11:13 |
| lyle | is there a different one with gcc? | May 28 11:13 |
| oiaohm | I have development straith out git | May 28 11:14 |
| lyle | I’m sure I can install it after the fact, but the LiveCD doesn’t have it | May 28 11:14 |
| oiaohm | What gets me is straight out git does not have mono. | May 28 11:15 |
| lyle | weird | May 28 11:15 |
| oiaohm | At all | May 28 11:15 |
| lyle | seriously, try the LiveCD – you will see MONO | May 28 11:16 |
| lyle | what media player does meego have in git? | May 28 11:16 |
| lyle | rhythmbox? | May 28 11:16 |
| lyle | I think I see my boss | May 28 11:17 |
| lyle | finally | May 28 11:17 |
| lyle | yep, that’s him | May 28 11:17 |
| lyle | what media player does your mego git have oiaohm? | May 28 11:18 |
| oiaohm | QT based one. | May 28 11:18 |
| lyle | I wonder what player got pushed aside | May 28 11:18 |
| oiaohm | As I say wiered. | May 28 11:18 |
| lyle | did MONO boosters hijack the project at the last minute and force their MONO into meego? | May 28 11:20 |
| lyle | maybe that explains it | May 28 11:20 |
| MinceR | are the image and the git repo from the same site? | May 28 11:20 |
| oiaohm | Yes | May 28 11:21 |
| lyle | I got it from meego.com | May 28 11:21 |
| oiaohm | And he is right. | May 28 11:21 |
| oiaohm | Question now is why. | May 28 11:21 |
| lyle | btw, just saw this: http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2010/May-27.html | May 28 11:22 |
| Techrights | Title: Linux for Consumers: MeeGo Updates – Miguel de Icaza .::. Size~: 16.62 KB | May 28 11:22 |
| lyle | this is worrying | May 28 11:22 |
| oiaohm | Wound not been pulled in by evolution would it not. | May 28 11:22 |
| lyle | banshee is MONO too | May 28 11:22 |
| lyle | btw gotta go, shop opened up – gotta get to work | May 28 11:23 |
| lyle | would love to find out wtf happened tho | May 28 11:23 |
| lyle | good luck guys | May 28 11:23 |
| *lyle has quit (Quit: Page closed) | May 28 11:24 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft is Not an Open Source Company, It’s a Software Patents Company With Lobbyists http://ur1.ca/040wz #swpats | May 28 11:48 | |
| Techrights | Title: Microsoft is Not an Open Source Company, Its a Software Patents Company With Lobbyists | Techrights .::. Size~: 107.97 KB | May 28 11:48 |
| oiaohm | Posted question to meego developers over mono. schestowitz | May 28 12:13 |
| schestowitz | Hey | May 28 12:14 |
| schestowitz | I’m working on a post about it | May 28 12:14 |
| schestowitz | Remember Moblin | May 28 12:14 |
| oiaohm | banshee included as a sample app cased the include. | May 28 12:14 |
| schestowitz | OpenSUSE+mono has their grubby hands on it. | May 28 12:14 |
| schestowitz | Banchee is a big patent trap | May 28 12:15 |
| schestowitz | More so then others | May 28 12:15 |
| oiaohm | Mono might magically disappear. | May 28 12:15 |
| schestowitz | It contains libs that Microsoft /EXPLICITLY/ excluded | May 28 12:15 |
| oiaohm | Or there might be an agreement with Intel that covers mono. | May 28 12:15 |
| schestowitz | So we already know that Microsoft uses Banshee as a Trojan | May 28 12:15 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: yes, that’s what I reckoned | May 28 12:16 |
| oiaohm | I want to find out what is there. | May 28 12:16 |
| schestowitz | Intel must be x-licensing w/ Microsoft already | May 28 12:16 |
| schestowitz | Same with H-P | May 28 12:16 |
| schestowitz | But… | May 28 12:16 |
| oiaohm | Depends on how its licenced. | May 28 12:16 |
| *Python1320 (Python1320@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe2cdc00-164.dhcp.inet.fi) has joined #boycottnovell | May 28 12:16 | |
| *Python1320 has quit (Changing host) | May 28 12:16 | |
| *Python1320 (Python1320@unaffiliated/python1320) has joined #boycottnovell | May 28 12:16 | |
| schestowitz | Nokia’s Ari said Nokia would defend against Microsoft swpats attack | May 28 12:16 |
| oiaohm | Novell one suxs for downstream. | May 28 12:16 |
| schestowitz | So I’m mildly baffled | May 28 12:16 |
| schestowitz | Mixed msgs | May 28 12:16 |
| oiaohm | If Intel one is good for downstream. | May 28 12:17 |
| oiaohm | We might have a mono solution that makes everyone bar Novell happy. | May 28 12:17 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: how? | May 28 12:19 |
| oiaohm | If intel has a downstream protection agreement it can be exploited. | May 28 12:21 |
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