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schestowitz-TRin the home directory, you will find a new director, entitled accountingAug 02 03:46
schestowitz-TRa week ago a new financial disclosure was quietly released (as I was expecting (end of July each year)Aug 02 03:46
schestowitz-TRI've included this latest one, plus the one from the year priorAug 02 03:46
schestowitz-TRthe 4 PNG files show (top) last year's and this year's, comparing analogous pagesAug 02 03:46
schestowitz-TR/home/roy/ on your machineAug 02 03:46
schestowitz-TRI've configured git messaging, I'll not get system bell when git-tm has "pushed" changes (I'll NOW)Aug 02 04:21
schestowitz-TRsince the qemu fix no bad backups, nothing in dmesg. see TR posts re uefi and linuxtoday.Aug 02 04:50
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Techrights-sec2otr: I'm not an accountant, I don't know how to read those numbers but they Aug 02 08:18
Techrights-sec2otr: seem like they are running out of money based on one of the linesAug 02 08:18
Techrights-secWhat method did you use for Git messaging?  I think we are the first on the netAug 02 08:19
Techrights-secto have used standard "IoT" messaging.  At least no one else has written aboutAug 02 08:19
Techrights-secusing MQTT+TLS with Git.  Aug 02 08:19
Techrights-secWhich one is about UEFI?Aug 02 08:20
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schestowitz-TRre otr, yes, I made a mistake after rebooting, window in wrong channelsAug 02 08:24
schestowitz-TRthe one about job offers from MSFTAug 02 08:24
Techrights-sec Aug 02 08:24
Techrights-secackAug 02 08:24
Techrights-secnpAug 02 08:24
Techrights-seccheckingAug 02 08:24
Techrights-secI saw that one but it did not mention UEFI by name.  Important tidbit to haveAug 02 08:26
Techrights-secdocumented there.  It also means that he is in some kind of contact with M$ orAug 02 08:26
Techrights-secat least viceversa and that his work is attractive to M$ goalsAug 02 08:26
Techrights-sec^s/his work/controlling his work/Aug 02 08:26
schestowitz-TRit is a URLAug 02 08:29
schestowitz-TRre accounting, yes, I agree, but did not want to give that away upfrontAug 02 08:29
schestowitz-TRand it does not surprise me, hence our decision even prior to the meetingsAug 02 08:29
schestowitz-TRthe calibre of client changed, as did the nature of the workAug 02 08:29
Techrights-secCan I talk you into looking at roy-monitor-git-with-mqtt.tar.gz ?  Aug 02 08:35
Techrights-sec:)Aug 02 08:35
Techrights-secchecking     Aug 02 08:35
Techrights-secadding additional --topic options is possible so as to monitor multipleAug 02 08:35
Techrights-secservicesAug 02 08:35
Techrights-seceach service can publish to its own topic, right now we just have twoAug 02 08:35
Techrights-secI though TLSv1.3 was in use there?Aug 02 08:35
Techrights-secOhAug 02 08:35
Techrights-secmosquitto_sub --topic foo ... | tee -a /dev/stderr | awk ... | espeakAug 02 08:35
schestowitz-TRI am already using thatAug 02 08:35
schestowitz-TRsee git changesAug 02 08:35
schestowitz-TRI did about 5 pushes overnight to test withAug 02 08:35
schestowitz-TRmostly robots.txtAug 02 08:35
schestowitz-TRI had to change to tls 1.2Aug 02 08:35
schestowitz-TRdebian 10Aug 02 08:35
Techrights-secI've had to expand my desktop to 6 panels now, there are so many subprojectsAug 02 08:37
Techrights-secgoing onAug 02 08:37
Techrights-secsomething is wrong with the current usage, your session keeps trying to doAug 02 08:37
Techrights-secredundant connections.  checking ...Aug 02 08:37
schestowitz-TRit is not wrong, at the moment it does both the old and the new approach, but I will alter the frequency of the latterAug 02 08:38
schestowitz-TRit's on a visible screen, the other is for system bell etc.Aug 02 08:38
Techrights-secbut is mosquitto_sub being run once or in a loop?  It should be run once andAug 02 08:38
Techrights-secleft to wait.Aug 02 08:38
schestowitz-TRit runs only once, outside the loopAug 02 08:39
Techrights-secsomehow it appears to be in a loop and while one is running another triesAug 02 08:40
Techrights-sec(unsuccessfully) to usurp the connection.  Aug 02 08:40
schestowitz-TRsee daily-linux.sh in gitAug 02 08:40
Techrights-sec The loop is about 1 second long.Aug 02 08:40
Techrights-sec$ find tuxmachines.org/ -type f -name 'daily-linux.sh' -print | wc -lAug 02 08:47
Techrights-sec0Aug 02 08:47
Techrights-secfound it, it is in the 'wrong' repository, checkingAug 02 08:47
Techrights-secsomehow it is going off every second, when run standalone, monitor-git.shAug 02 08:47
Techrights-secwill just wait Aug 02 08:47
Techrights-seccan you try stopping the daily-links.sh script for bit and try runningAug 02 08:47
Techrights-secmonitor-git.sh by itself?   Aug 02 08:47
Techrights-secthanksAug 02 08:47
Techrights-secsee :/var/log/mosquitto/mosquitto.logAug 02 08:52
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schestowitz-TRhiAug 02 14:32
schestowitz-TRgood news: they found the issues with the underwater cable and fixed it afaikAug 02 14:32
schestowitz-TRI spoke to thr workers, they still work on olther cablleAug 02 14:32
schestowitz-TRbad newS: the downtime]\Aug 02 14:32
schestowitz-TR*underground, not underwaterAug 02 14:32
schestowitz-TRalthough the rain may have played a roleAug 02 14:32
schestowitz-TRwould rather move on, not talk about uitAug 02 14:32
schestowitz-TRlkots of catchinmg upw to doAug 02 14:32
schestowitz-TRpi rebooted, will work tor estaore services...Aug 02 14:32
Techrights-sechiAug 02 14:33
Techrights-secackAug 02 14:33
Techrights-secokAug 02 14:54
Techrights-seccan you please check the update to Git tr-git from this morning and Aug 02 14:54
Techrights-sectry pgrep/pkill to cull the multiple background processes?Aug 02 14:54
Techrights-seccommit : dd083557d76d542d39c46dc79478b59570899b4dAug 02 14:54
schestowitz-TRI cannot seem to reboot the pi from d cardAug 02 14:55
schestowitz-TRcould the outage have ruined it?Aug 02 14:55
schestowitz-TRI did some better coverage of the pi while downAug 02 14:55
schestowitz-TRlike enclosures and allAug 02 14:55
schestowitz-TRbut why shuld the sd card be affected?Aug 02 14:55
schestowitz-TRmany a number of sequential outages ruined it?Aug 02 14:55
schestowitz-TRI have backup from a few days ago, but only for /home/*Aug 02 14:55
Techrights-secI'm not sure, the system on the card should generally not be affected by an  Aug 02 15:02
Techrights-secunclean shutdown.  It would require a fsck on boot up.  Maybe you can tryAug 02 15:02
Techrights-secfsck on the EXT partition there via another machine.  Do you have an adaper     Aug 02 15:02
Techrights-secstill?Aug 02 15:02
schestowitz-TRyes, let me tryAug 02 15:05
schestowitz-TRwhat command btw?Aug 02 15:05
Techrights-secI'm not sure off the top of my head but it would be fsck and then the parition'sAug 02 15:06
Techrights-secdeviceAug 02 15:06
Techrights-secbe sure not to fsck the wrong partition or the wrong deviceAug 02 15:06
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schestowitz-TRI can get dmesg to see it, i run fsck anbd e2fsckAug 02 15:15
schestowitz-TRbut it complaints about superblock not being foundAug 02 15:15
schestowitz-TRI can try to see if rianne's pi can boot this sd cardAug 02 15:15
Techrights-sechmm.  reading online about it  Aug 02 15:15
Techrights-secokAug 02 15:15
schestowitz-TRthe pi now runs off the USB cloneAug 02 16:15
schestowitz-TRbut it's very slowAug 02 16:15
schestowitz-TRsame as with rianneAug 02 16:15
schestowitz-TReven on USB3 portAug 02 16:15
schestowitz-TRone option is, clone this system to another SD cardAug 02 16:15
schestowitz-TRthen boot from thatAug 02 16:15
schestowitz-TRthen copy across from backup, which is maybe 2 days oldAug 02 16:15
schestowitz-TReven then it would be out of date a bitkaniini said sd cards are not reliableAug 02 16:15
schestowitz-TRand my experience has been the sameAug 02 16:15
schestowitz-TRthough I cannot say for sure the outages led to thirAug 02 16:15
schestowitz-TRand maybe I can still recover this one?Aug 02 16:15
Techrights-secyes most people would agree with that assessmentAug 02 16:16
Techrights-secyou could boot from USB stick.  It might be worth it to keep the data on a Aug 02 16:16
Techrights-secseparate device. /home/ on a separate stickAug 02 16:16
Techrights-secprobably did you try to use the superblock backup?Aug 02 16:23
Techrights-sec"Recover superblock on ext4 filesystem"Aug 02 16:26
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schestowitz-TRyes, I tried all the above, both manuals, from 2 laptopsAug 02 16:34
schestowitz-TRnot erven getting closeAug 02 16:34
schestowitz-TRI am thinking, what if I just keep it on USB, which is slow, then backup to external sd card periodically?Aug 02 16:34
schestowitz-TRI think on / (not /home) the main missing stuff is the scripts for changing throttle mode for ipfsAug 02 16:34
schestowitz-TRfor the other files, I can resotr eto a recent snapshoAug 02 16:34
schestowitz-TRand then copy across some missing filesAug 02 16:34
schestowitz-TRI think this would be doableAug 02 16:34
Techrights-secboth could be backed up.  One option might be to have all four USB ports inAug 02 16:36
Techrights-secuse, but have two offline.  Two for the system and two for the data.  OrAug 02 16:36
Techrights-secjust two, one for the system+data + one offline as a mirror.  Or along thoseAug 02 16:36
Techrights-seclines, I wonder if it is possible to have a RAID1 system, as in the whole system?Aug 02 16:36
Techrights-secPreliminarily it looks like it is possible in general, the question is how andAug 02 16:36
Techrights-sechow, specifically on the RPi.Aug 02 16:36
Techrights-sechttps://forums.raspberrypi.com/viewtopic.php?t=306729Aug 02 16:36
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-forums.raspberrypi.com | Root partition on RAID1 storage - Raspberry Pi ForumsAug 02 16:36
schestowitz-TRlet's try going back to recoveryAug 02 16:56
schestowitz-TRso when I enter the card into the laptops there is /dev/sdbAug 02 16:56
schestowitz-TRbut not sdb1 etc.Aug 02 16:56
schestowitz-TRrunning the comemnts suggested gives no progressAug 02 16:56
schestowitz-TRmy last backup was 2 days agoAug 02 16:56
schestowitz-TRhowever it lacks very few system customisations, which we might have in git or homedir anywayAug 02 16:56
schestowitz-TRthis usb that's inside rtight now works with wifi and iptablesAug 02 16:56
Techrights-secackAug 02 16:56
Techrights-secfrom what I recall, USB sticks advertise a 5-year guaranteeAug 02 16:56
Techrights-secackAug 02 16:56
schestowitz-TRlike it did before those issues months agoAug 02 16:56
schestowitz-TRits load average, with ipfs, is high Aug 02 16:56
schestowitz-TRbut gemini and gemini proxy seem responsiveAug 02 16:56
schestowitz-TRI've move from one catastrophe to anotherAug 02 16:56
schestowitz-TRand today weon't feel productiveAug 02 16:56
schestowitz-TRif I stay with usb, I can copy in from the latest backupAug 02 16:56
schestowitz-TRthen copy across more recent irc logs and bulletinsAug 02 16:56
schestowitz-TRthen I'd have to redo some end of month tasks (not many)Aug 02 16:56
schestowitz-TReither way, I have some text (not important at all) that I added to the pi after backuposAug 02 16:56
schestowitz-TRthe important files were still open on other PCs, so nothing lst there..Aug 02 16:57
schestowitz-TRyour callAug 02 16:57
schestowitz-TRwhat to do now..Aug 02 16:57
schestowitz-TRI tried again to salvage something from sd... nowhere near closeAug 02 16:57
schestowitz-TRof course it would barely be detectedAug 02 16:57
schestowitz-TRI didn't try on rianne's pi Aug 02 16:57
schestowitz-TRbut I suppose the outcome would be the sameAug 02 16:57
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schestowitz-TRshould we stick with usb stick thenAug 02 17:10
schestowitz-TRand bring back in latest file?Aug 02 17:10
schestowitz-TRsome stuff will have been lost with the dead sd cardAug 02 17:10
schestowitz-TRbut nothing crucialAug 02 17:10
schestowitz-TRI can tighten the screws againAug 02 17:10
schestowitz-TRand restore it to a working stateAug 02 17:10
schestowitz-TRno more ds cardAug 02 17:10
Techrights-secprobably stay with USB stick from now on   Aug 02 17:10
schestowitz-TRexcept for clone backup?Aug 02 17:10
schestowitz-TRthat's what I shall do thenAug 02 17:11
schestowitz-TRexpect some gemini and proxy downtimes while I copy across home directoriesAug 02 17:11
Techrights-secackAug 02 17:21
Techrights-secanother option would be to make a read-only system for the OS and have theAug 02 17:21
Techrights-secdata on a second device.Aug 02 17:21
schestowitz-TRstill coyingAug 02 18:02
schestowitz-TRi/o is slow on the usbAug 02 18:02
schestowitz-TRfor backups I can do incremental overnightAug 02 18:02
schestowitz-TRI just don't have faith in sd cards anymore; you, kaniini, psydroid all witnessed the sameAug 02 18:02
schestowitz-TRso it would probably be a mistake to try again with oneAug 02 18:02
schestowitz-TReven if they're fastAug 02 18:02
Techrights-secprobably; although there are claims around the net that if you get a name-brandAug 02 18:03
Techrights-secmicroSD card it will last, I have not found that to be the case;Aug 02 18:03
schestowitz-TRi guess I can consiodere myself lucks as Aug 02 18:06
schestowitz-TRa) no serioust data lossAug 02 18:06
schestowitz-TRb) finally they seem to have found and fixed the cause of the outage (also the last one that causedAug 02 18:06
schestowitz-TRsimilar pi issuesAug 02 18:06
schestowitz-TRc) I'm off work till satAug 02 18:06
schestowitz-TRI'll take it slowly, please bear with me and try not to give me more tasksAug 02 18:06
schestowitz-TRI am taking things on a prioority basisAug 02 18:06
schestowitz-TRand my dad annoys me a lot Aug 02 18:06
schestowitz-TRalso I went to a soliciitor today for naturalisationAug 02 18:06
schestowitz-TRjst to avoids staying at homeAug 02 18:06
schestowitz-TRso now I'm drowning in thingsAug 02 18:06
schestowitz-TRI have some articles I'll try to publishAug 02 18:06
schestowitz-TRright now I post links sentAug 02 18:06
schestowitz-TRthen I need to clean rssAug 02 18:06
schestowitz-TRgemini and proxy work now,. are they respecsive from your end too?Aug 02 18:06
schestowitz-TRthat's more important to me than ipfsaAug 02 18:06
schestowitz-TRipfs is a lost cause for this scaleAug 02 18:06
Techrights-secexcellent news on all three points thenAug 02 18:06
Techrights-secnpAug 02 18:06
Techrights-secI'll stop nagging for a while ;)Aug 02 18:06
Techrights-secsolicitors are stressful eventsAug 02 18:06
Techrights-seccheckingAug 02 18:06
Techrights-secgemini worksAug 02 18:06
schestowitz-TRdo they work fast?Aug 02 18:07
schestowitz-TRI access them on lan so cannot judgeAug 02 18:07
schestowitz-TRI'll sync in the july 30 pages soonishAug 02 18:08
Techrights-secthe proxy works Aug 02 18:09
Techrights-seccongratulations on restoring the system, it's always a nail-biting experienceAug 02 18:09
Techrights-secyes quite snappyAug 02 18:09
Techrights-secI was surprised by how fast the proxy workedAug 02 18:09
schestowitz-TRof course the energy provider never keps the callback promisesAug 02 18:14
schestowitz-TRand was hard to reacheAug 02 18:14
schestowitz-TRven when you tell their machine it's an emergencyAug 02 18:14
schestowitz-TRbut I have confidence that now, unlike last time, there is actual a resolutionAug 02 18:14
schestowitz-TRmy last such outage (not fuse at home) was round 2005Aug 02 18:14
schestowitz-TRso I am not accustomed to this situationAug 02 18:14
schestowitz-TRlast such outage caused the pi to reboot and I ASSUME due to update (maybe NOT) it would Aug 02 18:14
schestowitz-TRnot have wifi, would not mount external drive, iptables stopped workingAug 02 18:14
schestowitz-TRIIRC (not sure) I all along knew we missed something in the latest clone (USB) and it was that Aug 02 18:14
schestowitz-TRtc-2 and tc-6 throttling things with permissions set in sudoers for geminiAug 02 18:14
schestowitz-TRbut after 2 months I realise I can just leave on ipfs when I'm afkAug 02 18:14
schestowitz-TRand wifi is no longer needed really, we changed location  Aug 02 18:14
schestowitz-TRmaybe we can move the gemini hosting to new techrights at some stage, at least it is RAIDed afaik (or guess)Aug 02 18:14
schestowitz-TRbut then against gemini scales OK for hosting from home, so it would be a regressionAug 02 18:15
Techrights-secackAug 02 18:23
schestowitz-TRthanks for the advice btw, very supportive when I needed itAug 02 18:25
schestowitz-TRwe'll cruise past this by tomorrow, the pi is not as reliable as a laptopAug 02 18:25
schestowitz-TRbut it has its many other advantagesAug 02 18:25
schestowitz-TR(the anger direacted is related to retiring early btw, but too personal for details)Aug 02 18:25
schestowitz-TRI have some good news re market share, epo not as urgent atmAug 02 18:25
Techrights-secnpAug 02 18:25
Techrights-secwhich market desktop or server?Aug 02 18:27
schestowitz-TRdraftAug 02 18:27
Techrights-secAndroid is the main system thereAug 02 18:29
Techrights-secackAug 02 18:29
schestowitz-TRi will try multikasking a bitAug 02 18:30
schestowitz-TRto feel more productiveAug 02 18:30
schestowitz-TRthe power of being effective is related to stress management and omposure I thinkAug 02 18:30
schestowitz-TRyesterday rianne said she never ever saw me cryAug 02 18:30
schestowitz-TRand then described siatuations (hypothetical) and said, "would you cry?"Aug 02 18:30
schestowitz-TRwe have our 10th anniverary in sept. Aug 02 18:30
schestowitz-TRmaybe she'll submit the docs by then, there's no hard deadlineAug 02 18:30
Techrights-seccongratulations, in advanceAug 02 18:39
Techrights-secit's supposedly an "aluminum/aluminium" anniversary?Aug 02 18:39
Techrights-secor tin?Aug 02 18:39
Techrights-secI hope the paperwork goes smoothlyAug 02 18:39
schestowitz-TRbirthday this month, but last one sucked due to covid restrictions and risksAug 02 18:40
schestowitz-TRbtw, I might leave the pi perpetually hooked to external diskAug 02 18:40
schestowitz-TRit can back up everything to it overnightAug 02 18:40
schestowitz-TRthe risk is system compromise, which unless I remove the wire is still a thingAug 02 18:40
schestowitz-TR3tb driveAug 02 18:40
schestowitz-TRI am still trying to make things robuest to failure and catastropheAug 02 18:41
schestowitz-TRdo you have a full backup of tx-new btw, inc. git?Aug 02 18:41
schestowitz-TRat least that annoying xfs issue is gone for goodAug 02 18:41
schestowitz-TRand afaik it led to no loss that I can detectAug 02 18:41
Techrights-secackAug 02 18:42
Techrights-secyou could do an "overlay filesystem" making it read-only for the system partition but that'd be a lot of fuss to update in that two reboots would probably beAug 02 18:42
Techrights-secnecessary each timeAug 02 18:42
Techrights-secno I do not have a full backup but I do have some tarballs of GitAug 02 18:42
schestowitz-TRok, good for my ptsd (ish) after today's nuisanceAug 02 18:43
schestowitz-TRdidn't take it very hardAug 02 18:43
schestowitz-TRmy main concern was catching up with all the tasks as eome pile up and tehre is downtimesAug 02 18:43
Techrights-secand I copied the database today but that's for the next phase not a backupAug 02 18:46
Techrights-secoh, i was too slow in commenting, but if another similar post is done, it Aug 02 18:46
Techrights-secwould be useful to name OEM lock-in specifically as a problem inhibiting Aug 02 18:46
Techrights-secgrowth of GNU/Linux on the desktop/laptop.  It already dominates the other    Aug 02 18:46
Techrights-secdomains: server, embedded, mobile, and supercomputerAug 02 18:46
Techrights-secThe posts are very convenient to read on GeminiAug 02 18:52
schestowitz-TRit is like reading email, except my email client is very bloatedAug 02 18:52
Techrights-secI have one account which has inflicted webmail on everybody and it is hellAug 02 18:53
Techrights-secwebmail is an unpleasant toyAug 02 18:53
schestowitz-TRit is ok when you travel and use some public terminalAug 02 18:53
schestowitz-TRbut not a replacment on one's nature workstationAug 02 18:53
Techrights-secIt's better than nothing but that still does not mean muchAug 02 18:56
Techrights-secCorrect, it's not a replacement for a proper client on a real workstationAug 02 18:56
Techrights-secOne of the reasons so many now hate e-mail is that they only experience it asAug 02 18:56
Techrights-seceither webmail or via phone.  The other is that Bill's armada of botnets Aug 02 18:56
Techrights-secspew spam 24/7, that's the technical side.  On the political side, politiciansAug 02 18:56
Techrights-secdecided ~ 20 years ago that spam was the way to go.  It was on the way outAug 02 18:56
Techrights-secuntil one key EU politician announced loudly that spam was "good for the   Aug 02 18:56
Techrights-sececonomy", she tried to walk back the comments a week later but took no realAug 02 18:56
Techrights-secaction to make good and the floodgates opened at that pointAug 02 18:56
Techrights-secSpam is also probably a cover for a lot of covert breachesAug 02 18:56
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