08.23.20

Leak: An Unreported Rift Inside The Document Foundation (TDF)

Posted in Europe, Free/Libre Software, Office Suites, OpenDocument, OpenOffice at 10:39 am by Dr. Roy Schestowitz

LibreItalia tweet

Summary: The Document Foundation (TDF) is a very important supporter of OpenDocument Format (ODF) as well as Free software (notably LibreOffice), but there’s a story about LibreItalia (“Italian home of LibreOffice”) very few people know about

Italo Vignoli is well known in the Free software world, both inside and outside Italy, both inside and outside the realms of LibreOffice. He’s connected to the likes of Simon Phipps and Paolo Vecchi. I, personally, have much respect for him. For those who never heard of him before, his introduction to himself in the OSI’s site (for this year’s election) can be found here (it’s very detailed and includes his LibreOffice/ODF/TDF work/credentials). There’s more in the comments.

He won a seat as a Director seated by affiliates (term until 2023) and the Board’s page now describes him as follows: “Italo Vignoli has been involved in FOSS projects since 2004, when he joined the OpenOffice community as a user, to contribute to marketing and communication activities. In 2010, he was one of the founders of the LibreOffice project and has been involved in marketing and community development activities since then. He has also launched Associazione LibreItalia, representing LibreOffice users in Italy, and the ODF Advocacy Open Project at OASIS, and has contributed to large migration projects to LibreOffice in Europe. He co-leads LibreOffice marketing, PR and media relations, co-chairs the certification program, and is a spokesman for the project. He has contributed to large migration projects to LibreOffice in Italy, and is a LibreOffice certified migrator and trainer. Italo is Managing Partner of Hideas, a marketing and communications agency retained by The Document Foundation and by other companies active in the networking and healthcare industries.”

A few years ago he had an altercation inside LibreItalia, the “Italian home of LibreOffice” (@libreitalia). It was more specifically an argument with Sonia Montegiove, President of the LibreItalia association who calls herself a “journalist out of passion”; there are reasonable posts from her (in English) and in Italian. Vignoli and her weren’t always in disagreement; she wrote about him half a decade prior on at least 4 occasions in the LibreItalia blog. The blog became inactive the following year or maybe moved elsewhere. They’re both mentioned in “Italy’s Ministry of Defense to Drop Microsoft Office in Favor of LibreOffice”.

The following message was written by Alessandro Rubini, aged 70 (half a decade older than Vignoli). He’s a very, very technical person (books include Linux Device Drivers and others) and he says “Free Software” rather than “Open Source”. This one particular bio of his says he “installed Linux 0.99.14 soon after getting his degree as electronic engineer. He then received a Ph.D. in computer science at the University of Pavia despite his aversion toward modern technology. He left the University after getting his Ph.D. because he didn’t want to write articles. He now works as a free lance writing device drivers and, um…articles. He used to be a young hacker before his babies were born; he’s now an old advocate of Free Software who developed a bias for non-PC computer platforms.”

He has associates like Cristiana Larizza, Tullio Facchinetti, Greg Kroah-Hartman amongst other drivers folks and his homepage mentions GNU, then says: “I am an independent consultant specialized in the Linux kernel, device drivers, real time, embedded systems, low-level networking.”

How many people are aware of the following incident?

Subject: problem in TDF
From: Alessandro Rubini <rubini@gnudd.com>
Date: 20/08/2017, 13:07
To: ga@fsfeurope.org

A quick note to let youknow that italo vignoli left libreitalia, after serious arguing w/ sonia montegiove about management in general and organization of the LO conference in particular.

The thing escalated from italy to TDF, where another italian board member is siding w/ sonia and trying to shed bad light on italo.

I talked with both, in different days, and I still have to make completely up my mind. One of the side effects is that italo will likely ask for membership in fsfe.

I’m all for it, actually i suggested to invite both him and sonia. Now clearly the thing is a little hot, and timing is suboptimal.

I’ll call again sonia in a few days, after italo’s final move is official, w/ reference to official documents.

All of this is very bad, pr-wise, for FS in italy and europe.

/alessandro on the train, no keyboard

Publishing this isn’t expected to cause a rift (which didn’t exist already). Italy has long been a success story for ODF (especially in the public sector), so let’s hope relations can be amended.

The Hand Inside the Blender: Microsoft Money for Blender’s Development Fund is Not a ‘Cookie Jar’ Donation But Another Power Move

Posted in Deception, Free/Libre Software, Microsoft at 10:09 am by Dr. Roy Schestowitz

Masks four matrix: YOU will be assimilated

Summary: Microsoft keeps paying, conditionally, a bunch of high-profile Free software projects; there’s expectation they will reciprocate one way or another, shows recent history

THE Blender project is a fantastic project. It’s a Free software success story. I love Blender and I love movies made with Blender. I fell in love with the project well over a decade ago. I’ve watched their movies more times than I can remember (probably about 20 times in total). Blender’s ‘daddy’ Ton Roosendaal (@tonroosendaal) wrote this when Microsoft announced the takeover of GitHub: “Why was Blender not on @github? Simple: Github already accepted $350M (at least) from venture capitalists – who want it back with huge profits. And whatever Microsoft pays for it, they will want it back too. Who pays in the end? The users. FYI: Blender has its code on http://git.blender.org and developer services on http://developer.blender.org – we already host our own services since 2002. About “users paying”: I don’t mean the freemium model. I believe that in due time @github services slowly degrade to losing control and ownership of your work.”

“We’re not saying there’s such an expectation wrt GitHub, but as we saw in Godot Engine there tends to be an expectation that C# and .NET will be boosted in GitHub (and that’s an explicit goal of the money).”Blender is not invulnerable to bribes though, e.g. through Blender’s Development Fund. Last month it was Microsoft (they buy influence over the project this way) and now it’s Mono pushers (Unity). What next? Will demands be made? What strings are being attached to this month’s payment? We’re not saying there’s such an expectation wrt GitHub, but as we saw in Godot Engine there tends to be an expectation that C# and .NET will be boosted in GitHub (and that’s an explicit goal of the money). These aren’t donations; Microsoft’s shareholders aren’t donating money, as they clearly want something in return. We previously wrote about how Microsoft was bribing projects (“helping” them) to defect to GitHub, entrapping their developers and users in Microsoft territories with Microsoft accounts.

“It’s not a donation; it’s more like an investment in the VC sense. It’s about control.”Yesterday in IRC we researched the state of Blender wrt GitHub and we reached out by E-mail to another person who had “checked Blender several times in the past.” (For this purpose)

“I believe it was always a mirror,” he told us. “Any project can mirror free software. it’s a non-issue. nothing that can be done but to make the software less free.”

We’re going to keep our eyes on Blender and see what Microsoft (and its Mono pushers) want in return from Blender. It’s not a donation; it’s more like an investment in the VC sense. It’s about control.

IRC Proceedings: Saturday, August 22, 2020

Posted in IRC Logs at 2:36 am by Needs Sunlight

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Leak: Richard Stallman (RMS) Was Betrayed by Matthias Kirschner’s FSFE, Which Closely Connected With People Who Attack Stallman

Posted in Deception, Free/Libre Software, FSF, GNU/Linux, Microsoft at 1:39 am by Dr. Roy Schestowitz

Even before Matthias Kirschner’s FSFE took money from Microsoft (as did the Software Freedom Conservancy)

Masked Killers: Software Freedom Conservancy, Copyleft Conf, OSI and FSFE

Summary: Backstabbers and turncoats have worked together to weaken the FSF and to dilute/override/rewrite the message of Free software; it mostly boils down to money and status

Further to the previous leak, we now have another about “joint OSI/FSF/SFC membership”; SFC is of course the Software Freedom Conservancy, which moved to ‘oust’ RMS both from within the FSF (Board) and outside it (the SFC’s Web site). As we noted only two days ago, Deb from SFC is now moving to become (interim) General Manager of OSI; she took Microsoft money while she was in charge of Copyleft Conf, both in 2019 and in 2020 (shortly before and also some time after receiving an award from FSF (RMS, personally)). What a way to reciprocate, eh?

The source of this leak described this as: “An insight into the continuous posturing between free software organizations trying to make themselves look important…”

“An insight into the continuous posturing between free software organizations trying to make themselves look important…”
      –Anonymous
The source moreover joked: “Has Techrights ever thought about setting up an affiliate or associate network? Maybe you could stop blogging and just do full time posturing like this…”

Here it is, dated a month before the FSF moved to pressure (again) FSFE to quit misleading people with the "FSF" brand:

Subject: Re: OSI / Affiliate + Associate
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2017 15:27:34 +0000
From: Matthias Kirschner <mk@fsfe.org>
To: team@lists.fsfe.org

Dear Erik,

* Erik Albers [2017-02-21 11:20 +0100]:

On 20.02.2017 16:27, Matthias Kirschner wrote:

* Jan-Christoph Borchardt <hey at jancborchardt dot net> [2017-02-02 18:00:00 +0100]:

Also, I just recently heard about this associate program and I’m very happy that this is pushed again. We also thought about becoming OSI affiliate since some time, and I suppose it’s quite a similar thing?

Yes, I see it not that much different from their program: https://opensource.org/affiliates/about

as they already have a much longer list than FSFE has and seem to grow it since 2012, I think it would be interesting to ask them about their experience with it, the benefit or downsides or if they are using it all and these things?

and here the answer to your question: it seems they have contacted them once at the beginning, asking them to become affiliated organisations. After that according to Simon Phipps there was almost nothing they did with them. They “forgot about them”.

From the process:

* They approached almost all the big organisations themselves. For those they added a questions, if they would support them with a one-time donation in case OSI ever has a problem; which most of them answered with yes.
* Afterwards new organisations applied. * As there were many LUGs they at one point just added a separate category in their affiliates for user groups.

With some of those organisations they now want to do “joint memberships” and offer those at some conferences. The first one will be a joint OSI/FSF/SFC membership. Simon asked if we would be interested in something like that for European events. I said that this generated more problems as it would solve, and said that we would first like to see how it goes with their experiment.

Btw. Simon said he could see OSI to become an associated organisation of the FSFE if we become an affiliated organisation.

Best Regards,
Matthias


Matthias Kirschner – President – Free Software Foundation Europe
Schönhauser Allee 6/7, 10119 Berlin, Germany | t +49-30-27595290
Registered at Amtsgericht Hamburg, VR 17030 | (fsfe.org/join)
Contact (fsfe.org/about/kirschner) – Weblog (k7r.eu/blog.html)
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We’ve spoken amongst ourselves about the meaning of the above message. Ryan said: “The FSFE pushing Open Source is a direct contradiction of what Stallman wanted to do with the FSF, which he had stated on many occasions. He said things like some people call him the “father of open source” and he wished they would stop because it meant a lesser standard of freedom for the users, and he joked that if he was the father of open source, they “used stolen semen”.

“The FSFE pushing Open Source is a direct contradiction of what Stallman wanted to do with the FSF, which he had stated on many occasions.”
      –Ryan
“So the FSFE is not using the FSF definition of Free Software and need to quit calling themselves a Free Software organization, per the agreement, or stop trying to label open source as the “exact same thing”. Because it isn’t. It’s freedom with generational loss. It only guarantees that the the first people in line who get a copy have the right to use it however they want.

“The first time someone redistributes a modified version, they can take away some or all of the freedoms that they got from it, or use it to impose DRM. The GPLv3 has anti-DRM provisions that allow users to break DRM that it has been used to implement by making the distributor admit that they don’t declare it to be a “technical protection measure” as defined by law. (Like the DMCA.)

“Apple absolutely will not abide by that. They love DRM because they’re buddy-buddy with Hollywood and the RIAA, and it traps people on Apple computing platforms. Open source is mute on the topic of DRM because they don’t care if their software is used to create it or not.”

Leak: FSFE and OSI Coordinate Rubbing Off Free Software by Saying “Open Source” is the Same (It’s Not, Same False Argument From 20 Years Earlier)

Posted in Deception, Europe, Free/Libre Software, FSF, OSI at 12:52 am by Dr. Roy Schestowitz

Many men in table football

Summary: Three years ago the 20-year anniversary of an attack on Free software (which an OSI founder and high-profile boosters said was a plan to dethrone Richard Stallman) was secretly exploited by the FSFE in coordination with OSI leadership

TODAY we present an E-mail which exposes coordination between OSI/”Open Source” (and OSI President Simon Phipps) and the FSFE, undoing much of the work of the FSF while painting the FSF as unreasonable or even radical. We let the readers decide for themselves, but we’re adding some thoughts of members of ours, who saw the E-mail prior to this publication.

This happened months after the trademark dispute (FSF demanding that FSFE stops misusing the "FSF" name). “For most practical purposes,” Ryan explains, “Free and Open Source mean the same thing, but Open Source doesn’t emphasize in making sure it stays available under the same terms. So any changes made under a proprietary license are simply useless to everyone else and lost forever if it gets discontinued. It can also be turned against the user in all sorts of horrible and twisted ways, like Apple did to create macOS and iOS.”

“…call it Hegelian brainwashing, or hermetic mergers for purposes of deception, not limited to software licenses…”
      –Anonymous
“The FSF used to say if it’s trivial,” Ryan continues, “as in <150 lines of code, or implements something that is an open specification that we’re trying to encourage adoption of, or there’s already lots of proprietary implementations out there, sometimes a more permissive license does more good than harm.”

Matthias Kirschner, who recently accepted money from Microsoft, sent the following message, alluding to the OSI’s President at the time (Simon Phipps), showing how they coordinated statements on “Free Software and Open Source Software” (if they mean it, FSFE should just rename/rebrand as OSIE, or maybe replace the O with an M now that it’s partly Microsoft funded… to became MSIE). Here’s the E-mail in question, citing a blog post from Phipps, published 5 days after the FSF had sent a message concerning the FSFE’s violation of the 2005 agreement:

Subject: Joint Statement about “Free Software and Open Source Software”
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 15:55:17 +0100
From: Matthias Kirschner <mk@fsfe.org>
To: team@lists.fsfe.org

Hello all,

after a discussion on the legal network mailing list, which resulted in my blog post http://k7r.eu/2-percent-discussion-free-software-or-open-source-software/ and then in longer discussions on https://lists.fsfe.org/pipermail/discussion/2017-November/011994.html and individual follow-up, Simon Phipps and I had the idea to use the upcmming 20th anniversary of the term “Open Source” on 9 February 2018 for a joint statement.

We would clarify for newcomers that it is the same software. Encourage everybody to work with others although they might use another terminology. Show them that even organisations which use different terms can work together. Simon is positive that he gets support by others in OSI about that, and I thought that we will also agree on this, as it it will be mainly a repetition of our official statement: https://fsfe.org/freesoftware/basics/comparison.en.html (we might add some arguments from my blog post above + parts of Simon’s articles:

https://webmink.com/essays/causality/

https://meshedinsights.com/2017/06/07/free-vs-open/ ).

I would continue to discuss that idea with Simon Phipps so we could get such a statement ready in time, and get other organisations on board, too. I’ll share any text drafts here before.

Best Regards,
Matthias


Matthias Kirschner – President – Free Software Foundation Europe
Schönhauser Allee 6/7, 10119 Berlin, Germany | t +49-30-27595290
Registered at Amtsgericht Hamburg, VR 17030 | (fsfe.org/join)
Contact (fsfe.org/about/kirschner) – Weblog (k7r.eu/blog.html)
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Team@lists.fsfe.org

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The better informed Free software proponents will immediately understand what’s going on here. They are, in effect, doing exactly the opposite of what the FSF would do. Under the guise of ‘peace’ of whatnot they sort of bury the original brand. No wonder not too long after that an FSF Board member (Ben) said that they need to further distance themselves from this “Open Source” lunacy, which was already opening up to proprietary software giants, including Microsoft.

As one person has just put it in IRC, “they do seem purposely trying to muddy the waters… call it Hegelian brainwashing, or hermetic mergers for purposes of deception, not limited to software licenses… I think it’s used for many many many things…”

“Permissive licenses harm the Free Software Movement in general…”
      –Ryan
“Show them that even organisations which use different terms can work together” is the part he was alluding to. They’re basically trying to paint the FSF as irrational, hostile zealots. When it is in fact the FSF that’s under attack, along with the term Free (as in freedom) software. The person argues that “his [Kirschner's] “different terms” strikes me as disingenuous, i.e. trying to convince people [that] different terms are actually the same… people might think I’m too harsh, but to me, there’s no other word except attempted brainwashing, also known as EEE of course…”

The merger is even broader than the above, as we shall show in a separate leak.

“Permissive licenses harm the Free Software Movement in general,” Ryan notes, “although sometimes that harm is outweighed by the benefit of solving a bigger problem. If Microsoft swallows FLAC and Opus and AV1, more people will use it. That helps us if they grab it and use it. In general, just giving them software to pick over that would make Windows or Office or Azure work better sets us back.”

“…whether you are pro or against something, when the waters are muddied it’s difficult to even have a conversation… after things get warped.”
      –Anonymous
The move was explained as follows in IRC: “embrace a word, extend its meaning to what you want it to mean, extinguish the original definition, destroy by “merging” with something of [a] different meaning [...] it annoys me to no end, because whether you are pro or against something, when the waters are muddied it’s difficult to even have a conversation… after things get warped. If successful, it means future people are both just attacking or praising straw men basically [and] it destroys any possible debate…”

Not only the OSI and the FSFE ‘colluded’ in this agenda, as future leaks will show. That helps explain why particular statements were made one year ago when media shifted attention from a Gates/Epstein MIT scandal to a bogus RMS/MIT scandal (over a misquoted/misinterpreted E-mail).

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