●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, April 01, 2022 ●● ● Apr 01 [02:00] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@joseon-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [02:00] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Apr 01 [05:16] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [05:16] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) ● Apr 01 [06:22] *Despatche has quit (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by deer) [06:43] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@joseon-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [06:43] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Apr 01 [07:08] *activelow has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [07:08] *activelow (~activelow@5adyqrxsr3hiq.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Apr 01 [08:08] *activelow has quit (connection closed) [08:08] *activelow (~activelow@6dx8jw7cxv4bq.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [08:11] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [08:45] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [08:45] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [08:58] schestowitz-TR irc logs for the day [08:58] schestowitz-TR are now [08:58] schestowitz-TR posted :-) [08:58] schestowitz-TR thanks!! [08:58] schestowitz-TR been spenfing/wasting a lot of time in IRC this past week ● Apr 01 [09:26] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@joseon-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [09:26] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Apr 01 [10:00] schestowitz-TR I am about to read this text [10:00] schestowitz-TR before I do [10:00] schestowitz-TR I wanted to say [10:00] schestowitz-TR I removed cars, TVs and to some extent phones from my life [10:00] schestowitz-TR the mind can focus better [10:00] schestowitz-TR and also I spoke about electric windows in cars [10:00] schestowitz-TR You would not expect electronic replacements for many [10:00] schestowitz-TR mechanical things that are otherwise easy to repair by [10:00] schestowitz-TR hand inc. bikes [10:00] schestowitz-TR reading now... [10:03] schestowitz-TR OK, so this is more about ISPs than cars [10:03] schestowitz-TR I do need an ISP and they all suck, almost literally\ [10:03] schestowitz-TR so it ends up being a "least evil" choice [10:04] schestowitz-TR the energy providers here are the same [10:04] schestowitz-TR price hikes while profits soar [10:04] schestowitz-TR so I sarted using the electric shaver again [10:04] schestowitz-TR it's from my grnandpa who dies 25 years ago [10:04] schestowitz-TR *died [10:04] schestowitz-TR those don't last that long anymore [10:04] schestowitz-TR I mean the shavers, not the grandpas [10:04] schestowitz-TR though with covid-19, both statements would be true [10:04] schestowitz-TR you can see this week's rants of mine in schestowitz.com [10:04] schestowitz-TR covid is infecting more than 1% of the pop every single week [10:06] schestowitz-TR vis a vis cars, [10:06] schestowitz-TR last night when doing the nend of month tasks (takes about 30 mins) [10:06] schestowitz-TR I watched the talk rms gave in germany in 2019 [10:06] schestowitz-TR he did mention some aspects of modern cars [10:06] schestowitz-TR that I had not thought off [10:06] schestowitz-TR *of [10:06] schestowitz-TR made a joke about KSA/MbS along the way [10:06] schestowitz-TR and how they would use cars [10:06] schestowitz-TR iirc,. uber is largely KSA_funded [10:09] schestowitz-TR the shaver that I use still uses the same blades grandpa weas using in the 90s [10:10] schestowitz-TR they are not the best, but they are good enough [10:10] schestowitz-TR maybe the companies cheapaned the material since then [10:10] schestowitz-TR the lightbulb model [10:12] Techrights-sec Yes, I guessed at the beginning that if 35% become infected and 1% of those die [10:12] Techrights-sec then that is a /lot/ of people. I may have been overly optimistic in both [10:12] Techrights-sec numbers [10:12] Techrights-sec Not a surprise that Uber has such financial backing given how badly it damages [10:12] Techrights-sec society in general and the labor market in particular. [10:12] Techrights-sec The blades wear out regardless of how well they could make them but they [10:12] Techrights-sec don't emphasize quality there since the blades now cost a sizable portion [10:12] Techrights-sec of the cost of a whole new shaver [10:14] schestowitz-TR call me eccentric [10:14] schestowitz-TR but there is sentimental value associated with stuff I got from [10:14] schestowitz-TR grandparents [10:14] schestowitz-TR so there is also a reluctance to 'modernise' those things [10:14] schestowitz-TR not being a museum, but rather preserving what I can [10:14] schestowitz-TR also seeing how utterly shitty the "modern" equivalents tene dto be [10:14] schestowitz-TR esp. in the sense they do not last long [10:18] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [10:18] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [10:22] Techrights-sec "durable" goods aren't any more. They're designed for key, irreplaceable parts [10:22] Techrights-sec to faile within a year of the warranty ending. A lot of work is apparently [10:22] Techrights-sec put into that. There is some potential EU legislation about repair that [10:22] Techrights-sec might cause that to change but odds are that the companies will either lobby [10:22] Techrights-sec their way out of the legislation or else just ignore it [10:22] Techrights-sec There was some investigative reports on that kind of thing going back to the [10:22] Techrights-sec early days of incandescent lightbulbs and nylons. The lifespan of the bulbs [10:22] Techrights-sec was intentionally reduced through industry-wide consipiracy. Similar with the [10:22] Techrights-sec nylons which could be made high quality as far as appearance and texture but [10:22] Techrights-sec robust and resistant to "running". The other industries have slowing started [10:22] Techrights-sec to follow that kind of scam. In recent years it has been getting out of [10:22] Techrights-sec conttrol. Louis Rossmann has been finding and publicizing more companies and [10:22] Techrights-sec products that screw customers that way. [10:22] schestowitz-TR we now boil water only on the hob with a cover on, as you suggedted [10:22] schestowitz-TR the hob might not last very long [10:23] schestowitz-TR but at least it is already there, used for other things too [10:26] schestowitz-TR quiterss can be a RAM hog [10:26] schestowitz-TR if you have a lot of feed [10:26] schestowitz-TR I monitor cpu usage all the time [10:26] schestowitz-TR over ssh to my main laptop [10:26] schestowitz-TR quiterss does not do much if idle [10:26] schestowitz-TR I wonder if I will get a home visot from Borisnaro [10:26] schestowitz-TR for using a Russian RSS reader [10:26] Techrights-sec That too [10:26] Techrights-sec Perhaps [10:26] Techrights-sec I should write one [10:26] Techrights-sec in Python3 [10:26] schestowitz-TR [H]omer, who helped set up our IRC, did that [10:26] schestowitz-TR about 15 years ago [10:26] schestowitz-TR python 2 I think [10:27] schestowitz-TR slated.org guy [10:30] Techrights-sec there are a lot of improved things available nowadays [10:30] Techrights-sec for python scripting [10:30] schestowitz-TR I've lost any affection I had for python [10:30] schestowitz-TR (i never had much) [10:31] schestowitz-TR for technical reasons and guido reasons [10:35] Techrights-sec never had any for it myself, but python is an unfortunate necessity in many [10:35] Techrights-sec cases [10:36] schestowitz-TR i turn off quiterss a lot. afaik, it's still the best option around for several reasons. [10:36] schestowitz-TR I am glad feedburner is dead [10:36] schestowitz-TR not so glad some sites outsource to DF [10:36] schestowitz-TR CF [10:36] schestowitz-TR which then sends JS instead of RSS [10:37] schestowitz-TR but if those sites are that dumb [10:37] schestowitz-TR then let them suffer [10:40] Techrights-sec Javascript also kills the laptop battery; in 99% of the cases where I've seen [10:40] Techrights-sec javascript it has been unecessary and counterproductive [10:40] schestowitz-TR I always have it turned off in quiterss [10:41] schestowitz-TR if possible, I also view the raw summary, not the html [10:55] Techrights-sec QuiteRSS consumes *LOTS* of CPU even without javascript [10:55] Techrights-sec Most "web" pages burn CPU through gratuitous javascript. I wonder how many [10:55] Techrights-sec of the world's power plants are running full time just to serve javascript [10:55] Techrights-sec instead of regular HTML + CSS [10:56] schestowitz-TR i have just observed quiterss [10:56] schestowitz-TR when idle it takes not even 1% of cpu cycles here [10:56] schestowitz-TR maybe check config [10:56] schestowitz-TR or benchmark by observation [10:57] Techrights-sec powertop shows it also [10:57] Techrights-sec anyway back in a few hours ● Apr 01 [11:03] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@joseon-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [11:03] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:23] schestowitz Do you think it's worth clipping 22:30-23:30 in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2jmUNkvvjM ? [11:23] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Q2jmUNkvvjM [11:23] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> yewtu.be | Richard Stallman - "Are we facing surveillance like in China?" 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[11:58] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) ● Apr 01 [13:04] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [13:04] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@joseon-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell ● Apr 01 [15:13] schestowitz-TR Do you think it's worth clipping 22:30-23:30 in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2jmUNkvvjM ? [15:13] schestowitz-TR last I tried youtube-dl the whole pipoeline was out of date [15:14] schestowitz-TR gulag keeps breaking things [15:14] schestowitz-TR with help from shithub (microsoft) ● Apr 01 [17:01] Techrights-sec the gist of the Johnson presentation at LibrePlanet is that the web browsers [17:01] Techrights-sec are basically functioning as VMs, though he describes the problem very differently [17:01] Techrights-sec he does nail it by describing javascript sites as slow, bloated, and insecure [17:02] schestowitz-TR yes, metaphorically a VM [17:02] schestowitz-TR even the technical term is metaphor [17:02] schestowitz-TR same for containers [17:02] schestowitz-TR there are types of these [17:02] schestowitz-TR microsoft still pretends windows has thgeseB [17:02] Techrights-sec it is a VM which runs unsigned unauthenticated programs from random origins [17:02] schestowitz-TR did you see the RMS talk? I think we can link to the whole thing [17:03] schestowitz-TR he didn't act too badly [17:03] schestowitz-TR only a small burp halfware [17:03] schestowitz-TR I mentioned the one minute with light jokes [17:15] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@dgnqxf56ud7ge.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [17:26] Techrights-sec yes, I suppose the jokes are humorous but having them in video form [17:26] Techrights-sec is quite a lot of effort and bandwidth, so if they are used there should [17:26] Techrights-sec be a summary warning that there are two lighthearted jokes in the video [17:26] Techrights-sec the second joke was much better than the first one [17:26] schestowitz-TR oh, yeah, it needs a complete download first [17:26] schestowitz-TR never mind, at least you alone enjoyed the pointer [17:27] schestowitz-TR I have about 12-18 more talks from libreplanet I want to share [17:27] schestowitz-TR some are not appropriate [17:41] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [17:55] Techrights-sec which ones would be best? [17:55] Techrights-sec I have not gone through the others yet, just the two. The years seemed off [17:55] Techrights-sec in the Johnson summary of WWW history. [17:56] schestowitz-TR today I posted the jami one [17:56] schestowitz-TR it was quite popular in the event, I think ● Apr 01 [18:05] *kkbass (~943b96c0@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [18:06] *kkbass has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [18:22] Techrights-sec I was going to checkout the Usenet talk soon, either today or tomorrow [18:48] Techrights-sec otr: https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/92e9bb33fac744c9a084381fc35aa3c7 [18:48] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-experience.arcgis.com | Experience ● Apr 01 [20:35] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:53] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:53] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:54] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [20:55] *rianne_ (~rianne@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [20:55] *rianne_ (~rianne@joseon-4d3.0m6.7132oi.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [20:56] *liberty_box (~liberty@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Apr 01 [21:08] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:09] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@rsxkj8uwbv7hg.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Apr 01 [22:11] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Connection closed) [22:11] *u-amarsh04 has quit (connection closed)