IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, December 03, 2021

DaemonFC

Another CP scandal at Microsoft?

Techrights-sec2

back in a few hours

schestowitz-TR

DaemonFC: no, worse

DaemonFC

WHAT WHAT!?

schestowitz-TR

I can't say yet

DaemonFC

Did he murder someone?

schestowitz-TR

we need the police records to be sure

schestowitz-TR

DaemonFC: almost

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schestowitz-TR

same

schestowitz-TR

though will be in and out of earshot for some hours later

Techrights-sec2

same

Techrights-sec2

though will be in and out of earshot for some hours later

schestowitz-TR

what stepos are still required to make the gemini IRC pages serve gemtext instead of txt? I fell behind today due to work and errants outside

schestowitz-TR

errands

Techrights-sec2

mostly just hard (or sym) linking to the .txt with the .gmi names, then

Dec 03 11:05

Techrights-sec2

after that it is just a matter of between 1 and 5 lines in the generation script

Dec 03 11:05

schestowitz-TR

If I understand correctly, you want to link to the text files but make it seem like they have another extension, or have two links, with two names to each file, then serve these

Dec 03 11:06

schestowitz-TR

file1.txt, file1.gmi, where file1.txt is symlink to file1.txt and file1.gmi is also symlink to file1.txt

Dec 03 11:07

Techrights-sec2

(connecting to the RPi via SSH takes a long time at the moment

Techrights-sec2

/home/gemini/gemini/tr_text_version has the .txt files which can be linked as

Techrights-sec2

.gmi

Techrights-sec2

ln file01.txt file01.gmi

Techrights-sec2

symlinks not necessary hard links are ok. then they are the exact same file

Techrights-sec2

but with multiple names

schestowitz-TR

isee

Techrights-sec2

symbolic links have the advantage that there are in-your-face obviously links

Dec 03 11:12

Techrights-sec2

hardlinks can only be noticed by checking the inodes / number of links

Dec 03 11:12

schestowitz-TR

if I understand correcctly, old gemini links, with txt, would still be in tact,, soo nothingn of the old will be

schestowitz-TR

made "page not found"

Techrights-sec2

correct

Techrights-sec2

hardlinking is just adding another name to an existing file

Techrights-sec2

symbolic linking is just adding a pointer, however agate seems to choke on them

schestowitz-TR

ack

schestowitz-TR

one metric of interest, e.g. in ,lupa, is how many capsules just serve old crap like txt and worse... as opposed

schestowitz-TR

to what gemini was actually made for. the ratio is better when gmi is the norm

schestowitz-TR

when I click on gopher links it often pains me that I struggle to navigate

schestowitz-TR

it is a good think gmi is made very readable even without parsing/interpreting/randering, so a plain text file w

Dec 03 11:18

schestowitz-TR

ith gmi is still looking OK

Dec 03 11:18

Techrights-sec2

yes

Dec 03 11:20

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Dec 03 11:23

Techrights-sec2

the .txt name is not needed, the old pages could be modified to point to

Techrights-sec2

.gmi instead and then your script modified to produce only .gmi

Techrights-sec2

Or it could stay the same and then each time a .txt is produced a hardlink

Techrights-sec2

named .gmi created.

schestowitz-TR

yesthe older files do not have gemtext formatting, so better leave references to them unchanged, maybe...?

Techrights-sec2

Technicaly that is still Gemtext but witout headings and links only

Dec 03 11:37

schestowitz-TR

true, but that gives a wrong expectation

Dec 03 11:37

Techrights-sec2

$ time find ~/gemini/tr_text_version/ -type f -name '*.txt' -exec sh -c 'grep -q "#" {} || echo {}' \;

Techrights-sec2

real 0m15.902s

Techrights-sec2

user 0m9.881s

Techrights-sec2

sys 0m5.286s

Techrights-sec2

no non-gemtext .txt files found

Techrights-sec2

oops. wrong pattern

schestowitz-TR

yes

schestowitz-TR

you got me confused there for a sec

schestowitz-TR

so I went and checked the capsule

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psydruid

now he can rename Tomboy to Jailedboy

Dec 03 12:00

psydruid

or Prisonboy

Dec 03 12:01

schestowitz-TR

:-)

Dec 03 12:02

schestowitz-TR

wait for mugshots

Dec 03 12:02

schestowitz-TR

copilot has landed... IN PRISON

Dec 03 12:02

Techrights-sec2

working on right pattern

Techrights-sec2

ok I misunderstood, there is no Gemtext markup anywhere, but plain text content

Techrights-sec2

is still valid for Gemtext so it works out anyway. A way to label the file

Techrights-sec2

with .gmi suffix is needed for Agate since it goes by filename.

schestowitz-TR

yes, exactly

schestowitz-TR

tested wioth testing.txt, amfoa and lagrange

Techrights-sec2

in and out for the next few hours now

Dec 03 12:17

schestowitz-TR

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Dec 03 12:21

schestowitz-TR

was thinking while in kitchen ...... 1) would it be worth adding to irc logs in gmi the links in a clickable form? 2) it a way that make them seem 'compatible' with the txt version 3) with existing code written for blog posts?

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Dec 03 13:00

Techrights-sec2

The IRC log summaries have links:

Techrights-sec2

gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/02/irc-log-011221/

Techrights-sec2

or do you mean in these:

Techrights-sec2

gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techrights-011221.txt

schestowitz

yes, so the round round circles can become # and ##

schestowitz

and for a given line, e.g.

schestowitz

[roy] blah [link] and [another links]

schestowitz

that becomes:

schestowitz

[roy] blah [link] and [another links]

schestowitz

=> link

schestowitz

=> another link

Techrights-sec2

Yes, that's easy to do with sed or awk but would create additional files,

Techrights-sec2

taking double the space.

Techrights-sec2

And in effect having multiple versions of the same content. If the new

Techrights-sec2

files could have # in front of the circle and ## in front of the double circles

Techrights-sec2

then that would probably be adequately readable in plain text too

schestowitz-TR

true

schestowitz-TR

do you think hosting from home (various aspects) merits some videos? There are aspects of it not covered yet, but we're still exploting. the latest tc version if top notch.

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schestowitz-TR

*is

Techrights-sec2

excellent. I notice there is delay at the start of each SSH connection but

Techrights-sec2

as far as I can tell it is not due to tc.

Techrights-sec2

Shall tc-shaper-07.sh go into git as tc-shaper.sh now?

schestowitz-TR

yes, I don't want to risk breaking what works OK now

Techrights-sec2

schestowitz

btw, irc network keeps growing https://netsplit.de/networks/statistics.php?net=techrights

Dec 03 13:12

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Dec 03 13:12

Techrights-sec2

ok it's in git now; sometime, not soon, it needs to be fitted for nft instead

Dec 03 13:13

Techrights-sec2

of iptables

Dec 03 13:13

Techrights-sec2

bbiab

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Techrights-sec2

Excellent. What happened to freenode was not good, but it looks like people

Dec 03 14:12

Techrights-sec2

are realizing how vulnerable centralization makes things and are doing

Dec 03 14:12

Techrights-sec2

something to fix it.

Dec 03 14:12

schestowitz-TR

[13:14:29] <techrights-news> Another new #IRC network has made the cut. Self-hosting and decentrsalisation on the rise!! https://netsplit.de/networks/?query=applicant

Dec 03 14:13

schestowitz-TR

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Dec 03 14:13

Techrights-sec2

Excellent. I wish the tech "press" woud pick up on this trend. It is

Dec 03 14:15

Techrights-sec2

important in many ways and for many reasons.

Dec 03 14:15

schestowitz-TR

lol. 'tech' 'press'. at the moment I see rms still shilling billgates via his 'press'... same for Omidyar's. But I don't want to be interpreted as attacking RMS. I mentioned this to him over a decade ago.

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Techrights-sec2

I'm concerned about RMS in that regard. He is a specialist in some areas

Techrights-sec2

and a world leader in a subset of those. However, indirectly promoting patents

Techrights-sec2

llike that indirectly promotes sw patents which undoes some of the fine work

Techrights-sec2

he has accomplished.

Techrights-sec2

Grauniad covers a small handful of topics well and conscientiously to provide

Techrights-sec2

cover for the drivel and propaganda they pump out on the other topics.

Techrights-sec2

Vaccines and health are not among those they cover well, for reasons you've just

Techrights-sec2

pointed out.

Techrights-sec2

I wonder how much pre-trial negitiation has gone on to try to ensure that

Techrights-sec2

bill does not get named during any of the testimony or cross examinations.

schestowitz-TR

he refuses to realise he became an unwilling Gates megaphone

schestowitz-TR

Even when I gave him examples

schestowitz-TR

hhe had invested decades of his life in this paper

schestowitz-TR

even as author and commenter

schestowitz-TR

he even told me the new editor was once again more open to inpput, unlike prior ones

schestowitz-TR

for now, 40% of the time stallman.org is a traffic funnel for Bill's rag in the UK

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schestowitz-TR

because of this, years ago when I spoke to RMS about Assange (after arrest IIRC) he said Julian had deservd it,

schestowitz-TR

or something to that effect

schestowitz-TR

actually, iirc it was befroe the arrest... when Micah Lee (Omidyar salaries) attacked Assange regularly

Techrights-sec2

yes, they were one of the sites that attacked JA the most

schestowitz-TR

and last week daemon and I were still awed by the RMS post citing Olidyar's Intercept-For-The-State saying inflation is actually GOOD

Dec 03 14:34

Techrights-sec2

they built up a false, but highly negative narrative around him

Techrights-sec2

Techrights-sec2

I'm not sure of the real purpose of The Intercept nor about Greenwald.

Techrights-sec2

However, it sure looks like one of the main goals if not on of the main purposes

Techrights-sec2

was to corner the market on Snowden's material and quietly dispose of it

Techrights-sec2

and get it out of public discourse. That and they hung several out to dry, such

Techrights-sec2

as Reality Winner and the others.

schestowitz-TR

Laura GOODPoitrias

schestowitz-TR

spelling

schestowitz-TR

they can capture key people and 'convert' them with the money

schestowitz-TR

See Chelsea Manning on Greenwald

Techrights-sec2

Yes. But manning gets ignored these days and has kind of committed self-goals

Techrights-sec2

a few times.

schestowitz

very good article: https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/09/24/glenn-greenwald-is-not-your-misunderstood-left-comrade/

Dec 03 14:39

-altlink_290/#boycottnovell-📣 Cloudflare: counterpunch.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/09/24/glenn-greenwald-is-not-your-misunderstood-left-comrade/

Dec 03 14:39

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.counterpunch.org | Glenn Greenwald is Not Your Misunderstood Left Comrade - CounterPunch.org

Dec 03 14:39

Techrights-sec2

ack

Dec 03 14:42

Techrights-sec2

Yes, I saw that one back a few months ago.

Dec 03 14:42

schestowitz-TR

modus (note to self, crude)

schestowitz-TR

they put in capital

schestowitz-TR

they identify who needs to be sucked in

schestowitz-TR

if they cannot cancel or scare them

schestowitz-TR

then they get them to:

schestowitz-TR

1) discredit selves or

schestowitz-TR

2) change their tune

schestowitz-TR

KGB and CPC love putting force confessions on tape, in the West it is more subtale

schestowitz-TR

Glenn and de Icaza found brazil and millions of dollard, monetising their sellout

Techrights-sec2

yes.

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Dec 03 14:46

Techrights-sec2

deicaza was a sellout from day one. he was always trying tu undermine foss

Techrights-sec2

and sucking up to redmond. m$ has never been a leader in technology yet

Techrights-sec2

deicaza wanted to cease development and advancement, turn around, and get

Techrights-sec2

behind m$ and follow it instead of advancing. Even back in the "Rebel Code" days

Techrights-sec2

he comes across as a dickhead

Techrights-sec2

back i na bit

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https://nitter.eu/yuhong2/status/1466691694636662784#m

schestowitz-TR

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.eu | Yuhong Bao (@yuhong2): "SATA SSDs dates back to around the time when even Techrights/Boycott Novell used to have Google ads." | nitter

https://twitter.com/HAX/status/1466699168383180800

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schestowitz

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@HAX: @schestowitz The same people who demand draconian IP rules when it profits themselves?

https://twitter.com/OhnemusN/status/1466766567794872320

schestowitz

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@OhnemusN: @schestowitz Ugh wtf is this bs

https://twitter.com/TomFran45400947/status/1466768488870121476

schestowitz

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@TomFran45400947: @OhnemusN @schestowitz An uninformed clown..

https://twitter.com/liztormato/status/1466429024956203011

schestowitz

Dec 03 17:18

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@liztormato: #rakulang https://t.co/WbpD8CxzA3

Dec 03 17:18

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: "While reading Arne`s solution for Challenge #140.2, I spotted a nested simple loop." https://t.co/DjcDVbxnik #Programming #Raku

Dec 03 17:18

schestowitz

https://nitter.eu/liztormato/status/1466429024956203011

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.eu | 🦋 Elizabeth Mattijsen (@liztormato): "#rakulang" | nitter

schestowitz

<li><h5><a href="https://nitter.eu/Augustia0017/status/1466767439803281411">Augustia (@Augustia0017): "Bill Gates Controlling Media, Education, World Health Organization with Multiple ties to Epstein & Media Mogul Rupert Murdoch? RUPERT MURDOCH PART OF CIA & #MilitaryIndustrialComplex? https://www.michaelwest.com.au/white-mans-media-rupert-murdoch-and-the-us-imperium/ http://techrights.org/2012&#

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://nitter.eu/Augustia0017/status/1466767439803281411">Augustia )

schestowitz

x2F;02/01/control-over-the-minds/ https://www.bitchute.com/video/MJAa6lyEnCCR" | nitter</a></h5>

https://twitter.com/Firefly_fan/status/1466716872951439362

schestowitz

-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Firefly_fan: ¿Hemos estado GAFAdos por Microsoft? https://t.co/iyUPyEoXfQ