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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/19113815#78004290e6dc0138234e722ef41c0a88Oct 03 05:46
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: ● NEWS ● #TruthOut #election ☞ Federal Judge Rejects Attempt to Block Mail-In #Voting in #Montana https://truthout.org/articles/federal-judge-rejects-attempt-to-block-mail-in-voting-in-montana/ Oct 03 05:46
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> truthout.org | Federal Judge Rejects Attempt to Block Mail-In Voting in MontanaOct 03 05:46
schestowitz"Fascist attempts to suppress the vote must be stopped."Oct 03 05:46
schestowitzWill one be able to vote from a hospital?Oct 03 05:47
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/19118260#bc5d6920e7420138a599448a5bd87df2Oct 03 05:48
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #linuxfoundation is actively associating the brand #linux with mass #surveillance https://www.techtimes.com/articles/253013/20201001/new-york-launches-free-bluetooth-enabled-covid-19-contact-tracing.htm see http://techrights.org/2020/07/21/stalin-dream/ Oct 03 05:48
schestowitz"Will one be able to vote from a hospital?"Oct 03 05:48
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.techtimes.com | New York Launches Bluetooth-Enabled COVID-19 Contact Tracing App from Google, Apple, and Linux | Tech TimesOct 03 05:48
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | [Meme] Linux (or Linux Foundation) Rapidly Becoming ‘Stalin’s Dream’ | TechrightsOct 03 05:48
schestowitz"Oct 03 05:48
schestowitzThanks for sharing this article :)Oct 03 05:48
schestowitz    What’s your take on why the Titans–Google and Apple–are willing to share the spotlight with “Linux”?Oct 03 05:48
schestowitz    Is GNU/Linux still “safe” from an end user’s perspective?Oct 03 05:48
schestowitz"Oct 03 05:48
schestowitzLinux is increasingly untrustworthy; Linux Foundation has long been far too rogue: http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Linux_FoundationOct 03 05:49
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Linux Foundation - TechrightsOct 03 05:49
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/19116083#9c9ab190e76101389e81722ef41c0a88Oct 03 05:50
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Trump: "Doc, I got a virus!" Doc: "So do I!!" https://gizmodo.com/trumps-weirdo-doctor-uses-windows-xp-which-could-be-a-1785823507Oct 03 05:50
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> gizmodo.com | Trump's Weirdo Doctor Uses Windows XP, Which Could Be a Violation of HIPAAOct 03 05:50
schestowitz"The administration will try very hard to minimize the severity of Trump’s condition. There can be no credibility accorded to their reports."Oct 03 05:50
schestowitzKarma for their past liesOct 03 05:50
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/19116150#920e28e0e6fe0138234a722ef41c0a88Oct 03 05:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: GNU/Linux GNU/Linux GNU/Linux GNU/Linux GNU/Linux GNU/Linux GNU/Linux GNU/Linux #GNU / #Linux #FreeBSD GNU/Linux https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2020/10/02/most-reliable-hosting-company-sites-in-september-2020.htmlOct 03 05:51
schestowitz"MicroShit? Nada."Oct 03 05:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> news.netcraft.com | Most Reliable Hosting Company Sites in September 2020 | Netcraft NewsOct 03 05:51
schestowitzRocking back and forthOct 03 05:51
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/19117687#09d4f720e71c0138cb3908002785b8a8Oct 03 05:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: To use #windows you need to pay TWICE for computer #hardware (never mind cost of Windows itself) https://liliputing.com/2020/10/the-59-rock-pi-x-is-like-a-windows-compatible-raspberry-pi-with-an-x86-processor.html Oct 03 05:51
schestowitz"Oct 03 05:51
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> liliputing.com | The $59 Rock Pi X is like a Windows-compatible Raspberry Pi with an x86 processor - LiliputingOct 03 05:51
schestowitzHmmm, where do they hide the ME sub-computer?Oct 03 05:51
schestowitztomgrzOct 03 05:51
schestowitztomgrz - about 8 hours agoOct 03 05:52
schestowitzI want to know more about this BIOS:Oct 03 05:52
schestowitzhttps://wiki.radxa.com/RockpiX/biosOct 03 05:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-wiki.radxa.com | RockpiX/bios - Radxa WikiOct 03 05:52
schestowitztomgrzOct 03 05:52
schestowitztomgrz - about 8 hours agoOct 03 05:52
schestowitzThis is interesting:Oct 03 05:52
schestowitzIf you accidentally flash a bad BIOS image or set BIOS values which prevent your Rock Pi X from POST-ing, you can flash a BIOS image out-of-band with an affordable CH341a programmer and SOIC8 clamp (available from online retailers such as Amazon [1] for for ~$10-15 USD). The Rock Pi X uses a 1.8V SPI flash ROM from Winbond, so make sure you get a 1.8V adapter with your CH341a programmer.Oct 03 05:52
schestowitz"Oct 03 05:52
schestowitzI'd go with RasPi, which is more freedom-respecting  http://techrights.org/2020/09/12/raspi-freedom/Oct 03 05:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Richard Stallman Still Works to Improve the Freedom of the Widely-Used RasPi (Produced in the United Kingdom by the Raspberry Pi Foundation) | TechrightsOct 03 05:52
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/19117898#78dc3d60e72501384214005056264835Oct 03 05:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: " #Python 3.5 is no longer supported. There will be no more bug fixes or security patches for the 3.5 series, and Python 3.5.10 is the last release." https://pythoninsider.blogspot.com/2020/10/python-35-is-no-longer-supported.html Oct 03 05:52
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> pythoninsider.blogspot.com | Python Insider: Python 3.5 is no longer supportedOct 03 05:52
schestowitz"So 3.6 is now the past horizon of current."Oct 03 05:52
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/19115878#79b7cb20e6ff01382346722ef41c0a88Oct 03 05:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #surveillance tool of empire, carried out over #google ... like #CCTVGlasses which are an #espionage tool people wear and walk around with, even inside homes https://www.maketecheasier.com/awesome-google-lens-features/ Oct 03 05:53
schestowitz"People who care about other people will keep their Google device masked."Oct 03 05:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.maketecheasier.com | 10 Awesome Google Lens Features You Need to Try Right Now - Make Tech EasierOct 03 05:53
schestowitzWe need culture change, attitudinal change towards people with these 'smart' thingsOct 03 05:53
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/19116083#141fc700e76201389e9d722ef41c0a88Oct 03 05:54
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Trump: "Doc, I got a virus!" Doc: "So do I!!" https://gizmodo.com/trumps-weirdo-doctor-uses-windows-xp-which-could-be-a-1785823507Oct 03 05:54
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> gizmodo.com | Trump's Weirdo Doctor Uses Windows XP, Which Could Be a Violation of HIPAAOct 03 05:54
schestowitz"Sadly, we are all involved due to his disinformation."Oct 03 05:54
schestowitzEven outside the US. A new study from Cornell shows that worldwide, in fact, he has been the source or prime source of COVID denial, which helped the thing spread through COVIDiotsOct 03 05:54
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/19115878#68048030e76201389e9f722ef41c0a88Oct 03 05:55
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #surveillance tool of empire, carried out over #google ... like #CCTVGlasses which are an #espionage tool people wear and walk around with, even inside homes https://www.maketecheasier.com/awesome-google-lens-features/ Oct 03 05:55
schestowitz"“listening devices”"Oct 03 05:55
schestowitzI thought I had come up with this term until I saw it in PBS, although I bet many other people came up with it concurrently (in relation to these things, specifically)Oct 03 05:56
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/19113815#b154f530e76101389e8b722ef41c0a88Oct 03 05:56
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: ● NEWS ● #TruthOut #election ☞ Federal Judge Rejects Attempt to Block Mail-In #Voting in #Montana https://truthout.org/articles/federal-judge-rejects-attempt-to-block-mail-in-voting-in-montana/ Oct 03 05:56
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> truthout.org | Federal Judge Rejects Attempt to Block Mail-In Voting in MontanaOct 03 05:56
schestowitz"“Anyone have a postage stamp?”"Oct 03 05:56
schestowitzSaliva for the stamp can be extracted from the Orange ThroatOct 03 05:56
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/19113827#468c7dc0e6dc0138234a722ef41c0a88Oct 03 05:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: ● NEWS ● #TheNation #rnc ☞ Who Has the Power to Define #Christianity in the US? https://www.thenation.com/article/society/trump-evangelical-christian/ Oct 03 05:57
schestowitz"There is a large contingent of “progressive” Christians, both Catholic and Protestant."Oct 03 05:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.thenation.com | Who Has the Power to Define Christianity in the US? | The NationOct 03 05:57
schestowitzThey ought to become louder at these timesOct 03 05:57
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/19112388#dd1bce20e6a60138b4d202ab89d877f2Oct 03 05:58
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: ● NEWS ● #SecurityWeek #Privacy #Surveillance ☞ Secretive Big Data Firm #Palantir Makes Low-Key Stocks Debut https://www.securityweek.com/secretive-big-data-firm-palantir-makes-low-key-stocks-debut Oct 03 05:58
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.securityweek.com | Secretive Big Data Firm Palantir Makes Low-Key Stocks Debut | SecurityWeek.ComOct 03 05:58
schestowitz"Welcome in the surveillance society !'Oct 03 05:58
schestowitzIn service of fascism, not securityOct 03 05:58
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/19112228#4bdff9d0e6a30138a5ca268acd52edbfOct 03 05:58
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: ● NEWS ● #TomsHardware #OpenHardware ☞ The Best #RaspberryPi Cases https://www.tomshardware.com/best-picks/best-raspberry-pi-cases Oct 03 05:58
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.tomshardware.com | The Best Raspberry Pi Cases | Tom's HardwareOct 03 05:58
schestowitz"paywall"Oct 03 05:58
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/19117494#20dd8550e73f01389e71722ef41c0a88Oct 03 05:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@tomgrz@diasporing.ch reshared: ● NEWS ● #TruthOut ☞ Researchers Say #Trump Is the "Largest Single Component" of #COVID19 Misinformation https://truthout.org/articles/researchers-say-trump-is-the-largest-single-component-of-covid-misinformation/ Oct 03 05:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> truthout.org | Researchers Say Trump Is the "Largest Single Component" of COVID MisinformationOct 03 05:59
schestowitz"Now an example of reality."Oct 03 05:59
schestowitzRMS mentioned this in his RT interview (at the start)  http://techrights.org/2020/09/25/new-rms-interview-about-privacy/Oct 03 05:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Richard Stallman: New Interview About Privacy (Published This Morning) | TechrightsOct 03 05:59
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/19112381#104af110e6a70138b4d402ab89d877f2Oct 03 06:00
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: ● NEWS ● #NewStatesman #Privacy #Surveillance ☞ #Palantir IPO: why the secretive data giant is cosying up to Donald Trump https://www.newstatesman.com/science-tech/2020/10/palantir-ipo-why-secretive-data-giant-cosying-donald-trump Oct 03 06:00
schestowitz"Oct 03 06:00
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.newstatesman.com | Palantir IPO: why the secretive data giant is cosying up to Donald TrumpOct 03 06:00
schestowitzWelcome in the surveillance society !Oct 03 06:00
schestowitzWhat will do the State ?Oct 03 06:00
schestowitz"Oct 03 06:00
schestowitzTouch the hand of the German to pass COVID to GermanyOct 03 06:00
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/19113827#f2ba5e60e76201389e93722ef41c0a88Oct 03 06:00
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: ● NEWS ● #TheNation #rnc ☞ Who Has the Power to Define #Christianity in the US? https://www.thenation.com/article/society/trump-evangelical-christian/ Oct 03 06:00
schestowitz"Shit yes!"Oct 03 06:00
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/19115878#2016f750e76301389e8b722ef41c0a88Oct 03 06:00
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #surveillance tool of empire, carried out over #google ... like #CCTVGlasses which are an #espionage tool people wear and walk around with, even inside homes https://www.maketecheasier.com/awesome-google-lens-features/ Oct 03 06:01
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.maketecheasier.com | 10 Awesome Google Lens Features You Need to Try Right Now - Make Tech EasierOct 03 06:01
schestowitz"The very first time (I think) the very first time I saw a “smart speaker”, I proclaimed the thing “not a speaker, a microphone”.'Oct 03 06:01
schestowitzcOct 03 06:01
schestowitzYes, I did the same. RMS has long called those things "Bugs", but a lot of people (esp. younger generations) don't really know what "bugs" (can) mean, so I try not to use that term too much. There are other terms. Some of those microphones are smaller than actual bugs.Oct 03 06:03
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/19117494#5cbbd7c0e76301389e93722ef41c0a88Oct 03 06:03
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@tomgrz@diasporing.ch reshared: ● NEWS ● #TruthOut ☞ Researchers Say #Trump Is the "Largest Single Component" of #COVID19 Misinformation https://truthout.org/articles/researchers-say-trump-is-the-largest-single-component-of-covid-misinformation/ Oct 03 06:03
schestowitz"He and I have a lot in common. ;-)"Oct 03 06:03
schestowitz"(not really) ;-)"Oct 03 06:03
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/19111259#562acc60e6f00138b999047d7b62795eOct 03 06:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: And sometimes the #security issues are in the chips themselves. ARM will soon be US-controlled junk (not UK or Japan) https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.10-New-ARM-Spectre-Code Oct 03 06:04
schestowitz"#USAUSAUSA"Oct 03 06:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.phoronix.com | Ghostbusters - Linux 5.10 To Bring Rewritten Spectre Mitigations For 64-bit ARM - PhoronixOct 03 06:04
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/19108040#85df6ef0e6d10138dbff101b0efced44Oct 03 06:05
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@tomgrz@diasporing.ch reshared: ● NEWS ● #TruthOut #Election ☞ #Trump and Allies Are Already Sabotaging the Election, Experts Say https://truthout.org/articles/trump-and-allies-are-already-sabotaging-the-election-experts-say/ Oct 03 06:05
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> truthout.org | Trump and Allies Are Already Sabotaging the Election, Experts SayOct 03 06:05
schestowitz"Oct 03 06:05
schestowitzThis is sedition and treason.Oct 03 06:05
schestowitzNora QudusOct 03 06:05
schestowitzNora Qudus - a day agoOct 03 06:05
schestowitzyes sedition and treason! As if anyone who can do something cares,Oct 03 06:05
schestowitzChristian FrankOct 03 06:05
schestowitzChristian Frank - a day agoOct 03 06:05
schestowitzI’m convinced that Biden already has the votes and that Trump is going to win anyway. Trump will declare victory on election day, Biden will make an attempt at contesting that through McConnell’s courts, and he will eventually concede a few days after inauguration.Oct 03 06:05
schestowitztomgrzOct 03 06:05
schestowitztomgrz - a day agoOct 03 06:05
schestowitzAnd after that, all hell breaks loose…Oct 03 06:05
schestowitzChristian FrankOct 03 06:05
schestowitzChristian Frank - a day agoOct 03 06:05
schestowitz    And after that, all hell breaks loose…Oct 03 06:05
schestowitzI’m much more pessimistic than that. We may even get to a point where most people want to fight, but we the masses are simply not organized enough to really fight back effectively. So we complain about our illegitmate government on our lunch breaks after we show up to work.Oct 03 06:05
schestowitztomgrzOct 03 06:05
schestowitztomgrz - a day agoOct 03 06:05
schestowitzAfter Trumo was elected there were a number of large demonstrations - and that was even with the understanding that the results were legitimate.Oct 03 06:05
schestowitzBosshammerOct 03 06:05
schestowitzBosshammer - about 17 hours agoOct 03 06:05
schestowitzGeneral strike?Oct 03 06:05
schestowitz"Oct 03 06:05
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/19096586#c443a55c-455f-76b3-ddd2-718990862734Oct 03 06:07
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@tomgrz@diasporing.ch reshared: "There is absolutely zero body count related to the terminology used in the Linux kernel. Or to people failing to comprehend words like blacklist and ascribing some non-existent racist connotation." https://forums.theregister.com/forum/all/2020/07/13/linux_adopts_inclusive_language/ Oct 03 06:07
schestowitz"Oct 03 06:07
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> forums.theregister.com | Linus Torvalds banishes masters, slaves and blacklists from the Linux kernel, starting now • The Register ForumsOct 03 06:07
schestowitz@tomgrz I’m old school. I see nothing racist in those terms. Blacklist is iffy today but the terms blacklist and blackball go back hundreds of years, long before racism infected white people.Oct 03 06:07
schestowitzMaster and slave isn’t racist at all, except to some imaginative United Statesians. Slavery goes back thousands of years and almost always meant enslaving people of your own race.Oct 03 06:07
schestowitzMaster / slave describes an engineering thing that has no good substitute. All substitutes I’ve seen do not convey the master / slave relationship that’s being described by an engineer. For example, leader / follower isn’t clear enough. It doesn’t clearly preclude choice. When an engineer says that X is slaved to Y, it means that X has NO choice but to obey Y. That’s the whole point.Oct 03 06:07
schestowitzIf someone comes up with words that are as clear as master / slave, I’ll consider it. But I think this is an absurd extension of political correctness. What’s more, not using master / slave doesn’t make the words go away. It doesn’t change the existence of slavery in history, nor prevent slavery in the future.Oct 03 06:07
schestowitzGeorge Carlin doesn’t care for removing truth from language. I’m old enough to have seen the devolution of language just in my time, so I agree with him. Here’s the full-length bit he does on it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9n8Xp8DWf8Oct 03 06:07
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.youtube.com | George Carlin - Euphemisms & political correctness - YouTubeOct 03 06:07
schestowitztomgrzOct 03 06:07
schestowitztomgrz - 3 days agoOct 03 06:07
schestowitzI agree completely.Oct 03 06:07
schestowitzPhil StracchinoOct 03 06:07
schestowitzPhil Stracchino - 3 days agoOct 03 06:07
schestowitzIn databases, we are now using “primary” and “replica”. In this case, I think it’s just as good.Oct 03 06:07
schestowitzElsewhere there was a discussion on brake cylinders. I forget what we agreed on as good terms there. Something like activator and effector.Oct 03 06:07
schestowitzI know full well that these terms originated with no discriminatory intent. But where we can readily change them, I see doing so as a sign that we hear, we are listening, and we’re trying to change things.Oct 03 06:07
schestowitztomgrzOct 03 06:07
schestowitztomgrz - 3 days agoOct 03 06:07
schestowitzThing is, “activator and effector” are not in most people’s vocabulary. This may lead to confusion. Everything has a cost…Oct 03 06:07
schestowitzPhil StracchinoOct 03 06:07
schestowitzPhil Stracchino - 2 days agoOct 03 06:07
schestowitzOh, I know that, and that’s half the point — that those were the best alternatives we could come up with.Oct 03 06:07
schestowitztomgrzOct 03 06:07
schestowitztomgrz - 2 days agoOct 03 06:07
schestowitzHow about “affector and effector”? ;-)Oct 03 06:07
schestowitzPhil StracchinoOct 03 06:07
schestowitzPhil Stracchino - 2 days agoOct 03 06:07
schestowitzI think we decided those were too similar and would confuse people.Oct 03 06:07
schestowitztomgrzOct 03 06:08
schestowitztomgrz - 2 days agoOct 03 06:08
schestowitzDang.Oct 03 06:08
schestowitzPhil StracchinoOct 03 06:08
schestowitzPhil Stracchino - 2 days agoOct 03 06:08
schestowitzI think in MOST cases “primary” substitutes well for “master”. But, well … primary/secondary does not really accurately reflect the relationship in a brake system, especially once you get ABS into the picture.Oct 03 06:08
schestowitzAnother suggestion, I think, was “driver” and “driven”.Oct 03 06:08
schestowitztomgrzOct 03 06:08
schestowitztomgrz - 2 days agoOct 03 06:08
schestowitzspanker and spankeeOct 03 06:08
schestowitzPhil Landmeier (ᚠ)Oct 03 06:08
schestowitzPhil Landmeier (ᚠ) - 2 days agoOct 03 06:08
schestowitz@tomgrz The problem with all these alternative terms is that you have to explain what they mean. Master / slave doesn’t need any explanation. That’s why they chose the words master and slave, which don’t even refer to human slavery.Oct 03 06:08
schestowitzI’m afraid there are no other words in English that refer to the states of being “master” and “slave”.Oct 03 06:08
schestowitztomgrzOct 03 06:08
schestowitztomgrz - a day agoOct 03 06:08
schestowitzI am in favor of bring S&M terms into more common usage. Why, not, if they are useful.Oct 03 06:08
schestowitztomgrzOct 03 06:08
schestowitztomgrz - a day agoOct 03 06:08
schestowitzMaster / slave doesn’t need any explanation.Oct 03 06:08
schestowitzYes, the thing about “slave” and slavery, is that this overlording/subservient relationship has been in place throughtout much of human history - to this very day…Oct 03 06:08
schestowitzPhil Landmeier (ᚠ)Oct 03 06:08
schestowitzPhil Landmeier (ᚠ) - a day agoOct 03 06:08
schestowitz@tomgrz Indeed. I think I’ve run into engineering jokes long ago along those lines.Oct 03 06:08
schestowitz"Oct 03 06:08
schestowitzChanging terms means retraining, inc. teaching people the old terms for better grasp of older texts. This mostly harms those with old textbooks, i.e. poor people.Oct 03 06:08
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BryanWilhite/status/1312255301903544320Oct 03 08:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BryanWilhite: 2,445 IBM Employees Openly Condemned IBM for Enabling Racist and Intolerant Regimes It's time to recall what IBM e… https://t.co/OY9lJdjf1hOct 03 08:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BryanWilhite: 2,445 IBM Employees Openly Condemned IBM for Enabling Racist and Intolerant Regimes It's time to recall what IBM e… https://t.co/OY9lJdjf1hOct 03 08:14
schestowitz"Oct 03 08:14
schestowitz2,445 IBM Employees Openly Condemned IBM for Enabling Racist and Intolerant RegimesOct 03 08:14
schestowitzIt's time to recall what IBM employees have themselves said (or signed on) in light of the manner in which IBM was making moneyOct 03 08:14
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2020/08/20/ibm-employees-condemn-ibm-leaders/Oct 03 08:14
schestowitz#rxa Oct 03 08:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | 2,445 IBM Employees Openly Condemned IBM for Enabling Racist and Intolerant Regimes | TechrightsOct 03 08:14
schestowitz👁Oct 03 08:14
schestowitzOct 03 08:14
schestowitz🌩Oct 03 08:14
schestowitz"Oct 03 08:15
schestowitz> Some changes occurred in the last day or so.  So we can't get it for nowOct 03 08:28
schestowitz> even after updating youtube-dl, which is only from a few weeks ago.Oct 03 08:28
schestowitz> When youtube-dl updates, we can try again.Oct 03 08:28
schestowitzOK, no rush :-)Oct 03 08:28
schestowitzThis one is not time-sensitive at all.Oct 03 08:28
schestowitzApropos:Oct 03 08:28
schestowitz[16:08] [Notice] -viera to #boycottnovell-social- Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊): Wow. I have never seen anything remotely like this. You come back to a #youtube video, unpause, then it goes into ads and plays them endlessly, one by one, never coming back to the actual video (ads for 20 minutes now!). #google jumped the shark big time. [https://pleroma.site/objects/9a90316f-21b9-4436-bbea-289f4fd96146]Oct 03 08:28
schestowitzThat's from yesterday.Oct 03 08:29
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pleroma.site | pleroma.siteOct 03 08:29
schestowitzI always keep yotuube on mute now.Oct 03 08:29
schestowitzSome background: it's an old laptops which instead of keeping unused I keep at a distance, playing beautiful netscapes (like 5-hour loops with drone footage). When I wait for something to happen on my PC I can look away for a while and sometimes it's visible to Rianne as well. Bandwidth pig, but Google (or ads we don't watch/hear) is paying....Oct 03 08:29
schestowitz> latest editor features:Oct 03 08:30
schestowitz> Oct 03 08:30
schestowitz> shell commands still work single line, activated by CTRL-T.Oct 03 08:30
schestowitz> Oct 03 08:30
schestowitz> Oct 03 08:31
schestowitz> echo "this works" | cat -n CTRL-TOct 03 08:31
schestowitz> this worksOct 03 08:31
schestowitz> Oct 03 08:31
schestowitz> Oct 03 08:31
schestowitz> now you can do commands that affect the selection theyre part of:Oct 03 08:31
schestowitz> Oct 03 08:31
schestowitz> appto log.txtOct 03 08:31
schestowitz> select this lineOct 03 08:31
schestowitz> this one tooOct 03 08:31
schestowitz> select this line with the others, including the appto lineOct 03 08:31
schestowitz> Oct 03 08:31
schestowitz> then do CTRL-T and it appends the text to log.txt.Oct 03 08:31
schestowitz> Oct 03 08:31
schestowitz> i can create a new window or open a new file, but this lets me save toOct 03 08:31
schestowitz> different files from the same buffer just by adding a command. thisOct 03 08:31
schestowitz> comes up or i wouldnt have implemented it. i sometimes have hundreds ofOct 03 08:31
schestowitz> thousands of lines in the editor, and just want to copy some new ones toOct 03 08:31
schestowitz> a file.Oct 03 08:31
schestowitz> Oct 03 08:31
schestowitz> Oct 03 08:31
schestowitz> Oct 03 08:31
schestowitz> wcl CTRL-T gives me a line count of files in the buffer. i could alreadyOct 03 08:31
schestowitz> save the file and wc filename CTRL-T but this is without even updatingOct 03 08:31
schestowitz> the file.Oct 03 08:31
schestowitz> Oct 03 08:31
schestowitz> Oct 03 08:31
schestowitz> seek tokens|to look|for CTRL-T will output a list of all lines in theOct 03 08:31
schestowitz> buffer (even if it contains hundreds of thousands of lines) thatOct 03 08:31
schestowitz> contains "tokens" or "to looks" or "for" in them.Oct 03 08:31
schestowitz> Oct 03 08:31
schestowitz> thats if no text is selected. if text is selected with the command atOct 03 08:31
schestowitz> the top, it will do a search only on the selected lines. this is a handyOct 03 08:31
schestowitz> way to isolate certain text.Oct 03 08:31
schestowitz> Oct 03 08:31
schestowitz> Oct 03 08:31
schestowitz> Oct 03 08:31
schestowitz> unseek tokens|to look|for CTRL-T will output a list of all lines in theOct 03 08:31
schestowitz> buffer (even if it contains hundreds of thousands of lines) that DO NOTOct 03 08:31
schestowitz> contain "tokens" or "to looks" or "for" in them.Oct 03 08:31
schestowitz> Oct 03 08:32
schestowitz> thats if no text is selected. if text is selected with the command atOct 03 08:32
schestowitz> the top, it will do a search only on the selected lines.Oct 03 08:32
schestowitz> Oct 03 08:32
schestowitz> Oct 03 08:32
schestowitz> i often organise files by importing the entire filesystem tree (or aOct 03 08:32
schestowitz> large part of it) into the editor. i can copy, move files, remove them,Oct 03 08:32
schestowitz> run other programs-- but suppose i have a much longer list than this:Oct 03 08:32
schestowitz> Oct 03 08:32
schestowitz> Oct 03 08:32
schestowitz> helloOct 03 08:32
schestowitz> thereOct 03 08:32
schestowitz> hiOct 03 08:32
schestowitz> Oct 03 08:32
schestowitz> i want to remove anything with "e" in it:Oct 03 08:32
schestowitz> Oct 03 08:32
schestowitz> unseek eOct 03 08:32
schestowitz> helloOct 03 08:32
schestowitz> thereOct 03 08:32
schestowitz> hiOct 03 08:32
schestowitz> Oct 03 08:32
schestowitz> the output is:Oct 03 08:32
schestowitz> hiOct 03 08:32
schestowitz> Oct 03 08:32
schestowitz> *now i have this:**Oct 03 08:32
schestowitz> *Oct 03 08:32
schestowitz> Oct 03 08:32
schestowitz> Oct 03 08:32
schestowitz> unseek eOct 03 08:32
schestowitz> helloOct 03 08:32
schestowitz> thereOct 03 08:32
schestowitz> hiOct 03 08:32
schestowitz> Oct 03 08:32
schestowitz> hiOct 03 08:32
schestowitz> Oct 03 08:32
schestowitz> Oct 03 08:32
schestowitz> i simply highlight the old list and remove it-- now i have the filteredOct 03 08:32
schestowitz> version. or if i want i can keep both lists (sometimes i just want toOct 03 08:32
schestowitz> work on part of the list, not remove it).Oct 03 08:32
schestowitz> Oct 03 08:32
schestowitz> Oct 03 08:33
schestowitz> with this select feature, i can also (havent implemented this yet) doOct 03 08:33
schestowitz> something like this:Oct 03 08:33
schestowitz> Oct 03 08:33
schestowitz> Oct 03 08:33
schestowitz> figOct 03 08:33
schestowitz> for p 1 5 1Oct 03 08:33
schestowitz> now "this is fig code" printOct 03 08:33
schestowitz> nextOct 03 08:33
schestowitz> Oct 03 08:33
schestowitz> i can make it save that to editor.out.fig and compile it using fig, thenOct 03 08:33
schestowitz> run it and add the output to the buffer:Oct 03 08:33
schestowitz> Oct 03 08:33
schestowitz> figOct 03 08:33
schestowitz> for p 1 5 1Oct 03 08:33
schestowitz> now "this is fig code" printOct 03 08:33
schestowitz> nextOct 03 08:33
schestowitz> this is fig codeOct 03 08:33
schestowitz> this is fig codeOct 03 08:33
schestowitz> this is fig codeOct 03 08:33
schestowitz> this is fig codeOct 03 08:33
schestowitz> this is fig codeOct 03 08:33
schestowitz> Oct 03 08:33
schestowitz> if i like it, i can do this:Oct 03 08:33
schestowitz> Oct 03 08:33
schestowitz> Oct 03 08:33
schestowitz> Oct 03 08:33
schestowitz> appto thisiscode.figOct 03 08:33
schestowitz> for p 1 5 1Oct 03 08:33
schestowitz> now "this is fig code" printOct 03 08:33
schestowitz> nextOct 03 08:33
schestowitz> CTRL-TOct 03 08:33
schestowitz> Oct 03 08:33
schestowitz> now its saved as a file.Oct 03 08:33
schestowitz> Oct 03 08:33
schestowitz> i dont use regexes much. only when i have to.Oct 03 08:34
schestowitz> Oct 03 08:34
schestowitz> i prefer syntaxes that make it so i can write MOST of the basics of whatOct 03 08:34
schestowitz> i need to do WITHOUT running and debugging the code 10 or 20 times. ofOct 03 08:34
schestowitz> course i will do that if i need to, but i like code that expresses whatOct 03 08:34
schestowitz> i want to do in a way that i can tell more easily what its going to do,Oct 03 08:34
schestowitz> without as many surprises.Oct 03 08:34
schestowitz> Oct 03 08:34
schestowitz> ive used regexes for years, but i find them very "error prone" in termsOct 03 08:34
schestowitz> of what i want to express.Oct 03 08:34
schestowitz> Oct 03 08:34
schestowitz> some people have really excellent regex-fu. ive never been one of thoseOct 03 08:34
schestowitz> people. sure ive worked on improving it a few times, but ultimatelyOct 03 08:34
schestowitz> regexes are "sloppy" for my purposes, while theyre an incredible laserOct 03 08:34
schestowitz> tool for some people. good for them-- me, i simply dont use them as muchOct 03 08:34
schestowitz> as they dont really save me that much trouble over something like "letsOct 03 08:34
schestowitz> just write a quick fig routine".Oct 03 08:34
schestowitz> Oct 03 08:34
schestowitz> even if its the same time to write it, less of that time is spent doingOct 03 08:35
schestowitz> guesswork and debugging. as a result, the tools i make rarely have a lotOct 03 08:35
schestowitz> of regex stuff.Oct 03 08:35
schestowitz> Oct 03 08:35
schestowitz> also, implemented regexes in python is...  well its bullshit, really. iOct 03 08:35
schestowitz> still have grep (even in my editor) when i want to use grep. but theOct 03 08:35
schestowitz> main thing i use grep for is egrep "tokens|like|this" or egrep -vOct 03 08:35
schestowitz> "tokens|like|this"Oct 03 08:35
schestowitzKate can do regex in the GUI. Sed also supports such syntax.Oct 03 08:35
schestowitzFor my todo list, to do undone tasks:Oct 03 08:35
schestowitzgrep '^[a-Z]' ~/Desktop/Text_Workspace/todo2014.txt | head -n 100Oct 03 08:35
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schestowitzformation and even linkformation and even linkformation and even linkx https://redmondmag.com/articles/2020/10/02/microsoft-azure-active-directory-progress.aspxOct 03 13:30
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schestowitz> i didnt know i copied you that one--Oct 03 15:05
schestowitz> Oct 03 15:05
schestowitz> ^startswith is the other thing i use most, after egrep "stuff|like|this"Oct 03 15:05
schestowitz> Oct 03 15:05
schestowitz> not much chance of me using kate, i avoid kde when i can-- which isOct 03 15:05
schestowitz> usually. most likely reason to bring in kde: web browser. but im notOct 03 15:05
schestowitz> sure kde is really better than the alternatives for just a browser.Oct 03 15:05
schestowitz> rendering is done by mozilla or google... how about no and no? i hateOct 03 15:05
schestowitz> the web. blame the browsers, i do.Oct 03 15:05
schestowitzSee gates deposition re browser 'extensions'...Oct 03 15:05
schestowitz> For the sake of time I'm going to skip to the point, and risk soundingOct 03 15:10
schestowitz> overly critical when the real intent is to be helpful. I won't wasteOct 03 15:10
schestowitz> your time trying to not have the words be taken the wrong way. There'sOct 03 15:10
schestowitz> the disclaimer.Oct 03 15:10
schestowitz> Oct 03 15:10
schestowitz> I notice that more people are complaining about the blog style. I don'tOct 03 15:10
schestowitz> consider it much of a problem, it probably works (for me) the way youOct 03 15:10
schestowitz> intend it to. Though I pay closer attention than a lot of people do. ForOct 03 15:10
schestowitz> others who don't want to click around like they're getting sucked intoOct 03 15:10
schestowitz> Wikipedia, I notice even rms is complaining about how the articles areOct 03 15:10
schestowitz> too succint, how they waste no time on review or context from otherOct 03 15:10
schestowitz> articles.Oct 03 15:10
schestowitz> Oct 03 15:10
schestowitz> This is an exaggeration, because they do frequently link to context likeOct 03 15:10
schestowitz> that. All solutions are imperfect, none are suited to everything. But itOct 03 15:10
schestowitz> is possible to find a balance that works for more of your audience.Oct 03 15:10
schestowitz> People complain that not enough is "included" in a single link, theyOct 03 15:10
schestowitz> want more. I can appreciate that.Oct 03 15:10
schestowitz> Oct 03 15:10
schestowitz> I don't approach writing the same way-- I'm overly inclusive. I know IOct 03 15:10
schestowitz> am. I'm sorry for the long article, if I'd spent more time I would writeOct 03 15:11
schestowitz> a shorter one, etc. I already spend hours writing them. This email isOct 03 15:11
schestowitz> probably taking 10-15 minutes.Oct 03 15:11
schestowitz> Oct 03 15:11
schestowitz> Your articles are too short for people, and if you were more of anOct 03 15:11
schestowitz> editor (if you didn't conflate editing with censorship) then you couldOct 03 15:11
schestowitz> probably edit my articles down just a bit. I'm sure they would be betterOct 03 15:11
schestowitz> for it. It would be better if I did as well, but I'm longwinded-- it's aOct 03 15:11
schestowitz> thing. It's not like I've never tried to be less longwinded, but for meOct 03 15:11
schestowitz> not being longwinded is like a gay person trying to be straight. I'veOct 03 15:11
schestowitz> tried, I'm sure it helped a little. But despite all efforts...Oct 03 15:11
schestowitz> Oct 03 15:11
schestowitz> You could probably make your articles a little longer, somewhere betweenOct 03 15:11
schestowitz> the length they are and what I write-- you know I never aim for aOct 03 15:11
schestowitz> specific length, I simply start writing and then stop when I feel likeOct 03 15:11
schestowitz> I've said what I wanted to say. Incredibly that seems to always come outOct 03 15:11
schestowitz> to about 50 paragraphs.Oct 03 15:11
schestowitz> Oct 03 15:11
schestowitz> I could start watching your output and tell you what you average, butOct 03 15:11
schestowitz> there's not a lot I can say in 50 paragraphs that someone else couldn'tOct 03 15:11
schestowitz> say in half that many.Oct 03 15:11
schestowitz> Oct 03 15:11
schestowitz> You could start by doubling your articles, or going for 1 1/2 theOct 03 15:11
schestowitz> current length. To be sure, nothing is going to make everybody happy--Oct 03 15:11
schestowitz> and it's funny to hear that your articles don't say enough, when so manyOct 03 15:11
schestowitz> people are "overly" informed by tweets, you know.Oct 03 15:11
schestowitz> Oct 03 15:11
schestowitz> But slightly fewer, slightly longer articles are an experiment worthOct 03 15:11
schestowitz> trying. Again-- while they're in vogue, because this probably isn't theOct 03 15:11
schestowitz> first time you've tried it. But at least while rms is requesting it, ifOct 03 15:11
schestowitz> it's not too much trouble.Oct 03 15:11
schestowitz> Oct 03 15:11
schestowitz> But if it is? Heck, I can relate. Cheers.Oct 03 15:11
schestowitz> Oct 03 15:11
schestowitz> Why am I longwinded? It's the way I think. For me, writing is the act ofOct 03 15:11
schestowitz> filling a small paper cup with a garden hose. Words go everywhere. ButOct 03 15:11
schestowitz> it's not because I don't bother to aim, or because I think more wordsOct 03 15:11
schestowitz> are better and it's certainly not that I'm trying to prove anything. ItOct 03 15:11
schestowitz> is what it is, and thankfully some people appreciate the effort. But I'mOct 03 15:11
schestowitz> used to the complaints and suggestions-- as I'm sure you are.Oct 03 15:11
schestowitzMinor point re " "overly" informed by tweets, you know."Oct 03 15:11
schestowitzThe scare quotes (assuming American style of quotes) should be around informed.Oct 03 15:12
schestowitzI am trying to reduce memes frequencies and add more details on key topic.  More wiki pages would help a lot too. Thanks for that! Those pages are fewer and receive more views than posts.Oct 03 15:12
schestowitz> Another thing worth noting is that there are at least two or threeOct 03 15:13
schestowitz> audiences (with some overlap) for your articles.Oct 03 15:13
schestowitz> Oct 03 15:13
schestowitz>  1. Patent peopleOct 03 15:13
schestowitz>  2. GeneralOct 03 15:13
schestowitz>  3. FSFOct 03 15:13
schestowitz> Oct 03 15:13
schestowitz> I think the patent stuff is interesting and might follow the headlinesOct 03 15:13
schestowitz> or open one of the articles for references, but I mostly ignore those.Oct 03 15:13
schestowitz> I'm not saying they're unimportant, just that the people most likely toOct 03 15:13
schestowitz> benefit from them are someone other than me personally. The topic isOct 03 15:13
schestowitz> important, the details I pay little attention to. It's like sports--Oct 03 15:13
schestowitz> with patent stuff I really only care about the score, other people watchOct 03 15:13
schestowitz> the game.Oct 03 15:13
schestowitz> Oct 03 15:13
schestowitz> "Did you see that ludicrous display last night?"Oct 03 15:13
schestowitz> Oct 03 15:13
schestowitz> "The thing about Kluless Patent Blog is they always try and walk it in."Oct 03 15:13
schestowitz> Oct 03 15:13
schestowitz> Then there's your general audience-- AKA "most people", whoever theyOct 03 15:13
schestowitz> are. They may or may not benefit from changes in article style.Oct 03 15:14
schestowitz> Oct 03 15:14
schestowitz> Then there are topics CERTAIN to be of interest to the FSF and peopleOct 03 15:14
schestowitz> closely following general free software news. These are the ones youOct 03 15:14
schestowitz> almost certainly want to optimise for whatever length makes them moreOct 03 15:14
schestowitz> introductory, more accessible to people less familiar, whatever.Oct 03 15:14
schestowitz> Oct 03 15:14
schestowitz> The point being that you don't have to do that for every article-- atOct 03 15:14
schestowitz> most, probably the ones closer to stuff about Free Software. Not thatOct 03 15:14
schestowitz> bogus patents aren't relevant to free software, but most people do notOct 03 15:14
schestowitz> follow that as closely. I'm sure quite a few people do-- just not asOct 03 15:14
schestowitz> many when you compare. I'm talking about number of readers, not pageOct 03 15:14
schestowitz> hits or article popularity.Oct 03 15:14
schestowitz> Oct 03 15:14
schestowitz> So even if you prefer not to change your style, but others do prefer--Oct 03 15:14
schestowitz> you could do it partially and focus on the general Free Software topicsOct 03 15:14
schestowitz> (corruption, freedom of speech, any changes in organisation of anyOct 03 15:14
schestowitz> sort.) That sort of thing.Oct 03 15:14
schestowitzfocus typically changes over time and depends on severity and urgency.Oct 03 15:14
schestowitzThe overlaps may exist; but it boils down to expertise of our communities/sources.Oct 03 15:14
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