IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, June 01, 2022

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our negotiation inside the company resume this afternoon

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but the more important meetings are in 2 weeks

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yesterday we got the salary, about 3,1k net

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we cannot keep it that high, but saving helps secure the future

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I've just checked the gz archives for today, they're OK

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Jun 01 11:20

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<techrights-news> Anil Dash ☛ https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/05/podcast-episode-wordle-and-web-we-need | Sourc<techrights-news> Anil Dash ☛ https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/05/podcast-episode-wordle-and-web-we-need | Source: EFFe: EFF

Jun 01 11:25

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.eff.org | Podcast Episode: Wordle and the Web We Need | Electronic Frontier Foundation

Jun 01 11:25

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Jun 01 11:45

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Jun 01 12:26

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"I'm new to Gemini. I made a post to Antenna, the blog aggregator. I was interested to see how many hits it generated over 24 hours. After some data munging, I came up with this" gemini://blinkyshark.chickenkiller.com/2022-06-01-gemini-analytics.gmi

Jun 01 12:47

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back to coffee today as only two large lemons are left, the firmest of them all

Jun 01 12:48

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so no need to hurry anymore

Jun 01 12:48

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serious question: should we make more posts about gemini

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as in gemini about gemini

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or no need for now?

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it's one thing some have complained about

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like flattering oneself

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^wrong paste

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no need for now, but posts about gemini in http would probably still be helpful

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but not often unless /not/ self-referring

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ack

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gemini:// protocol links might not pull people to use Gemini; they need info

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about how to get the clients first

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so far elpa-elpher is in the repositories for Debian derivatives. it can

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be promoted

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ok, I know what to do

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I'll drop it in as a "by the way"

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or, as more links in Daily Links

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to give it presence and exposure

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yes, getting people to fetch a proper client is a challenge

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in the proxy it's mentioned at top of all pages

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you said alfora is already, tetatively, in debian 12+derivs (to come)

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so it's going to the right direction, even if slowly

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amfora is in the main repository for the latest version AFAIK but not the derivatives yet

Jun 01 13:04

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I use it on 3 machines

Jun 01 13:06

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on my main machines iirc I have 8 clients

Jun 01 13:06

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rave: around geminispace we're recognised as prolific posters, proponents, and coders

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as the other capsules are small and relatively inactive

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so it puts us in a strong position

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many of the original leaders are infrequent posters

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last month we served 500,000 pages

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and those were not 'masturbatory' gemini posts about gemini

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but about all sorts of issues

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yes, lots of posts show that the capsule is active but the shorter posts,

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especially "memes" need to be summarized in a way which is useful for Gemini

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Many of them are, but it is an area which has a lot of room for improvement.

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Since the Gemini users are probably skilled and or early adoptwers, they

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are an important community to reach

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the *text* is the important part IMHO

Jun 01 13:12

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The image is (or should be) just supplemental

Jun 01 13:12

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given the increased storage capacity I can upload select memes to gemini://

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for those who use a GUI or image viewer

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those files are relatively small

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would there be value to adding an http/s link next to image: description?

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No, I would think not.

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thinking aloud here,

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surely a gemini proxy for images can or could be set up which takes a request specific

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to a jpeg or similar and sends that back over gemini

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the existing proxy sends that as stream already

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but some adaptation it could work in reverse

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serving the http-served objects over gemini instead

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without having to store the file statically in two place

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only transiently or dynamically, upon demand, ay the proxy endpoint

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it could even be media.techrights.org

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and be its own server software or daemon looking if media.techrights.org/xxxxxxx.jpg

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does correspond to an object over http in techrights.org/xxxxxxx.jpg

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without having to waste space

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basically a protocol converter

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The links for the images could point to the other server and be HTTPS / HTTP

Jun 01 13:19

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instead of converting them

Jun 01 13:19

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the gemini clients I tested with would not render, not in line anyway, images that

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are served over protocols other than titan, gopher, gemini etc.

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the idea is to "protect" the user from what we strive to "replace"

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a crazier approach is

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a) use rianne's pi with agate and external drive

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b) instead of drive use /uploads directory from the site

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rsynch overnight

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run over port 1966

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and serve on it media.techrights.org

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then, any attachments [so to speak] from the main site

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would be accessible over media.tr:1966

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with the same path structure

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complicated and prone to more race conditions

Jun 01 13:25

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the gemini clients I tested with would not render, not in line anyway, images that

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are served over protocols other than titan, gopher, gemini etc.

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the idea is to "protect" the user from what we strive to "replace"

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a crazier approach is

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a) use rianne's pi with agate and external drive

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b) instead of drive use /uploads directory from the site

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rsynch overnight

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run over port 1966

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and serve on it media.techrights.org

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then, any attachments [so to speak] from the main site

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would be accessible over media.tr:1966

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with the same path structure

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aside from the rsync part, deploying the existing 'upload' directory to a pi (32gb) and setting up a gemini account would take

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me less than 1 hour

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then, if the site is offline, there would be alternative access to these objects

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objects that ipfs lacks as it only has the bulletins and irc logs (those are not under 'uploads'

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at the moment, as rianne and I don't know what comes next month, that pi might be used as a VPN and remain on VPN

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most of the time

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VPN is useful in some contexts but at the end of the day they exist almost

Jun 01 13:29

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exclusively because M$ products cant be exposed to the net and the old

Jun 01 13:29

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1980s zero trust model was eliminated

Jun 01 13:29

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all that is managed by role-based authentication, authorization, and acccess

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which M$ eliminated in the 00s

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The broke the net

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^They

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the use of vpn in our company is complicated

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it is inherited from policies of clients

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and also being able to "shut out" former employees

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removing account works

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but not when the access credential are for companies other than ours

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did you see what mr. krebs wrote about costa rica yesterday?

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it's in my notes now for next Security Leftovers (TM)

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I'll check

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Interesting re-use of the name Hive:

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this may suffer reputational damage from all that, though it is not involved:

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https://www.hive.fi/

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Like the "Raspberry" ransomware or whatever that was the other week

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.hive.fi | Hive Helsinki

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OK, anyway scrap/shelve that idea about adding TR objects (PDFs, images) to gemini://

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it seems like a simple idea but a lot of work, esp. long-term maintenance

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there are like 50,000 objects there and they are large

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can become a burden on the home network

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maybe next year we'll take a bite againt at fibreoptics

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once it has been more properly tested

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our connection has been very robust during the pandemic times

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don't want to risk that

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also no further outages since last week's incident

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although we had bad, soggy weather, unlike a week ago

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psydroid2: ^^

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discussed here... at the moment

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we only have about 1Mbit UPstream

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oh right

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some images are MBs in size

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so it may be better not to do that

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it wouldn't make sense

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gemini pages are like <10KB

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ack

Jun 01 13:41

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prior to the next AC meeting, determining the future of "Tony", I expect us to have many textial publications

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lately we've focus on many, many Daily Links

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seeing that other sites are struggling at it

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TuxMachines is 18 shortly

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ack

Jun 01 13:44

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OTA

Jun 01 14:39

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go over gemini

Jun 01 14:39

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draft

Jun 01 14:39

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ack

Jun 01 15:20

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could use a link to a gemini client

Jun 01 15:20

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right, too late now

Jun 01 15:21

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meeting i n 10 mins

Jun 01 15:21

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wine in the fridge either way

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even if i get my part time freedom

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i always felty it would be imploite to ask

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ack

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good luck

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i put forth my suggestion of going part time

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it was welcomed by ceo

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but colleagues ... no comment

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the colleagues probably do not benefit from a reduction in your hours, both

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because of the skillset and experience you have and the extra hours they

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will have to cover

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it is worse

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me suggesting this means they too might have to consider thre same

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and I don't know if their spouses are employed

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we would be fine with net 2k instead or ~3k

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for them, under 1k barely covers rent

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they live near london

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ceo loved my suggestion

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welcomed it and mentioned it 3 times, rianne recalls

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calling it "generous"

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I've long wanted to do this

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and now there's a chance to do so without it being "imploite"

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but "generous" :-)

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it's enough to sail into retirement (assuming we stay afloat another 23 years... we turn 24 this year)

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without spending a few hours per week, maybe a net of 1-2 hours a week (net work)

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based on the scoring they showed, I rank high for never taking any sick leave, ever, and working longer than all the colleagues

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you might call it "semi early retirement"

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good that it was well received there

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I will finalise my text accordingly maybe 4 weeks from now

Jun 01 17:08

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to not say anything that can afford

Jun 01 17:08

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*offend (sorry, wine's fault)

Jun 01 17:08

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I joins Fed 11 2011 so it's kind of a long-term commitment by today's awful standards (not many people last over a decade;

Jun 01 17:10

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for rianne it's her longgest job... second longest was 8.5 years)

Jun 01 17:10

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*I joined Feb 2011

Jun 01 17:10

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ack

Jun 01 17:15

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does the company have any formally recognized advatages for seniority?

Jun 01 17:34

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it is one of the factors in case of redundancies

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among others

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but remember it's a "milking" thing

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no desire to advance

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full-time activism is a lot more important

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but acticism is not a source of income

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ack

Jun 01 17:48

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also, when you aim low you can end up on top

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when you aim high, you're getting knackered keeping up

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I need all my energy for TR

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rianne for TM

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ack

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she took the b runk of my work shifts at times

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*brant

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*brunt