●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, January 01, 2023 ●● ● Jan 01 [01:28] *Mio14 (~quassel@freenode-7mg.ig8.4rn701.IP) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jan 01 [03:58] techrightssec2 ack [03:58] techrightssec2 s/sent before we left/sent to the CEO before we left/ ?? [03:58] techrightssec2 s/financialfilings/financial filings/ [03:58] techrightssec2 s/conniving or/conniving and/ [03:58] schestowitz-TR my experience these past months, and prior to that, may help me write about tech RIGHTS from [03:59] schestowitz-TR an angle not limited to FS [03:59] schestowitz-TR addign draft [03:59] schestowitz-TR I think we cover some unique scenarios in the series [03:59] schestowitz-TR not issues I saw covered before in blogs [03:59] schestowitz-TR i.e. "grey" area [03:59] techrightssec2 If there is a point in mentioning the EFF, then a sentence should be added as [03:59] techrightssec2 to why it is being named. ● Jan 01 [04:02] schestowitz-TR adding eff [04:02] schestowitz-TR edited the typos, suggestions etc. [04:02] schestowitz-TR yes, enumeration would require careful thinking [04:02] schestowitz-TR maybe for the wiki somewhere [04:02] schestowitz-TR but maybe best to write first, then categorise carefully [04:02] schestowitz-TR epo is impacted by many of the same issues [04:02] schestowitz-TR esp. the home workers [04:03] techrightssec2 The unique issues could be enumerated, perhaps? [04:03] techrightssec2 thanks [04:05] schestowitz-TR fortmulating arguments about new, creeping issues isn't easy, I think [04:05] schestowitz-TR it takes time [04:05] schestowitz-TR like finding some formula [04:05] schestowitz-TR not just teaching it [04:05] schestowitz-TR with FS, we already have gnu/rms/fsf to explain the issues [04:05] schestowitz-TR this is different [04:05] schestowitz-TR farnell is good at explaining academia [04:05] schestowitz-TR he had spent a long time there, media also [04:05] schestowitz-TR Times HE is (self)censoring him [04:11] techrightssec2 How is Times HE suppressing his message? [04:11] schestowitz-TR same way datametion did me [04:11] schestowitz-TR datamation [04:11] schestowitz-TR now it runs enderle pieces [04:15] techrightssec2 (He did have a rather good article there, but I do not know what he originally [04:15] techrightssec2 turned in to them.) [04:15] techrightssec2 Oh. [04:15] techrightssec2 By the way, the US Congress is chasing a red herring in blaming Tiktok for [04:15] techrightssec2 surveillance and not for its psychologically and physically harmful experience [04:15] techrightssec2 targeting youths and kids. Yes, surveillance by ByteDance is a thing but that [04:15] techrightssec2 is only part of what the company is about. It is mainly about influencing [04:15] techrightssec2 behavior. In this case, harming a whole generation and removing it culturally [04:15] techrightssec2 from the cultures it would have otherwise been part of. Both on behalf of CCP [04:16] schestowitz-TR where does their funding come from? ads? [04:16] schestowitz-TR lunduke just did an article about cia funding for tech "companies" [04:16] schestowitz-TR even DB companies [04:21] techrightssec2 Good question. [04:21] schestowitz-TR it is a very dark area, darkened by cranks and straw men [04:24] techrightssec2 Yes, there is a lot of chaff thrown in there to keep focus off of the data or [04:24] techrightssec2 even the very question. That can be an indicator of importance though, in some [04:24] techrightssec2 contexts. ● Jan 01 [05:30] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [05:47] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@vryz9fzjqmc2k.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Jan 01 [06:36] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [06:36] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@auubhxtweg528.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [06:48] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [06:48] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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[09:59] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) ● Jan 01 [10:03] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [10:03] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@auubhxtweg528.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:29] schestowitz-TR I have begun thinking how to classify the issues we deal with [10:29] schestowitz-TR and then cluster or compartmentalise them [10:29] schestowitz-TR so that we're not "all over the place" [10:29] schestowitz-TR at a later point I can rearrange and revisit [10:29] schestowitz-TR epo workers have had similar issues [10:29] schestowitz-TR many parallels [10:33] techrightssec2 ack [10:44] schestowitz-TR tv sucks [10:44] schestowitz-TR but... [10:44] schestowitz-TR after social control media [10:44] schestowitz-TR for official national use [10:44] schestowitz-TR it seems like a lesser evil [10:44] schestowitz-TR it does lie a lot [10:44] schestowitz-TR but there is still some quality control [10:44] schestowitz-TR they must first assess the quality of the lies [10:44] schestowitz-TR sometimes national broadcasters prmote some common cause of national interest [10:44] schestowitz-TR in twitter, ksa et al promote some foreign interests [10:44] schestowitz-TR even if the suffix is localised and the language seems local [10:44] schestowitz-TR and even if everyone spoke freely within a nation [10:44] schestowitz-TR sometimes would manipulate who sees what and when [10:44] schestowitz-TR based on external (to thje tribe) interests [10:44] schestowitz-TR with mastodon, some orgs made their own instance [10:45] schestowitz-TR which they govern [10:45] schestowitz-TR it's a lesser evil but still suffers issues in the context of the complete fediverse [10:45] techrightssec2 Yes, there is still some quality control, but not much especially on the [10:45] techrightssec2 commercial channels it is lacking. [10:45] techrightssec2 Commercial television is basically unregulated lobbying and advocacy against [10:45] techrightssec2 society. [10:47] schestowitz-TR in 2022 gemini did not get polluted by corporations [10:47] schestowitz-TR at least not yet [10:47] schestowitz-TR wait till the microsofters there get "control channels of comms" with some paid [10:47] schestowitz-TR "influencers" to shill vscode, shithub, azure... [10:47] schestowitz-TR like in r-bloggers [10:47] techrightssec2 At least state channels are ostensibly governed by the population. Though [10:47] techrightssec2 several layers of bureacracy might lie in between and impair that. [10:48] schestowitz-TR btw jon udell and some other bloggers in your opml are microsofters or former ones [10:48] schestowitz-TR hence you might get the habitual "how microsoft won back devs" [10:48] schestowitz-TR or "we partner with microsoft" [10:50] techrightssec2 ack [10:50] techrightssec2 I need a way to tag their feeds better. Every once in a while they do cover [10:50] techrightssec2 useful topics but perhaps that should be treated more skeptically if it is only\bait for their m$ talking points. ● Jan 01 [11:04] *DaemonFC has quit (connection closed) [11:44] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [11:45] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:53] schestowitz-TR come to think of it, the term "tech rights" is very handy [11:53] schestowitz-TR it offers lots of leeway in terms of thje scope opf the coverage over timew ● Jan 01 [12:05] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:06] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [12:11] techrightssec2 ack [12:15] schestowitz-TR one old favourite of mine was Oldversions [12:15] schestowitz-TR and its motto, NewerIsNotAlwaysBetter [12:15] schestowitz-TR that was 2 decades ago [12:15] schestowitz-TR very true in the FS world to this date [12:15] schestowitz-TR esp. with "phones", "clown" and other trends brought forth by interests hostile to humans ● Jan 01 [13:43] schestowitz-TR Latest Isnt Always Greatest: Why Product Updates Capture Consumers https://hbswk.hbs.edu/item/latest-isnt-always-greatest-why-products-updates-capture-consumers?cid=wk-rss [13:43] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-hbswk.hbs.edu | Latest Isnt Always Greatest: Why Product Updates Capture Consumers - HBS Working Knowledge [13:48] schestowitz-TR "My interest in understanding incentive structures is a recurring theme here, whether it be digital privacy or software development. 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