●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, October 01, 2022 ●● ● Oct 01 [01:58] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Oct 01 [02:00] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [02:06] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:08] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [02:54] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Oct 01 [05:34] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@3wpw8i8zcbs5u.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 01 [07:02] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [07:17] schestowitz-TR [topic] Fedora suffers from software patents, removes features, while IBM lobbies for such patents and gives software patents to patent trolls (in sales) [07:56] Techrights-sec ack ● Oct 01 [08:28] Techrights-sec EFF's site seems not to be in chronological order; WTF? [08:28] schestowitz-TR moz the same [08:28] schestowitz-TR it is the new fashion [08:34] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@s939t88amepxs.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [08:35] schestowitz-TR like twitter [08:35] schestowitz-TR optmised for "engagement" [08:35] schestowitz-TR not usability ● Oct 01 [09:08] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:08] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:09] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [09:09] schestowitz-TR Strike 1 for hackaday... after doing a Microsoft puff piece, in effect abetting criminals https://hackaday.com/2022/09/30/microsoft-wants-you-to-help-with-assistive-tech/ | Source: Hackaday [09:09] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Microsoft Wants You (To Help With Assistive Tech) | Hackaday [09:12] Techrights-sec Hackaday is a mixed bag but all publishers are in the crosshairs at M$ [09:12] Techrights-sec Change of editors there is important to take note of [09:12] Techrights-sec ^topic [09:13] schestowitz-TR when they change editor some months ago the quality sank and linux is mentioned less [09:13] schestowitz-TR maybe after a strike 2 it's worth covering [09:13] schestowitz-TR maybe the tip came from a Microsoft rep pitching it to them [09:14] schestowitz-TR like "Elizabeth" in Solyent News, who jokes about Microsoft opionions not counting... because "hate".. and "sexism" [09:16] *rianne_ (~rianne@freenode-vjf.peq.k31cok.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [09:16] *rianne (~rianne@ngvjyiryrrbba.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [09:18] *liberty_box (~liberty@ngvjyiryrrbba.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [09:27] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:27] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:28] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [09:31] Techrights-sec ack [09:32] schestowitz-TR not worth even spending energy on trolls, in some sense.. [09:32] schestowitz-TR but to identity them and help others identify them too [09:36] schestowitz-TR ddi you see my items above [09:36] schestowitz-TR re a) torvalds [09:36] schestowitz-TR b) cisa [09:36] schestowitz-TR c) covid [09:36] schestowitz-TR I am going to meet a friend soon, will wear 2 masks [09:37] Techrights-sec Yes, I though I commented on CISA [09:40] Techrights-sec http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-300922.html#tSep%2030%2022:51:02 [09:40] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, September 30, 2022 [09:40] Techrights-sec http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-300922.html#tSep%2030%2022:51:29 [09:40] Techrights-sec aka plagiarism [09:40] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, September 30, 2022 [09:42] schestowitz-TR yes, i try now to do anything perceived to be time-wasting [09:42] schestowitz-TR but we'll see if the two [topics] in my kate file will last the weekend [09:42] schestowitz-TR it's the security links (3) and fedora swpats thing so far [09:43] Techrights-sec regarding machine learning: [09:43] Techrights-sec https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/better-regulation/have-your-say/initiatives/12979-Civil-liability-adapting-liability-rules-to-the-digital-age-and-artificial-intelligence/public-consultation_en [09:43] Techrights-sec ^ topic [09:43] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ec.europa.eu | Have your say [09:44] Techrights-sec (either machine learning in general or machine learning and copyright violation [09:44] Techrights-sec GPL evasion) [09:44] schestowitz-TR added, thanks [09:44] schestowitz-TR i am preparing to leave in a few hours [09:45] Techrights-sec aka plagiarism [09:45] Techrights-sec ok [09:46] schestowitz-TR covid will rsise shrply (see link above) [09:46] schestowitz-TR see still a window of chance to see some people, pruidently [09:46] schestowitz-TR I\m still finishing some end-of-month tasks [09:46] schestowitz-TR so multitasking, which is very hard [09:59] Techrights-sec With the link above it seems not possible to link directly to the Summary report: Ares(2022)2620305 nor to the comments; They are both blocked by gratuitous [09:59] Techrights-sec [09:59] Techrights-sec javascript; [09:59] Techrights-sec Best to focus on one thing at a time, and postpone or tune out distractions. [09:59] Techrights-sec The cognitive overhead for task switching is really very high. ● Oct 01 [10:00] schestowitz-TR usually i do this right after midnight, but I was too tired last night [10:00] schestowitz-TR anyway, almost done now [10:00] schestowitz-TR and yes, task switching is a task in its own right [10:30] schestowitz > Hi Roy,>> I am on holiday for the first time in three years so am not going to> enter a long conversation with you. However, let me put your mind at ease. [10:30] schestowitz Thanks for responding. I will try to keep it short. [10:30] schestowitz > On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 8:17 AM Roy Schestowitz > wrote: [10:30] schestowitz > [10:30] schestowitz > I was right. [10:30] schestowitz > [10:30] schestowitz > So have you guys of no sense of shame? [10:30] schestowitz > [10:30] schestowitz > The OSI seems to be running for no good purpose anyway. [10:30] schestowitz > [10:30] schestowitz > You actively help Microsoft attack Free software and you profit from it. [10:30] schestowitz > [10:30] schestowitz > http://techrights.org/2022/09/30/infiltration-of-osi/ [10:30] schestowitz > [10:30] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Open Source Initiative Controlled (Infiltrated) by Microsoft GitHub: Microsoft Bribes OSI to Justify GPL Violations Under the Guise of AI, Even Writes the OSIs Material | Techrights [10:30] schestowitz > [10:30] schestowitz > [10:30] schestowitz > You're still reading it wrong. I found there was a cash surplus in the [10:30] schestowitz > seperately-accounted ClearlyDefined "bucket", which is currently an [10:30] schestowitz > outside-run project but under OSI's fiduciary umbrella (so all we do is [10:30] schestowitz > collect a 10%fee and let them run things themselves, like Conservancy [10:30] schestowitz > do) [10:30] schestowitz The Conservancy is no role model (in recent years I've had many criticisms of them, too) and that 10% fee you're mention simply means you rely on appeasing Microsoft or else lose some income. It's the same issue in the LF. You become incapable of criticising the opposition (yes, Microsoft is STILL attacking us in MANY ways) without fiscal consequences. [10:30] schestowitz > , and I've proposed using those funds to hire a staff member for OSI [10:30] schestowitz > for two years under OSI management (not Microsoft), taking over [10:30] schestowitz > management of ClearlyDefined (so Microsoft no longer staff its [10:30] schestowitz > administration) and get a new person working on other, independent [10:30] schestowitz > projects. [10:30] schestowitz Microsoft is in the board and the new "staff member for OSI" is dependent on Microsoft money. This is not a healthy arrangement. [10:30] schestowitz > So the ClearlyDefined action is actually Microsoft becoming less rather [10:30] schestowitz > than more involved. [10:30] schestowitz So you wish. You say this to yourself. But it's untrue. Also, you still take money from Microsoft through two buckets, GitHub AND Microsoft. GitHub is an ATTACK on Free software, it's imprisoning many projects. It's not encouraging people to violate licences. Microsoft pays the OSI (see link above) to make it sound benign or even desirable. [10:30] schestowitz > And later you falsely report me to censor any criticism, even perfectly [10:30] schestowitz > legitimate. Like get me suspended from Twitter under "COVID-19" [10:30] schestowitz > pretenses. [10:30] schestowitz > [10:30] schestowitz > [10:30] schestowitz > Huh? No such thing has happened. In fact I have you muted on Twitter so [10:31] schestowitz > have seen nothing you have done there for several years. [10:31] schestowitz When I said you I meant collectively, OSI. I wrote a lot about what happened. [10:31] schestowitz I think you and I got into conflict when you signed that letter of defamation against RMS. You helped legitimise lies. I wonder if you read and fact-checked what you had signed. [10:31] schestowitz Anyway, I quit all social control media 7 months ago (all sites) willfully because they're going down fast and causing mostly conflicts anyway (it also spreads defamation without hindrance, inc. re RMS). E-mail is a lot more healthy. My Twitter account is there, I just don't use it anymore. [10:31] schestowitz > Shame on you, Simon. You could have prevented this. [10:31] schestowitz > [10:31] schestowitz > [10:31] schestowitz > I don't run OSI any more. But you're reading it wrong, Roy. [10:31] schestowitz You did not convince me that I'm reading it wrong. I'm all ears, I know what I'm seeing, I've investigated this for years. Even the co-founders of OSI haven't much good to say. [10:31] schestowitz Sorry if I spoil your holidays a bit. When I sent you CC 10 months ago it was actually because I see you as the person who can salvage the OSI. I still hope things can improve. Feuds lead to no good, including conflicts with the FSF. You yourself made that joke about Life of Brian. Microsoft is the "Romans" in this context. [10:31] schestowitz Regards, [10:39] schestowitz-TR OSI is finished. [10:39] schestowitz-TR Phipps is partly retired and is doing FLOSS weekly, an openwashing front for proprietary firms and bill & lolita gates founddation as of late [10:39] schestowitz-TR not much that can be done to salvage them [10:39] schestowitz-TR salvation was probably still possible when michael ran the OSI [10:39] schestowitz-TR he too vanished [10:39] schestowitz-TR I'm not sure he's in ICBM [10:39] schestowitz-TR I just didn't see his name, not even iin CNET and other sites he used to appear in [10:39] schestowitz-TR Tiemann is just some "old fart" who once appearsed in Revolution OS and then spent some years in OSI [10:39] schestowitz-TR OSI is now run by corporate ilk and saboteurs egging them on [10:40] schestowitz-TR in the name of "justice" (read: corporate domination) ● Oct 01 [11:10] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [11:41] Techrights-sec Yes, it appears to have been converted into an openwashing front. [11:41] Techrights-sec Phipps can't do it all himself, even if he had the will, which it appears [11:41] Techrights-sec he doesn't, but he could have drawn in or recruited people of the right [11:41] Techrights-sec background to preserve and advace OSI and its values rather than those [11:41] Techrights-sec who have subverted them. [11:42] schestowitz-TR I will leave in about 1 hour [11:42] schestowitz-TR check mail [11:42] schestowitz-TR I've just posted daily links, spoke a lot to parents etc. [11:42] schestowitz-TR later I will catch up with rss feeds and sue the spare time for articles [11:42] schestowitz-TR rianne is working today and tomorrow [11:42] schestowitz-TR irc has been clam [11:42] schestowitz-TR *calm [11:42] Techrights-sec ack [11:42] Techrights-sec Calm is ok, on-topic is better. [11:51] Techrights-sec By the way, the NTP article is more important than it might look at first glance [11:52] schestowitz-TR phk? ● Oct 01 [12:01] Techrights-sec Yes, a quote or mention of him but the article is long and covers a lot [12:05] schestowitz-TR it is in the latest -published daily links [12:05] schestowitz-TR I'm waiting for the sun to come out, i might leave early [12:05] schestowitz-TR but wandering aroudn shops in weekends can be risky [12:05] schestowitz-TR poor ventilation [12:05] schestowitz-TR trying to think if I need to buy any non-food items [12:05] schestowitz-TR i plan to back up TR db tomorrow, but TM and TR still need another offsite backup [12:05] schestowitz-TR gemini has been running nonstop since the system was restored [12:05] Techrights-sec ack [12:05] Techrights-sec yes [12:05] Techrights-sec ack [12:05] Techrights-sec excellent [12:05] Techrights-sec What about usage? [12:06] schestowitz-TR there's the stats section [12:06] schestowitz-TR there might be growing pains in geminispace [12:06] schestowitz-TR the media needs to be boosting it some more [12:06] schestowitz-TR or maybe not, that might ruin it [12:14] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [12:14] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [12:18] Techrights-sec checking [12:18] schestowitz-TR "SSH" and "Linu "SSH" and "Linux" FUD; bad passwords https://www.fudzilla.com/news/55575-chaos-hits-linux-and-windows-machinesx" FUD; bad passwords https://www.fudzilla.com/news/55575-chaos-hits-linux-and-windows-machines [12:18] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.fudzilla.com | Chaos hits Linux and Windows machines [12:18] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.fudzilla.com | Chaos hits Linux and Windows machines [12:20] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [12:20] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@22agg6qj8dxhg.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [12:26] Techrights-sec :10 [12:26] Techrights-sec gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/30/infiltration-of-osi/ [12:31] schestowitz-TR the headline from yle reeks of "hatchet job" [12:31] schestowitz-TR selective quoting with a particular agenda in mind [12:31] schestowitz-TR but then again most "news" sites are like this [12:31] schestowitz-TR and one assumes younger people are too lazy to read thr whole thing [12:31] schestowitz-TR in social control media only the headline would be extracted [12:31] schestowitz-TR and the editor, not the writer, chooses the headline [12:31] schestowitz-TR I go by the rule of [12:31] schestowitz-TR 100% see headline [12:31] schestowitz-TR 50% read it [12:31] schestowitz-TR 20% read summary [12:31] schestowitz-TR 10% read the fucking article (RTFM/A) [12:31] schestowitz-TR and the earlier paragraphs always get read more than later ones [12:32] schestowitz-TR most people who comment only read the headline and nothing more [12:32] schestowitz-TR some people click "like" even if they just saw but did not read the headline [12:32] schestowitz-TR because they play a game of "I like all yours" and "you like all mine back" [12:32] schestowitz-TR so we both look popular (in some microcosm of a privaye firm) [12:32] schestowitz-TR unless the site/.DB shut down [12:32] Techrights-sec ack [12:32] Techrights-sec The agitation against SSH seems to be that it allows commodity services. [12:32] Techrights-sec Via SSH, access is not just secure and universal, but the interface is the [12:32] Techrights-sec same regardless. With proprietary web interfaces, they are just that: proprietary [12:33] Techrights-sec The propaganda against SSH is about further decommoditifcation of services [12:33] Techrights-sec In this case, it is a tactic used against GNU/Linux and BSD hosting. [12:34] schestowitz-TR gtg [12:34] schestowitz-TR bbl [12:34] Techrights-sec ack [12:47] *liberty_box (~liberty@ngvjyiryrrbba.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [12:48] *rianne_ (~rianne@freenode-vjf.peq.k31cok.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [12:48] *rianne (~rianne@ngvjyiryrrbba.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 01 [13:01] *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Oct 01 [16:10] schestowitz-TR back [16:12] Techrights-sec https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/10/01/1060539/eu-tech-policy-harmful-ai-liability/ [16:12] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.technologyreview.com | The EU wants to put companies on the hook for harmful AI | MIT Technology Review [16:17] schestowitz-TR thanks for the link, I have 3 topics now as potential topics [16:17] schestowitz-TR I was thinking of OSI and GPL violations on the way home [16:17] schestowitz-TR it just made me a little angry [16:17] schestowitz-TR and could not think of anything new or witty to say [16:17] schestowitz-TR i suppose tofr morale we could say, that's just the result of it being so ubiquitious [16:17] schestowitz-TR it becomes a prime target for attacks [16:17] schestowitz-TR but not everyone sold out [16:17] schestowitz-TR as a sdie note, the decision to never stress myself too much with exercise was likelu a good [16:17] schestowitz-TR one as some people I know destroyed their body by doing it too much and too hard [16:17] schestowitz-TR I will do more walking and watch the weight, that ought to be enough [16:17] schestowitz-TR back in a bit, catching up [16:17] schestowitz-TR (also hard to find discounted food, I was almost empty handed after 10 stores) [16:17] Techrights-sec See also the EU link and the zip file there too. Most of the comments in the [16:17] Techrights-sec zip file are crap but there are some good ones in there too. [16:19] schestowitz-TR I tried to kill 3 birds with one stone: eet freidn, get reference for rianne's form from a prof. [16:19] schestowitz-TR and then get something on the way back home [16:19] schestowitz-TR all were fulfilled to some extend, but the time spent on the last task was "low yield" [16:19] schestowitz-TR it was not time for optimal yield, just what suited $friend [16:19] Techrights-sec ok [16:19] Techrights-sec ack [16:20] schestowitz-TR i will ignore chat for a bit to catch up [16:20] schestowitz-TR rianne finished work soon, then will post links [16:20] schestowitz-TR *finishes [16:20] Techrights-sec ack [16:42] schestowitz-TR Mr. Puppy Linux: "I have had an account with Amazon for a very long time, but cancelled it yesterday." https://bkhome.org/news/202210/have-cancelled-amazon-account.html [16:42] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-bkhome.org | Have cancelled Amazon account [16:48] Techrights-sec ack [16:50] schestowitz-TR even my rss feeds are becoming a higher % of "sea of shit" [16:50] schestowitz-TR low s/n ratio even in sites that used to be ok :/ [16:50] schestowitz-TR I need to dumpster-dive into the haystack and tolerate some needles in the stack [16:50] schestowitz-TR some are narcotics [16:50] schestowitz-TR one method I found useful: let it add up for a bit, e.g. 100 items, then run a set of filter to weed out the shit [16:50] schestowitz-TR wheat and chaff... [16:51] schestowitz-TR but even then out of 100 you might be left with 10 "good" stories and maybe of them are mutually related [16:51] schestowitz-TR gulag noise was really bad already when I left it [16:51] schestowitz-TR I don't suppose I miss much there [16:51] Techrights-sec ack [16:51] Techrights-sec Google "News" is still garbage [16:51] Techrights-sec I check a few searches still, but not often. And it is even more seldom that [16:51] Techrights-sec there is anything relevant, and rarer still for it to be worth citing. [16:52] schestowitz-TR leaving gulag in 2022 is easy like leaving twitter in 2022 [16:52] schestowitz-TR because they no longer optiomise to give me what I ask for [16:52] schestowitz-TR but what those companies want to push to me [16:52] Techrights-sec No idea but the end result either way is that they have only garbage. [16:56] schestowitz-TR this, i predict, will mean a growing future need for good curation [16:56] schestowitz-TR there's a massive vacuum [16:56] schestowitz-TR sadly this vacuum also means lesened incentive to actually run news sites [16:56] schestowitz-TR they're invisibles [16:56] schestowitz-TR like a company without a business model [16:56] schestowitz-TR and time runs out [16:56] schestowitz-TR alexa.com [16:56] schestowitz-TR did lots of "work" [16:56] schestowitz-TR got many "users" [16:56] schestowitz-TR no business model [16:56] schestowitz-TR shut dow in May IIRC ● Oct 01 [17:01] Techrights-sec Yes, too few have a means to find / track / discover real news. I suspect [17:01] Techrights-sec that many are instead allowing themselves to be mislead by social control media. [17:01] Techrights-sec about what to read and when. [17:01] Techrights-sec TM used to have some original content though. [17:01] schestowitz-TR sites that invest in maintaining presence in such "sites" are time-wasting [17:01] schestowitz-TR for a whole slew of reasons [17:01] schestowitz-TR TR never wasted time on this, tuxmachines is on auto-pilot pretty much [17:01] schestowitz-TR me? I quit all of it and at the time though I might return one day (I no longer think so) [17:04] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [17:09] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [17:12] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [17:20] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@nej6snvuymu3c.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [17:21] schestowitz-TR Linux-hostile companies that fund ZDNet are behind this; they don't care about security, they just use that as a leash on communities https://www.zdnet.com/article/whats-what-in-the-united-states-securing-open-source-software-act/ http://techrights.org/2022/09/28/discriminating-against-free-software/ [17:21] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-What the Securing Open Source Software Act does and what it misses | ZDNET [17:21] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Attempts to Legislate Against Free Software in Order to Elbow Such Software Aside | Techrights [17:21] schestowitz-TR sjvn [17:22] schestowitz-TR he borrws the name and face, I guess, even to defamation campaigns like the rms one [17:22] Techrights-sec sjvn is coin-operated since a few years back, so what he says is less important [17:22] Techrights-sec than who is getting him to say what he says [17:23] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [17:30] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:30] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:32] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [17:35] *rianne (~rianne@ngvjyiryrrbba.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [17:35] *rianne_ (~rianne@freenode-vjf.peq.k31cok.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [17:36] *liberty_box (~liberty@ngvjyiryrrbba.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [17:42] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:42] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:43] *rianne (~rianne@ngvjyiryrrbba.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [17:44] *liberty_box (~liberty@ngvjyiryrrbba.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [17:48] *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:56] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 01 [18:08] *starstreak has quit (Quit: Leaving) [18:08] Techrights-sec The list of recent posts in TM now has a distinct CSS class for the updated [18:08] Techrights-sec posts. The CSS has not yet been modified to make it visible to visitors. [18:09] schestowitz-TR ah, ok, that explains why hard-refresh shows no difference [18:10] Techrights-sec Something unobtrusive is needed as a marker. [18:11] schestowitz-TR in my notes I have my old discussion about splitting it up further using some heuristics, like pseudo categories [18:11] schestowitz-TR maybe vertically or with vertical bars [18:13] Techrights-sec Categories would be one way to do that , but it must be by proper categories [18:13] Techrights-sec and not trying to guess based on strings in the titles. That is a little [18:13] Techrights-sec more error prone, though, the way posts are currently entered. Pull down [18:13] Techrights-sec menus work best for that but those are not really feasible without major [18:13] Techrights-sec headache and rewriting using ncurses or something else awful. [18:16] schestowitz-TR based on our experiences with drupal, it is an extra burden with little practical benefit [18:16] schestowitz-TR guesswork might not be doable either [18:16] schestowitz-TR so in my notes it's one of several ideas [18:16] schestowitz-TR we still don't have proper archives pages in gemini and https [18:16] schestowitz-TR (rioanne just broke a plate ;/) [18:16] Techrights-sec Ok, then maybe it should be ignored. [18:16] Techrights-sec What kind of archives for TM are needed in Gemini and HTTPS? [18:17] schestowitz-TR something for each data/week/months [18:17] schestowitz-TR at the very least for searchg engines to index easily [18:19] schestowitz-TR not intentional, good platye, but the noise distracted me, she loved that plate [18:19] Techrights-sec Oh. [18:19] Techrights-sec As it stands, the search engines should be able to follow the navigation [18:19] Techrights-sec links forwards and backwards. [18:19] Techrights-sec (throughout the entire tm-new site) [18:20] schestowitz-TR i keep telling her, it's not expensive [18:20] schestowitz-TR first question, "is this just a plate?" [18:20] schestowitz-TR "don't worry, it's used and onl;y worth like a pound anyway" [18:20] schestowitz-TR (it was not a gift, either) [18:21] Techrights-sec ack ● Oct 01 [19:09] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 01 [20:36] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@3wpw8i8zcbs5u.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Oct 01 [21:59] Techrights-sec Testing CSS, not in Git yet ● Oct 01 [23:48] *techrights_guest|83 (~5198ecf9@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [23:54] *techrights_guest|83 has quit (Quit: Connection closed)