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09.06.11

Cablegate: Government of Oman is Sponsoring Microsoft, Helping to Indoctrinate the Population

Posted in Site News at 6:34 pm by Dr. Roy Schestowitz

Cablegate

Summary: Another shady deal between the Government of Oman and Microsoft, as revealed by a 2007 diplomatic cable

“The agreement, signed by Mohammed Nasser al-Khusaibi, Chairman of the ITA and Secretary General of the Ministry of National Economy, and Charbel Fakhoury, General Manager of Microsoft Gulf, calls for an investment of $6 million in establishing the center, $1 million of which is to come from Microsoft under its investment partnership accord with the Omani government (reftel).”

Wait, what?

Why is the government covering the large majority of the costs for a Microsoft recruitment centre? Does the public of Oman (taxpayers) know that this is going on? It was only yesterday that we wrote about the Government of Oman and Microsoft. The same types of deals happen in other countries and remain secret for a reason. Here is the later Cablegate cable (it came months later):


VZCZCXYZ0002
RR RUEHWEB

DE RUEHMS #0323 0910806
ZNR UUUUU ZZH
R 010806Z APR 07
FM AMEMBASSY MUSCAT
TO RUEHC/SECSTATE WASHDC 8035
INFO RUCPDOC/DEPT OF COMMERCE WASHDC

UNCLAS MUSCAT 000323 
 
SIPDIS 
 
SIPDIS 
 
STATE FOR NEA/ARP, EEB/CBA 
COMMERCE FOR COBERG 
 
E.O. 12958: N/A 
TAGS: ECON, EINV, KIPR, MU 
SUBJECT: MICROSOFT FIRMS PARTNERSHIP WITH GOVERNMENT 
 
REF: 06 MUSCAT 1282 
 
1. On March 27, Microsoft concluded an agreement with Oman's 
Information Technology Authority (ITA) to launch an 
innovation and support center, to be housed at Knowledge 
Oasis Muscat (KOM), the government-run technology incubator. 
The agreement, signed by Mohammed Nasser al-Khusaibi, 
Chairman of the ITA and Secretary General of the Ministry of 
National Economy, and Charbel Fakhoury, General Manager of 
Microsoft Gulf, calls for an investment of $6 million in 
establishing the center, $1 million of which is to come from 
Microsoft under its investment partnership accord with the 
Omani government (reftel).  Microsoft Country Manager 
Abdullah al-Lootah told Econoff that the center will house 
between 20 to 40 Omanis, who will be trained by Microsoft 
consultants to deliver services under the government's 
"E-Oman" initiative in two to three years' time. 
 
2. Lootah explained that the initiative is one of several 
Microsoft is pursuing to "bridge the technology skills gap" 
in Oman.  In addition to the innovation center, Microsoft 
will team with KOM and other selected partners in training 
300 Omani government professionals per year on Microsoft 
solutions.  To support the government's recent purchase of 
over 22,000 operating licenses, Microsoft will provide 24 
hour on-site support services.  In terms of further promoting 
knowledge transfer opportunities, Microsoft will sponsor six 
month visits by government officials to the company's Dubai 
office to educate them on "best financial practices." 
GRAPPO 


Why is Microsoft receiving this franchise in Oman? Does that serve the interests of the Omani people?

Cablegate: Microsoft Lobbies China to Attack Microsoft ‘Addicts’, Use “Minimum of Two-or-three Enforcement Showcases”

Posted in Asia, Microsoft at 6:19 pm by Dr. Roy Schestowitz

Cablegate

Summary: A look at how Microsoft is gently pressuring China to suit Microsoft rather than China

MICROSOFT along with its bully, the BSA, have been busy trying to make Chinese law a little more China-hostile, in order to increase Microsoft profits after it seeded the market. “They’ll get sort of addicted,” Bill Gates famously explained about Chinese people, “and then we’ll somehow figure out how to collect sometime in the next decade.”

Disgusting. Greed, addiction, exploitation. Cornerstones of Microsoft?

The Cablegate cable from 5 years ago shows us how Microsoft gently blackmails the Chinese, promising jobs only if they change Chinese practices to suit Microsoft:


VZCZCXRO1395
OO RUEHCN RUEHGH RUEHVC
DE RUEHGZ #0810/01 2700601
ZNR UUUUU ZZH
O 270601Z SEP 06
FM AMCONSUL GUANGZHOU
TO RUEHC/SECSTATE WASHDC IMMEDIATE 4043
INFO RUEHOO/CHINA POSTS COLLECTIVE
RUCPDOC/USDOC WASHDC
RUEHRC/USDA FAS WASHDC 0912
RUEAIIA/CIA WASHDC
RUEKJCS/DIA WASHDC
RHHMUNA/HQ USPACOM HONOLULU HI
UNCLAS SECTION 01 OF 02 GUANGZHOU 030810 
 
SIPDIS 
 
STATE FOR EAP/CM AND DRL 
USDA FOR FAS/ITP AND FAS/FAA 
USDOC FOR 4420/ITA/MAC/MCQUEEN 
USPACOM FOR FPA 
 
SENSITIVE 
SIPDIS 
 
E.O. 12958: N/A 
TAGS: ECON, EINV, KIPR, CH 
SUBJECT: Microsoft Growing Rapidly in South China 
 
 
 (U) This document is sensitive but unclassified.  Please protect 
accordingly. 
 
1. (SBU) Summary: Microsoft representatives told the Consul General 
September 21 that with the company's rapid growth in Shenzhen and 
elsewhere, they expect sales in South China to surpass those in Hong 
Kong.  Company representatives complained about weak copyright 
enforcement and asked the Consulate to continue to highlight the 
need for improved IPR protection with local government leaders.  End 
summary. 
 
South China: a fast-growing key market for software 
--------------------------------------------- ------ 
 
2. (U) The two representatives - Ni Jianbo, General Manager of the 
Branch Office, and Zhong Weidong, Southern Regional Manager of 
Microsoft's branch company in Guangzhou - were bullish on the 
company's overall development and future plans, but more tentative 
about prospects for protecting Microsoft's intellectual property 
rights (IPR) in southern China. South China accounts for about 30% 
of the Microsoft's overall revenues countrywide, of which half comes 
from Shenzhen.  Some of Microsoft's businesses, such as its 
enterprise partnership group, have grown by 200 times since the 
establishment of the Shenzhen branch office in 2005.  Ni and Zhong 
believe Microsoft's sales in South China will exceed that of Hong 
Kong next year, while sales volumes in East China have already 
surpassed those of Hong Kong and are expected to exceed those of 
Taiwan next year.  The Greater China market (mainland China, Hong 
Kong, and Taiwan) is so important to Microsoft that it is one of the 
company's seven key subsidiaries in the world that reports directly 
Microsoft's headquarters in Seattle. 
 
3. (U) Microsoft's clients in Shenzhen include China's giant 
telecommunication groups of Huawei Technologies and ZTE (Zhong Xin) 
as well as local governments.  Microsoft established its branch 
office in Shenzhen to provide a quicker response to local clients, 
to save operation costs and to better compete with other software 
companies, such as Oracle, which came much earlier than Microsoft to 
Shenzhen.  Currently Microsoft has three sites in Shenzhen, dealing 
with sales, technical support, research and development and 
training. 
 
4. (U) According to Ni and Zhong, Microsoft is building close 
relationships with the local government in Shenzhen.  To demonstrate 
its long-term commitment to Shenzhen, Microsoft plans to upgrade the 
branch office into a branch company, which would then pay tax 
locally instead of to the main office in Beijing, to make more 
investments, and to merge its three scattered office sites into one 
in Shenzhen.  Following a nationwide "cooperation" model with local 
governments, Microsoft is partnering with a local company designated 
by Shenzhen Government to set up a cooperation program called "MSTC" 
(Microsoft Training Center) which helps local governments by 
providing technical support, training, and solutions to e-government 
projects; this also ensures the use of legal software.  In the 
Guangzhou consular district, Microsoft has opened one MSTC in 
Xiamen, Fujian Province, is planning to open one in Hainan next 
month, and has plans to open a center in Guangxi. 
 
Weak IPR enforcement remains a big challenge 
-------------------------------------------- 
 
5. (SBU) Ni and Zhong commented that while local governments have 
been making progress in IPR protection, copyright protection for 
software was a low priority for local officials, particularly in 
Guangzhou.  Zhong said local Copyright Bureau officials focused 
mainly on developing the local cultural industry, including 
publishing and audio and video products.  Local government agencies 
have made little effort to enforce the rights of stakeholders in the 
software industry (both domestic and foreign), despite Microsoft's 
lobbying efforts during the past several years.  According to Zhong, 
the main reason behind the relative absence of copyright enforcement 
was that software industry contributes a very small portion of local 
GDP, the majority of which relies on manufacturing.  They also 
thought that officials might be concerned about the impact of 
rigorous enforcement on the local business environment since many 
manufacturers use pirated software.  Local officials often do not 
attend copyright protection seminars or events that industry 
chambers such as the Business Software Association (BSA) or Chinese 
Software Association (CSA) organize.  Both Zhong and Ni said that 
the lack of interest in protecting software copyright puts Guangdong 
at a disadvantage when competing with Shanghai; in addition, lack of 
 
GUANGZHOU 00030810  002 OF 002 
 
 
protection will not help upgrade Guangdong upgrade knowledge-based 
industries. 
 
6. (SBU) Zhong, who had previously worked in Microsoft's branches in 
Southwest China for three years, pointed out that officials in those 
areas were more cooperative than Guangdong.  Microsoft was 
successful in getting enforcement action in Southwest China by 
adopting a "top-down" strategy to build relations with local 
provincial and municipal leaders and thus encourage them to order 
local enforcement agencies to take more action.  A similar strategy 
in South China had not been as successful, though Ni acknowledged 
this effort was new.  In Guangxi, Microsoft got a commitment from 
the local Copyright Bureau to take two enforcement cases, starting 
in October.  Zhong commented that most enforcement agencies just 
want a few "showcase" actions they can point to and then do nothing 
further.  Microsoft's goal is to have local agencies do a minimum of 
two-or-three enforcement showcases to achieve successes and hope 
this will encourage them to do more.  At the same time, the company 
also realizes that it is impossible for local government to do too 
many cases, given their limited resources. 
 
7. (SBU) Zhong asked the Consul General to urge local government 
leaders in Guangdong to be more cooperative in copyright 
cooperation, since they found "Top-down" strategy is very helpful in 
other areas where they also first encounter officials unwilling to 
cooperate. 
 
Comment 
------- 
 
8.  (SBU) Microsoft's experience in South China highlights regional 
differences in China's IPR enforcement.  Enforcement is often 
subject to local protectionism.  Local officials often believe that 
enforcement conflicts with the need to develop the economy in order 
for them to get promoted.  Until they can be persuaded that 
enforcement actually helps development the economy, we will continue 
to have problems such as those described above. 
 
GOLDBERG 


We sure hope that Goldberg understands why Microsoft’s behaviour is wrong. It knowingly turns a blind eye to counterfeiting when it suits it, later calling everyone a “pirate” and demanding payments or jail time. Microsoft makes entire nations look bad, collectively criminalising its own clients.

Professor Michael Risch Studies Patent Trolls, Google to Suffer From Microsoft’s Trolls

Posted in Google, Microsoft, Patents at 5:40 pm by Dr. Roy Schestowitz

Michael Risch

Summary: A scholarly study claims to have investigated the industry of patent trolls and Google (Android) remains vulnerable to them, despite buying a massive heap of patents

WE HAVE just found this paper which Slashdot helps promote with a link to a discussion. It is an academic study that the author himself promotes in a patent lawyers’ site. Quoting Slashdot:

“In a guest post on the Patently-O blog, Villanova University professor Michael Risch summarizes his detailed study into the methods and efficacy of patent trolls. He writes, ‘It turns out that most of what I thought about trolls — good or bad — was wrong…. Perhaps the biggest surprise in the study was the provenance of patents. I thought most patents came from failed startups. While such patents were represented (about 14% of initial assignees were defunct), most came from companies still in business in 2010. Indeed, more than a third of the initial assignees were publicly traded, a subsidiary of a public company, or venture capital recipients. Only 21% were patent assertion entities at the time the patent issued, and many of those were inventor owned companies (like Katz) rather than acquisition entities (like Acacia). … Another area of surprise was patent quality. While trolls almost never won their cases if they went to judgment (only three cases led to an infringement finding on the merits), the percentage of patents invalidated on the merits was lower than I expected.’”

Quoting the author:

Few players in the patent system (maybe none) are more hated than patent trolls. There is a lot of debate about what it means to be a patent troll, but the commonly accepted definition is a plaintiff that asserts patents (usually acquired ones) but makes no product. More accurate terms are non-practicing entities (NPEs) or patent assertion entities (PAEs), but I’ll keep using trolls here if only to be mainstream.

Commentators (including me) have intuitions about the types of patents that trolls assert; the media is filled with claims. The problem with these intuitions is that they are all anecdotal – we think we know what we know from the limited reporting we see about cases that hit the news. But trolls have been around for a long time (two of the entities I studied brought their first suit in 1986) and they file a lot of lawsuits.

Microsoft is going to use patent trolls against Google, in order to get around Google’s new patents shield. It has become apparent now that MOSAID steps up and makes appalling statements while Microsoft confirms its role. We are still observing patent sales everywhere (patents of failed companies), including one of Google’s. “The Googorola dilemma” calls it this new article which explains:

The marriage of Google and Motorola Mobility raises a number of intriguing possibilities, writes Kate Bulkley.

Several years ago the verb ‘to Google’ entered the dictionary. It meant finding something online, generally by using the world’s most popular search engine site. But the recent US$12.5 billion (€8.7 billion) acquisition by Google from Motorola Mobility, which includes the mobile phone handset and set-top box making businesses as well as 17,000 patents, means that for the pay TV industry, and the technology business in general, the term Googling could be taking on a much bigger definition.

Google is wasting its money on patents it does not need for traditional purposes. Instead of validating this system, it ought to have used it to fund groups that abolish patents.

End Software Patents

Australians Asked for Opinion on Software Patents in New Review

Posted in Australia, Patents at 5:37 pm by Dr. Roy Schestowitz

Australian flag

Summary: Public feedback required regarding the most important question (in our view)

TECHRIGHTS spent a lot of effort covering the subject of software patents in New Zealand and little attention was paid to what was going on in Australia. Now there’s a chance for Australians to say that — since they are not patent lawyers — they are against software patents. The question about this is asked specifically:

Should innovation patents be unavailable for computer software?

Australians who say “no” are most likely high-level executives in some very large company or some of their patent lawyers/lobbyists. Policy should stick to public interest, not special interest. The latter is better funded.

OpenSUSE Drops Java But Not Mono

Posted in GNU/Linux, Java, Microsoft, Mono, Novell, OpenSUSE at 5:13 pm by Dr. Roy Schestowitz

Microsoft SUSE

Summary: Microsoft Linux (sometimes known as SUSE) still plays into the hands of Microsoft Corporation

OpenSUSE (the community/volunteer facet of SUSE) indirectly signed a deal with Microsoft and a sort of pact with Xamarin just over a month ago. Another release of OpenSUSE seems to be on its way (hardly any news from the project except for that) and despite the fact that Mono is a patent liability, OpenSUSE 12.1 removes Sun/Oracle Java but not Mono. This is consistent with everything we expect from a Microsoft-sponsored distribution and all the Novell videos in the world (here are some of the latest one [1, 2, 3] cannot hide the company’s close ties to Microsoft. In anything, those videos only validate Novell’s dependence on Windows and on Microsoft.

Wikileaks and Other Leakers Help Expose Microsoft Corruption, Cause Officials to Backtrack

Posted in Asia, Europe, Microsoft at 5:04 pm by Dr. Roy Schestowitz

Ballpoint pen leaks

Summary: Encouraging developments in Tamil Nadu, Switzerland, and other victims of Microsoft meddling with corruptible officials

TRANSPARENCY to Microsoft is like sunlight to a vampire. Over the past few days Microsoft has had to deal with countless PR blunders, mostly those caused by Cablegate (Microsoft is already well-connected to saboteurs who harmed Wikileaks). There is a lot more of that to come and we intend to play a role in Cablegate organisation. The good news is that bad policies can be reversed by shedding light on the corrupt people involved. It actually does work. It’s not negativism when one exposes misconduct. It’s not bashing, either.

Last week we had received an exclusive story from an informant who also informed Muktware of something rogue in Tamil Nadu. He also leaked to us the supporting documents. Watch what has happened as a result of all this coverage: a national and international outcry, then damage control from the officials involved. Muktware has some good news now. “Tamil Nadu Government To Put Linux On Free Laptops” says the headline and the rest is reassuring too. Quoting some context/background: “Microsoft’s Windows was selected as the default operating system for the laptops, cutting out Linux and Open Source vendors from participating in the tender.”

Another similar/related story comes from the Swiss government, which “unblocks open source court software release” according to The H (it came to realise that Free software must be embraced to avoid a fiasco). Quoting the article:

The committee that controls the Swiss Federal court has moved to allow the publication of OpenJustitia as open source. The release of the software had been blocked in July as proprietary companies claimed the release of the document management system (DMS) for courts under a GPLv3 licence would amount to the state interfering in the software market by cross-subsidisation.

An OSOR.eu report says that the control committee sent the Federal Court questions about the DMS system to establish the legal basis for the development of the software. The court responded in August saying it was not entering into competition. Because the cost of the development, which began in 2007, has already been written off and anyone wanting to modify the software would have to bear the costs of those modifications themselves, the court said that it considered there was no cross-subsidisation.

Previously, there was a corrupt tendering process in Switzerland — one that we covered in:

  1. Microsoft Sued Over Its Corruption in Switzerland, Microsoft Debt Revisited
  2. Can the United Kingdom and Hungary Still be Sued for Excluding Free Software?
  3. 3 New Counts of Antitrust Violation by Microsoft?
  4. Is Microsoft Breaking the Law in Switzerland Too?
  5. Microsoft Uses Lobbyists to Attack Holland’s Migration to Free Software and Sort of Bribes South African Teachers Who Use Windows
  6. ZDNet/eWeek Ruins Peter Judge’s Good Article by Attacking Red Hat When Microsoft Does the Crime
  7. Week of Microsoft Government Affairs: a Look Back, a Look Ahead
  8. Lawsuit Against Microsoft/Switzerland Succeeds So Far, More Countries/Companies Should Follow Suit
  9. Latest Reports on Microsoft Bulk Deals Being Blocked in Switzerland, New Zealand
  10. Swiss Government and Federal Computer Weekly: Why the Hostility Towards Free Software?
  11. Switzerland and the UK Under Fire for Perpetual Microsoft Engagements
  12. Lawsuit Over Alleged Microsoft Corruption in Switzerland Escalates to Federal Court
  13. When Microsoft-Only/Lock-in is Defined as “Technology”
  14. Microsoft’s Allegedly Illegal Swiss Contracts to Take People to Court Again
  15. Microsoft’s Allegedly Illegal US Procurement Gets Frozen After Lawsuit

The Swiss government gradually realises that even lawsuits will be filed against it if it misuses public funds by handing them over to Microsoft without even tendering. A lawsuit helped expose what was happening and it did not look good. The same goes for our early posts about Tunisia, which received a lot of attention and later resulted in a lot of coverage, including some from Salon and TechEye, which says:

Whistle-blowing site Wikileaks has is “currently under heavy attack” in the aftermath of the latest release of cables.

The infamous site recently released a new batch of documents, and Microsoft is one of the latest to find itself in hot water – as its role working with the repressive Tunisian government comes to light.

According to ZDNet UK, a cable was sent by the US embassy in September 2006 highlighting how Microsoft had been cosying up to the authoritarian regime of President Zine El-Abidine Ben Ali.

It appears that, in its desperation to stop Tunisian authorities using open source in place of its own Windows products, Microsoft set up a program on cyber criminality to cover training, as well as handing over the source code for Windows.

While Microsoft is not the only firm caught misbehaving with foreign governments, with others lending support to the Libyan regime, the support of the Tunisian authorities prior to the uprising which kicked off the Arab Spring is serious stuff.

Watch what Microsoft is doing in some other countries though. Tunisia is hardly the exception and in days/weeks to come we’ll show some similar stories, having just explained [crfe 52994 how Windows cracks will help Iran prosecute and probably execute opposition]. Proprietary software aids tyranny. They both work along similar lines. They both rely on corruption and betrayal of basic public rights.

“Microsoft Will Have Blood on Its Hands.”

Posted in Microsoft, Security, Windows at 4:20 pm by Dr. Roy Schestowitz

Fertilizer

Summary: In the midst of Wikileaks drama we learn that an executions-savvy regime will benefit from Windows cracks

“Windooze insecurity puts Iranian dissidents in mortal danger,” states the subject line of an anonymous USENET post, quoting this article. “A Dutch CA called DigiNotar,” says the poster, “was hacked by Iranian hackers, likely with the intention of intercepting SSL traffic (Gmail, Facebook etc.) of Iranian activists and freedom fighters. I checked DigiNotar’s website and guess what operating system they’re using? You guessed it! WINDOOZE ASP.NET!!!

“So now Microsoft will have blood on its hands. Its insecure graphical-shell-pretending-to-be-an-operating-system is now possibly responsible for the deaths and prosecution of many Iranians!! [..] THIS COMPANY SHOULDN’T BE SPLIT UP, IT SHOULD BE SHUT DOWN”

“And as long as otherwise respectable companies insist on e-mailing me “slide shows” in the form of IrfanView .exe files because “it’s so user-friendly”, Windows will remain as secure as a wet paper bag.”
      –Richard Rasker
A more moderate Dutch poster, Richard Rasker, wrote separately: “I guess we’ve all heard how a Dutch Certificate Authority by the name of Diginotar, formerly used by even the Dutch IRS authority and countless city councils, has screwed up severely, when their systems were breached by Iranian hackers, who managed to poison the world with many hundreds of bogus certificates. Then they screwed up even more by hushing up about the hack for months — a huge no-no in a world where trust is the highest good.

“And now it turns out that the screw-up has soared to even greater heights. In case you wondered what OS these people were using, here’s the answer:

http://webwereld.nl/nieuws/107833/fox-it–diginotar-gebruikte-niet-eens-virusscanner.html

“For those who don’t understand Dutch:

“Fox-IT: Diginotar didn’t even use a virusscaner

Fox IT has delivered a devastating verdict on Diginotar’s infrastructure. The company didn’t adhere to agreements and procedures. Even elementary security measures were totally absent.

These are the conclusions from an investigation by Fox IT into the security breach at Diginotar, as passed by Webwereld and NU.nl through a governmental source. It turns out that all operations were taking place from within one single Windows domain. This made it possible to gain access to the certificate administration from any work station; logging in to one’s work station was sufficient to get access to the systems. This is a mortal sin in the world of IT security. In addition, Diginotar was already aware of the abuse of its certificates as early as July.

No secure zones
Even when issuing certificates for government use, standard security rules were trodden underfoot. The government’s PKI computers operate from within a secure vault, and should never have been connected to Diginotar’s network. Yet even on those machines, investigators found evidence that connections had been made to the Windows domain.

…” [no virus scanner ... no proper logging ... no strong password enforcement ... inadequate intrusion detection ... hackers got & used administrator rights ... certificates chucked in an easily accessible database ... etcetera]

“Now I won’t say that this could never have happened in a Linux environment,” notes Rasker, “but for a screw-up of these truly epic proportions, Windows is the OS of choice — because it traditionally “makes things easy”, and because Windows users are traditionally not used to working with proper permissions, secure networks and strong passwords.

“And as long as otherwise respectable companies insist on e-mailing me “slide shows” in the form of IrfanView .exe files because “it’s so user-friendly”, Windows will remain as secure as a wet paper bag. QED.”

Mono for Android is Proprietary, Even Tomdroid Dodges It

Posted in GNU/Linux, Google, Microsoft, Mono at 4:02 pm by Dr. Roy Schestowitz

Mono with teeth

Summary: Xamarin introduces “Enterprise products” (proprietary) that put Microsoft code inside Android and even Tomdroid does not depend on it

Earlier this year we were made aware of Tomdroid, which is a GPLv3-licensed complement (not derivative or fork) of the Mono-based Tomboy. Well, Xamarin is selling Mono for Android like it’s a proprietary software product (which it is, as Microsoft MVP de Icaza calls it Open Core), so it’s not hard to see why Tomdroid avoids it.

“It would be nice if there was a project of this kind that’s based on Gnote.”According to The H, “Tomdroid lead developer Olivier Bilodeau has released version 0.5.0 of his open source Tomboy client for note-taking. Tomdroid allows users running Google’s Android mobile operating system to synchronise notes from the Tomboy desktop application to their devices for viewing; the client is currently read-only.” Will it be Gnote-compatible? Or will it — just like Ubuntu One — be very silly? Google limits development possibilities on Android. It would be nice if there was a project of this kind that’s based on Gnote. However Bilodeau says that “gnote has the right to exist and succeed but I also agree with sandy’s arguments when he’s saying its counter-productive.” How about Ubuntu’s replacement of GIMP in favour of Mono-based software that still receives a little attention (even though it has been dropped from Ubuntu's default)? Do users ever need Mono? It’s not only very bloated but it’s also a patent risk.

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