●● IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, August 03, 2022 ●● ● Aug 03 [00:35] *wallacer has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:48] *wallacer (~quassel@6bsu33ajs4zs4.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 03 [01:25] schestowitz-TR wanted to say thank you for the help yesterday. I'll rapidly recovering things here on the pi. [01:25] schestowitz-TR I've just updated for the SECOND time the post about Linux Today. The site seems defunct now. It 'competed' with TM. ● Aug 03 [02:55] schestowitz[TR2] Tue 08:20:23 matey second [02:55] schestowitz[TR2] Tue 08:20:25 matey coolest [02:55] schestowitz[TR2] Tue 08:20:27 matey program [02:55] schestowitz[TR2] Tue 08:20:29 matey everrrr [02:55] schestowitz[TR2] Tue 08:20:38 matey /me cant help it [02:55] schestowitz[TR2] Tue 08:21:42 matey three decades in the making, you know [02:55] schestowitz[TR2] Tue 08:22:15 matey of course no ones here, but i dont care [02:55] schestowitz[TR2] Tue 08:22:39 matey netsplit? [02:55] schestowitz[TR2] Tue 08:23:01 matey can that happen on a network (single server?) this small? [02:55] schestowitz[TR2] Tue 08:23:28 matey oh, maybe his power went out [02:55] schestowitz[TR2] Tue 09:04:53 matey not scully https://yewtu.be/watch?v=BeZ3QV_IJXc [02:55] schestowitz[TR2] Tue 09:05:23 matey this used to play on the radio every night in 199-*coughs* [02:55] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yewtu.be | Tara Kemp - Hold You Tight (Official Music Video) | Warner Records - Invidious [02:55] schestowitz[TR2] Tue 09:09:09 matey /me still thinks the AAAWWWAAAIIIIII part is funny [02:55] schestowitz[TR2] Tue 09:11:23 matey its a mix of production values youd never find today (too bad, even synth in the 90s had more dynamic range and depth) with a few things that are just comical [02:55] schestowitz[TR2] Tue 09:12:03 matey /me wonders if those 90s outfits from dance music will ever be back [02:55] schestowitz[TR2] Tue 09:12:36 matey if you want another example, check out what all the (male) dancers are wearing in "cream" by prince [02:55] schestowitz[TR2] Tue 09:13:13 matey silk shirts and trousers-- suspenders feature often [02:55] schestowitz[TR2] Tue 09:13:19 matey but somehow it looked "cool" [02:55] schestowitz[TR2] Tue 09:14:14 matey everyone spun around in them REALLY quickly-- then they would wave both their arms around not entirely like arsenio [02:55] schestowitz[TR2] Tue 09:14:20 matey ah, 90s [02:55] schestowitz[TR2] Tue 09:15:54 matey this isnt bad https://yewtu.be/watch?v=DNLkD8QEnAM [02:55] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yewtu.be | Lianne La Havas What You Don't Do (Official Music Video) - Invidious [02:55] schestowitz[TR2] Tue 09:16:38 matey /me REALLY wants to hear it without the range squished together though [02:55] schestowitz[TR2] Tue 11:26:43 britney inside the moho discontinuity, the hive mind super computer made of neanderthal brains plans the next battle with the reptilians on the surface of the earth... [02:56] schestowitz[TR2] Tue 12:16:49 britney the hive mind super computer is left wing and the reptilians are right wing [02:56] schestowitz[TR2] Tue 13:35:39 TR NEWS Games: Steam Deck, Nintendo Online, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167919 [02:56] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Steam Deck, Nintendo Online, and More | Tux Machines [02:56] schestowitz[TR2] Tue 13:35:48 TR NEWS Ubuntu 20.04 LTS Is Now Powered by Linux Kernel 5.15 LTS from Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167920 [02:56] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 20.04 LTS Is Now Powered by Linux Kernel 5.15 LTS from Ubuntu 22.04 LTS | Tux Machines [02:56] schestowitz[TR2] Tue 14:12:05 ulf weird, yesterday i attached the DVB-C cable receiver, and since this afternoon it is disconnected [02:56] schestowitz[TR2] Tue 14:13:05 ulf somewhat ironic, just this morning i began deleting more than 80 of the 100 tv stations from the list already, except for some documentary and news broadcasters [02:56] schestowitz[TR2] Tue 14:13:36 ulf leaving me with what's broadcasted OTA with DVB-T2 anyway [02:56] schestowitz[TR2] Tue 14:13:59 ulf i am wondering, how they could have noticed some cable-tv receiver was attached (no-internet that is) [02:56] schestowitz[TR2] Tue 14:14:27 ulf and, i am paying "cable fee" to the landlord, besides regular internet fee to the internet provider [02:56] schestowitz[TR2] Tue 14:15:42 ulf what's surprising me, is they had noticed somehow a DVB-C receiver was attached, although those officially got no transmission channel back to the provider [02:56] schestowitz[TR2] Tue 14:19:18 ulf the difference seems to be, with DVB-C some "private" tv broadcasters (mostly useless USA rubbish and series) do not require a separate decryption-card [02:56] schestowitz[TR2] Tue 14:19:52 ulf no idea whatever this is, or how it is implemented, with DVB-T2 those "private" broadcasters require decryption [02:56] schestowitz[TR2] Tue 14:20:32 ulf the "public" tv broadcasters do not require decryption, instead government forces all citizens to pay for the rubbish and propaganda, and it's broadcasted for free then [02:56] schestowitz[TR2] Tue 14:23:14 ulf i would be curious though, i they have noticed a DVB-C receiver was attached, i didn't connect this to the internet [02:56] schestowitz[TR2] Tue 14:23:21 ulf *how [02:56] schestowitz[TR2] Tue 14:24:02 ulf i did pay for this receiver with cash btw.; not with the mastercard since i am not keen on this thing being associated with my private data in any way [02:56] schestowitz[TR2] Tue 14:25:11 ulf within 24hours digital cable-tv disconnect [02:56] schestowitz[TR2] Tue 14:25:26 ulf would be curious though, why i have to pay additional "cable fee" to the landlord [02:56] schestowitz[TR2] Tue 14:48:02 TR NEWS "The Banana Pi BPI-Bit Lite is a development board following the BPI-Bit." https://linuxgizmos.com/bpi-bit-lite-is-an-educational-board-that-runs-on-arduino-webduino-and-micropython/ | Source: Linux Gizmos [02:56] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/bpi-bit-lite-is-an-educational-board-that-runs-on-arduino-webduino-and-micropython/ ) [02:56] schestowitz[TR2] Tue 14:49:36 TR NEWS "The OpenNCC NCB is an accelerated AI reference platform fully developed by EyeCloud.AI." https://linuxgizmos.com/openncc-ncb-an-open-source-alternative-to-intels-neural-compute-stick-2/ | Source: Linux Gizmos [02:56] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/openncc-ncb-an-open-source-alternative-to-intels-neural-compute-stick-2/ ) [02:57] schestowitz[TR2] Tue 14:50:17 TR NEWS "Livepatch is a perfect fit for our needs." https://ubuntu.com//blog/is-linux-secure | Source: Ubuntu [02:57] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Is Linux secure? | Ubuntu [02:57] schestowitz[TR2] Tue 14:50:48 schestowitz[TR2 ] testing: [02:57] schestowitz[TR2] Tue 14:51:19 schestowitz[TR2 ] we had a major outage here, and that seems to have killed the sd card on the pi [02:57] schestowitz[TR2] Tue 14:52:13 britney Major Outage [02:57] schestowitz[TR2] [02:57] schestowitz[TR2] ^^ missed during outage ● Aug 03 [03:58] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [03:58] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) ● Aug 03 [04:00] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [04:00] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@5tcc2vuaj9aks.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [04:04] schestowitz-TR with stress levels down a bit, I've just fixed the git syndication stuff, pushed to git [04:04] schestowitz-TR i/o is super slow on usb, but what matters most is, anything but ipfs will cope OK [04:04] schestowitz-TR I am looking into how to make storage more robuest, irc had chatter about how awful microsd is [04:25] *britney (~britney@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [04:45] schestowitz[TR2] also, in irc, some clues about what made me angry last week [04:46] schestowitz[TR2] people moan they do jobs they hate to feed kids who don't love them back [04:46] schestowitz[TR2] and suddently I'm the a-hole for not wanting anything to do with that ● Aug 03 [05:04] schestowitz-TR Wow, fifth time in just over a day. Webspam from ZDNet's sister site. What on Earth is going on here? Sunset for the site? Has 'Linux Today' sold its soul to diploma mills? http://techrights.org/2022/08/01/linux-today-zdnet/ [05:04] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Weird Editorial Choices in Linux Today These Past Few Hours (Updatedx3) | Techrights [05:06] schestowitz-TR LT (noty Torvalds, Linux Today) is "Done For"... I know what happens after these choices are made, like [05:06] schestowitz-TR FOSSForce... after its marketing spam as posts [05:06] schestowitz-TR eeking out a few $s on the way out ● Aug 03 [06:09] *britney has quit (connection closed) [06:10] *britney (~britney@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [06:32] *britney has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [06:43] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [06:43] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) ● Aug 03 [07:01] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@5tcc2vuaj9aks.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [07:01] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell [07:03] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [07:03] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [07:11] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [07:13] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [07:50] Techrights-sec gm [07:50] Techrights-sec np I hope today goes more smoothly [07:50] Techrights-sec yes, old Linux Today readers stop reading because of the spam and the selling [07:50] Techrights-sec out and no new readers turn up because it's not got that M$ "look and feel" ● Aug 03 [08:00] schestowitz-TR gm [08:00] schestowitz-TR catching up, brb [08:00] schestowitz-TR mea culpse [08:00] schestowitz-TR I cought this mistake [08:00] schestowitz-TR last time I tried to "correct" it it ended up with my PC attempting to upload 100MB files every 5 minutes, adding up a lot of rsync processes choking up [08:00] schestowitz-TR my connections [08:00] schestowitz-TR in this case, the mistkae was not constly [08:00] schestowitz-TR but it was noticed [08:00] schestowitz-TR had a long chat with rianne last night [08:00] schestowitz-TR turns out person C spoke to persons B and -- worse -- A [08:00] schestowitz-TR causing prblems I predicted [08:00] schestowitz-TR but person C was asked not to talk about it [08:00] schestowitz-TR thought it was likely ineditable [08:00] schestowitz-TR person R (hi) should learn to talk to people a lot less [08:01] schestowitz-TR person A was told by A [08:01] schestowitz-TR *by B [08:01] schestowitz-TR and a little conspiracy developed [08:01] schestowitz-TR people talki about ideas... talk about events... talk about people [08:01] schestowitz-TR person R is not a kid, person r is 40 now [08:01] schestowitz-TR *mea culpa (typo earlier) [08:01] schestowitz-TR today's plan is to catch up and organise to write about topics I saw and lacked time to cover [08:01] schestowitz-TR while in the background copying back a lot of file using rsync, at a pace (it seems) of about 1 GB per 5 hours (!) [08:01] schestowitz-TR yesterday I only posted ione new item in TM-new and in TM-old I did many "leftovers" due to other priorities [08:01] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [08:26] schestowitz-TR [08:04] Two companies that ought not exist at all https://www.theverge.com/2022/8/2/23288589/microsoft-outlook-app-crash-uber-email-receipts Outlook = malware platform [08:26] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theverge.com | Microsoft Outlook crashing when viewing Uber receipt emails - The Verge [08:27] Techrights-sec ack [08:27] schestowitz-TR btw, how many lines can you scroll back? I've long wondered that [08:27] schestowitz-TR just checked git log for changes you're making (many this morning) [08:27] schestowitz-TR I now have three terminals in which to observe changes [08:29] schestowitz-TR when I said "scroll back" I actually meant, how many lines visible in ytalk? because I don't want to spill out of view [08:29] schestowitz-TR here, it is about 30 lines for you, 30 for me [08:29] schestowitz-TR as in the past the smaller terminals were not always sufficient [08:29] Techrights-sec checking [08:29] Techrights-sec 23 [08:31] schestowitz-TR that's good [08:31] schestowitz-TR in the past I'd refrain from talking overnight even when important things happen for fear of overrunning the buffer [08:31] schestowitz-TR and sometimes I'd latrer paste "earlier" stuff again, just in case... [08:31] schestowitz-TR I've just cl;eaned my feeds again [08:31] schestowitz-TR india market share for gnu/linux now 7% [08:31] schestowitz-TR (estimate) [08:31] schestowitz-TR "tech" media will never mention this, too busy sucking the balls of "Sayta" [08:31] schestowitz-TR *Satya [08:33] schestowitz-TR (to self: trolls will say it's racist and sexist, though women too suck balls and indians are now officially the planet's "majority") [08:33] schestowitz-TR (and it is a metaphor a lot older than me) [08:33] Techrights-sec the M$ worship has been gradually increasing over the years. It's to the [08:33] Techrights-sec point where mainstream news articles from 20 years ago would be dismissed [08:33] Techrights-sec as "bashing" if there were republished today. [08:33] Techrights-sec ack [08:36] schestowitz-TR yes, I just posted a rant about IBM in the main channel [08:36] schestowitz-TR they too are manipulative with the media [08:36] schestowitz-TR I'm not old enough to know how IBM was when it was "market leader" [08:36] Techrights-sec ack [08:36] schestowitz-TR but I can imagine Microsoft inherited -- maybe even repurpsoed the same agencies/people -- those tactics [08:36] schestowitz-TR reward/publishment... even bribes [08:36] schestowitz-TR atm scrollback in gemini won't work yet, not until I copy across all of ~gemini dir from july 31 backup [08:36] schestowitz-TR tech issues are connected to media issues and, tracing it back to causes, it's about financial disparity [08:36] schestowitz-TR journalism was not meant to be "for sale", but that's where we are [08:40] schestowitz-TR thanks for fixing the "bug" of me pasting in the wrong text as a slug [08:40] schestowitz-TR resulting in a very long filename [08:40] schestowitz-TR and colours would help too [08:40] schestowitz-TR sometimes it's hard to say what's an error and what's just the program being verbose [08:42] Techrights-sec most of journalism having been bought and sold is a direct offshoot of [08:42] Techrights-sec media consolidation rules set in place by the Reagan administration and [08:42] Techrights-sec worsened further over the subsequent decades [08:42] Techrights-sec np [08:42] Techrights-sec thanks for finding the bug, normally I check bounds for variables but there [08:42] Techrights-sec are just so many variables ... [08:42] Techrights-sec The warnings and errors are more clearly marked now too. Though [08:42] Techrights-sec there is still a little unnecessary output from db actions. [08:45] schestowitz-TR I am still thinking long and hard of how to manage data on the raspi, like taking particular account out to external storage [08:45] schestowitz-TR ipfs does many disk operations all the time unless I stopped it (it was stopped for 2 months before the initial outage and the second; [08:45] schestowitz-TR the good thing is that the second resulted in propr action and proper resolution... albeit wa s alot longer) [08:46] schestowitz-TR guru3d.com is a dead site, defunct. Gulag Noise should delist it. This is like the TENTH time I see such spam in 2 weeks. https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/ad-linux-will-be-fasterpay-just-13-for-lifetime-license-microsoft-windows-10-to-play-everything%EF%BC%81.html [08:46] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.guru3d.com | Ad: Linux will be faster, pay just $13 for lifetime license Microsoft Windows 10 to play everything [08:49] schestowitz-TR (context: once a day i sweep gulag noise search for "linux" to see if there is a domain I still miss from my [08:49] schestowitz-TR rss feeds, just to make sure I don't skip something very important; at the moment it's very rare that I find [08:49] schestowitz-TR in that ddaily sweep anything I didn't see already. some sites that lack rss feeds I check manually every sunday... [08:49] schestowitz-TR I have list of a particular url in them, like search for "linux", sorted by date) [08:49] schestowitz-TR the motivation is to bypass the middleman. lxer and linuxtoday (LT) became very low-grade middlemen too... [08:49] schestowitz-TR they're neglected whoever was entrusted to inform their remaining readers [08:50] Techrights-sec ack [08:54] schestowitz https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/finland/#monthly-200901-202208 [08:54] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-gs.statcounter.com | Desktop Operating System Market Share Finland | Statcounter Global Stats [08:56] schestowitz-TR https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/finland/#monthly-200901-202208 [08:56] schestowitz-TR 20%?? either sample size too poor or was poor before and improving [08:56] schestowitz-TR but anyway, that seems to be the trend in most countries [08:56] schestowitz-TR it's always a chance to bring up the real purpose of "secure" boot [08:56] schestowitz-TR while GNOME/ICBM cautions users that having NO secure boot is BAD [08:56] Techrights-sec ack [08:56] Techrights-sec good riddance but will any mainstream news pick up on the trend? ● Aug 03 [09:00] schestowitz-TR don't call it [09:00] schestowitz-TR 1) maintream MEDIA [09:00] schestowitz-TR 2) of mainstream NEWS [09:00] schestowitz-TR that can lead to CONFUSION ;-) [09:00] schestowitz-TR they're shit PR agents, like the ones who burn MSFT whistleblowers [09:00] schestowitz-TR I still have 2 more parts in that series [09:00] schestowitz-TR when I'm done transfering ~gemini (been going on since around midnight) maybe I'll make a separate device for /home/[ipfs person] [09:00] schestowitz-TR and then adjust some things [09:00] schestowitz-TR atm I think I'd just leave ipfs off except when adding new objects [09:06] Techrights-sec true [09:06] Techrights-sec the entity names remain from 40 - 60 years ago but the goals and activities [09:06] Techrights-sec have changed 180 degrees [09:09] schestowitz-TR ah, ok, i just noticed that adding a node re ibm fluff resulted in just the db update [09:09] schestowitz-TR as tm-extract-popsts-sql demands an argument, which is not supplier in the dependants [09:09] schestowitz-TR *supplied [09:09] schestowitz-TR re media, I realise now Mrius loathes the corrupt media a lot more than me [09:09] schestowitz-TR (he hates Microsofters too but rarely mentiond them) [09:09] schestowitz-TR maybe partly shaped by his experiences of what hapened in softpedia after many years there [09:10] schestowitz-TR he brought them the most traffic, he said, but microsofters put an end to it [09:10] schestowitz-TR in the process they aldo doomed softpedia [09:10] schestowitz-TR you won't see that site anymore [09:10] schestowitz-TR at one point that site hosted my software [09:10] schestowitz-TR but at one point they made "cuts" and removed it [09:10] schestowitz-TR softpedia was originalyl a site to download SOFTware binaries from [09:10] schestowitz-TR I contacted marius back then [09:10] schestowitz-TR he said they only keps very popular software [09:10] schestowitz-TR now even the "news" section is dead [09:10] schestowitz-TR it was doing great before the "softers" got involevd [09:10] schestowitz-TR and first weaponised that "Linux" sectionAGAINST Linux [09:10] schestowitz-TR then gave up [09:10] schestowitz-TR realised it was not the right audience [09:16] schestowitz-TR I used to do a lot of c coding, but it takes a long time to work with a compiler and build GUIs, nowadays given the limited appeal [09:16] schestowitz-TR or number of users i just hack things in bash if possible [09:16] schestowitz-TR in academia this is very common, they dub it "prototyping" and often use - CHOKE CHOKE -- matlab [09:16] schestowitz-TR mathworks wanted to hire me when I was a student, offered 120k a year way back then (maybe 200k by today's money) but [09:16] schestowitz-TR I was already keen on staying a student and/or doing activism [09:17] schestowitz-TR (iirc, matlab itself is written in c) [09:17] schestowitz-TR the gui parts used to reuse java, maybe not anymore [09:17] schestowitz-TR matlab is bloated kludge [09:17] schestowitz-TR octave had a new rel;ease this past week, I put that in tuxzmachines-old [09:17] schestowitz-TR i think my most popular yolutube vid is one of the octave tutorials [09:17] schestowitz-TR C takes a LOT of work [09:17] schestowitz-TR for many reasons [09:17] schestowitz-TR bash starts with you running some command, then improving and improving, then echo x > somefile.sh & chmod 700 *.sh [09:17] schestowitz-TR with matlab it's a bit like bash except you need a NETWORK licence and gigabyes ofkludge and endless RAM [09:17] schestowitz-TR and then it might still crash ^_^ [09:19] Techrights-sec yes, matlab is too common [09:19] Techrights-sec Octave is ok but considered a little behing matlab [09:20] schestowitz-TR I was #1 in the world for my matlab contrib (free software modules) at one point [09:20] schestowitz-TR and then wanted me to write a book [09:20] schestowitz-TR or course those f**ers later relicensed all my code as BSD [09:20] schestowitz-TR and if I said no, they're just remove all my work [09:20] schestowitz-TR a form of blackmail [09:20] schestowitz-TR by corporate hawks [09:20] schestowitz-TR I moved to octave [09:20] schestowitz-TR later I quit universities [09:20] schestowitz-TR low pay, too much work [09:20] schestowitz-TR some profs wear multiple hats, like part time GAFAM, part time teachin [09:20] schestowitz-TR obv. conflict of interest, but that's 21st century [09:21] Techrights-sec C takes a lot of work, some skill and time, and a lot of experience to know [09:21] Techrights-sec which libraries are which [09:21] Techrights-sec ack [09:21] schestowitz-TR uni sys admins are not sys admins anymore [09:21] schestowitz-TR they are people who cannot be hired anywhere else [09:21] schestowitz-TR clueless shits [09:21] schestowitz-TR and they lost me some data and code [09:21] schestowitz-TR without even notifiying me [09:21] schestowitz-TR wiped the whole machine after it got cracked [09:21] schestowitz-TR said "sorry" [09:21] schestowitz-TR after they deleted the whole lot [09:21] Techrights-sec ack [09:25] schestowitz-TR maybe if they paid better, they'd have more than a cult of rejects and weirdoes [09:25] schestowitz-TR later they can use that incompetence as a pretext for further defunding these [09:25] schestowitz-TR institutions [09:25] schestowitz-TR saying they produce little of actual value (which is partly true BTW) [09:25] schestowitz-TR I peer reviewed some papers from poser and frauds [09:25] schestowitz-TR likely fake data and false claims [09:25] schestowitz-TR but good luck proving it [09:25] schestowitz-TR the review goes by word of mouth [09:25] schestowitz-TR nobody reproduces anything as data and code remain proprietary [09:25] schestowitz-TR and besides, who even has the time and skill? [09:25] schestowitz-TR so later, IF AT ALL (maybe a decade later), they remove "discredited" papers [09:25] schestowitz-TR after the frauds got their tenures and cash [09:25] schestowitz-TR cash to carry on with their frauds [09:25] schestowitz-TR reminds me of Holmes from Theranos [09:27] schestowitz-TR the worst aspect is that your own implementations needs to compete with frauds and fakes [09:27] schestowitz-TR so unless you too cheat and fake, your work won't seem as impressive [09:27] schestowitz-TR so you need to compromise integrity to "progress" [09:27] schestowitz-TR and also submit the same paper to 10 different cionferences weith different titles and picture [09:27] schestowitz-TR to seem like you're a prolific publisher, not a one-trick pony who harpa about the exact same [09:27] schestowitz-TR thing for 10 years unless the audience gets bored [09:27] schestowitz-TR and then you publish the same thing under the name of slave, slave, slave and you [09:27] schestowitz-TR slave = phs student [09:27] schestowitz-TR *phd [09:32] Techrights-sec they are microsoft resellers of the lowest order [09:32] Techrights-sec what's sad is that in decades past, universities were research institutions [09:32] Techrights-sec and leaders; LDAP, Kerberos, and AFS are some shining examples; LDAP and [09:32] Techrights-sec Kerberos are still in use; (Open)AFS has not been succeeded rather the opposite [09:32] Techrights-sec and file sharing is about at the level ofthe 1980s these days albeit via [09:32] Techrights-sec a web "interface" [09:32] Techrights-sec acck [09:32] Techrights-sec yes there is also a perverse cycle regarding the ass-kissing that goes on [09:32] Techrights-sec to get tenure; it involves the publishers and prevents bootstrapping openaccess [09:32] Techrights-sec publishing; those with tenure don't have much time and can't stray from the [09:32] Techrights-sec "high impact" propietary journals and, worse, are supervising gradual students [09:32] Techrights-sec who are following the same footsteps into the same trap; a few universities [09:32] Techrights-sec are eliminating "impact factor" from the hiring process [09:32] Techrights-sec as an experiment [09:32] schestowitz-TR "high-impact" journal = gateway cartel [09:32] schestowitz-TR appease the cartel, get grants [09:32] schestowitz-TR the grants are given on that basis [09:32] schestowitz-TR in surrey uni they told us, "publish or perish" [09:32] schestowitz-TR they didn't mean publish software [09:32] schestowitz-TR this was the cs school in surrey [09:32] schestowitz-TR writing words about codecs [09:32] schestowitz-TR instead of codecs [09:32] schestowitz-TR proprietary with sofware patents [09:32] schestowitz-TR they were part of the MP* cartel [09:32] schestowitz-TR (part of = had patents) [09:39] Techrights-sec yes, cartel is the right word [09:39] Techrights-sec and they are one of the several hostile groups now controling the universities [09:39] Techrights-sec from outside and, soon, within [09:39] schestowitz-TR in usenet I knew someone who could explain the cartel very well [09:39] schestowitz-TR like the flow of money [09:39] schestowitz-TR and the lkibraries' role [09:39] schestowitz-TR it's like a sort of symparmid scheme [09:39] schestowitz-TR but I cannot explain it well, or barely [09:39] schestowitz-TR sprinter verlag etc. [09:39] schestowitz-TR *springer [09:39] schestowitz-TR they also use us as slaves, reviewing, editing, writing their "papers" [09:39] schestowitz-TR 'their' [09:39] schestowitz-TR while lecturers are paid like a junior programmer [09:39] schestowitz-TR and work outside 9-5 too [09:39] schestowitz-TR but worse of all are the unpaid slaves [09:39] schestowitz-TR the students [09:39] schestowitz-TR some pay tuition fees and usually they pay for their naccomodation too [09:39] schestowitz-TR not even 18th centurey US slavery was that oppressive [09:41] Techrights-sec the libraries have been all but eliminated. Yes the physical structures are [09:41] Techrights-sec still standing but the goals, service, and philosophy they once had ad [09:41] Techrights-sec as stewards of scholarly communication are all but gone. [09:41] Techrights-sec btw changes to the tm-add-entry-sql.pl script, but the /var/www/tuxmachines.org [09:41] Techrights-sec clone still does not get updated automatically even if the same scrip [09:41] Techrights-sec succeeds in firing off an MQTT notification [09:42] Techrights-sec if you mean students, most pay for the tuition and their accommodation, [09:42] Techrights-sec support (aside from parents) is very rare; another gift of the Reagan era [09:42] Techrights-sec The student loans have become an entire industry in and of themselves [09:42] Techrights-sec It's related to wage slavery which has the advantage over the 19th century [09:42] Techrights-sec and earlier slavery in that slaves are no longer owned but rented or leased [09:42] Techrights-sec and thus even more disposable [09:47] schestowitz-TR thanks for working on the cms [09:47] schestowitz-TR rianne just passed by, I told her that while switching from old to new needs to be done very very carefully [09:47] schestowitz-TR as soon as gemini works it can be advertised as there is no "old" gemini [09:47] schestowitz-TR and thus it's a new service [09:47] schestowitz-TR planet gemini is offline unless all the files are copied, hopefully by this evening [09:47] schestowitz-TR then I have some work to do on the cron jabs and adjusting things to how they used to be [09:47] schestowitz-TR ipfs will be on hold until I figure out how where to put this 6-7 GB of junk [09:47] schestowitz-TR for just 1 GB of ACTUAL data or 700mb, 1:10 ratio data:blockchain shiut [09:47] schestowitz-TR at least we can joke that techrights truly embraced "web 3.0" [09:47] schestowitz-TR I got some emails from these posers [09:47] schestowitz-TR because we mention ipfs [09:47] schestowitz-TR they don't even know the difference between net and web [09:47] schestowitz-TR it's more like net 3.0 and not http/3 [09:47] schestowitz-TR web 2.0 = javascript everywhere, not just css [09:48] schestowitz-TR aka "ajax" [09:48] schestowitz-TR we stopped having ajax and servers, not it's "platforms" on "clowns" [09:50] Techrights-sec ok the gemini part is on the way, after some other loose ends are tied up [09:50] Techrights-sec by the way, the RPi OS cannot boot to RAID1 or any other RAID, so backing up [09:50] Techrights-sec or cloning the USB stick on a frequent basis is the way to go. For that, [09:50] Techrights-sec it'd be cleanest to then have the system components on one partition and have [09:50] Techrights-sec the data separate [09:50] Techrights-sec A UPS would be the way to go, if one wishes to be more formal about a solution [09:50] Techrights-sec ack [09:50] Techrights-sec though I know nothing of IPFS except that it seems to appear like it does not [09:50] Techrights-sec scale well [09:51] Techrights-sec CSS is great, at least up to 2.0, but javascript has always been a pox [09:51] schestowitz-TR css became bad because it does too much and thus few can keep up [09:51] schestowitz-TR now css includes image manipulation [09:51] schestowitz-TR I could not believe when I saw an article in linuxhint showing me that now even image processing [09:51] schestowitz-TR is done by css [09:51] schestowitz-TR no wonder browsers became so bloated, code and ram-wise [09:51] schestowitz-TR it's like opening photoshop on top of a browser [09:51] schestowitz-TR and the only reasons many sites do not adopt such css is "old code" [09:51] schestowitz-TR or visitors with "old browser" (or "not chrome") [09:52] Techrights-sec If done correctly CSS degrades gracefully, but that leaves off much of the [09:52] Techrights-sec CSS 3.0 gimmicks which are poorly thought out and badly designed even if [09:52] Techrights-sec those poor thoughs and bad designs are skillfully implemented [09:54] schestowitz-TR a) works best with -> [09:54] schestowitz-TR b) please download chrome -> [09:54] schestowitz-TR 3) you're not using a supported browser, no nservice for you (e.g. banks) [09:54] schestowitz-TR no matter if it degracges gracefully [09:54] schestowitz-TR they don't want support calls [09:54] schestowitz-TR "I cannot book a train ticket, yes, I use [some browser the support rep in a sweaty sweatshop does not have in her/his script" [09:54] Techrights-sec yep [09:54] Techrights-sec Baker is helping Google line up their shots for finalizing the capture [09:54] Techrights-sec of the WWW standards [09:54] Techrights-sec ack [09:55] schestowitz-TR bbl circa 1 hor, exercise (wife insists, I didn't even sleep well) [09:55] schestowitz-TR and diet was terrible [09:55] schestowitz-TR this is how people die in their 60w [09:55] schestowitz-TR *60s [09:56] Techrights-sec ack ● Aug 03 [10:44] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [10:46] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:49] *britney (~britney@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [10:56] schestowitz-TR thanks for the links [10:56] schestowitz-TR 2 months ago I spoke tyo the energy suppler's person who had been assigned to me [10:56] schestowitz-TR and marked our home as hign priority [10:56] schestowitz-TR maybe that's why we got ourt power back faster then other people on the block [10:56] schestowitz-TR this and other factors, like asking for a generator twice over the phones [10:56] schestowitz-TR with that guy, I spoke about UPS [10:56] schestowitz-TR I said, only if the outages become a frequent thing, I'll get one for the router and the pi [10:56] schestowitz-TR which are nearby anyhow [10:56] schestowitz-TR but outages are rare here, though ime when they start happening they can happen again and again until [10:56] schestowitz-TR the energy supplier can be arsed to actually investigate and fix the issues [10:56] schestowitz-TR rianne's aunt has very frequent outages [10:56] schestowitz-TR not sure if it's in her home or upstream [10:56] schestowitz-TR so rianne's connection was up and down [10:56] schestowitz-TR maybe due to flooding, she said [10:56] schestowitz-TR but she's at work most of the time [10:56] schestowitz-TR so cannot be bothered to pursue a solution [10:56] schestowitz-TR meanwhile appliances can break over time, so the cost of ignoring the issue can increas [10:56] schestowitz-TR the latest two pi issues happened after outages [10:56] schestowitz-TR but I doubt somewhat those were relatted to it [10:56] schestowitz-TR I spoke about price of UPS and condityions upon which to acquire one [10:56] schestowitz-TR we were advised the same in 2005 when my hall of residence started having outages (maybe 5-7 in total before they resolved the issue) [10:56] schestowitz-TR they suggested getting a ups for computers, students were not happy [10:56] schestowitz-TR since then I experienced no outages upstream... until this year [10:56] schestowitz-TR so a ups would be past its lifetime by now [10:56] schestowitz-TR i.e. waste of money [10:56] schestowitz-TR idea: make a pi that can extract enough power from several usb ports or similar [10:56] schestowitz-TR to borrow some life -- enough to safely reboot from a laptop that already has high impedance resistance [10:56] schestowitz-TR (the good ones anyway, old ones before they make cheap disposable "laptops") ● Aug 03 [11:09] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:16] Techrights-sec They have PoE (power over Ethernet) but that requires a special adapter. [11:16] Techrights-sec I think the Zero series can be powered by USB [11:18] schestowitz-TR how about an exercise cbicycle that hooks up to it when you know outage is imminent ;-) [11:18] schestowitz-TR gives you enough time to finish work and maybe shutdown cleanly ;-) [11:29] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@74sqwmp29tick.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:34] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [11:40] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@5tcc2vuaj9aks.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [11:40] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@freenode-rmogvn.g0d7.dtdf.mc4289.IP) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 03 [12:12] Techrights-sec the trick is to have some hardware upstream which alerts the device to the [12:12] Techrights-sec outage while releasing enough stored current to keep it running while it [12:12] Techrights-sec shuts down. ie. a UPS of some sort. The stream of electricity itself [12:12] Techrights-sec is either on or off (or too low) so it itself does not contain any information [12:12] Techrights-sec necessary to trigger a graceful shutdown, there's no avoiding batteries of [12:12] Techrights-sec some kind [12:15] schestowitz-TR if the ups kicks in but you're afk/asleep/away from home, the devices you protect might die abruptly anyay [12:15] schestowitz-TR and if it's not a "smart" thing, you might not even know [12:15] schestowitz-TR the first time the pi OS died it was not reboot/outage rleated [12:15] schestowitz-TR just wear [12:15] schestowitz-TR and I got cluess before powering it down and making a backup beforehand [12:15] schestowitz-TR we took that opportunity to upgrade the OS [12:15] schestowitz-TR this time a chance to move to USB and peripheral storage [12:30] Techrights-sec ack [12:30] Techrights-sec as far as I can tell LUKS and Rsync can't really work on the same files, [12:30] Techrights-sec especially when the files are large [12:31] schestowitz-TR ~gemini still processing [12:31] schestowitz-TR this is like 50 times slower than it was before [12:31] schestowitz-TR but you say gemini and gemprox work fast at your end [12:31] schestowitz-TR and I don't think the other services would be imperiled by it [12:32] Techrights-sec the UPS usually have a lead which goes either to GPIO or Serial and then [12:32] Techrights-sec interface with a daemon regarding status and the daemon decides when to [12:32] Techrights-sec power down [12:32] schestowitz-TR if it's not systemd, it might even power down properly at the end without user intervention after 20 minds [12:32] schestowitz-TR *mins [12:34] Techrights-sec systemd can be deadly slow like that, other times it can fail to allow booting [12:34] Techrights-sec to complete [12:35] schestowitz-TR last year kaniini had to bypass thing just to bootstrap techrights [12:36] schestowitz-TR open microsoft account and report bug to microsoft systemd [12:36] schestowitz-TR they might fix it in the next version, Pro Deluxe Edition [12:36] schestowitz-TR the one that does not send your private keys to the clown [12:36] Techrights-sec yep not a surprise [12:39] schestowitz-TR booting should be simple, runlevels 0-6 and just run the darn things, evewn in parallel for some things [12:39] schestowitz-TR developing this from scratch seem unecesaary, to put it likely... [12:39] schestowitz-TR and then running the file system's home dir as a "Service" [12:39] schestowitz-TR which means an additional level of failure [12:39] schestowitz-TR riright now, with lennart working tot Bill and Lolita, there is AN INCENTIVE [12:39] schestowitz-TR to NOT make it reliable [12:39] schestowitz-TR or onl;y make it reliable on "Azure"-brasnded clowns [12:39] schestowitz-TR "IP aAdvantage" -> "Linux Advantage" [12:40] Techrights-sec open-rc seems rather good, sysvinit was fine too within limits [12:40] Techrights-sec it was never about solving a technical need but about a political need, [12:40] Techrights-sec specifically about decommidifyingf Linux [12:40] Techrights-sec That looks like one of the directions they might try to take [12:40] Techrights-sec Canonical (Shuttleworth) is sucking up to them too, even though (or maybe [12:40] Techrights-sec because) it means the end of Canonical [12:41] psydruid I upgraded my mom's laptop to Kubuntu 22.04 a few days ago [12:42] schestowitz-TR iirc, some time recently canonical said it was profitable at long last [12:42] schestowitz-TR but if you look at the Ubuntu Blog you see what they are selling [12:42] schestowitz-TR the same shit as SUSE (SAP and other crap) [12:42] schestowitz-TR they are becoming resellers [12:42] schestowitz-TR and making a distro to them is like a side project [12:42] schestowitz-TR SUSE even called it "tumbleweed" [12:42] schestowitz-TR which, we know what it means... [12:42] schestowitz-TR iirc, greg k-h came up with the name [12:42] schestowitz-TR o the idea in general [12:42] schestowitz-TR psydruid: let me guess [12:42] psydruid On the next storage upgrade I'll replace it with Debian [12:42] schestowitz-TR the demo did not go as expected [12:42] schestowitz-TR psydruid: in debian 10 kde is good [12:42] schestowitz-TR not sure about 11 [12:42] psydruid Well, I had already set up everything and the upgrade went well [12:43] schestowitz-TR as we use 11 mostly for monitoring and servers, with raspis [12:43] schestowitz-TR two pis [12:43] schestowitz-TR but Debian lost its kde packagers [12:43] schestowitz-TR they bullied him [12:43] psydruid I just didn't want to bother changing the operating system now [12:43] schestowitz-TR over some "diversity" fiction [12:43] psydruid Oh, I see [12:43] schestowitz-TR psydruid: btw, did you see [12:43] *schestowitz-TR gets links [12:44] schestowitz https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/india/#monthly-200901-202208 [12:44] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-gs.statcounter.com | Desktop Operating System Market Share India | Statcounter Global Stats [12:44] schestowitz 7% for gnu/linux [12:44] schestowitz so we need 'secure' boot now [12:44] schestowitz to keep people 'safe' [12:44] schestowitz from cancer [sic] [12:45] Techrights-sec that may be good thing or not depending on the details [12:45] Techrights-sec [12:45] Techrights-sec ack [12:45] Techrights-sec or Devuan, maybe ... [12:46] psydruid I don't think 'secure' boot is going to help this time [12:46] psydruid the cat is already out of the bag [12:46] schestowitz-TR we need to fight like hell [12:46] schestowitz-TR I broke my promise [12:47] schestowitz-TR said I'd bring it up every day [12:47] schestowitz-TR but two major disasters here yesterday [12:47] psydruid and more countries than ever are moving to "domestic" hardware and software [12:50] psydruid I'm not going to fight x86 and 'secure' boot [12:53] *britney has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:56] schestowitz-TR USA will try to compel 6-eyes to put this stuff on everything [12:56] schestowitz-TR like psp and me passed as trustzone to arm (uk/jp ● Aug 03 [13:02] psydruid that means it's time to put an end to the USA as a "superpower" [13:09] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [13:09] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [13:41] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [13:43] Techrights-sec ack [13:52] schestowitz-TR draft [13:52] schestowitz-TR I can add more links [13:52] schestowitz-TR psydruid: that would solve many other problems [13:52] Techrights-sec ack [13:52] Techrights-sec checking ... [13:52] Techrights-sec The graph is missing the key or legend [13:52] Techrights-sec if you can squeeze in an obsevation that these behaviors are not new, and they [13:52] Techrights-sec are not only decades old, but that they have not abated over the decades and [13:52] Techrights-sec only resort to marketing spin to obscure their anticompetitive behaviors [13:53] schestowitz-TR I will improve clarity, working etc. [13:53] schestowitz-TR /7*(Woding [13:53] schestowitz-TR *wording ● Aug 03 [14:25] Techrights-sec thanks [14:28] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [14:28] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [14:29] schestowitz-TR I've nearly cleaned the feeds, later I'llwipe the Linux feeds and then, I hope, start to finalise things with the pi [14:29] schestowitz-TR downtime will be needed to reassemble bits [14:29] schestowitz-TR riuanne uses sd card only as clone of her pi400 system [14:29] Techrights-sec :) [14:29] Techrights-sec ack [14:29] Techrights-sec regular cloning of the system seems to be the recommended practice [14:32] schestowitz-TR I cloned the whole partition esp. after major changes outside home [14:32] schestowitz-TR before the first outage I'd do a full dump to external hdd (1 gb tar files) [14:32] schestowitz-TR periodically [14:32] schestowitz-TR after that rsync to laptop as the "old" system could no longer even mount the drive [14:32] schestowitz-TR and I didn't reboot it for 2 months, assuming it would fix nothing and maybe make matters worse [14:32] schestowitz-TR it takes about 5 mins to boot fully from USB [14:32] schestowitz-TR with sd card inserted less than 30 secs [14:43] Techrights-sec ack [14:45] schestowitz-TR will go rest shortly [14:45] schestowitz-TR I estimatre the gemini transfer should last till evening [14:45] schestowitz-TR maybe ipfs account/user directory can be made a hardlink for some path like /media/something [14:45] schestowitz-TR but even then, the issue would be causing wear on a backup drive [14:45] schestowitz-TR maybe I shoulsd purchase another usb stick? [14:45] schestowitz-TR rianne is about to go to town [14:46] Techrights-sec ok, about to finish preliminary gemini support for tm-new [14:46] Techrights-sec directories have to be symlinks [14:46] Techrights-sec but it would work [14:46] Techrights-sec or the directory itself could be used as the automatic mount point for [14:46] Techrights-sec that particular removeable device [14:50] schestowitz-TR thanks for adding gemini to TM [14:50] schestowitz-TR it's the first of its kind (scope) [14:50] schestowitz-TR is it conventional to attach two usb disks to a pi [14:50] schestowitz-TR one for base OS [14:50] schestowitz-TR and another userspace? [14:50] schestowitz-TR one can be used to maintain a backup of the other, to some extent (improvised) [14:50] schestowitz-TR so if one stick fails the other has a recent copy) [14:50] schestowitz-TR it would boost recovery time from failures [14:50] schestowitz-TR btw, the latest nodes I added to tm-new are not showing up because of the changes of interfaces to [14:50] schestowitz-TR perl files, but that's not urgent because we still test and simulate [14:50] schestowitz-TR the files uploaded via images can also be served, maybe as softlinks, over gemini [14:50] schestowitz-TR for now I add images manually with wget in Featured [14:50] Techrights-sec btw on the RPi: [14:50] Techrights-sec """ [14:50] Techrights-sec Wi-Fi is currently blocked by rfkill. [14:50] Techrights-sec Use raspi-config to set the country before use. [14:50] Techrights-sec """ [14:50] Techrights-sec np [14:50] Techrights-sec the conversion from XHTML to Gemtext is rather primitive, of necessity [14:50] Techrights-sec yes that would work [14:50] Techrights-sec checking [14:52] schestowitz-TR I disabled wifi yesterday so that it uses ethernet even when wireless is available [14:52] schestowitz-TR the router would assign another name and IP if it connects over wifi [14:52] schestowitz-TR and that would fuck up lots of things, treated like another device [14:59] Techrights-sec add-and-refresh-from-db.sh [14:59] Techrights-sec refresh-site-from-db.sh [14:59] Techrights-sec update-and-refresh-from-db.sh [14:59] Techrights-sec ^ these all work [14:59] Techrights-sec having two network interfaces can confuse things anyway ● Aug 03 [15:01] schestowitz-TR thanks, rianne and I agreed not to buy any devices yet, as we don't know for sure yet what to 'provision' [15:01] schestowitz-TR she uses that pi to save he text files [15:01] schestowitz-TR when the pi died they were still open in kate, so nothing lost [15:01] schestowitz-TR only is both devices diue at the same time it results in loss [15:09] *britney (~britney@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [15:42] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #boycottnovell [15:44] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #boycottnovell ● Aug 03 [17:05] *britney has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:12] Techrights-sec the HTTP logs have quieted down quite a bit, perhaps due to the AWK script [17:13] schestowitz-TR no, I just haven't links to it for days [17:13] schestowitz-TR nor have I added images [17:17] *britney (~britney@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell [17:23] schestowitz-TR Worst Coronavirus July on Record and Over 200,000 Dead in Latest Weekly Report https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/03/the-weekly-covid-19-data/ [17:23] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Worst Coronavirus July on Record and Over 200,000 Dead in Latest Weekly Report [17:23] Techrights-sec I mean also that the cracking attempts have diminished greatly [17:31] Techrights-sec ack ● Aug 03 [18:40] schestowitz-TR LT posting anti-Linux shit today [18:40] schestowitz-TR told you something was amiss [18:40] schestowitz-TR they're quit caring [18:40] schestowitz-TR they send traffic (what's left) to "partners"... [18:40] schestowitz-TR *they've [18:58] Techrights-sec ack [18:58] Techrights-sec that's really sad of them [18:58] Techrights-sec tm-extract-posts-sql.pl seems to handle creation of GemText now [18:58] Techrights-sec I'd still say it's sad since Software Freedom was a growth area 20 years ago [18:58] Techrights-sec when M$ transitioned from marketing to politics ● Aug 03 [19:00] schestowitz-TR I'm nopt sure if that saddeens me anymore [19:00] schestowitz-TR or maybe I quit caring running a better service ourselves, maybe it'll work to our advantage [19:00] schestowitz-TR but overall, for the sake of gnu/linux advocacy, what they do is harmful [19:00] schestowitz-TR like authoratative linux.com being a pile of bad rubbish [19:00] schestowitz-TR LT was getting like 3k views per new posts around 2004-5 [19:00] schestowitz-TR I still remember [19:00] schestowitz-TR and Brian Proffitt (now IBM) ran it as editor [19:00] schestowitz-TR he also had a short sting at LFN, Linux Foundation Network iirc [19:00] schestowitz-TR back when they did some decent stuff [19:00] schestowitz-TR but remember, [19:00] schestowitz-TR "they they fight you" [19:00] schestowitz-TR criminals wopn't turn themselves in at the police station [19:00] Techrights-sec yes [19:00] Techrights-sec and slashdot, being a reflection of the zeitgeist, was all about FOSS and [19:00] Techrights-sec open standards and got many more views per post in the 00s [19:15] Techrights-sec ok [19:15] Techrights-sec the path for the gemini materis is /yyyy/mm/dd/slug.gmi [19:15] Techrights-sec the path for the XHTML matrial is /n/yyyy/mm/dd/slug.shtml [19:15] Techrights-sec or has there been another typo in the script? [19:15] Techrights-sec tweaking the URL for gemini now so that it will be /n/yyyy/mm/dd/slug.gmi [19:19] schestowitz-TR we coyld write rules to omit the "n/" frrom strings but ime, with techrights and schestowitz.com [19:19] schestowitz-TR better add the second level like w and c and Weblog [19:19] schestowitz-TR so we can have gemini.tuxmachines.org/git for example [19:19] schestowitz-TR with no likely collision [19:19] schestowitz-TR e.g. if we had cgi support at some point for only dir_path [19:19] Techrights-sec all set [19:19] schestowitz-TR and static otherwise [19:19] schestowitz-TR regarding typos in scripts, I saw the commits, but I'm not good at reading perl [19:19] schestowitz-TR and I only know that for the moment adding new nodes won't add them to the visible Web pages [19:19] schestowitz-TR due to a change in interfaces (another argument required, not "implicity" fallback) [19:19] schestowitz-TR *no implicit [19:19] schestowitz-TR should I try adding a node now? [19:19] schestowitz-TR starting with simpler (no images) cases? [19:20] Techrights-sec yes, please test it [19:20] schestowitz-TR excellent!! [19:20] schestowitz-TR that was fast [19:20] Techrights-sec the gemini part still has to be done manually but it can be added to the [19:20] Techrights-sec wrapper script or a new wrapper made [19:21] Techrights-sec There is also an option to extract the whole database at once --all [19:28] Techrights-sec perl is quick and expressive, the challenge, like with other languages is [19:28] Techrights-sec retaining clear meaning and annotation [19:28] Techrights-sec when writing; performance-wise it's ok for a scripting language [19:30] schestowitz tm-extract-posts-sql.pl [19:30] schestowitz Either the --gemini or --xhtml option, or both, must be given. [19:30] schestowitz tuxmachines:~$ tm-extract-posts-sql.pl --gemini --xhtml [19:30] schestowitz Destination '/var/www/tuxmachines.org/htdocs/n/2022/08/03/leftovers_2.shtml' already exists [19:30] schestowitz 'leftovers_2' could not be written [19:30] schestowitz Destination '/var/www/tuxmachines.org/htdocs/n/2022/08/03/Security:_Malware,_Mistakes,_Patches,_and_Snake-oil.shtml' already exists [19:30] schestowitz 'Security:_Malware,_Mistakes,_Patches,_and_Snake-oil' could not be written [19:30] schestowitz Destination '/var/www/tuxmachines.org/htdocs/n/2022/08/03/today's_leftovers.shtml' already exists [19:30] schestowitz 'today's_leftovers' could not be written [19:30] schestowitz Destination '/var/www/tuxmachines.org/htdocs/n/2022/08/03/howtos_2.shtml' already exists [19:30] schestowitz 'howtos_2' could not be written [19:30] schestowitz Destination '/var/www/tuxmachines.org/htdocs/n/2022/08/03/Red_Hat__IBM_Fluff.shtml' already exists [19:30] schestowitz 'Red_Hat__IBM_Fluff' could not be written [19:30] schestowitz Destination '/var/www/tuxmachines.org/htdocs/n/2022/08/03/today's_howtos.shtml' already exists [19:30] schestowitz 'today's_howtos' could not be written [19:30] schestowitz Destination '/var/www/tuxmachines.org/htdocs/n/2022/08/02/Games:_Steam_Deck,_Nintendo_Online,_and_More.shtml' already exists [19:30] schestowitz 'Games:_Steam_Deck,_Nintendo_Online,_and_More' could not be written [19:30] schestowitz mkdir /home/gemini/gemini/n: Permission denied at /usr/local/bin/tm-extract-posts-sql.pl line 434. [19:30] schestowitz-TR adding node, just a sec [19:30] schestowitz-TR after adding the node, should I run tm-export and refresh with the new extra args? [19:30] schestowitz-TR s/ export/extract/ [19:32] Techrights-sec ok the file system permissions for Gemini need work, [19:32] Techrights-sec checking [19:34] schestowitz-TR thanks [19:34] schestowitz-TR that's as user tux machines [19:34] schestowitz-TR I imagine roy, rianne, marius will be used later [19:34] schestowitz-TR prob. another [19:34] schestowitz-TR after running refresh the HTTP/S version too does not refresh [19:34] Techrights-sec you are in gemtext, but it was made in the last few days if you log in anew [19:34] Techrights-sec at least in another window then you can try again [19:34] Techrights-sec but the permissions /look/ ok [19:34] schestowitz-TR looking in again [19:34] schestowitz-TR *logging [19:46] schestowitz-TR I get the same outcome when logging in afresh [19:46] schestowitz-TR the last line suggests it is trying to create a directory "n" but fails, as tuxmachines [19:46] schestowitz-TR tuxmachines is in group webmasters [19:46] schestowitz-TR okj, I see you created this dir 10 mins ago [19:46] Techrights-sec updated 10 min ago [19:46] Techrights-sec it's been there for some days [19:46] Techrights-sec but the subdirectories are new [19:46] Techrights-sec tuxmachines is not in the group gemtext, roy is [19:55] schestowitz-TR OK, I've only just added my keys to the account roy, so I'm in as the "right" user [19:55] schestowitz-TR same outcome, it also gives me some other shell when I log in, like a more primitive one [19:55] schestowitz-TR I can live with this [19:55] Techrights-sec zsh is more advance, but we can add bash back in [19:55] Techrights-sec ash is problematic [19:55] Techrights-sec imho [19:58] Techrights-sec tm-extract-posts-sql.pl -a -g -f -v [19:58] Techrights-sec or without the -v [19:58] Techrights-sec the -a causes a full rebuild of the gemtext hierarchy and the -f forces [19:58] Techrights-sec overwritting the existing files ● Aug 03 [20:06] schestowitz-TR I am trying to load gemini pages from within the paths [20:06] schestowitz-TR done [20:06] schestowitz-TR it says the gemni paths are not writable [20:06] schestowitz-TR also, the http version has not been refreshing for over a day, no matter what I tried [20:06] schestowitz-TR yes, it doesn't raise a stink [20:06] schestowitz-TR but the site remains unchanged [20:06] schestowitz-TR there are half a dozen pages I've added since [20:06] schestowitz-TR they are not showing up [20:06] schestowitz-TR they exist, I think, but not in the index [20:06] Techrights-sec checking the http [20:06] Techrights-sec are you using the refresh-site-from-db.sh [20:06] Techrights-sec ? [20:06] Techrights-sec hmm I just ran it and see the files with the right time stamps and the [20:06] Techrights-sec web pages with the rigth content [20:06] Techrights-sec checking the db ... [20:14] Techrights-sec sqlite> select max(recno) from metadata; [20:14] Techrights-sec 206 [20:14] Techrights-sec sqlite> select * from metadata where recno=206; [20:14] Techrights-sec 206|dc.title|today's leftovers [20:14] Techrights-sec 206|dc.date.created|20220803 [20:14] Techrights-sec 206|dc.date.modified|20220803 [20:14] Techrights-sec 206|dc.creator|Tux Machines [20:14] Techrights-sec 206|dc.description|The Linux Foundation Welcome Jefferson Braswell as openIDL Project Executive Director... [20:14] Techrights-sec the page is there: [20:14] Techrights-sec http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/03/leftovers_2.shtml [20:14] -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines today's leftovers [20:14] Techrights-sec checking the feed [20:20] Techrights-sec the feed, though, is not quite right [20:20] Techrights-sec the search is extracting the records but something is going south [20:20] Techrights-sec I'll have to look into it [20:21] schestowitz-TR I see you've abbreviated to latest 10 [20:21] schestowitz-TR at least we've found a bug, I guess [20:21] schestowitz-TR 0/ [20:22] schestowitz-TR both the feed (xml) and index are not refreshing [20:22] Techrights-sec so the feed /is/ refreshing, it's just not getting the right material [20:22] Techrights-sec I'll look into the bug [20:43] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@u93sweawq3eeg.irc) has joined #boycottnovell