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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Muskoka10293846: @schestowitz https://t.co/E4GNHX1YEP sign thisMay 04 00:54
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/crystalshen6/status/1389036548583272450May 04 00:54
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@crystalshen6: FUD aka Fear, Uncertainty, & Doubt https://t.co/Bma7lndrp9May 04 00:54
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schestowitz__> Dear RoyMay 04 01:23
schestowitz__> May 04 01:23
schestowitz__>  May 04 01:23
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schestowitz__> I would like to share some thoughts regarding the suspension of yourMay 04 01:23
schestowitz__> account and to send also some of my lecture slides on defamation.May 04 01:23
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schestowitz__>  May 04 01:23
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schestowitz__> a) OfcomMay 04 01:23
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schestowitz__> I tried initially to check the issue of suspension through theMay 04 01:23
schestowitz__> communications regulator, Ofcom. It appears that they do not haveMay 04 01:23
schestowitz__> jurisdiction to deal with US-based social media. There is currently aMay 04 01:23
schestowitz__> white paper for a new legislative bill, i.e. online harms, which willMay 04 01:23
schestowitz__> give some powers to Ofcom. This is a work in process and in any case, itMay 04 01:23
schestowitz__> does not deal much with protection of freedom of speech. There are someMay 04 01:23
schestowitz__> organisations set up by mainstream media that care about free speech butMay 04 01:23
schestowitz__> they usually deal with corporate media that are their members. Again,May 04 01:23
schestowitz__> they do no have any regulatory powers regarding Twitter, Facebook, etc.May 04 01:23
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schestowitz__>  May 04 01:23
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schestowitz__> b) JurisdictionMay 04 01:23
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schestowitz__> Twitter is a US-based corporation and they only have one base in Europe,May 04 01:23
schestowitz__> which is Dublin. The person to whom I sent the email about yourMay 04 01:23
schestowitz__> suspension is based in Dublin.May 04 01:23
schestowitz__> May 04 01:23
schestowitz__>  May 04 01:23
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schestowitz__> In terms of building a network, you may find useful to expand yourMay 04 01:23
schestowitz__> collaboration with persons who are based in Ireland, as most of USMay 04 01:23
schestowitz__> corporations in the social media sector are based there.May 04 01:24
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schestowitz__>  May 04 01:24
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schestowitz__> c) Twitter responsesMay 04 01:24
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schestowitz__> In my understanding regarding the suspension of your Twitter account, itMay 04 01:24
schestowitz__> seems that Twitter may have received various complaints regarding yourMay 04 01:24
schestowitz__> tweets. And they try to respond through various ways. But if theyMay 04 01:24
schestowitz__> receive supporting emails, they seem to understand that there is more toMay 04 01:24
schestowitz__> it and they do not want to take sides, hence, the reinstatement of yourMay 04 01:24
schestowitz__> account.May 04 01:24
schestowitz__> May 04 01:24
schestowitz__>  May 04 01:24
schestowitz__> May 04 01:24
schestowitz__> So, in continuation from the previous point about Ireland andMay 04 01:24
schestowitz__> networking, it will be good to have or plan for such a supportive network.May 04 01:24
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schestowitz__>  May 04 01:24
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schestowitz__> d) Legal actions (defamation)May 04 01:24
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schestowitz__>  May 04 01:24
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schestowitz__> The courts are at the disposal of those who have complaints regardingMay 04 01:24
schestowitz__> defamatory statements. In this respect, you may need to know some basicMay 04 01:24
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schestowitz__> things about liability in Torts regarding defamation.May 04 01:24
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schestowitz__>  May 04 01:24
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schestowitz__> I am sending notes from two of my lectures that I gave in the previous year.May 04 01:24
schestowitz__> May 04 01:24
schestowitz__> The main points are:May 04 01:24
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schestowitz__> to have an action in defamation, three elements need to be established.May 04 01:24
schestowitz__> The first element (the statement is defamatory) is now subjected to aMay 04 01:24
schestowitz__> new threshold (‘serious harm’, see slide 15), which allows more room forMay 04 01:24
schestowitz__> fair criticism and free speech.May 04 01:24
schestowitz__> May 04 01:25
schestowitz__> But even where a statement is defamatory and meets the three conditions,May 04 01:25
schestowitz__> no action can be sustained if a defence is applicable:May 04 01:25
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schestowitz__> e.g. the statement is defamatory (e.g. statement says that person B is aMay 04 01:25
schestowitz__> known thief) but a defence applies (i.e. there is evidence showing theMay 04 01:25
schestowitz__> statement is true). There are various defences: truth, honest opinion,May 04 01:25
schestowitz__> public interest, etc.).May 04 01:25
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schestowitz__>  May 04 01:25
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schestowitz__> The slides I am sending cover the basic for undergraduate students. OneMay 04 01:25
schestowitz__> of the things that are not covered in the slides concern DefamationMay 04 01:25
schestowitz__> (Operators of Websites) Regulations 2013 issued under section 5 of theMay 04 01:25
schestowitz__> Defamation Act 2013. They cover the liability of web operators. ForMay 04 01:25
schestowitz__> this, there is a useful explanatory note, here:May 04 01:25
schestowitz__> https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukdsi/2013/9780111104620/pdfs/ukdsiem_9780111104620_en.pdfMay 04 01:25
schestowitz__> <https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukdsi/2013/9780111104620/pdfs/ukdsiem_9780111104620_en.pdf>May 04 01:25
schestowitz__> May 04 01:25
schestowitz__> https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/269139/defamation-faqs.pdfMay 04 01:25
schestowitz__> <https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/269139/defamation-faqs.pdf>May 04 01:25
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schestowitz__>  May 04 01:25
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schestowitz__> The main points of the Defamation Act 2013 are highlighted also in aMay 04 01:25
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schestowitz__> relevant note, here:May 04 01:25
schestowitz__> https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN06801/SN06801.pdfMay 04 01:25
schestowitz__> <https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN06801/SN06801.pdf>May 04 01:25
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schestowitz__>  May 04 01:25
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schestowitz__> I think it will be good to check the slides and see the basic elementsMay 04 01:25
schestowitz__> of liability for defamation and the applicable defences. Beyond theMay 04 01:25
schestowitz__> framework of law and the scope of freedom of expression, you may alsoMay 04 01:25
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schestowitz__> need to think strategically about how to frame certain expressions. EvenMay 04 01:25
schestowitz__> if a tweet may not be actionable (e.g. because harm is not likely to beMay 04 01:25
schestowitz__> serious or the statement is based on true facts), it is still possibleMay 04 01:25
schestowitz__> to appreciate the choice of your expression in order increase itsMay 04 01:25
schestowitz__> objectivity and wider impact. As you communicate various statements andMay 04 01:25
schestowitz__> information in the public arena, you may find useful to have a generalMay 04 01:25
schestowitz__> understanding of relevant legal issues in order to plan your workMay 04 01:26
schestowitz__> accordingly.May 04 01:26
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schestowitz__>  May 04 01:26
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schestowitz__> As I said in my previous email, I am glad you are back on Twitter withMay 04 01:26
schestowitz__> your personal account, hopefully, you can have the same interactions youMay 04 01:26
schestowitz__> have had in the past and use Twitter (which is very good platform forMay 04 01:26
schestowitz__> political commentary) constructively, as part of your research and activism.May 04 01:26
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schestowitz__>  May 04 01:26
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schestowitz__> Best regardsMay 04 01:26
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schestowitz__> PS:May 04 01:26
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schestowitz__> The margins are not always maintained in my lecture slides, as this isMay 04 01:26
schestowitz__> often the result of transferring files from various operating systemsMay 04 01:26
schestowitz__> (e.g. Umbundu, Microsoft PPT).May 04 01:26
schestowitz__> I would like to share some thoughts regarding the suspension of yourMay 04 01:26
schestowitz__> account and to send also some of my lecture slides on defamation.May 04 01:26
schestowitz__I am going to study those slides.May 04 01:26
schestowitz__Overall, centralisation and consolidation is harmful to free speech. It has long been the case, but many people didn't heed the warning.May 04 01:26
schestowitz__In my case, it seems COVID patents were at the root of the decision to suspend and then ban.May 04 01:26
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Techrights-secyes, the distraction is probably more about epsteinMay 04 04:54
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Techrights-sechttps://nitter.cc/MattLoita/status/1389438920711188483#mMay 04 05:54
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.cc | Cumberdick Bandersnatch (@MattLoita): "techrights.org/2020/08/21/zo…" | nitterMay 04 05:54
Techrights-sechttps://nitter.cc/weaponizedword1/status/1389438614212423680#mMay 04 05:54
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/MattLoita/status/1389438920711188483May 04 05:56
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@MattLoita: @ShakenJack https://t.co/utMyTEdHx1May 04 05:56
schestowitz__ https://twitter.com/weaponizedword1/status/1389438614212423680May 04 05:56
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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@weaponizedword1: In honor of Bill and Melinda Gates getting divorced and becoming Fences.... Huge indexed Gates Foundation Critique… https://t.co/Bxb0k7lRmGMay 04 05:56
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/gypster2004/status/1389423374909194240May 04 05:56
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@gypster2004: Found something here https://t.co/Mu5OQ9MFTLMay 04 05:56
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/gypster2004/status/1389423135741685762May 04 05:57
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/AManYouLove_T/status/1389325998618025985May 04 05:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@AManYouLove_T: https://t.co/mfREUA34HRMay 04 05:57
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schestowitz__~/Git/Desktop-Utils$ git pushMay 04 06:23
schestowitz__Enumerating objects: 7, done.May 04 06:23
schestowitz__Counting objects: 100% (7/7), done.May 04 06:23
schestowitz__Delta compression using up to 4 threadsMay 04 06:23
schestowitz__Compressing objects: 100% (4/4), done.May 04 06:23
schestowitz__Writing objects: 100% (4/4), 602 bytes | 602.00 KiB/s, done.May 04 06:23
schestowitz__Total 4 (delta 3), reused 0 (delta 0)May 04 06:23
schestowitz__To ssh://git-tr/home/git/tr-git/May 04 06:23
schestowitz__   6557c8d..d39e13d  master -> masterMay 04 06:23
schestowitz__I have been spending looooooooads of time yesterday getting something done which was long overdue: 1) re-encoding for better compression. 2) intro/outro 3) labeling of video. May 04 06:24
schestowitz__I've just put that whole lot in the script, so hopefully it'll be fast to work with, I might even do all the codec stuff on another machine to offload the CPU loads, esp. for long  videosMay 04 06:25
Techrights-sechttps://nitter.cc/IsabelVillalon1/status/1389455618772250627#mMay 04 07:30
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.cc | Isabel Villalon (@IsabelVillalon1): "So ein wenig Hintergrundmaterial anlässlich der Scheidung des Plutarchen Bill Gates... Interessant auch die Verbindung zum Pädophilenring des Mr Epstein. http://techrights.org/wiki/Gates_Foundation_Critique" | nitterMay 04 07:30
schestowitz__"I just stumbled upon your articles on the EPO and how it has been misbehaving," one reader told me a few days ago. "I found them very interesting as I myself am at the moment writing an essay about the EPC and EPO and how animal welfare is being completely ignored/ patents granted by examiners who have no clue about animal welfare."May 04 07:55
schestowitz__            May 04 07:55
schestowitz__I am told by EPO insiders that "almost all" EPO examiners read Techrights. Would you be willing to have your work/essays reproduced in Techrights? My wife and I are proponents of animal rights and donate to conservation. Raising awareness is a gateway towards societal reform and legislation.May 04 07:55
Techrights-secok, I'll look at the new scriptsMay 04 08:38
schestowitz__they are still work in progress as I want to avoid video editors (waste of time), so if you commit a change let me know (to avoid conflicting alterations)May 04 08:38
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/NormanTShenley/status/1389494672666636291May 04 10:26
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@NormanTShenley: @G3MM420 Sympathy vote? Or visit from the authorities? (again) https://t.co/xl9qRPpXssMay 04 10:26
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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.cc | Red Hat EMEA (@RedHatEMEA): "Want the benefits of containers without the management? Join us for a sneak peek of the new #Azure #RedHat #OpenShift features planned for 2021 at 15:00 CET on May 18 ➡️ https://red.ht/3b07tKL" | nitterMay 04 11:34
Techrights-secby the way, as far as licenses go, some countries do not respect or have                                                       May 04 13:20
Techrights-seca public domain so a CC license of some kind is better.  With software                                                         May 04 13:20
Techrights-secone of the GPL-compatible Fee Software licenses would be appropriate.   May 04 13:20
schestowitz__right, but they're not as widely adopted. for the show jingles and video intro/outro I checked we're fine with the licence terms. For photos I typically use what was once an Hungarian site but later died (not due to COVID, MinceR ;- )) but due to a takeover of some kind: https://www.freeimages.com/May 04 13:21
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.freeimages.com | Explore over 300,000 free stock photos and royalty free images - FreeImages.comMay 04 13:21
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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.cc | zoobab "NO Software Patents" (@zoobab): "UPC is the next Kangaroo court." | nitterMay 04 15:03
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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.cc | Dr Captain Barf, PhD 😏 (@barf_captain): "techrights.org/2020/08/21/zo…" | nitterMay 04 15:04
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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.cc | Kaddour Kardio (@kaddourkardio): "Mahrez is on fire !" | nitterMay 04 22:17
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/redhog_org/status/1389694140183683078May 04 22:56
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/kaddourkardio/status/1389684068783173638May 04 22:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@kaddourkardio: @schestowitz Mahrez is on fire !May 04 22:57
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/shaggysnod/status/1389665854829256707May 04 22:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@shaggysnod: @SemprePhi @schestowitz Throw her back. We need to preserve the few ancient monsters we have left. 🦕May 04 22:57
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/cheezburgrmania/status/1389607488773836800May 04 22:58
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@cheezburgrmania: @PierreMenard @schestowitz "...the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation's involvement in the partnership between the U… https://t.co/huCsq2IuHhMay 04 22:58
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@cheezburgrmania: @PierreMenard @schestowitz "...the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation's involvement in the partnership between the U… https://t.co/huCsq2IuHhMay 04 22:58
schestowitz__"May 04 22:58
schestowitz__@schestowitzMay 04 22:58
schestowitz__ "...the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation's involvement in the partnership between the University Oxford and AstraZeneca prevented the vaccine from having an open distribution model."May 04 22:58
schestowitz__"May 04 22:58
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/Flavia0847/status/1389596201255940100May 04 22:58
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Flavia0847: @schestowitz Those were the days before the Military discovered its "warrior ethos" and was used by Big Business to… https://t.co/CL4no9w0L3May 04 22:58
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Flavia0847: @schestowitz Those were the days before the Military discovered its "warrior ethos" and was used by Big Business to… https://t.co/CL4no9w0L3May 04 22:58
schestowitz__"Those were the days before the Military discovered its "warrior ethos" and was used by Big Business to take the nation for another  ride."May 04 22:58
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1389569048791375877May 04 22:58
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/SemprePhi/status/1389536893092646912May 04 22:59
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@SemprePhi: @schestowitz Attn: @shaggysnodMay 04 22:59
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/dawnbazely/status/1389535202955907074May 04 22:59
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